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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #31620 on: October 31, 2022, 01:48:34 PM »
honestly why not

the average action movie from the 80s or 90s weren't that much better written than metal gear solid 1

there could be something to be said for the brevity of a movie getting to the point faster and better, but it's got as many memorable moments and conversations and weapon/military trivia/porn as anything else
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« Reply #31621 on: October 31, 2022, 02:11:53 PM »
granted, the biggest problem with gaming storytelling is that the most notable story-based games still often come from japan, and japan has very different priorities, cultural assumptions, and communication style when it comes to storytelling, and localization can only do so much

like FUCKING aizuchi

or explaining and re-explaining the most basic shit, while simultaneously not explaining how really significant parts of the mythology are supposed to work, just handwaving it because they want to get to the pathos without earning it
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« Reply #31622 on: October 31, 2022, 02:58:43 PM »
https://twitter.com/EA/status/1587114709077168130

If you thought Avengers was bad wait till you get a load of this  :lol
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« Reply #31623 on: October 31, 2022, 03:25:03 PM »
Games almost universally have nothing to say beyond superficial messages about war is bad, technology is bad, X thing is cool. They are almost always just world-building without any actual storytelling, the equivalent of Z-grade fantasy or sci-fi where the author spent all their time designing an intricate magic system, but forgot basic character development. There's a massive over reliance on fantasy elements or super powers and cool swords and generally no effort put into human connections or emotion. When those human elements are included, they are usually so poorly written and lacking in decent characterisation that they are laughable and come across as almost a parody of themselves.

A cool setting does not make a good story. A good story needs to say something to connect with people. Video games are almost universally about using cool powers to kill shit with a superficial messages hammered into the script with very little subtlety or thought.
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« Reply #31624 on: October 31, 2022, 03:48:01 PM »
Games almost universally have nothing to say beyond superficial messages about war is bad, technology is bad, X thing is cool. They are almost always just world-building without any actual storytelling, the equivalent of Z-grade fantasy or sci-fi where the author spent all their time designing an intricate magic system, but forgot basic character development. There's a massive over reliance on fantasy elements or super powers and cool swords and generally no effort put into human connections or emotion. When those human elements are included, they are usually so poorly written and lacking in decent characterisation that they are laughable and come across as almost a parody of themselves.

A cool setting does not make a good story. A good story needs to say something to connect with people. Video games are almost universally about using cool powers to kill shit with a superficial messages hammered into the script with very little subtlety or thought.

ok but what elevates other media

are Avengers, Guardians or Fast and Furious so much better? "family is important, but not necessarily blood, family is who you make it," so deep

Jurassic Park or Godzilla? "man is insignificant and meddles in affairs he shouldn't"

what about Demolition Man, Speed, Terminator, Indiana Jones, Die Hard, makes them better than most action games? I mean it's one thing to watch Sarah Connor get hunted down, and another to feel personally hunted down by Mr. X or Pyramid Head

can games not tell the seven basic stories like movies do

you could argue that specific decisions surrounding games limit their ability to have more depth, like silent protagonists or quiet/viewpoint ones like in Skyrim or Fallout, but games don't have to be like that



I don't necessarily think that games are especially good, rather, most mass media stories are just as bad

I felt as much for Ezio in Assassin's Creed 2 as I did for Luke Skywalker, both losing their family and being inducted into a small order to fight a larger fight, etc., both were characterized equally well
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« Reply #31625 on: October 31, 2022, 04:48:04 PM »
Those all need the qualifier, "...for a video game". Most YA fiction or shitty B-movies shit all over those stories from a great height.
Games almost universally have nothing to say beyond superficial messages about war is bad, technology is bad, X thing is cool. They are almost always just world-building without any actual storytelling, the equivalent of Z-grade fantasy or sci-fi where the author spent all their time designing an intricate magic system, but forgot basic character development. There's a massive over reliance on fantasy elements or super powers and cool swords and generally no effort put into human connections or emotion. When those human elements are included, they are usually so poorly written and lacking in decent characterisation that they are laughable and come across as almost a parody of themselves.

A cool setting does not make a good story. A good story needs to say something to connect with people. Video games are almost universally about using cool powers to kill shit with a superficial messages hammered into the script with very little subtlety or thought.
My man, you said most young adult fiction.

what about Demolition Man, Speed, Terminator, Indiana Jones, Die Hard, makes them better than most action games?
Obvious. :ufup

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« Reply #31626 on: October 31, 2022, 04:51:00 PM »
Who fucking cares? If you enjoy a story, you enjoy it. If you think it's good, you think it's good. Don't let narrow-minded assholes hold any sway. Anyone who says an entire medium has no such quality is an idiot and probably dosen't know what they are talking about.

