Author Topic: Dark Souls (Read 261530 times)

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1980 on:** January 11, 2013, 01:21:23 AM »

I also thought it had a cool story and fleshed out some of the characters. Also puppy :'(

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1981 on:** January 11, 2013, 11:43:33 PM »

Just need to get two more slabs and kill the NPCs then I'm ready for the end. Have to say this is easily one of the best games of played.

Raban · « **Reply #1982 on:** January 11, 2013, 11:52:58 PM »

Do you think you'll try NG+ or are you feeling done with it now?

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1983 on:** January 12, 2013, 12:08:57 AM »

I will do NG+ but not sure when. Need to focus on school because this term is going to be brutal.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1984 on:** January 12, 2013, 01:59:54 PM »

The red dragon and final boss were push overs compared to the DLC bosses.

Raban · « **Reply #1985 on:** January 12, 2013, 02:04:58 PM »

Pretty much. What's funny about the Hellkite Wyvern is that he isn't even a boss, it's closer to an "NPC" like Havel or the butchers, he's just a major pain in the ass early in the game.

And yeah, Gwyn is easy. Did you try parrying him or did you just take your big fat sword to him?

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1986 on:** January 12, 2013, 02:30:24 PM »

fat sword, same with the dragon.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1987 on:** January 17, 2013, 02:01:58 PM »

Been breezing through NG+. Trying to level up my character to weld Artorais' great sword

also this is beautiful

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1988 on:** January 17, 2013, 07:16:56 PM »

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1989 on:** January 17, 2013, 07:25:46 PM »

That guy murdered me so many times. :'(

Took him down first time when I replayed on PC, though.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1990 on:** January 18, 2013, 06:28:34 PM »

NG+ is too easy. Killed fatty and skinny on my second try.

Also the sword of atrorais sucks.

Raban · « **Reply #1991 on:** January 19, 2013, 03:28:10 PM »

It'll take a while for the stat bonuses to pay off if you haven't spec'd for it. Are you using the true or cursed version? The cursed one seems to do more damage for me.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1992 on:** January 19, 2013, 04:41:19 PM »

I don't actually know how to tell the difference? How do you make it cursed?

Raban · « **Reply #1993 on:** January 19, 2013, 06:08:56 PM »

You have to get the Soul of Sif again. The true Greatsword of Artorias is silver, and the cursed one is black. You ascend either a +10 Broken Straight Sword or Straight Sword Hilt to get the true version, and any +10 dagger or straight sword for the cursed version.

Even though the moveset is kinda weak (the heavy attacks are basically useless), for its speed, the damage output at +5 makes it the best weapon in the game if you're just going to keep leveling str/dex/int/faith. It's meant for abnormally high level characters, it won't start outclasssing other weapons until you get near level 150 depending on how you've allocated stats.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1994 on:** January 19, 2013, 06:58:12 PM »

Its cursed then.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1995 on:** January 20, 2013, 03:11:00 PM »

NG+ is getting funner and sword of atrorias is getting better. I also used my +10 divine great scythe in the catacombs. That was a fun weapon to use.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #1996 on:** January 29, 2013, 02:16:36 PM »

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1997 on:** January 30, 2013, 12:14:06 AM »

just installed this bitch, what is a good starting class IN 50 WORDS OR LESS

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1998 on:** January 30, 2013, 12:17:17 AM »

Until you get a feel for the game, you're best bet would probably be to start with the warrior. And make sure to pick the master key as your starting gift.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1999 on:** January 30, 2013, 12:18:19 AM »

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #2000 on:** January 30, 2013, 12:51:31 AM »

pyro! Make sure you do the resolution fix. Have fun.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2001 on:** January 30, 2013, 12:58:44 AM »

I installed the resolution fix / 3D vision fixes as directed in the correct order, edited .ini and Nvidia profiles etc...then the game fucking auto-updated on me and borked the lot

the game rendered only some of the shaders and none of the geometry in a tiny box in the upper left corner

oh well, i'm sure it won't take too long to un-bork

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2002 on:** January 30, 2013, 01:22:49 AM »

alright, i am unborked and ready to

this bitch

what do i do next

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2003 on:** January 30, 2013, 01:36:17 AM »

got a sword, got a shield, ready to smite some Asylum Demon

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #2004 on:** January 30, 2013, 02:11:34 AM »

yeah, this is fun stuff. Super-basic so far but the atmosphere is excellent. Been playing in 3D on PC, with headphones and it is heart-pumping. The combat is a bit stiff and canned for my liking so far but I suppose that is part of the design, to make combat more deliberate and make you commit to a move. Do you have to grind then? Or can I just forge ahead

