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99% sure she was about to say tinge.

But even if not, following up "being black" with "or a funny..." was already a carcrash :lol

Yeah there's not much doubt about it.
Reminds me of Nadine Morano "I'm not racist, I have friends blacker than Arabs" but she was on the Sarkozy Right, so fairly unsurprising, not friggin' Labour.
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never been more proud of my country. we are finally getting a wall too

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1089881121486241792

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Thats what I thought too  :lol

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Now foreign aid for Venezuela is stockpiling in Pacaraima, Brazil. Maduro closing the ports off and the Brazilian border. Colombian border still open. The plan is obviously to accelerate the instability in Venezuela until there's real chaos and then the aid will be right there at the ready to be distributed by the opposition. Maduro is already distributing Russian aid, although I don't know how much that is compared to the "$20 million" sitting in Cúcuta.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47326675

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Dozens of normally loyal Conservative MPs could rebel against the government in a bid to prevent a "no-deal" Brexit, Downing Street has been warned.

All is good in Westminster.

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Now foreign aid for Venezuela is stockpiling in Pacaraima, Brazil. Maduro closing the ports off and the Brazilian border. Colombian border still open. The plan is obviously to accelerate the instability in Venezuela until there's real chaos and then the aid will be right there at the ready to be distributed by the opposition. Maduro is already distributing Russian aid, although I don't know how much that is compared to the "$20 million" sitting in Cúcuta.
Trump will be throwing paper towels at hungy Venezuelans in a week.  :teehee
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The plan is obviously to accelerate the instability in Venezuela until there's real chaos and then the aid will be right there at the ready to be distributed by the opposition.

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The political showdown convulsing Venezuela escalated into deadly violence near the border with Brazil on Friday, as security forces fired on a group of indigenous Venezuelans protesting the government’s determination to block aid deliveries from outside the country.

Witnesses and local officials reported the confrontation a day after President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela, facing the biggest challenge of his political career, ordered all crossings at the Brazil border closed.

At least two civilians were killed and more than a dozen wounded in the confrontation with security forces in the Gran Sabana area, along Venezuela’s southeast border with Brazil, according to Américo de Grazia, an opposition lawmaker from the state of Bolívar.
Reminder that this has been the opposition's strategy for five years, since the 2014 elections: cause "chaos in the streets", instigate a violent confrontation with police, and then use that as international leverage. The police are really predictable, too, and always resort to violence, so this plan usually works.
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Look at all these free people celebrating the end of another shitty socialist state

https://www.venezuelaaidlive.com/

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https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1099330804763774977

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London (CNN)Brexit could be on the brink of being postponed.

Three senior UK ministers have issued a warning to Theresa May that Britain's departure from the European Union should be delayed if there is no breakthrough on her deal in the next few days.
Writing in the UK's Daily Mail newspaper, cabinet members Amber Rudd, David Gauke and Greg Clark signaled they would support a vote in Parliament to have the Article 50 process extended in order to prevent Britain leaving the EU without a deal.

"If there is no breakthrough in the coming week, the balance of opinion in Parliament is clear -- that it would be better to seek to extend Article 50 and delay our date of departure rather than crash out of the European Union on March 29," the trio wrote in the article published Saturday.
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https://twitter.com/evagolinger/status/1099363075394801664

Batman's not in The Avengers, he's not even in the MCU! How embarrassing for the protesters.
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Will Maduro flee to Turkey or will we find him raped in a ditch like Qadaffi.

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https://twitter.com/WCKitchen/status/1099387679383453698

Your move, La Carlota protestors

Edit: actually that crowd has already mostly dispersed. :neogaf We end today with this:

https://mobile.twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1099388693125758976
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How was the secret revealed? Russian soldiers involved in the fighting posted details of the battle on social media.
I mean, let's not exaggerate here. As soon as the fighting happened there were eyewitness accounts of Russian military operating in Donetsk. I saw pictures and they weren't selfies. This is like the most ridiculous article ever spun out of a minor policy development.
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https://twitter.com/PA/status/1099683283862990848

I thought the US congress was bad about deadlines and funding basic shit. We're getting a civic lesson on a country literally having no idea what to do.

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That leaves 18 days to fix it all kick the can down the road.

Sigh. End this shitshow already. :goty2
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That leaves 18 days to fix it all kick the can down the road.

Sigh. End this shitshow already. :goty2

What's the end? I don't think they actually do it in the end because it actually means losing their(Parliament) own personal wealth. Even the grifters don't think they can make any more money on Brexit.

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https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1099726515292508162

This tweet is fucking me up

"The adults in the room."
Isn't it a bit of common wisdom that the grotesque horror of Kadhafi's demise (as a cherry on top of the West accepting him again as an international partner after shunning him and then fucking him up by overstepping their UN mandate without even bothering with the facade of a trial / way out... All in the space of a few years.) actually hardened attitudes and distrust towards Western diplomacy  ? Maybe not the most responsible statement to make...

Besides...