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« Reply #31627 on: October 31, 2022, 04:53:44 PM »
Wanky opinion is games like The Forgotten City are what’s great about video game stories and couldn’t be done in other media.

But I’m a Kojima fan so it’s a deeply hypocritical view to hold.

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« Reply #31628 on: October 31, 2022, 04:56:10 PM »
Or what about Soma?

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« Reply #31629 on: October 31, 2022, 05:09:02 PM »
I had to play Mario's Rabbids 2 recently. Gameplay-wise it's a decent enough S-RPG, but overall lightyears behind Paper Mario 2 because the writing is so boring and completely devoid of wit.

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #31630 on: October 31, 2022, 06:00:56 PM »
https://twitter.com/EA/status/1587114709077168130

If you thought Avengers was bad wait till you get a load of this  :lol

Star wars the ginger jedi was a decent game, maybe these will be too :trumps
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #31631 on: October 31, 2022, 06:01:14 PM »
Who fucking cares? If you enjoy a story, you enjoy it. If you think it's good, you think it's good. Don't let narrow-minded assholes hold any sway. Anyone who says an entire medium has no such quality is an idiot and probably dosen't know what they are talking about.
Equally, anyone who thinks video games tell a compelling story is probably mentally challenged.
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« Reply #31632 on: October 31, 2022, 06:03:07 PM »
Games almost universally have nothing to say beyond superficial messages about war is bad, technology is bad, X thing is cool. They are almost always just world-building without any actual storytelling, the equivalent of Z-grade fantasy or sci-fi where the author spent all their time designing an intricate magic system, but forgot basic character development. There's a massive over reliance on fantasy elements or super powers and cool swords and generally no effort put into human connections or emotion. When those human elements are included, they are usually so poorly written and lacking in decent characterisation that they are laughable and come across as almost a parody of themselves.

A cool setting does not make a good story. A good story needs to say something to connect with people. Video games are almost universally about using cool powers to kill shit with a superficial messages hammered into the script with very little subtlety or thought.

ok but what elevates other media

are Avengers, Guardians or Fast and Furious so much better? "family is important, but not necessarily blood, family is who you make it," so deep

Jurassic Park or Godzilla? "man is insignificant and meddles in affairs he shouldn't"

what about Demolition Man, Speed, Terminator, Indiana Jones, Die Hard, makes them better than most action games? I mean it's one thing to watch Sarah Connor get hunted down, and another to feel personally hunted down by Mr. X or Pyramid Head

can games not tell the seven basic stories like movies do

you could argue that specific decisions surrounding games limit their ability to have more depth, like silent protagonists or quiet/viewpoint ones like in Skyrim or Fallout, but games don't have to be like that



I don't necessarily think that games are especially good, rather, most mass media stories are just as bad

I felt as much for Ezio in Assassin's Creed 2 as I did for Luke Skywalker, both losing their family and being inducted into a small order to fight a larger fight, etc., both were characterized equally well
Video games being almost universally bad at storytelling does not require all movies or literature to be good.
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #31633 on: October 31, 2022, 06:14:50 PM »
Eh the base Witcher 3 takes a not dissimilar time commitment than a full watch of game of thrones and even if you take away the shit bits of thrones i wouldn't say its clearly better by any means story wise :gamer

They probably even have similar strengths and weaknesses.
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« Reply #31634 on: October 31, 2022, 06:28:27 PM »
Video games being almost universally bad at storytelling does not require all movies or literature to be good.

so what does it matter if some unspecified stories are told better, when the most popular stories of our time like capeshit actually contain worse stories than most video games?

you're mad that people aren't properly appreciating filet mignon when they're over there enjoying their cheap steak which is still vastly better than McDonald's
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #31635 on: October 31, 2022, 06:33:37 PM »


We've reached the point where upping the resolution no longer matters  :doge
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« Reply #31636 on: October 31, 2022, 07:30:59 PM »
You'd think the guy would at least boast about pretentious shit like reading Pasolini in his free time, but then he hypes himself for the most vanilla mainstream shlock :doge

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(The storytelling in Dad of War is still dumb though)
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« Reply #31637 on: October 31, 2022, 07:32:55 PM »
You'd think the guy would at least boast about pretentious shit like reading Pasolini in his free time, but then he hypes himself for the most vanilla mainstream shlock :doge

Music
New Katatonia album

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Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
The Super Mario Brothers Movie

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The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Pikmin 4
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Seeing how high Newcastle United can finish in the Premier League
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Just another Nintenyearold whose mental development stopped during teenage "not Mario = evil fake movie games" console warring.

