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Himu

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #600 on: March 10, 2010, 01:31:56 PM »
It's actually really fun...

when it wants to be. But the last two chapters (4 and 5) have been dreadful.
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demi

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #601 on: March 10, 2010, 01:32:29 PM »
I think its one of the better FFs in recent times (incl. spinoffs). Very refreshing.
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #602 on: March 10, 2010, 01:40:10 PM »
Why not? Seems par for the course :teehee
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Himu

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #603 on: March 10, 2010, 01:41:37 PM »
Why are new weapons always shittier than the weapon I started out with? :lol
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Himu

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #604 on: March 10, 2010, 03:19:20 PM »
The bosses in this are fantastic. Shame the fodder battles aren't nearly as involving.
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Bebpo

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #605 on: March 10, 2010, 03:55:11 PM »
Why are new weapons always shittier than the weapon I started out with? :lol

This is a good thing.

Instead of having a bunch of weapons where each is better than the last.  You have 6 weapons per characters that all have their own strength & weakness.  None are better than others.  So pick whichever you like.

Himu

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #606 on: March 10, 2010, 05:53:24 PM »
Really enjoying this forest dungeon. It has everything dungeons 4 and 5 lacked: good enemy variety, branching paths, enemies that require more than auto-battle to defeat, an actual dungeon gimmick (weather change) and interesting visuals.

Chapters 4 and 5 were chores for me, thankfully it's picking back up in chapter 6.
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #607 on: March 10, 2010, 06:44:20 PM »
Why are new weapons always shittier than the weapon I started out with? :lol

This is a good thing.

Instead of having a bunch of weapons where each is better than the last.  You have 6 weapons per characters that all have their own strength & weakness.  None are better than others.  So pick whichever you like.

There are only six weapons for each character?  Are you serious...?
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Ichirou

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #608 on: March 10, 2010, 06:52:43 PM »
Combat in ME2 seems deeper than in ME1 from what I've seen thus far.
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Himu

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #609 on: March 10, 2010, 07:09:54 PM »
When FF13 gets down it REALLY gets down.

:bow

Potentially the best FF battle system. If the normal battles end up being NEARLY as vicious as the boss battles this game is a fucking winner.
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Bebpo

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #610 on: March 10, 2010, 07:13:37 PM »
Why are new weapons always shittier than the weapon I started out with? :lol

This is a good thing.

Instead of having a bunch of weapons where each is better than the last.  You have 6 weapons per characters that all have their own strength & weakness.  None are better than others.  So pick whichever you like.

There are only six weapons for each character?  Are you serious...?

6 base ones that you can mod up to 6 more ones and then all of those mod up to a single ultimate weapon.  So technically 13 unique weapons per character but you only have enough money to really fully upgrade one of them.  So you gotta pick.

When FF13 gets down it REALLY gets down.

:bow

Potentially the best FF battle system. If the normal battles end up being NEARLY as vicious as the boss battles this game is a fucking winner.

The only time the normal battles get tough like the boss ones is during the non-linear part of the game.  Plus there's like 60 optional boss battles in the hunts and some are TOUGH.

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #611 on: March 10, 2010, 11:25:41 PM »
i got this code from registering my copy online

Download Code for FEMALE PSICOM SOLDIER UNIFORM:
JRC62-QT2Q8-294XF-B3MTW-QPWG8

only works for people that use female avatars apparently so it said I can give it away
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #612 on: March 10, 2010, 11:42:58 PM »
I'm somewhere in Chapter 5 now. I'm over like 10 hours now.

I don't know. Still a sort of middling game to me. The story concept is alright but the actual execution is very poor from the acting to the voice dialogue at parts (outside of the black dude who consistently is the most solid and realistic character by far)

The combat system seems relatively simple but I like it enough and its major benefit is that it is extremely quick relative to other RPG's. So if I die, I don't feel like I have to spend another 20 minutes fighting whoever killed me again although obviously I assume the later boss battles get more lengthy.

It's not necessarily how linear the game is that is the problem. It's how monotonous it is. You really need something game-wise to break up just walking around and fighting. And just watching cutscenes isn't enough. I don't care if its bliztball or action elements or whatever but you need fucking something to break up the pattern. The fact that you aren't meeting any decent NPC's and you are just stuck with a mostly annoying cast certainly doesn't help. Supposely I understand there is some stuff later but its poor game design imo to just say well wait 20 or 25 hours and then the game actually starts to vary things up somewhat.

