Author Topic: star trek (Read 330920 times)

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #1740 on:** May 23, 2019, 02:58:58 PM »

I'm calling it it's going to be STD 2.0.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1741 on:** May 23, 2019, 03:03:58 PM »

No one's ever really gone.

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #1742 on:** May 23, 2019, 03:04:47 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on May 23, 2019, 03:03:58 PM

No one's ever really gone.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #1743 on:** May 23, 2019, 03:46:27 PM »

Yeah right, as if this is going to be any good, or as good as TNG. Gonna be crap

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1744 on:** May 23, 2019, 03:48:33 PM »

Himu · « **Reply #1745 on:** May 23, 2019, 04:13:52 PM »

Quote from: MMaRsu on May 23, 2019, 03:46:27 PM

Yeah right, as if this is going to be any good, or as good as TNG. Gonna be crap

Shits on Picard which was has award winning sci-fi writer attached to it, shills Game of Thrones season 8.

Checks out.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #1746 on:** May 23, 2019, 04:32:28 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on May 23, 2019, 04:13:52 PM

Quote from: MMaRsu on May 23, 2019, 03:46:27 PM
Yeah right, as if this is going to be any good, or as good as TNG. Gonna be crap

Shits on Picard which was has award winning sci-fi writer attached to it, shills Game of Thrones season 8.

Checks out.

Tasty · « **Reply #1747 on:** May 23, 2019, 06:49:10 PM »

Motherfuckers got me...

Himu · « **Reply #1748 on:** May 24, 2019, 08:00:06 AM »

I'm cautious, I'm optimistic. I'm much more the latter than the former given the names involved.

benjipwns · « **Reply #1749 on:** May 24, 2019, 11:49:51 AM »

voiceover sounds like Gina Torres to me

toku · « **Reply #1750 on:** May 24, 2019, 11:55:33 PM »

Tasty · « **Reply #1751 on:** May 25, 2019, 12:23:59 AM »

What kind of blackmail does Mike have on Jay

Kara · « **Reply #1752 on:** May 25, 2019, 01:00:04 AM »

Quote from: TEEEPO on May 10, 2019, 05:21:44 AM

am i the only person here who loved season 2? whatevs

It reminded me a lot of Enterprise in that too much of the content was navel gazing references to past shows, and by references I don't mean someone shouting, "Khan!" I mean a sequel to the pilot episode of The Original Series. Shut up, nerds.

That said it was just offensive in the sense that it ran back to its mommy (the fans who couldn't economically support this IP in the first place) and not because the episodes themselves were repellant (well except for the penultimate episode that was straight out of a Mass Effect game). Some of the storylines had emotionally resonant arcs and conclusions, even.

Occam · « **Reply #1753 on:** May 25, 2019, 01:33:20 PM »

Quote from: toku on May 24, 2019, 11:55:33 PM

I don't get this. As I said in the other thread, almost nothing regarding Star Trek's science ever made any sense whatsoever.
Did it really take them 50 years to notice? It's always been deus ex machina whenever needed.

And the science isn't the only part of Star Trek that makes zero sense. Society, all those humanoid alien species, none of it does. So what, its degree of realism is not what makes Star Trek enjoyable.

Himu · « **Reply #1754 on:** May 25, 2019, 03:58:54 PM »

Quote from: Occam on May 25, 2019, 01:33:20 PM

Quote from: toku on May 24, 2019, 11:55:33 PM

I don't get this. As I said in the other thread, almost nothing regarding Star Trek's science ever made any sense whatsoever.
Did it really take them 50 years to notice? It's always been deus ex machina whenever needed.

And the science isn't the only part of Star Trek that makes zero sense. Society, all those humanoid alien species, none of it does. So what, its degree of realism is not what makes Star Trek enjoyable.

It’s the fact that everything is convenient that’s the issue and science worship which Trek never did. This ain’t about realisim.

