Author Topic: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster (Read 1655894 times)

Nintex · « **Reply #6360 on:** July 03, 2019, 07:12:03 PM »

Trump drinks at least 12 diet cokes a day.

After his UN speech a while back he toasted with a diet coke.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #6361 on:** July 03, 2019, 07:17:02 PM »

Never trust a person who doesn't drink.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #6362 on:** July 03, 2019, 08:03:15 PM »

If Trump eats Lunchables at a diplomatic dinner then I might have to rethink my stance on him.

Raist · « **Reply #6363 on:** July 04, 2019, 12:27:01 PM »

Quote from: Raist on July 03, 2019, 07:39:42 AM

Today in "Brits behaving like a bunch of 5yo abroad".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48839829

New episode.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48869520

Raist · « **Reply #6364 on:** July 04, 2019, 12:36:11 PM »

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1146309908154978305

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VomKriege · « **Reply #6365 on:** July 04, 2019, 12:39:22 PM »

Yeah yeah nice, no appeasement, can you kindly fuck off now ? You said you were leaving 2 hours ago.

VomKriege · « **Reply #6366 on:** July 05, 2019, 08:47:38 AM »

Algerians still in the street (on the day celebrating the independence, no less) to get what they want. The presidential election was supposed to have been held yet for a painful lack of legitimacy of the few people the current institutions are willing to offer the citizens.

Raist · « **Reply #6367 on:** July 05, 2019, 12:39:33 PM »

Those trade deals are shaping up nicely.

Raist · « **Reply #6368 on:** July 05, 2019, 12:46:51 PM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-48881327

3 to 11 years?

Put those pieces of shit behind bars for 30y minimum, wtf.

Raist · « **Reply #6369 on:** July 05, 2019, 01:19:10 PM »

https://twitter.com/alanferrier/status/1146100784200867842

Nintex · « **Reply #6370 on:** July 05, 2019, 02:45:11 PM »

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1146992859159171072

Occam · « **Reply #6371 on:** July 05, 2019, 11:34:14 PM »

https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1147068717848829952

HardcoreRetro · « **Reply #6372 on:** July 06, 2019, 05:06:45 AM »

Quote from: Kara on July 01, 2019, 05:09:32 PM

Netherlands national rail finally paying restitution for being paid to transport people to Nazi death camps. Better late than never!

Unless most survivors and perpetrators are dead, I guess.

My dad has rights to it, but doesn't want to get money over his dad's dead body.

VomKriege · « **Reply #6373 on:** July 06, 2019, 05:27:03 AM »

I learned that Boris Johnson is the son of a British MEP and Euro public servant (among other activities) and lived briefly as a teen in Uccle. Fortune is one cheeky bitch.

Nintex · « **Reply #6374 on:** July 06, 2019, 05:33:08 AM »

https://twitter.com/lacey_butcher/status/1147251657698402304

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1147268923290767360

VomKriege · « **Reply #6375 on:** July 07, 2019, 10:51:06 AM »

I imagine Québec has laws similar to what we have in France (or have/had in Turkey) ?

Mollys Fruity Loops · « **Reply #6376 on:** July 07, 2019, 01:31:05 PM »

Tory members sent 'multiple ballots' for leadership vote

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Some Conservative members have reportedly been sent more than one ballot paper for the leadership election.

More than 1,000 people could have multiple forms in the contest between Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt, according to a BBC report citing a party source.

The broadcaster said those affected could include people who joined their local Conservative party at their home and work address or others who have changed their name.

Hunt’s campaign chairman, the former cabinet minister Sir Patrick McLoughlin, warned party members should only vote once even if they had received two ballot papers. “It’s made very clear on the ballot paper that you are only allowed to vote once. I expect Conservative members to follow that,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.

Hunt says he received 'Back Boris' campaign email without signing up
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McLoughlin acknowledged the error has “got to be looked at”, but added: “It can’t be clearer, it’s right there on the ballot paper saying that you must only vote on one occasion and I expect people to do that.”

Nintex · « **Reply #6377 on:** July 07, 2019, 01:34:38 PM »

Quote from: Mollys Fruity Loops on July 07, 2019, 01:31:05 PM

Tory members sent 'multiple ballots' for leadership vote

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Some Conservative members have reportedly been sent more than one ballot paper for the leadership election.

More than 1,000 people could have multiple forms in the contest between Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt, according to a BBC report citing a party source.

The broadcaster said those affected could include people who joined their local Conservative party at their home and work address or others who have changed their name.

