International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster

[benjipwns]

Two hid in special compartments behind the dashboard and a third was under a rear seat

This should satisfy any kinds of questions about what skills and abilities they have to offer their new country.

Immigration Status: Approved.

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[shosta]

I'm waiting for this Liu Xin interview on Fox Business News and right now Trish Reagan is speaking the most basic ass spanglish to Juan Guaido

edit: guaido is going too fast for the fbn translator

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1133887004591230981

New Elections in Israel.

[shosta]

Trish: "We're going to try our best not to talk over each other due to this satellite delay."
they immediately can't stop talking over each other over the 10 second satellite delay

Trish starts the conversation by incorrectly stating that Liu Xin is a member of the Chinese Communist Party

Liu talking about how she learned english from American teachers. Trish starts smiling wide with nationalist pride

Trish was going on this long thing about forced technology transfers and then ended it with "So, how would you define state capitalism?" Liu absolutely confused by the question Asks for clarification, Trish says "Well, you guys have a very interesting system of economics"

FBN only hires the best 

[shosta]

Nobody destroys anybody. It's not a debate or even a coherent discussion. Just like it always is with these WASP freedom types, they spend half the time having the most inane, basic level discussion defining words and trying to filter new information through their internalized propaganda paradigm because they're totally incapable of modeling the world in any way other than the fairy tales told to them by the ruling class. I almost made the joke last week that this was State Capitalism vs. Corporate Socialism but edited it out (I know, I know, I have commitment issues), but when she actually pulled out the fucking term and asked her point blank to define it, apropos of nothing, that was when I really knew that there were absolutely no standards whatsoever for hosting a show on Fox Business News.

[benjipwns]

I really knew that there were absolutely no standards whatsoever for hosting a show on Fox Business News.

Just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean they don't exist.

[benjipwns]

[benjipwns]

saw The Oreo White Case listed as one of the Chinese Stealing IP examples and said "no...it couldn't be"

but yep:

A California engineer has been found guilty of stealing DuPont's recipe for producing white pigment and selling it to a state-owned Chinese company. As Bloomberg News reports, a federal jury in San Francisco this week found consultant Martin Liew guilty of 22 counts of economic espionage, trade-secret theft, witness tampering, and making false statements. Liew, 56, was found guilty of selling the secrets to Pangang Group, a China-based company that is building a new plant to produce titanium dioxide — a white pigment used in a wide range of products, including paper, whitening chemicals, and Oreo filling.

Former DuPont engineer Robert Maegerle was also convicted Wednesday on similar charges, with prosecutors saying he helped obtain the Delaware-based company's secrets. Each man could now face at least 15 years in prison and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines, in what prosecutors said is the first federal jury conviction under the Economic Espionage Act of 1996. The US Justice Department has sought to crack down on China-related espionage cases in recent years, with the Obama administration claiming that Chinese spy agencies are targeting American telecommunication and technology industries.

"As today’s verdict demonstrates, foreign governments threaten our economic and national security by engaging in aggressive and determined efforts to steal US intellectual property," US attorney Melinda Haag said in a statement.

[shosta]

esch and I need to be forced into some kind of support group for people who hate watch things

[curly]

we need to stop doing interviews with the Chinese before they realize how dumb we are

[Nintex]

The Brotherhood of NOD vibes in that Fox News set are off the charts.

Anyhow, time to escalate this war and have Tucker do the next interview with the Chinese.
This diplomatic effort by the Trump Administration Fox News clearly ain't working.

[Nintex]

The only way the Tories can get out of this bind is to deliver Brexit. 
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1134207549249654786

[Momo]

Journalism.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-purge/north-korea-executes-envoys-in-a-purge-after-failed-summit-south-korean-newspaper-idUSKCN1T02PD

Headline - North Korea executes envoy in a purge after failed U.S. summit: media

Body -  Reuters was unable to independently confirm the report. Previously, some North Korean officials have reportedly been executed or purged only to reappear with a new title.


U.S. State Department officials said they had no information to confirm the report.