I'll probably finish it and the game and story has improved from the dreadful beginning but its still very flawed and often very annoying all across the board.
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Himu

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #613 on: March 10, 2010, 11:53:49 PM »
I'm somewhere in Chapter 5 now. I'm over like 10 hours now.

I don't know. Still a sort of middling game to me. The story concept is alright but the actual execution is very poor from the acting to the voice dialogue at parts (outside of the black dude who consistently is the most solid and realistic character by far)

The combat system seems relatively simple but I like it enough and its major benefit is that it is extremely quick relative to other RPG's. So if I die, I don't feel like I have to spend another 20 minutes fighting whoever killed me again although obviously I assume the later boss battles get more lengthy.

It's necessarily how linear the game is that is the problem. It's how monotonous it is. You really need something game-wise to break up just walking around and fighting. And just watching cutscenes isn't enough. I don't care if its bliztball or action elements or whatever but you need fucking something to break up the pattern. The fact that you aren't meeting any decent NPC's and you are just stuck with a mostly annoying cast certainly doesn't help. Supposely I understand there is some stuff later but its poor game design imo to just say well wait 20 or 25 hours and then the game actually starts to vary things up somewhat.

I'll probably finish it and the game and story has improved from the dreadful beginning but its still very flawed and often very annoying all across the board.

Chapters 4/5 are dreadful. I think chapter 6 is when it starts to get good. There's a dungeon that slightly mixes things up and I fully agree. My problem isn't the linearity but the completely lack of anything to mix it up between fights and cutscenes.
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Himu

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #614 on: March 10, 2010, 11:57:41 PM »
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My problem isn't the linearity but the completely lack of anything to mix up the linearity

awesome, welcome aboard the good shit HMS Harsh Reality

It would be less of a problem if the dungeons themselves had gimmicks or puzzles or something. This is why I really liked chapter 6.

That said, the game is picking up. Normal enemies are getting harder to kill, the game's difficulty is picking up and requiring strategy.
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #615 on: March 11, 2010, 12:06:46 AM »
Is the final battle epic? The opera music make it sounds like it is.
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Stoney Mason

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #616 on: March 11, 2010, 12:06:50 AM »
One little minor thing I do like I thought I would mention is the little story recap when you load a saved game and the chapter synopsis in the datalog thing. This may have been in the last few FF games since I didn't play them but its new to me and is a feature that every JRPG needs. One of the problems with these games is that if I drop them I never feel comfortable ever coming back because I have forgotten everything. That's the reason why I never beat lost odyssey. When I came back to it, I couldn't remember a damn thing so I couldn't get back into the game.
« Last Edit: March 11, 2010, 12:08:33 AM by Stoney Mason »

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #617 on: March 11, 2010, 12:07:55 AM »
Epic or not, I'm final fantasy tired.

demi

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #618 on: March 11, 2010, 12:08:35 AM »
Rodi, would you eat Lightning or Fang's muff?
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Himu

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #619 on: March 11, 2010, 12:08:44 AM »
It's the first time it's been in an FF, stoney. I like it too.
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Himu

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #620 on: March 11, 2010, 12:09:55 AM »
yes , it picks up from "abortion clinic dumpster" to regular old "dead children bin" levels around ch 6.

Don't worry - only a few chapters to go till you get to "wait, my finger is up a corpse's arse!" level of awesome. Those dead baby nightmares of this fucking turd of a game are nearly over!

<vader>Stockholm Syndrome is strong with this one</vader>

It was still good enough for me to want to play it pretty much all day. And I did play it all day. I haven't done that in ages.
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rodi

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #621 on: March 11, 2010, 12:13:12 AM »
Rodi, would you eat Lightning or Fang's muff?

I should probably mention: I only really played FF8 and 9. I have no idea what you're talking about, but if it has to do with muff diving - I'm all in!

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #622 on: March 11, 2010, 12:14:45 AM »
Rodi, would you eat Lightning or Fang's muff?

I should probably mention: I only really played FF8 and 9. I have no idea what you're talking about, but if it has to do with muff diving - I'm all in!

Oh, sorry. You didnt play the others? Shit go look up the casts of 10 10-2 12 and 13 and come back and tell us who's muff you'd devour.

Links:

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/X-2

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XII

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XIII
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #623 on: March 11, 2010, 12:16:21 AM »
The last battle music is pretty awesome, especially the brass.  It made me go out and buy a couple of Szymanowski CDs, since Hamauzu mentioned him as an influence and I hadn't heard his stuff before (or even heard of him for that matter).  Szymanowski is pretty awesome too. 