Hunt’s campaign chairman, the former cabinet minister Sir Patrick McLoughlin, warned party members should only vote once even if they had received two ballot papers. “It’s made very clear on the ballot paper that you are only allowed to vote once. I expect Conservative members to follow that,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.

Hunt says he received 'Back Boris' campaign email without signing up
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McLoughlin acknowledged the error has “got to be looked at”, but added: “It can’t be clearer, it’s right there on the ballot paper saying that you must only vote on one occasion and I expect people to do that.”

It seems like Jeremy Hunt was the only Tory not informed that they needed a scapegoat for tanking Brexit

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #6378 on:** July 07, 2019, 02:57:47 PM »

Quote from: VomKriege on July 07, 2019, 10:51:06 AM

I imagine Québec has laws similar to what we have in France (or have/had in Turkey) ?

Yes

VomKriege · « **Reply #6379 on:** July 07, 2019, 03:00:31 PM »

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on July 07, 2019, 02:57:47 PM

Quote from: VomKriege on July 07, 2019, 10:51:06 AM
I imagine Québec has laws similar to what we have in France (or have/had in Turkey) ?
Yes

I know French style aggressive secularism confound a lot of people but it doesn't shock me.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #6380 on:** July 07, 2019, 03:10:32 PM »

My issue is that it seems like a law designed so people can tuck their crosses into their shirts while Muslims get targeted; I don't think its truly a secular motivated law.

Kara · « **Reply #6381 on:** July 07, 2019, 03:11:36 PM »

That's true.

Kara · « **Reply #6382 on:** July 07, 2019, 03:13:34 PM »

At least Québec can point to a time in living memory when their KKKulture was dominated by a very conservative Catholicism. La république outchea fronting when they ain't even got any Cult of Reason festivals on rotation.

VomKriege · « **Reply #6383 on:** July 07, 2019, 03:27:15 PM »

Some of the recent developments are clearly Muslim-related but Christians and Catholics in particular never were treated with kid's gloves on the matter. Public servants having to conform at work and citizens having to provide standardized ID photos without any garment or accessories for official identification (and the corollary of police being able to verify those) are fair to me. France allows for private, religious schools for those who can't back down from their faith to that extent.

The rest of the things like mayors banning "burkinis" or whatever is stupid and prejudiced. I don't like burkas but private citizens are allowed to wear them if they so choose. The problem is often vastly overblown when it get coverage.

Rufus · « **Reply #6384 on:** July 07, 2019, 03:41:14 PM »

France can point to strict secularity at least. In Germany you'll find plenty of crosses in classrooms.

Or in the case of Bavaria, an outright mandate to put one on every public building:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43892329

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Premier Markus Söder said crosses should not be seen as religious symbols but as a "clear avowal of our Bavarian identity and Christian values".

Kara · « **Reply #6385 on:** July 07, 2019, 03:58:49 PM »

Without Catholicism Bavaria would be *checks notes* the place that speaks silly German that has silly beer laws and a newspaper that functions as the only political opposition. The worst subnational BfV office too I guess.

VomKriege · « **Reply #6386 on:** July 07, 2019, 04:20:16 PM »

Quote from: Rufus on July 07, 2019, 03:41:14 PM

France can point to strict secularity at least. In Germany you'll find plenty of crosses in classrooms.

Or in the case of Bavaria, an outright mandate to put one on every public building:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43892329

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Premier Markus Söder said crosses should not be seen as religious symbols but as a "clear avowal of our Bavarian identity and Christian values".

There might be some exceptions in Alsace (clergymen for all Abrahamic denominations are still on public payroll AFAIK).

Edit : I didn't look deep into this but a couple of years ago, imams weren't included in the Alsace-Moselle Concordat dispositions. Some Mosques were financed by public funds in that region on its basis however.

team filler · « **Reply #6387 on:** July 07, 2019, 05:04:26 PM »

https://twitter.com/DavidKlion/status/1147884890110812160

Kara · « **Reply #6388 on:** July 08, 2019, 02:32:09 AM »

Quote from: Kara on July 07, 2019, 03:58:49 PM

Without Catholicism Bavaria would be *checks notes* the place that speaks silly German that has silly beer laws and a newspaper that functions as the only political opposition. The worst subnational BfV office too I guess.

TIL Carl Wurster received the Bavarian Order of Merit in 1955.

benjipwns · « **Reply #6389 on:** July 08, 2019, 02:43:19 AM »

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Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov explained why Vladimir Putin came to dinner in honor of the G20 leaders with a personal thermocup, Znak.com reports.