A spokeswoman at South Korea’s Unification Ministry declined to comment. An official at the presidential Blue House in Seoul said it was inappropriate to comment on an issue that should first be verified.


A diplomatic source told Reuters there were signs Kim Hyok Chol and other officials were punished for the breakdown of the summit, such as by being sent to a labor camp for reeducation, but there was no evidence they were executed.

[shosta]

China preparing an entity list of its own to retaliate against foreign firms 

[Joe Molotov]

I got a gay fevah and the only cure....is more cock.

[BisMarckie]

Hates Canada and denies his own homosexuality. Checking all the right boxes for the Bire voting bloc.

[Mr Gilhaney]

https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1134426820701544449

God I want to live in the Philippines again

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1134897907319132160

Are you ready for Prime Minister Farage. 

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https://twitter.com/mimosa_daddy/status/1134500566242091010

[curly]

https://twitter.com/Swamy39/status/1134356510253785089

[BIONIC]

https://twitter.com/Swamy39/status/1134356510253785089

https://twitter.com/bananapeppersx3/status/1134495449056985088

[Tripon]

Anime is literally hot.

Japan's heatwave in July 2018 could not have happened without climate change. The July 2018 heatwave, which killed 1,032 people, saw temperatures reach 41.1C (106F), the highest temperature ever recorded in the country. Penned by the Meteorological Society of Japan, the study is the first to establish that some aspects of the international heatwave could not have occurred in the absence of global warming.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/ed83b592-af4c-3563-a18c-8252094a44f3/japan%E2%80%99s-deadly-heatwave-would.html

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1135118137987223554

What do the tories think selling the NHS to Trump and frens would mean for their election chances. 

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1135118137987223554

What do the tories think selling the NHS to Trump and frens would mean for their election chances. 

I don't get how a domestic issue (NHS, healthcare) is going to be part of trade discussions. The U.S. going to argue that American health companies need to be able to compete in England somehow?

[VomKriege]

Any pretext to undermine it, even if it has no relevance to it, seems to be a major boner for Tories.

[Raist]

Can't wait for the US / healthcare version of this

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1135118137987223554

What do the tories think selling the NHS to Trump and frens would mean for their election chances. 

I don't get how a domestic issue (NHS, healthcare) is going to be part of trade discussions. The U.S. going to argue that American health companies need to be able to compete in England somehow?

Everything is going to be on the table. By the end of the "negotiations" the UK will have to buy a massive ammount of US military equipment, the royal family has to apologize to Trump, the Trump organization owns the Falklands and UK branches of US corporations pay 0 taxes. Oh and prescription drugs no longer provided by the EU will have to be bought from the US. 

[shosta]

UK branches of US corporations pay 0 taxes

Ah, so the Irish arrangement

[curly]

Journalism.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-purge/north-korea-executes-envoys-in-a-purge-after-failed-summit-south-korean-newspaper-idUSKCN1T02PD

Headline - North Korea executes envoy in a purge after failed U.S. summit: media

Body -  Reuters was unable to independently confirm the report. Previously, some North Korean officials have reportedly been executed or purged only to reappear with a new title.


U.S. State Department officials said they had no information to confirm the report.


A spokeswoman at South Korea’s Unification Ministry declined to comment. An official at the presidential Blue House in Seoul said it was inappropriate to comment on an issue that should first be verified.


A diplomatic source told Reuters there were signs Kim Hyok Chol and other officials were punished for the breakdown of the summit, such as by being sent to a labor camp for reeducation, but there was no evidence they were executed.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/north-korean-official-kim-yong-chol-reappears-after-purge-report-n1013011

[Momo]

Journalism.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-purge/north-korea-executes-envoys-in-a-purge-after-failed-summit-south-korean-newspaper-idUSKCN1T02PD

Headline - North Korea executes envoy in a purge after failed U.S. summit: media

Body -  Reuters was unable to independently confirm the report. Previously, some North Korean officials have reportedly been executed or purged only to reappear with a new title.