(Dad of War storytelling is still dumb though)
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« Reply #31638 on: October 31, 2022, 07:57:23 PM »
Yeah, this is part of why I don’t like Nintendo fans.

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« Reply #31639 on: October 31, 2022, 08:02:49 PM »
You'd think the guy would at least boast about pretentious shit like reading Pasolini in his free time, but then he hypes himself for the most vanilla mainstream shlock :doge

Music
New Katatonia album

Movies
Dune Part 2
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
The Super Mario Brothers Movie

TV
Ted Lasso s3
The Bear s2
The Witcher s3
Stranger Things s5
The Boys s4

Games
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Pikmin 4
Sports Story

Sport
Women's World Cup
Seeing how high Newcastle United can finish in the Premier League
Watching Barcelona financially implode in the summer

Other
Continuing to offend The Gamers at theboredotcom

Just another Nintenyearold whose mental development stopped during the infantile "not Mario = bad fake movie games" console warring phases of his life.

(The storytelling in Dad of War is still dumb though)
Lol, you're not butthurt at all that I criticised your shitty video games. Not at all.


 :point



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« Reply #31640 on: October 31, 2022, 08:04:31 PM »
Yeah, this is part of why I don’t like Nintendo fans.
Lol, Nintendo ain't got nothing to do with this, but when you're as thick as a brick, you can only go back to the same old distinguished mentally-challenged fellow comments.
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #31641 on: October 31, 2022, 09:40:00 PM »
Stop playing Nintenkiddy garbage and start playing some idle/clicker games if you want to see the boundaries of storytelling pushed. :ufup

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #31642 on: October 31, 2022, 10:04:54 PM »
Stop playing Nintenkiddy garbage and start playing some idle/clicker games if you want to see the boundaries of storytelling pushed. :ufup
Still probably more compelling than The Last of Us or God of War...
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #31643 on: October 31, 2022, 10:29:01 PM »
No Video Game can reach the story-telling eloquence of something like Twilight.

And Twilight is garbage.
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« Reply #31644 on: October 31, 2022, 11:57:56 PM »
Oh on the desktop browser the ignore buttons removes them completly. Like they aren't even here.

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« Reply #31645 on: November 01, 2022, 01:55:31 AM »
Glad to be ignored by you mate.
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« Reply #31646 on: November 01, 2022, 04:16:37 AM »
You got blown the fuck out like a pornstars back at a Twitch con. All you can hope for is a new page to try again.
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« Reply #31647 on: November 01, 2022, 05:35:36 AM »
You'd think the guy would at least boast about pretentious shit like reading Pasolini in his free time, but then he hypes himself for the most vanilla mainstream shlock :doge

Music
New Katatonia album

Movies
Dune Part 2
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
The Super Mario Brothers Movie

TV
Ted Lasso s3
The Bear s2
The Witcher s3
Stranger Things s5
The Boys s4

Games
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Pikmin 4
Sports Story

Sport
Women's World Cup
Seeing how high Newcastle United can finish in the Premier League
Watching Barcelona financially implode in the summer

Other
Continuing to offend The Gamers at theboredotcom

Just another Nintenyearold whose mental development stopped during the infantile "not Mario = bad fake movie games" console warring phases of his life.

(The storytelling in Dad of War is still dumb though)
Lol, you're not butthurt at all that I criticised your shitty video games. Not at all.


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Yes, I'm very offended by a baby hot take formed from a handful of mascot games, Playstation press conferences and GameFAQ console wars. Like after a toddler calling me doodoo head, I am very triggered. Either way, have fun with that goofy Witcher show, as we know that this kind of deep material would be impossible to adapt into a video game.