:bow Polish music :bow2
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« Reply #624 on: March 11, 2010, 12:20:10 AM »

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #625 on: March 11, 2010, 12:27:59 AM »
Rodi, would you eat Lightning or Fang's muff?

I should probably mention: I only really played FF8 and 9. I have no idea what you're talking about, but if it has to do with muff diving - I'm all in!

Oh, sorry. You didnt play the others? Shit go look up the casts of 10 10-2 12 and 13 and come back and tell us who's muff you'd devour.

Links:

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/X-2

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XII

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XIII

At first glance, Rikku from FFX and Oerba Yun Fang from FFXIII.

From FF8, Quistis. Hell yeah.  :-*

Himu

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #626 on: March 11, 2010, 12:32:53 AM »
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It was still good enough for me to want to play it pretty much all day.


and i had 7 wanks this morning, doesn't mean it's better than sex.

also, you gave away your piracyX360 so it's not like FF13 has any competition.

what the hell you going to play instead? Heavy rain? LBP? Killzone 2?

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demon's souls.
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #627 on: March 11, 2010, 12:33:33 AM »
The game has really really good graphics. The crystal place was holy shit good looking. Up to Chapter 4, really like it , Vanille is lol though. And I'm 99% sure that Szah's voice actor is the same guy who voiced the Black Baron in Mad World, and that's awesome. pimp game haters gonna hate.
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #628 on: March 11, 2010, 12:48:48 AM »
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It was still good enough for me to want to play it pretty much all day.


and i had 7 wanks this morning, doesn't mean it's better than sex.

yeah ok, lets discredit jerking off now.  ::)
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Himu

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #629 on: March 11, 2010, 01:27:44 AM »
at the end of chapter 7 i guess, and this game is tickling my inner japafag. I actually like the whole cast now - except Vanille, she sucks.
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #630 on: March 11, 2010, 02:29:31 AM »
Himuro bobbing up and down like a $2 whore in a stretch limo, gotta love it
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Himu

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #631 on: March 11, 2010, 02:32:26 AM »
???

I've been pretty consistent. Aside from two crappy chapters, the game owns.
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #632 on: March 11, 2010, 02:35:32 AM »
???

I've been pretty consistent. Aside from two crappy chapters, the game owns.

Maybe I just keep stepping into the thread whenever you're apparently flopping back and forth like a fish on a pier! ok, move along then, nothing to see here.
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Himu

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #633 on: March 11, 2010, 02:39:55 AM »
???

I've been pretty consistent. Aside from two crappy chapters, the game owns.

Maybe I just keep stepping into the thread whenever you're apparently flopping back and forth like a fish on a pier! ok, move along then, nothing to see here.

In order to flop, you have to go from saying,"I don't like this." to "I love this".

What you're basically telling me is that you lack the intellect and capacity to gauge a game without fully hating it with every fiber of your being or loving it on every level.

The truth of the matter is that, often times when games that are 40-50 hours, there are times where the game bogs down and there are times when the game can have high points. There are some elements I really loathe about FF13 (the linearity, the lack of exploration, the monotonous nature of certain areas, the lack of any defined sense of level design, the writing, the dialogue, the heavy handed bullshit that is the plot development seen in the game), but at the same time there's still enough to like (the graphics, some of the characters, the music, the combat, the difficulty in later chapters, the bosses).

So please, have some perspective.
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #634 on: March 11, 2010, 02:42:59 AM »
what the fucking fuck himu, don't make me have to slap a bitch :lol
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #635 on: March 11, 2010, 02:43:20 AM »
Just admit it man. You were going off pretty wild way back when.
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Bebpo

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #636 on: March 11, 2010, 02:44:55 AM »
Was there some well thought-out, intentional, possibly artistic reason for making the dungeons so linear, leaving out puzzles and not letting you really explore the towns? Or did they just do that to shorten the development cycle?

It's called Toriyama.  
The director of this one had some dumb ass ideas and they nearly sunk the ship.  FF gives their creators way too much leeway to do whatever they want.  Then again if they didn't we would get the amazing Nomura games so I guess you win some/you lose some.

Plus the engine was obviously not progressing well so they stuck to polished scripted areas like Call of Duty does where they could control everything the player sees and adjust it depending on how the engine is coping.

Himu

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #637 on: March 11, 2010, 02:48:27 AM »
Was there some well thought-out, intentional, possibly artistic reason for making the dungeons so linear, leaving out puzzles and not letting you really explore the towns? Or did they just do that to shorten the development cycle?