U.S. State Department officials said they had no information to confirm the report.


A spokeswoman at South Korea’s Unification Ministry declined to comment. An official at the presidential Blue House in Seoul said it was inappropriate to comment on an issue that should first be verified.


A diplomatic source told Reuters there were signs Kim Hyok Chol and other officials were punished for the breakdown of the summit, such as by being sent to a labor camp for reeducation, but there was no evidence they were executed.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/north-korean-official-kim-yong-chol-reappears-after-purge-report-n1013011

lmao, I actually kinda suspected this one to at least be eventually true

[Great Rumbler]

It's best to be skeptical of nearly every report that comes out of North Korea. Almost always it starts as a sketchy report in some South Korea newspaper with minimal, or none, backing, that gets picked up and then broadcast as 100% truth by western outlets.

On the other hand, it could be a body double that they trotted out, like Trump does with Melania.

[curly]

It's best to be skeptical of nearly every report that comes out of North Korea. Almost always it starts as a sketchy report in some South Korea newspaper with minimal, or none, backing, that gets picked up and then broadcast as 100% truth by western outlets.

On the other hand, it could be a body double that they trotted out, like Trump does with Melania.

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1135763951478853633

[Raist]

Jesus the queen talking about her first state visit to the US being in 1944 and meeting Eisenhower....then raising a toast to Donald J. Trump


RETIRE BITCH

[VomKriege]

The French Prime Minister is saying that the destruction of a variety of unsold but otherwise unused & non perishable products -notably clothes and sanitary towels- will be forbidden (through regulations probably). Retailers would have to donate or recycle those.

Also French arms exports still soaring, biggest clients being Gulf states / Near East / Middle East (and a deal with Belgium for armoured vehicles). But don't you worry, there's been plenty of verbal agreements that those are not used in places like Yemen or repression.

[Momo]

It's best to be skeptical of nearly every report that comes out of North Korea. Almost always it starts as a sketchy report in some South Korea newspaper with minimal, or none, backing, that gets picked up and then broadcast as 100% truth by western outlets.

On the other hand, it could be a body double that they trotted out, like Trump does with Melania.

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1135763951478853633

this stuff genuinely upsets me because it sets the tone for conversations at an already flawed baseline. It upsets me mostly when an entity like BBC does it as they have no financial pressure to be first yet they're constantly out there with bullshit.

[VomKriege]

It's not entirely true that the BBC is free from commercial pressure though, is it ? It's a bit of a soft target for politicians to push the same kind of narrative "need more efficiency" than on NHS or every public service they'd like to put in the chopping block. And like most public broadcasting I'm aware of in Europe, the main channels- are expected to "compete" with private networks (offering similar programming, etc...). But yeah, it's a shame and incredibly short sighted to squander what is arguably one of the most potent remaining British soft power card.

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[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1135918881107795974

The US makes a trade deal with the UK colorized 

[shosta]

they're going to really need the NHS once they're the sick man of europe again

[Nintex]

It appears Pierce called Kushner. 
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1136016905708482560

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Because Donald spoiled the plan

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[Great Rumbler]

It's obvious he had no idea what it even was.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1135918881107795974

The US makes a trade deal with the UK colorized 

This is sort of an amazing turn since Brexit was partially promised on protecting the NHS.

[shosta]

The Chinese president arrived on Wednesday and later gave a press conference where he said he had a "deep personal friendship" with his Russian counterpart.

"In the past six years, we have met nearly 30 times. Russia is the country that I have visited the most times, and President Putin is my best friend and colleague," Mr Xi said.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/BillNeelyNBC/status/1135864159046967296

[VomKriege]

The Fiat-Chrysler proposal to merge with Renault has been suspended probably indefinitely. French state representatives on the board asked for more delays, as the French Ministry of Economy wanted to have more talks with Nissan to pacify them (as the alliance would suddenly shift balance and make them a minority partner) and was looking for more guarantees to safeguard their prerogatives. The union representative in the board voted against the project while everyone else was in favour. This was too much for Fiat-Chrysler apparently.