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« Reply #31648 on: November 01, 2022, 08:01:35 AM »
You'd think the guy would at least boast about pretentious shit like reading Pasolini in his free time, but then he hypes himself for the most vanilla mainstream shlock :doge

Music
New Katatonia album

Movies
Dune Part 2
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
The Super Mario Brothers Movie

TV
Ted Lasso s3
The Bear s2
The Witcher s3
Stranger Things s5
The Boys s4

Games
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Pikmin 4
Sports Story

Sport
Women's World Cup
Seeing how high Newcastle United can finish in the Premier League
Watching Barcelona financially implode in the summer

Other
Continuing to offend The Gamers at theboredotcom

Just another Nintenyearold whose mental development stopped during the infantile "not Mario = bad fake movie games" console warring phases of his life.

(The storytelling in Dad of War is still dumb though)
Lol, you're not butthurt at all that I criticised your shitty video games. Not at all.


 :point

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(Image removed from quote.)

Yes, I'm very offended by a baby hot take formed from a handful of mascot games, Playstation press conferences and GameFAQ console wars. Like after a toddler calling me doodoo head, I am very triggered. Either way, have fun with that goofy Witcher show, as we know that this kind of deep material would be impossible to adapt into a video game.


Wait, you are going to throw that at me and then post this without irony?




Also I wouldn't mind US civil war to get going. So braindead hipsters worldwide finally get the gist that we don't need the same fake-progressive culture wars over here, where we actually have it better. :pacspit Maybe have Biden blow up the Kremlin before that happens though.
:gurl
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #31649 on: November 01, 2022, 10:18:05 AM »
Finally a trailer for Potato.


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« Reply #31650 on: November 01, 2022, 11:39:07 AM »
You'd think the guy would at least boast about pretentious shit like reading Pasolini in his free time, but then he hypes himself for the most vanilla mainstream shlock :doge

Music
New Katatonia album

Movies
Dune Part 2
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
The Super Mario Brothers Movie

TV
Ted Lasso s3
The Bear s2
The Witcher s3
Stranger Things s5
The Boys s4

Games
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Pikmin 4
Sports Story

Sport
Women's World Cup
Seeing how high Newcastle United can finish in the Premier League
Watching Barcelona financially implode in the summer

Other
Continuing to offend The Gamers at theboredotcom

Just another Nintenyearold whose mental development stopped during the infantile "not Mario = bad fake movie games" console warring phases of his life.

(The storytelling in Dad of War is still dumb though)

One need not disavow low art to enjoy high art.

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #31651 on: November 01, 2022, 12:00:08 PM »
Stop playing Nintenkiddy garbage and start playing some idle/clicker games if you want to see the boundaries of storytelling pushed. :ufup

tfw you sell a grandma because it gives you an achievement, and achievements boost your milk production, which boosts your cookie production



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« Reply #31652 on: November 01, 2022, 12:12:52 PM »
You'd think the guy would at least boast about pretentious shit like reading Pasolini in his free time, but then he hypes himself for the most vanilla mainstream shlock :doge

Music
New Katatonia album

Movies
Dune Part 2
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
The Super Mario Brothers Movie

TV
Ted Lasso s3
The Bear s2
The Witcher s3
Stranger Things s5
The Boys s4

Games
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Pikmin 4
Sports Story

Sport
Women's World Cup
Seeing how high Newcastle United can finish in the Premier League
Watching Barcelona financially implode in the summer

Other
Continuing to offend The Gamers at theboredotcom

Just another Nintenyearold whose mental development stopped during the infantile "not Mario = bad fake movie games" console warring phases of his life.

(The storytelling in Dad of War is still dumb though)

One need not disavow low art to enjoy high art.
How about not disavowing any art or at least not being a douche about things you don’t care about?

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #31653 on: November 01, 2022, 03:54:28 PM »
https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1587513793663434752



So far it hasn't affected the new Deus Ex which is still confirmed to be in very early stages, so that's good. lol  Not holding my bruff doh.

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« Reply #31654 on: November 01, 2022, 04:11:22 PM »
Finally a trailer for Potato.


Money well spent, Sony.   :wow

I guess at least they're acknowledging that Kratos is the shittiest of parents... it was hard enough to "relate" to him because of how shitty of a father he is.  Joel at least had well developed fatherly reasoning.   If GOWR is meant to be a fatherly repentance of sorts for Kratos, it doesn't take away that Atreus was never a likeable kid in the first place.  Almost felt shoehorned in.  It's dumb they went this way for such a franchise which has always been intended as action spectacles, nothing more.

Hell, Sony would've been better off bringing back Syphon Filter and have Gabe Logan be a father and you go all-out on a Liam Neeson style thriller akin to TAKEN.