Raban · « **Reply #2005 on:** January 30, 2013, 11:40:28 AM »

If you cannot progress, you will inadvertently "grind" as long as you manage to reach your bloodstain after your numerous inevitable deaths.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #2006 on:** January 30, 2013, 11:56:41 AM »

Ya grinding is pretty much dependent on how much you die. The only time I really felt I had to grind in the game was before fatty and skinny and the grinding didn't actually help.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2007 on:** February 22, 2013, 09:45:22 PM »

Suck it, Pinwheel, you ain't got no game.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2008 on:** February 24, 2013, 09:41:10 PM »

BOOM! Just beat Dark Souls, what a truly incredible gaming experience. Now, I'm super pumped for Dark Souls II, but I guess it's going to be a long wait for that.

Raban · « **Reply #2009 on:** February 24, 2013, 11:19:25 PM »

Welcome to the club

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2010 on:** February 25, 2013, 01:36:32 AM »

That knight boss battle in the DLC was actually a lot harder than the final boss. Final boss was pretty weak actually, although I wussed out and just used one of the pillars in the room as cover.

Raban · « **Reply #2011 on:** February 25, 2013, 11:14:58 AM »

Knight... are you talking about Artorias? I understand he's really easy if you co-op, but on your own I agree that he's a very challenging boss. He's actually my favorite to fight because of his stylish and extremely aggressive attack pattern.

And yeah, I get the feeling the final boss wasn't meant to be menacing in the same way. If you do some digging, the game gives you a few clues regarding why he's like that. I don't think I've ever tried legitimately fighting him though, I just parry+riposte him to death.

chronovore · « **Reply #2012 on:** June 29, 2014, 10:43:48 AM »

PREPARE TO ~~DIE~~ RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE.

Chrono casts Thread_Necro; save vs. SAN -- wait, wrong system(s).

Wow, I suck at this game.

What the hell is Humanity, why do I need it, should I stay human instead of zombie-mode, and why does it seem to come-and-go so easily?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #2013 on:** June 29, 2014, 10:52:55 AM »

humanity allows you to do two things:

kindle bonfires (which increase how much estus you can get from resting at the bonfires)

returning to human form. doing this allows for a few things in game: 1, it means you can be invaded by other online players randomly and also NPC characters at set locations. 2, you can summon other online players and NPC characters. Summoning happens usually near bonfires and right before boss gates.

you lose all humanity and return to undead form when you die.

there may be other things it does but that's really the most relevant.

chronovore · « **Reply #2014 on:** June 29, 2014, 11:09:33 AM »

Thanks!

Is there a way to regain Humanity, the way you regain Souls if you recover them?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #2015 on:** June 29, 2014, 11:54:27 AM »

I'm not sure, actually. I think you can recover it at your blood stain when it's stored but not being used.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #2016 on:** June 29, 2014, 11:55:52 AM »

Quote from: chronovore on June 29, 2014, 11:09:33 AM

Thanks!

Is there a way to regain Humanity, the way you regain Souls if you recover them?

Yes. With Human Effigies in Dark Souls 2 IIRC. In Dark Souls 1 it's (obviously titled) "Humanity" items. You can farm these from the rats in the Undead Parish/sewers if you have high enough luck and time to get them to drop. Otherwise farming enemies around bonfires enough will give you ONE up to like 10 to use. Having more Humanity in Dark Souls 1 gives you more resistances than just your stats. But if you don't gain your body you lose your 10+ humanity.

Might as well use them to go human unless you don't want to be invaded.

chronovore · « **Reply #2017 on:** June 29, 2014, 07:38:04 PM »

Nice. OK, thanks. "Regain the body" means going back to the bloodstain where I died? Or the green, glowing Soul bundle? It's the same place, right?