The official excuse is this:

The linearity allows them to emphasize the cinematic nature.

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Vizzys

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #638 on: March 11, 2010, 04:15:59 AM »
four hours in

liking the game

haters are missing out i think
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #639 on: March 11, 2010, 04:23:07 AM »
four hours in

liking the game

haters are missing out i think
A friend bought the 360 version. I'll be borrowing it in the future instead of wasting my money on it.

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #640 on: March 11, 2010, 08:53:06 AM »
I'll get to put a few hours into this today, and all day Sunday to play, awesome... only got to play 20 min yesterday, but 2 things that I really really like about the game: like Stoney mentioned, the plot synopsis as you're waiting for the game to load - more RPGs need this! And the fact that save points are pretty frequent. It makes me able to play the game in little chunks, instead of setting aside a few hours to play.
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #641 on: March 11, 2010, 09:19:26 AM »
Btw...did anyone's cover looked like this:



I got one with the cool sleeve :hyper

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« Reply #642 on: March 11, 2010, 09:31:26 AM »


 :hump

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« Reply #643 on: March 11, 2010, 09:42:00 AM »
Yeah, strange shit. I've ordered it from the Uk. The cover has normal rating. The disc cover has German rating. lol
But the game is in English.

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #644 on: March 11, 2010, 11:29:55 AM »
Regarding Vanille, maybe I should play to the end to see if they take the Bioware route at the end like in KOTOR, when you could ask the Wookiee to
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« Reply #645 on: March 11, 2010, 11:42:27 AM »
I'll be joining you fucking homos on Sunday :hyper  The wife is buying it for me in addition to my steak and BJ

I can't fucking wait.  This is the first FF I've heard good things about in a long time.  I'll be getting the superior PS3 version (no cheevs though :'()  So I'm pretty happy.

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #646 on: March 11, 2010, 11:55:54 AM »
I'll be joining you fucking homos on Sunday :hyper  The wife is buying it for me in addition to my steak and BJ

I can't fucking wait.  This is the first FF I've heard good things about in a long time.  I'll be getting the superior PS3 version (no cheevs though :'()  So I'm pretty happy.

Get Yakuza 3 instead

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #647 on: March 11, 2010, 12:00:33 PM »
I was never a fan of the Yakuza games.  :tomato

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #648 on: March 11, 2010, 12:01:24 PM »
I was never a fan of the Yakuza games.  :tomato

Get Mass Effect 2


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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #649 on: March 11, 2010, 12:04:51 PM »
???

I've been pretty consistent. Aside from two crappy chapters, the game owns.

Overly linear game that takes 10-12 hours to get good "owns", got it.
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« Reply #650 on: March 11, 2010, 12:11:33 PM »

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #651 on: March 11, 2010, 01:59:14 PM »
Is anybody playing this on 360? How bad is it?

Not bad at all. I think it looks fine. Theres a noticable "fuzz" in some videos, showing obvious compression. Overall it's playable. No diff from PS3 version aside from graphics (no argument there).

Loading times are pretty zippy (I installed my discs).
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #652 on: March 11, 2010, 03:15:31 PM »
People on gaf say the open world area has a lower framerate on X360.

Might be fudd though, system wars and all that.  Then again I doubt any reviewer/comparison site actually played that far on both to really compare them so it could be true as well.

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #653 on: March 11, 2010, 03:17:06 PM »
Only on Chapter 4, solly.
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #654 on: March 11, 2010, 03:27:11 PM »
I think every area I've been in has had some framerate stuttering every once in a while. Does that happen in the PS3 version too? Haven't made it to any open world area yet though.

And yeah the compression on the cutscenes in the 360 version is pretty awful. At least the game itself still looks great, sub HD and all!
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #655 on: March 11, 2010, 03:28:10 PM »
Wow, what's this crap about l'cie, fal'cie, pulse'cie, whatever'cie?
I don't get this shit.

Vanille is so fucking annoying. Three hours in and I'm not really liking this game so far.

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #656 on: March 11, 2010, 03:29:59 PM »
Its explained pretty in your face in the game man.
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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #657 on: March 11, 2010, 03:41:48 PM »
at least its not words like entelexeia
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« Reply #658 on: March 11, 2010, 03:45:02 PM »
unobtainium?

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Re: FF13 creator: "we hope u rike our game"
« Reply #659 on: March 11, 2010, 03:49:28 PM »
Its explained pretty in your face in the game man.

Maybe later. But now? Not really. The game is a mess so far.
But I hope it'll get better soon.