Occam · « **Reply #1755 on:** May 25, 2019, 04:13:22 PM »

Hmm, the only thing that seemed a little too easy was how quickly and effortlessly the crystal-charging device (and the suit) were built. The core issue was the time travel story, and there was only one way it could end: with everything falling into place.

Edit: So Star Trek never did science worship? Come on. A good portion of all episodes revolve around finding a scientific solution to a problem. There is also Wesley Crusher.

Himu · « **Reply #1756 on:** May 25, 2019, 05:30:47 PM »

A scientific answer is not the same as proudly exclaiming “I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE!”

Just one example.

Oh, I definitely remember in previous Star Trek’s when they declared ho much of a nerd they were for science. Science fuck yeah!

Occam · « **Reply #1757 on:** May 25, 2019, 06:08:41 PM »

Eh, if that's the worst criticism...

Maybe it was an allusion to The Martian. I actually think there are way too few people declaring their love for science in the world of today. Especially in America.

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #1758 on:** May 25, 2019, 06:11:31 PM »

Ill just leave this here.

Himu · « **Reply #1759 on:** May 25, 2019, 07:11:16 PM »

Quote from: Occam on May 25, 2019, 06:08:41 PM

Eh, if that's the worst criticism...

Maybe it was an allusion to The Martian. I actually think there are way too few people declaring their love for science in the world of today. Especially in America.

That’s hardly the only criticism. Notice the shitty camera work? Also making fun of discovery. The arguments is that Discovery has an overly inflated sense of self, no real direction, poor writing, navel gazing, and extremely poor production while presenting nothing in the way of a traditional Trek experience. Reusing characters and entire stories/plots from previous Trek shows is another criticism but it is not present in that video. After all, it’s called In A Nutshell.

I say all of this despite being a defender of Disco during s1.

Himu · « **Reply #1760 on:** May 26, 2019, 10:57:36 AM »

Great sample of how Trek handles scientific questions here. Philosophical, measured. Does Discovery do this?

Potato · « **Reply #1761 on:** May 27, 2019, 02:00:50 AM »

So, after really enjoying watching Discovery with my Trekkie mate, I am hyped for Picard, but feel the need to get familiar with the source material.

How much 90s sci fi tomfoolery am I in for if I attempt to watch TNG from start to finish?

I just started S1 and the cringe factor is pretty high.

Tasty · « **Reply #1762 on:** May 27, 2019, 07:39:53 AM »

A former, more purist version of myself believed that if you don't like TNG s3-s7, you don't like Trek.

Himu · « **Reply #1763 on:** May 27, 2019, 09:07:55 AM »

Quote from: Potato on May 27, 2019, 02:00:50 AM

So, after really enjoying watching Discovery with my Trekkie mate, I am hyped for Picard, but feel the need to get familiar with the source material.

How much 90s sci fi tomfoolery am I in for if I attempt to watch TNG from start to finish?

I just started S1 and the cringe factor is pretty high.

S1 sucks straight up. You just gotta power through and stick with it.

Things pick up during s2.

The show gets good during s3. The best seasons are 3-6. 7 is the final season and the quality is lower and while not on par with 1 it’s just full of lazy stories.

The good thing about TNG is there’s no problem with watching a random episode. I won’t tell you to skip whole seasons like other Trekkies but I will suggest to maybe watch some pivotal episodes in the future to know what you think. If you like them they will increase your affinity towards the cast and you will have greater drive to continue on.

These are episodes are:

A Matter of Honor (s2)
Who Watches the Watchers (s3)
The Wounded (s4)
The Offspring (s3)

These aren’t even episodes considered the top of TNG. They’re just random, good episodes. Watch them and let us know what you think and see if you want to continue on because TNG is a show that requires investment due to its size.