Raban · « **Reply #2018 on:** June 29, 2014, 09:19:22 PM »

Yes. It's effectively a corpse run.

chronovore · « **Reply #2019 on:** July 13, 2014, 08:02:35 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 12, 2014, 11:01:27 PM

Died against Capra Demon. 20k Souls. I will defeat you and get them back.

I remember that guy giving me a heart-attack.

The last time I played this game, I got as far as Blight-town and had spent almost the entire time Hollowed. The one time I was invaded, I wrecked the other guy like no-one's business.

I had no idea what Humanity did or what its advantages were. This time I was harvesting Humanity the hard way in Undead Parrish, cleaning out everything to get one or two Humanity, and Reverse Hollowing. Turns out there are a lot more assholes in the world of Dark Souls now. I was invaded twice in 40 minutes last night, and I was smashola'd badly each time, by dudes in much, much better gear than I've got. I mean, I was hitting them, but didn't even make a dent in their HP bar.

Now I'm trepidatious about becoming Human. It feels like there are people waiting to take advantage of lower level players. It's frustrating, but that's the definitive vibe of Dark Souls.

Is a Great Axe pretty good? Seems better than the broadsword I was rolling earlier.

Himu · « **Reply #2020 on:** July 13, 2014, 09:50:27 AM »

Don't bother being human unless you need to do co op or summon. dark soul invaders are assholes. Nothing wrong with being hollowed. Humanity is also rare. So it makes sense to conserve it anyways. kindling is more useful use of humanity than being human.

Himu · « **Reply #2021 on:** July 13, 2014, 10:31:39 AM »

One thing I'm enjoying heavily this go around is the story. I dunno, the story is fascinating, light, interpretive. It doesn't hold your hand, and feels authentic. It's like a Metroid or something in terms of isolating storytelling. Really impressive stuff. Always a huge fan of minimalist game stories and it works surprisingly well for an rpg.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #2022 on:** July 13, 2014, 12:06:45 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on July 13, 2014, 09:50:27 AM

Don't bother being human unless you need to do co op or summon. dark soul invaders are assholes. Nothing wrong with being hollowed. Humanity is also rare. So it makes sense to conserve it anyways. kindling is more useful use of humanity than being human.

Not really.

Farm rats with 1-5 humanity + serpent ring. Proceed to get a bunch of humanity consumes.

chronovore · « **Reply #2023 on:** July 15, 2014, 03:21:53 AM »

I'm trying to determine if I've even ever been to ANOR LANDO.

The dark souls wiki mentions that area opening up after Undead Parish, but the description of the solution for making the way to the ring doesn't sound at all familiar.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #2024 on:** July 15, 2014, 07:39:58 AM »

Quote from: chronovore on July 15, 2014, 03:21:53 AM

I'm trying to determine if I've even ever been to ANOR LANDO.

The dark souls wiki mentions that area opening up after Undead Parish, but the description of the solution for making the way to the ring doesn't sound at all familiar.

Have you done Sen's Fortress/"Funhouse" yet? If no, then you head that direction. If yes, did you beat the boss? No? Then there you go. Yes, then you need to hit the "ring" the boss left.

chronovore · « **Reply #2025 on:** July 15, 2014, 09:04:57 AM »

Thanks for your response. The first run, I did beat this boss. These are the gargoyles on the roof of the church, right?

On this run, starting from zero, I have yet to beat those gargoyles. I've made three attempts to get from the bonfire to the fog door, and have been invaded each time.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #2026 on:** July 15, 2014, 09:27:46 AM »

Timewise, from the start of the game to Anor, the gargoyles are 1/3 to 1/2 between the two. There will be a cgi movie when you get to Anor.

chronovore · « **Reply #2027 on:** July 21, 2014, 09:05:07 AM »

HEY! I didn't know that I could opt-in for Offline Gameplay... that shuts out invaders entirely.

I had come from a World of Tanks session where some idiot was using their Kinect microphone, and EVERYTHING was audible in his room, including his own game audio, coughs, and runny nose snorts. In these cases I always use the XBL Party to start a one-man Party and block out chat audio from everyone. When I started Dark Souls while still in a Party, the game will not allow Online Gameplay.

I made it up to the roof, summoned Praise-the-Sun-Boy, and went to freakin' town on the Gargoyles. Last time I didn't get the helm, so I was happy it dropped this time.