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« Reply #31655 on: November 01, 2022, 04:47:04 PM »
https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1587513793663434752

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So far it hasn't affected the new Deus Ex which is still confirmed to be in very early stages, so that's good. lol  Not holding my bruff doh.
https://twitter.com/VGC_News/status/1587523069056352259

They shuttered the mobile games studio.
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« Reply #31656 on: November 01, 2022, 04:54:27 PM »
Schreeier is such an idiot

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« Reply #31657 on: November 01, 2022, 06:16:17 PM »
Finally a trailer for Potato.


Money well spent, Sony.   :wow

I guess at least they're acknowledging that Kratos is the shittiest of parents... it was hard enough to "relate" to him because of how shitty of a father he is.  Joel at least had well developed fatherly reasoning.   If GOWR is meant to be a fatherly repentance of sorts for Kratos, it doesn't take away that Atreus was never a likeable kid in the first place.  Almost felt shoehorned in.  It's dumb they went this way for such a franchise which has always been intended as action spectacles, nothing more.

Hell, Sony would've been better off bringing back Syphon Filter and have Gabe Logan be a father and you go all-out on a Liam Neeson style thriller akin to TAKEN.
It's almost like these games are poorly written or something...
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« Reply #31658 on: November 01, 2022, 06:16:55 PM »
Schreeier is such an idiot
I think this is something we can all agree on
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« Reply #31659 on: November 01, 2022, 07:04:14 PM »
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« Reply #31660 on: November 01, 2022, 07:40:52 PM »
That explains why I'm not seeing a lot of buzz surrounding the Epic Games Store as of late.
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« Reply #31662 on: November 02, 2022, 12:29:21 AM »
https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1587513793663434752
It had ~200 employees and released a single mobile game over the last six years. Who would even care about this news but he tweets it as a scoop? :lol

https://twitter.com/pcgamer/status/1583610106180431873
I don't get the headline or the line in the article "its overall market capitalisation was overtaken late last month by—of all things—Kweichow Moutai, a Guizhou-based firm specialising in the production of Maotai rice wine", liquor companies are very valuable, this Chinese one seems to be nearly as large as Microsoft. Seagram's once was so large of corporation it owned MCA (aka Universal Studios) and part of DuPont among a bunch of other random things.

Quote from: the article
Maybe Tencent should just pivot into liquor production.

...

Not bad for what is now only China's second most valuable company.
Would they write this article if Microsoft swapped rankings with someone like happens constantly? I doubt it.

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« Reply #31663 on: November 02, 2022, 11:05:44 AM »
What

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« Reply #31664 on: November 02, 2022, 01:32:14 PM »
So the Front Mission 1 remake trailer is out tomorrow with the release at the end of the month. I was under the impression that these FM1 & 2 remakes were going to be budget ass by some D developer, but I guess I missed this video of Front Mission 2 remake gameplay?



Because that looks...pretty solid. Fairly quick and looks very decent enough 3d in a FM4/FM5 way (but a bit less detailed). I guess these FM1/2 remakes could be good after all?

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« Reply #31665 on: November 02, 2022, 05:39:06 PM »


We've reached the point where upping the resolution no longer matters  :doge

8K? Can barely clock the difference between 1440p and 4K. Think with post processing AA solutions softening the image and hiding shimmering details, it literally blurs the lines once it reaches a point. (At least with a 27 inch monitor and 55 inch TV)

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« Reply #31666 on: November 02, 2022, 05:59:05 PM »
ど助平

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« Reply #31667 on: November 03, 2022, 02:54:57 PM »
So the Front Mission 1 remake trailer is out tomorrow with the release at the end of the month. I was under the impression that these FM1 & 2 remakes were going to be budget ass by some D developer, but I guess I missed this video of Front Mission 2 remake gameplay?



Because that looks...pretty solid. Fairly quick and looks very decent enough 3d in a FM4/FM5 way (but a bit less detailed). I guess these FM1/2 remakes could be good after all?

So the FM1 trailer doesn't look quite as good.



I looked into this and basically Forever Entertainment is a publisher (Panzer Dragoon Remake / House of the Dead Remake) that has licensed the old Front Mission games from SE and within Forever Entertainment, different developers are doing the FM1, FM2 and FM3 remakes. Each game has a different developer. So quality may vary between them.

Apparently SE has nothing to do with these games. They just licensed them out for a few bucks.

Hmmm...dunno, will wait for reviews I guess for each of them. FM1 remake doesn't look bad, but the FM2 trailer definitely looks better.