“He drinks tea from this thermos,” RIA Novosti quotes Peskov. What kind of tea does the Russian leader drink, his press secretary did not reveal.

benjipwns · « **Reply #6390 on:** July 08, 2019, 02:48:24 AM »

Actually, I think Putin is STRAIGHT EDGE like Trump isn't he?

Maybe they bonded over being germaphobes too. With TRUMP™ Hand Sanitizer.

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Nintex · « **Reply #6391 on:** July 08, 2019, 08:36:59 AM »

Diet coke and tea

Those guys are living it up

team filler · « **Reply #6392 on:** July 08, 2019, 01:52:54 PM »

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #6393 on:** July 08, 2019, 02:24:43 PM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48912063

hungrynoob · « **Reply #6394 on:** July 08, 2019, 07:11:19 PM »

There will be no ~~bombing~~ war w/Iran.
Same people who are fucking with NK are doing the same to Iran. Trump made history without war with NK it will be the same for Iran.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6395 on:** July 08, 2019, 08:22:45 PM »

Oh, is NK giving up their nukes now? I hadn't heard that yet.

hungrynoob · « **Reply #6396 on:** July 08, 2019, 08:53:44 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 08, 2019, 08:22:45 PM

Oh, is NK giving up their nukes now? I hadn't heard that yet.

KJU is at odds with bad actors in state. The purpose of the USA NK interaction is to flush them out, it is not an overnight operation.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6397 on:** July 08, 2019, 10:16:29 PM »

lmao okay

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #6398 on:** July 09, 2019, 01:38:32 PM »

https://twitter.com/isaby/status/1148536683035602945

BisMarckie · « **Reply #6399 on:** July 09, 2019, 01:42:21 PM »

Don't 👏 try 👏 to 👏 solve 👏 a 👏 complex 👏 issue 👏 with 👏 a 👏 yes/no 👏 referendum 👏 again.

Corbyn suddenly being a staunch defender of the European Union is pretty funny though.

Kara · « **Reply #6400 on:** July 09, 2019, 02:38:18 PM »

Sounds like he's listening to the mass line.

Nintex · « **Reply #6401 on:** July 09, 2019, 02:53:02 PM »

Quote from: shosta on July 08, 2019, 08:31:07 PM

I realized last night a little too late that Iran's best strategy right now is to provoke and march to war. If they continue to limp under the crippling sanctions regime, they'd be critically vulnerable, they risk social unrest, and they wouldn't be able to defend themselves or their interests in the region. They have to play hardball now and either make Trump or Europe blink in the face of the unacceptable costs of a major war in the middle east or do serious harm against their enemies in a bid to survive.

If they do nothing at all, that's a 100% chance of getting fucked into oblivion. If they escalate, there's a small (20%? 33%?) chance they can get some kind of deal back. Something that also contributes to this calculus is Trump revealing in Venezuela that he has no stomach for enforcing a red line or a concrete goal if it means real conflict. That weakens his hand significantly - maybe the Iranians wouldn't have been so emboldened otherwise.

Anyway, if those are your options, you might as well YOLO it. This is what happens when your leadership doesn't understand the incentives they're setting up. Then again, I also read some analysis that Pompeo and Bolton do expect a war to happen and are misleading Trump into thinking his brinkmanship will work. It's just fucked all around.

Iran is on its last legs anyway. The youngsters want Iran to join in with the rest of the world. Won't be long before student protests etc. break out again.
The regime isn't very popular anymore. The best bet for Iran is to meet up with Trump and give him his TV ad for the 2020 election.

Kim Jun Un is playing along with the show. The mullah's should as well. They just don't get it. All Trump wanted to do was make a new deal.

Nintex · « **Reply #6402 on:** July 09, 2019, 03:20:41 PM »

Anyone watching the Boris / Hunt debate?

Q "On the backstop (can you be specific?)":
- Hunt: "We will use 'technology' "
- Boris: "Everyone knows you can solve this away from the border [inaudible]"

Q: "Help my business is in danger":
- Hunt: "Here I have a 10 point printed plan"
- Boris: "I think that in public discourse the consequences of a no deal are exaggerated"

"Before we go to the break, please raise your hand if you're willing to tell the people we will leave the EU by October 31st"
*both raise hands*'

BORIS: "That's the SPIRIT JEREMY!! Could've fooled me!!!"