Then, feeling pretty good, I spent everything I could on stats, and went for a casual wander around the old digs while wondering where to go next. It was a bad idea.

I was in the area near the game's 2nd bonfire, where the firebombers are overlooking that narrow bridge. Wanted to target a guy ahead of me, instead targeted a firebomber above and to the left of the bridge, and the change in contextual movement immediately made me walk off the bridge. "YOU ARE DEAD."

Unfortunately I hadn't checked into a bonfire, so I had a long trek back. On the way, I slipped up against a mob and died again. :'(

Tonight I looked online about how to do Parries/Ripostes because the Asylum's "tutorial" moment didn't work for me, and now I am going back and revisiting all the early areas, wrecking major undead ass with parrying and riposting. It makes the battles a lot more exciting!

Himu · « **Reply #2028 on:** July 21, 2014, 09:32:10 AM »

How the fuck do I co opt out of online

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #2029 on:** July 21, 2014, 09:59:21 AM »

Just stay undead?

chronovore · « **Reply #2030 on:** July 21, 2014, 05:52:03 PM »

Yeah, I'm staying undead for most of the game; my problem is that I needed to be human to summon Solaire, and all four invasions I went through were en route to the "fog door" before the roof's Gargoyles.

I'd love to not look like a piece of beef jerky, but it's not going to happen!

Himu · « **Reply #2031 on:** July 21, 2014, 06:07:04 PM »

One time I got invaded two seconds away from the fog door. Just what the fuck. I ask about that because I want to be good at invasions eventually especially since in ds2, you're handicapped in undead form.

chronovore · « **Reply #2032 on:** July 21, 2014, 07:14:12 PM »

Yeah, I was two mobs away once, and the dude was waiting just before the fog door, so he just rolled up while I was already busy with those mobs. I should have retreated, ran my ass to a clear area, but I was already so pissed off that this was the fourth time I'd tried the run, only to be invaded each time.

I'm finally in Darkroot (Darkmoon?) Garden again; going to destroy that damned butterfly boss, so I can get the ember, so I can upgrade the blacksmith, so I can turn my great axe into an Occult weapon, so I can destroy the Black Knight in Undead Parish.

It's good to have a plan?

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2033 on:** July 21, 2014, 07:20:46 PM »

The only time I got invaded in DS2 was when I went into specific areas that are defended by PCs [they're optional areas and fighting off the invaders is part of the experience].

Himu · « **Reply #2034 on:** July 21, 2014, 07:58:37 PM »

Dark souls invading is awful to be honest. What does it even add to the game?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #2035 on:** July 21, 2014, 08:29:10 PM »

risk reward for going human and online interaction.

chronovore · « **Reply #2036 on:** July 22, 2014, 01:11:25 AM »

Apparently there /is/ some form of leveling for Invasion ranking, "SL" --?? I haven't looked into it yet. All I know is I'm slumming it up in Balder's armor and some rags, and these guys are rocking some seriously nice gear when they pop into my realm and wreck me.

Invasion is apparently an easy way to get Humanity and Souls?

brob · « **Reply #2037 on:** July 22, 2014, 04:28:37 AM »

SL stands for soul level, it's the cumulative level of all your leveling up. There are groupings of SL to the invasion system (a SL120 player cannot invade a SL40 player, etc). Gear is not accounted for though, so you can still have players who are tremendously more powerful invade you. Anyway, if you are being hindered in trying to summon a NPC phantom by online invasions you could play offline, until you are passed that part.

chronovore · « **Reply #2038 on:** July 22, 2014, 10:59:34 AM »

Thanks, yeah, as mentioned that is exactly what ended up happening. I didn't even know it was possible, but just being in a Party means no online play. YAY!

chronovore · « **Reply #2039 on:** July 24, 2014, 07:05:59 PM »

Darkroot Garden is super short up to its Fog Door, and I recall having big problems with the moonlight moth thing.

I've backtracked and decided to see if the skeletons in the graveyard are any easier now. They are, but they're still a ton of work. The giant skellies are surprisingly easy to beat, but the standard ones are fast, and the attacks seem to quickly drain my stamina bar and wreck my Poise.

Few things are as satisfying as kicking one off from a ledge to his awkwardly-posed doom.

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Author Topic: Dark Souls (Read 261530 times)