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Isn't it a bit of common wisdom that the grotesque horror of Kadhafi's demise actually hardened attitudes and distrust towards Western diplomacy  ?
That's exactly what drives the strategy of someone like Kim Jong Un. But the tweet's purpose isn't diplomacy. It's fascist theater, to delight the base, to remind ourselves that we rip our enemies apart. This is the war beat of the bloodthirsty.
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https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1099726515292508162

This tweet is fucking me up

"The adults in the room."
Isn't it a bit of common wisdom that the grotesque horror of Kadhafi's demise (as a cherry on top of the West accepting him again as an international partner after shunning him and then fucking him up by overstepping their UN mandate without even bothering with the facade of a trial / way out... All in the space of a few years.) actually hardened attitudes and distrust towards Western diplomacy  ? Maybe not the most responsible statement to make...

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:thinking

The Gators are mascot of University of Florida.

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How convenient it also doubles as a dogwhistle :thinking  :gamergate
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https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1099726515292508162

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Will Maduro flee to Turkey or will we find him raped in a ditch like Qadaffi.

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Our boi dolan is slow walking this. After the trick he pulled with Richard Branson's trucks Clinton would've had Maduro face down in the dirt by Sunday morning.
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Legit lol'd. Okay Nintex, you get a like for that one. I am loosening sanctions on your account.
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Meanwhile... Protests in Alger over the candidacy of the incumbent President Bouteflika. It's not the Arab Spring but still fairly notable as those aren't really allowed. Bouteflika has already completed four successive mandates since 1999 despite suffering a severe stroke in 2013. Since then he's wheelchair bound, regularly abroad for medical treatment, almost invisible and definitely not giving any speeches. The reality is that Bouteflika is basically the ornemental figurehead of the aging and decaying nomanklatura that have been pulling the strings for a long time now. That they can't come up with anyone else than a man suspected of being barely lucid or severely incapacitated is pretty worrying for when they ultimately all croak (which shouldn't be that far off now) considering Algeria had an horrific civil war that bred some of the most violent tendencies of Islamic terrorism in the not so distant past. Can only hope the youth will rise up to the occasion, God knows we could use more sensible regimes worldwide now.
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Hey, man, maybe you didn't read the part of the Bible where Jesus and his followers went to Rome, beat Caesar bloody, and then raped him to death in a ditch! :bolo
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https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1100084331266088960

Tough talk but still no freedom and ditch rapin'

Kim Jun Un gets Trump quality time while Juan Guaidó gets soy boi pence and marco

better strike now before journo's start fact checking how Richard's trucks got on fire.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47363307


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Labour has said it is prepared to back another EU referendum to prevent a "damaging Tory Brexit".

Jeremy Corbyn has told Labour MPs the party will move to back another vote if their own proposed Brexit deal is rejected on Wednesday.

Labour's Emily Thornberry said if the parliamentary process ended with a choice of no deal or the PM's deal, the public should decide.


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Follower of Christ probably just means he follows someone named Christ on Twitter.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47362962

Iran's foreign minister quits. Bad new for what was left of JCPOA, good news for Iran hawks though.

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"I apologise for not being able to continue in the post and for all the shortcomings and flaws in the period," he wrote.
It was not your fault breh  :tocry
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Labour has said it is prepared to back another EU referendum to prevent a "damaging Tory Brexit".

Jeremy Corbyn has told Labour MPs the party will move to back another vote if their own proposed Brexit deal is rejected on Wednesday.

Labour's Emily Thornberry said if the parliamentary process ended with a choice of no deal or the PM's deal, the public should decide.


:rofl

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Brexit pretty much fuck both Labor and the Tories, because they're both split pretty evenly between Remain and Leave supporters? Whatever position you take you're alienating a huge chunk of your supporters.

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With any luck they can delay long enough for a significant chunks of leavers to just die off.

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Labour has said it is prepared to back another EU referendum to prevent a "damaging Tory Brexit".

Jeremy Corbyn has told Labour MPs the party will move to back another vote if their own proposed Brexit deal is rejected on Wednesday.

Labour's Emily Thornberry said if the parliamentary process ended with a choice of no deal or the PM's deal, the public should decide.


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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Brexit pretty much fuck both Labor and the Tories, because they're both split pretty evenly between Remain and Leave supporters? Whatever position you take you're alienating a huge chunk of your supporters.

There's many angles on this brexit thing
- The mutineers (They both want Brexit no matter the cost and they want May to pack her bags. Rees Mogg)

- The Brexiteers (They want to leave the EU no matter what. TAKE BAKC COTNROL)

- The Brexiteers that want to have the cake and eat it too (They want to leave the EU on paper but remain in the common market. Boris Johnson!)