Mandark · « **Reply #6403 on:** July 09, 2019, 03:35:52 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on July 09, 2019, 02:53:02 PM

Iran is on its last legs anyway.

care to put a date on that?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #6404 on:** July 10, 2019, 12:43:29 AM »

Would you ask your 5 year old if you should quit your job?

Thats what Brexit feels like.

Raist · « **Reply #6405 on:** July 10, 2019, 08:34:13 AM »

Aaaand again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48938691

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel has been seen shaking for a third time in a month.

Video footage shows Mrs Merkel trembling, shaking back and forth alongside Finland's prime minister during a ceremony in Berlin. The trembling lasted over a minute.

After the incident, Mrs Merkel said she was "very well" and there was "no need to worry".

Nintex · « **Reply #6406 on:** July 10, 2019, 01:01:15 PM »

"We're going to negotiate a new Brexit deal!"

Deutsche Bank:

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Merkel:

BisMarckie · « **Reply #6407 on:** July 10, 2019, 01:11:34 PM »

You do know that there is a difference between Deutsche Bank and Deutsche Bundesbank, right?

If there was a party running on a platform of invading the Netherlands to cut their internet access, I would vote vor them.

Rufus · « **Reply #6408 on:** July 10, 2019, 01:14:39 PM »

FUDtex hears ya, but FUDtex don't care.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #6409 on:** July 10, 2019, 01:24:38 PM »

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48934781

Major: I will seek a judicial review to stop Parliament shutdown

Nintex · « **Reply #6410 on:** July 10, 2019, 01:27:17 PM »

Quote from: BisMarckie on July 10, 2019, 01:11:34 PM

You do know that there is a difference between Deutsche Bank and Deutsche Bundesbank, right?

If there was a party running on a platform of invading the Netherlands to cut their internet access, I would vote vor them.

Yes, I'm just summing up the international politics of the day.

Deutsche Bank is the polar opposite of the Bundesbank Sparpolitik.

VomKriege · « **Reply #6411 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:06:09 PM »

Quote from: Raist on July 10, 2019, 08:34:13 AM

Aaaand again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48938691

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel has been seen shaking for a third time in a month.

Video footage shows Mrs Merkel trembling, shaking back and forth alongside Finland's prime minister during a ceremony in Berlin. The trembling lasted over a minute.

After the incident, Mrs Merkel said she was "very well" and there was "no need to worry".

If it turns out to be something like an illness, can't wait for the conga line of journalists telling us they all knew for years but couldn't say because of raison d'État.

Kara · « **Reply #6412 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:08:09 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on July 09, 2019, 03:35:52 PM

Quote from: Nintex on July 09, 2019, 02:53:02 PM
Iran is on its last legs anyway.

care to put a date on that?

He predicted the world economy would plunge on Monday. Excited for how he answers this one!

Nintex · « **Reply #6413 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:17:09 PM »

I would say a significant political upheaval will materialize around 2024 or so if no outside actors take action.

Raist · « **Reply #6414 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:20:41 PM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48935351

I think we should follow this example

Nintex · « **Reply #6415 on:** July 10, 2019, 02:29:10 PM »

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Dutch children consistently rank among the happiest in the world, according to surveys by the UN children's fund Unicef.

Reasons behind this include less academic pressure in tests at an early age and an emphasis on play-based learning.

But of course the Green Marxists want Children BANNED from the streets and unhappy

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However, Noël Vergunst, a local Green councillor, has defended the decision.

"It's a difficult issue," he told councillors last week. "The noise standard was considerably exceeded, so we had to do something," he added.

Green communist marxism, not even once.

VomKriege · « **Reply #6416 on:** July 10, 2019, 03:08:46 PM »

VomKriege · « **Reply #6417 on:** July 10, 2019, 03:42:31 PM »

Four Javelin anti-tank missiles from the French inventory have been seized in one base of Marshall Haftar forces. French Ministry of Defense confirms they are genuine but claims they're non functional and were stocked pending destruction after being issued to a detachment of French soldiers doing intelligence. It is denied they were ever transferred to local forces.

It's not a secret that Haftar had a lot of contacts in France back before being in open defiance of his rivals.

Kara · « **Reply #6418 on:** July 10, 2019, 03:45:34 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on July 10, 2019, 02:17:09 PM

I would say a significant political upheaval will materialize around 2024 or so if no outside actors take action.

Sometime in 5 years unless something dramatic happens.

curly · « **Reply #6419 on:** July 10, 2019, 03:56:44 PM »

Dutch cowards

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