After the drama over the naval yards in St Nazaire, it's another Franco-Italian venture project going down the drain because of the French state involvement being an hurdle. There's also the matter of the high speed railway connection between Lyon and Torino being blocked by Italian cabinet politics (Salvini is for, 5 Stelle against) or the spat between Vivendi and Mediaset. Apparently there's some disgruntlement in Italia over industrial and capital penetration only going one way with regards to France on top of political grudges of the same order (by the admission of some French politicians or diplomats, France has been negligent in condescending for a long time, only remembering Italy is a thing when they had issues with Germany).

[benjipwns]

the Danes just had an election, their eurosceptic anti-immigrant, etc. party got smashed hard from 21% and 37 seats to 9% and 16 seats... I think the center-right liberals gained the advantage but don't quote me on that, it'll be a broad coalition no matter what like usual

Sunday is the first presidential election in Kazakhstan without Nursultan Nazarbayev

Guatemala and Greece are up next, so many elections being moved into this year after it was looking so barren at the start

clearly trying to get things done before Beast Mode Trump next year /nintex

[jorma]

the Danes just had an election, their eurosceptic anti-immigrant, etc. party got smashed hard from 21% and 37 seats to 9% and 16 seats... I think the center-right liberals gained the advantage but don't quote me on that, it'll be a broad coalition no matter what like usual

No, the ruling center right liberals gained quite a bit, but they still lost the election because their right wing allies cratered, and the party leader turned in his resignation to the queen.
The social democrats (center left) will most likely form the next government. But as i understand it it's going to be tough, because the soc dems have promised to keep immigration at a minimum, but that's not gonna sit well with the supporting leftie parties needed to form a majority in the parliament.

[benjipwns]

I was going off the seat numbers, it didn't really seem like any set of "natural coalition" had an obvious path, maybe something with social dems in top positions but lots of liberals and their center-right allies across the cabinet. I'm not as familiar with Danish politics to know if that's a common thing as it can be in some neighbors.

[jorma]

I was going off the seat numbers, it didn't really seem like any set of "natural coalition" had an obvious path, maybe something with social dems in top positions but lots of liberals and their center-right allies across the cabinet. I'm not as familiar with Danish politics to know if that's a common thing as it can be in some neighbors.

The prospective PM has already ruled out a coalition with Venstre (which confusingly enough is the center right party). That doesn't mean it's not gonna happen obviously, but she's going to try to form a government with the left block first as i understand it. I don't really follow danish politics that closely either so i don't know how likely it is that she'll succeed.

[benjipwns]

oh, I had overlooked the Social Liberals completely by accident, that puts them over a majority after all

[Great Rumbler]

The Chinese president arrived on Wednesday and later gave a press conference where he said he had a "deep personal friendship" with his Russian counterpart.

"In the past six years, we have met nearly 30 times. Russia is the country that I have visited the most times, and President Putin is my best friend and colleague," Mr Xi said.

Friendship with Trump ended
Now Putin is my best friend

[Rufus]

Vote green. Got it. 👍

[Joe Molotov]

(Image removed from quote.)

oppai party

[Occam]

https://mobile.twitter.com/itvnews/status/1136610824762601473

(54% pro Brexit voters.)

[BisMarckie]

Brexit is just a convenient excuse for Ford to close down a plant.

The European Union and its free movement is just a way for capitalists to undermine collective bargaining agreements and other forms of organized labor.
Brexit can also be interpreted as the working class trying to escape from this race to the bottom.

It's probably easier though to follow the neolib narrative that people voted Brexit because of racism.

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playing devil's advocate,or am I?

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[Occam]

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playing devil's advocate,or am I?

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Or you forgot to take your brain medication today.

[BisMarckie]

Forum poster Occam unaware of stances and policies that Marxist-Leninist parties have argued for.

[Kara]

Forum poster Occam unaware of stances and policies that Marxist-Leninist parties have argued for.

[Kara]

is this the dialectic