Himu · « **Reply #1764 on:** May 27, 2019, 09:11:09 AM »

It’s also helpful if you can find appreciation in TNG even during the cringey s1. I swear to you it improved leaps and bounds in s2, which I am actually a fan of despite fans lumping it with s1.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1765 on:** May 27, 2019, 10:00:54 AM »

Tasty · « **Reply #1766 on:** May 27, 2019, 11:17:15 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 27, 2019, 10:00:54 AM

Must have watched this over 1000 times and it's never gotten old.

benjipwns · « **Reply #1767 on:** June 12, 2019, 05:51:42 AM »

https://twitter.com/BrentSpiner/status/1138144170898366465

Kara · « **Reply #1768 on:** June 12, 2019, 09:47:49 AM »

LttP but season 1 of The Next Generation has some amazing instances of terminal nerd horniness to laugh at and it's full of away missions that look like they were shot on sets that were left over from The Original Series. Can't miss TV.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #1769 on:** June 14, 2019, 12:17:45 PM »

Momo · « **Reply #1770 on:** June 15, 2019, 05:03:21 PM »

Star Trek Enterprise is the horniest of the treks

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1771 on:** June 16, 2019, 12:19:54 AM »

Quote from: Momo on June 15, 2019, 05:03:21 PM

Star Trek Enterprise is the horniest of the treks

But Enterprise is like CW horny. TNG is PBS horny.

Momo · « **Reply #1772 on:** June 18, 2019, 12:48:23 PM »

https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/17/18682802/jj-abrams-bad-robot-warnermedia-att-apple-netflix-streaming-wars

Great news star trek fans!

benjipwns · « **Reply #1773 on:** June 18, 2019, 12:54:43 PM »

I doubt anybody's paying half a billion for anything to do with Trek, especially Film Trek

From that article I learned that Netflix apparently paid $100 million for the streaming rights to Friends...for one year.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1774 on:** June 18, 2019, 01:12:00 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on June 18, 2019, 12:54:43 PM

I doubt anybody's paying half a billion for anything to do with Trek, especially Film Trek

From that article I learned that Netflix apparently paid $100 million for the streaming rights to Friends...for one year.

What a dummy, I only paid $12.99 a month to have the streaming rights to Friends.

Momo · « **Reply #1775 on:** June 18, 2019, 01:24:30 PM »

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1776 on:** June 18, 2019, 01:26:13 PM »

Quote from: MMaRsu on June 14, 2019, 12:17:45 PM

Himu · « **Reply #1777 on:** June 18, 2019, 05:09:32 PM »

Quote from: Momo on June 18, 2019, 12:48:23 PM

https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/17/18682802/jj-abrams-bad-robot-warnermedia-att-apple-netflix-streaming-wars

Great news star trek fans!

How is this great news?

Trek being two different entities will never be good for the franchise

Did you forget the /s?

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #1778 on:** June 18, 2019, 05:24:31 PM »

If it leads to actual original universe trek with at least a basic understanding of writing and respect for canon i'm game.

Momo · « **Reply #1779 on:** June 18, 2019, 06:02:14 PM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on June 18, 2019, 05:09:32 PM

Quote from: Momo on June 18, 2019, 12:48:23 PM
https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/17/18682802/jj-abrams-bad-robot-warnermedia-att-apple-netflix-streaming-wars

Great news star trek fans!

How is this great news?

Trek being two different entities will never be good for the franchise

Did you forget the /s?

it's quite the opposite, bad robot won't be making star trek for paramount anymore and hopefully then cbs/paramount/shitty star trek friends can go forward and licence this shit sensibly going forward. Either make it themselves (kek) or give it to someone like Amazon who still has something to prove, some good talent signed up and money to spend.