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« Reply #31668 on: November 04, 2022, 12:35:15 AM »


Maaaan this guy gets it. Tri was like a warm blanket, felt between the music and the style I got a lot of Crystal Chronicles enjoyment. Ultimate had more content and later games made things easier and faster (and cut swimming) but yeah, Tri was special.

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« Reply #31669 on: November 04, 2022, 02:53:43 AM »
So the Front Mission 1 remake trailer is out tomorrow with the release at the end of the month. I was under the impression that these FM1 & 2 remakes were going to be budget ass by some D developer, but I guess I missed this video of Front Mission 2 remake gameplay?



Because that looks...pretty solid. Fairly quick and looks very decent enough 3d in a FM4/FM5 way (but a bit less detailed). I guess these FM1/2 remakes could be good after all?

So the FM1 trailer doesn't look quite as good.



I looked into this and basically Forever Entertainment is a publisher (Panzer Dragoon Remake / House of the Dead Remake) that has licensed the old Front Mission games from SE and within Forever Entertainment, different developers are doing the FM1, FM2 and FM3 remakes. Each game has a different developer. So quality may vary between them.

Apparently SE has nothing to do with these games. They just licensed them out for a few bucks.

Hmmm...dunno, will wait for reviews I guess for each of them. FM1 remake doesn't look bad, but the FM2 trailer definitely looks better.


Square can't make these games with their internal staff, it wouldn't get a return on investment. But people paying them to use the license may re-invigorate a property which has been a fan favorite. If any of these hit, it's a win for S-E.

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« Reply #31670 on: November 04, 2022, 12:36:29 PM »
Thank God for cheap outsourced eurojank devs :american

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« Reply #31671 on: November 04, 2022, 12:37:38 PM »
Also they're probably sharing the engine if they're smart, so it makes sense subsequent games are improved.

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« Reply #31672 on: November 05, 2022, 10:02:42 AM »
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« Reply #31674 on: November 05, 2022, 03:15:01 PM »
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« Reply #31675 on: November 05, 2022, 05:45:10 PM »
CoD kids are fucking stupid. They don't care and will grind forever to get something.
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« Reply #31676 on: November 05, 2022, 07:34:43 PM »
gaming was better when all the guns were either pick ups or unlocked by default, and you could mod in whatever skins you wanted.

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« Reply #31677 on: November 05, 2022, 07:46:45 PM »
:confused if that's what call of duty is like now I'll wait another 8 years to play one
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« Reply #31678 on: November 06, 2022, 09:09:54 PM »

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« Reply #31679 on: November 06, 2022, 09:51:03 PM »
PG Classics:
Bayonetta 1/2, Vanquish, Metal Gear Rising

Pretty good:
Nier Automata, Astral Chain

Good:
Transformers Devastation, Anarchy Reigns

Better than it should be:
Legend of Korra

Meh:
Star Fox Zero, Wonderful 101 (should revisit someday to reevaluate)

Unplayable due to controls:
Madworld

Dogshit:
TMNT

Never played:
Babylon’s Fall, Infinite Space, Sol Cresta, World of Demons? (Whatever their mobile game is called)

Don’t think I missed any of them. I still like Platinum overall  :idont

Updating this post a bit. After beating Bayonetta 3 (I replayed B1/2 right before it), felt the urge to play some other PG games. Ended up playing the remastered version of W101 which I kickstarted, and also played through TMNT (lol) which I never went past the first level before.

New ranking categories:-

Decent (but super fucking messy and not tuned/polished as much as it should, otherwise it’d be fairly good):
Bayonetta 3, W101

Meh (but could’ve been fun if it had 4P split screen):
TMNT

I ended up rewatching a system explanation by an old character action games legend called Saurian if anyone here knew or remembers him. That helped me wrap my head around W101’s combat system since the actual game explains jackshit. Had a lot more fun than the first time around because of that, but much of the same issues I originally had with it were still there so I didn’t enjoy it as much as I would’ve liked.

TMNT is actually not too shitty if you judge it by PS2 licensed game standards. Where it fails is that unlike said PS2 licensed games, it doesn’t have local co-op annoyingly. That definitely would’ve elevated it to something fun to waste an evening with the brehs. Amusingly, I think the online servers for it are still up despite the game being delisted for years now. Can’t say with 100% certainty though.

I’ll probably replay Transformers right before GOW:R comes out. Don’t see it changing rankings though. Really enjoyed it back in the day.
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