- The 'better deal' faction (They don't like the current deal and they don't like no deal. They'd prefer a better deal and they think that's possible if May went back to Brussels again.... again)

- The 'no-deal' or 'deal' faction (They don't want this deal, they're not clear on what sort of deal they would support but they don't want no-deal either. This was the Brexit secretary(Dominic Raab) position)
 
- The deal faction (They want this deal because they are convinced it is the only deal they're ever going to get)

- The 'different deal' faction (They keep telling that there should be a different deal than this deal. Not really 'better' but 'different'. Corbyn used to be here)

- The against Brexit but accept the will of the people faction (Those that don't want the Brexit at all but feel that it has to be done because of the vote. This is basically May's position)

- The 'Let's Try Again!' faction (They want a second referendum on Brexit, which means that there will be a third referendum)

- The 'Let's try something new' faction (They want a aye/nay referendum on May's deal, not necessarily a Brexit referendum)

- The Delay faction (They want the Brexit or not but they feel that the whole thing should be postponed regardless)

- The General Election faction (They think that a new PM would do better than May)

- The 'freedom of movement' faction (Want to stick in the EU but don't want the 'freedom of movement' that comes with it)

- The against Brexit faction (They just want the whole thing reversed and scrapped but they don't want to go back to the way it was as an EU member. They want some serious concessions)

- The 'OOPS' faction (Just wants to reverse Brexit and then return to the way things were)

- The remainers (They want to remain in the EU no matter the cost. Even if the UK has nothing to say they want to remain a part of it)

- The bring back Cameron faction (Not only do they want Brexit reversed they'd also like to see Cameron back as PM)
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Brexit pretty much fuck both Labor and the Tories, because they're both split pretty evenly between Remain and Leave supporters? Whatever position you take you're alienating a huge chunk of your supporters.

The Tories are more Leave and Labor's more Remain, but you're right that it cuts across party lines more than other issues.

May hasn't been able to get support for her deal, so her current strategy seems to be running out the clock until there's a crisis (either accept her deal or suffer a crash Brexit with no deal in place) and hope that her party's hardliners and/or Labour squishes will cave at the last second.

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The EU needs to revise the rules regarding leaving the bloc asap. It's completely ridiculous that one nation can practically hold the entire union hostage by declaring to leave at a predetermined date, and then unilaterally postpone the exit or even cancel it at will.
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The EU needs to revise the rules regarding leaving the bloc asap. It's completely ridiculous that one nation can practically hold the entire union hostage by declaring to leave at a predetermined date, and then unilaterally postpone the exit or even cancel it at will.

Don't take my word on this but the European Court of Justice did actually say you could do just that some months ago, against the opinion of the EU. Which indeed sounds ridiculous.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46481643

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The EU needs to revise the rules regarding leaving the bloc asap. It's completely ridiculous that one nation can practically hold the entire union hostage by declaring to leave at a predetermined date, and then unilaterally postpone the exit or even cancel it at will.

Don't take my word on this but the European Court of Justice did actually say you could do just that some months ago, against the opinion of the EU. Which indeed sounds ridiculous.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46481643

Yes I know, hence my post. They need to rectify this yesterday.
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They can delay three weeks, three months or three years, it won't solve anything. Leaving the EU is essentially impossible due to the Good Friday Agreement.

Either they put the border (to take back control) between Ireland and NI, or they put it between Ireland (as in the island) and GB. Neither of these two options will ever get support.


Also, lolz https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47373996



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I bet those Ulsters wish they hadn't been the deciding factor in the conservatives having a majority coalition.
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Environment minister George Eustice has quit the government over Theresa May's promise to allow MPs a vote on delaying Brexit, if her deal is rejected.

The MP said it would be "dangerous" to go to the EU "cap in hand at the 11th hour and beg for an extension".

He feared it could mean a long delay or that Brexit "may never happen at all" and said the UK must be prepared to walk away without a deal.

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The EU needs to revise the rules regarding leaving the bloc asap. It's completely ridiculous that one nation can practically hold the entire union hostage by declaring to leave at a predetermined date, and then unilaterally postpone the exit or even cancel it at will.

The eu can say no to an extension

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Demonstrations are still going on in Algeria in protest to President Bouteflika being sent forward for another term. Journalists especially (from private and public outlets) are in too and Djamila Bouhired (an historic militant for the FLN who took part in operations in Algiers) was spotted too.

Is it finally time for Algeria ?
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So the US went to the UN. I didn't work. Now Rubio and Pence have to persuade Trump to get the tanks rolling I guess?
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https://twitter.com/guyverhofstadt/status/1101432653881008128

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Macrons letter to Europeans in the Guardian

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Citizens of Europe, if I am taking the liberty of addressing you directly, it is not only in the name of the history and values that unite us, but because time is of the essence. A few weeks from now the European elections will be decisive for the future of our continent.

Never since the second world war has Europe been so essential. Yet never has Europe been in such danger. Brexit stands as the symbol of that. It symbolises the crisis of a Europe that has failed to respond to its peoples’ need for protection from the major shocks of the modern world. It also symbolises the European trap. The trap lies not in being part of the European Union; the trap is in the lie and the irresponsibility that can destroy it. Who told the British people the truth about their post-Brexit future? Who spoke to them about losing access to the EU market? Who mentioned the risks to peace in Ireland of restoring the border? Retreating into nationalism offers nothing; it is rejection without an alternative. And this is the trap that threatens the whole of Europe: the anger mongers, backed by fake news, promise anything and everything.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/04/europe-brexit-uk

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Good letter. But it's like a fart in the wind against decades of Murdoch media brainwashing.
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We can ship Macron to any EU country free of charge, win-win ?
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Doesnt seem as bad as many and I like the letter

At least he says the right things