Momo · « **Reply #1780 on:** June 18, 2019, 06:14:06 PM »

Worst case scenario, the deal between CBS and paramount stays as is and they find even bigger hacks to continue this weird tvshow/classic/movie licencing electric boogaloo

Momo · « **Reply #1781 on:** June 19, 2019, 02:05:28 AM »

http://trekcore.com/blog/2019/06/new-alex-kurtzman-star-trek-updates-picard-discovery-lower-decks-more/

rip

MMaRsu · « **Reply #1782 on:** June 19, 2019, 02:16:10 AM »

Quote from: Momo on June 19, 2019, 02:05:28 AM

http://trekcore.com/blog/2019/06/new-alex-kurtzman-star-trek-updates-picard-discovery-lower-decks-more/

rip

This guy has no fucking clue what makes Star Trek great. Fucker still thinks its some kid show for 6 year olds. Jesus christ

VomKriege · « **Reply #1783 on:** June 19, 2019, 05:17:04 AM »

Quote from: MMaRsu on June 19, 2019, 02:16:10 AM

Quote from: Momo on June 19, 2019, 02:05:28 AM
http://trekcore.com/blog/2019/06/new-alex-kurtzman-star-trek-updates-picard-discovery-lower-decks-more/

rip

This guy has no fucking clue what makes Star Trek great. Fucker still thinks its some kid show for 6 year olds. Jesus christ

Just to play Devil's ZattMurdock Esquire LLC for a minute, franchises (or long running IPs) have to be accessible and optimally keep bringing new blood into the audience if they want to continue to exist as franchises. It doesn't have to inherently be synonymous with "dumb" but it's harder to sell or pull off.

Momo · « **Reply #1784 on:** June 19, 2019, 05:34:19 AM »

Pokemon has used the same story for 200000000 episodes and it still gets omega viewers

Himu · « **Reply #1785 on:** June 19, 2019, 07:21:44 AM »

Yes. When has Star Trek ever tried to appeal to little kids and help build the brand?

Oh.

Stop being so hyperbolic.

toku · « **Reply #1786 on:** June 25, 2019, 11:07:11 AM »

https://twitter.com/LeeBinding/status/1143463240812453888

Tasty · « **Reply #1787 on:** June 25, 2019, 11:12:53 AM »

Quote from: toku on June 25, 2019, 11:07:11 AM

https://twitter.com/LeeBinding/status/1143463240812453888

Reading up on what was in those documents, it's so incredibly tame and both of them even admit nothing even happened... Hard to believe that's all it used to take to end someone's political career.

Now every politician is a fucking zombie that won't fucking fuck off.

Himu · « **Reply #1788 on:** June 25, 2019, 11:19:54 AM »

Quote from: toku on June 25, 2019, 11:07:11 AM

https://twitter.com/LeeBinding/status/1143463240812453888

what am i missing here? Domino effect? Jack Ryan? The Tom Clancy character?

Tasty · « **Reply #1789 on:** June 25, 2019, 11:20:51 AM »

Click through and expand to see the full image.

Himu · « **Reply #1790 on:** June 25, 2019, 11:22:41 AM »

oh ok

neat

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1791 on:** June 25, 2019, 11:29:11 AM »

Then Obama roasted Donald Trump at that White House dinner, and here we are. Thanks, Rick Berman.

Momo · « **Reply #1792 on:** June 25, 2019, 11:42:30 AM »

lul

lul

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #1793 on:** June 27, 2019, 02:56:33 PM »

https://twitter.com/startrekcbs/status/1144282763433930752

Himu · « **Reply #1794 on:** June 27, 2019, 02:59:44 PM »

Show just keeps getting more and more hype

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #1795 on:** June 28, 2019, 11:49:44 AM »

Tasty · « **Reply #1796 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:18:01 PM »

Math, fuck yeah!!!!

Tasty · « **Reply #1797 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:25:29 PM »

Gotta admit, Picard wearing an Enterprise-turned-Gundam mech suit and punching Borg cubes in space still sounds better than Kurtzman's plans for Amazing Spider-Man and the Dark Universe.

Himu · « **Reply #1798 on:** June 28, 2019, 12:35:07 PM »

Jay’s “this is due to the power of math” is just so hilarious even months later

Tasty · « **Reply #1799 on:** June 28, 2019, 01:06:36 PM »

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