Author Topic: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster (Read 1652394 times)

VomKriege · « **Reply #6660 on:** August 23, 2019, 05:12:46 PM »

Macron has apparently just said that France opposed to advancing on the currently discussed Mercosur - EU trade deal because Bolsonaro "lied" about Brazil's commitments to the Paris Treaty.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #6661 on:** August 24, 2019, 02:26:32 AM »

Boris cant get a better deal

The whole brexit talk should have started in the uk with them talking about how to solve the ireland issue lol

Now they are forever stuck between being in the eu/under our rules or splitting up the irelands

VomKriege · « **Reply #6662 on:** August 24, 2019, 02:27:00 AM »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-environment-deploment/brazils-bolsonaro-will-send-army-to-fight-amazon-fires-governor-idUSKCN1VD2HG

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #6663 on:** August 24, 2019, 02:30:02 AM »

Quote from: VomKriege on August 23, 2019, 05:12:46 PM

Macron has apparently just said that France opposed to advancing on the currently discussed Mercosur - EU trade deal because Bolsonaro "lied" about Brazil's commitments to the Paris Treaty.

Bolsenaro is an idiot but ill give him that its fucking ridiculous we talk so much about forests in Brazil when we cut down all our own

We need to start planting more here but I dont see people fighting for that...

Doesnt mean we should t pressure them but we cant rely on them gor our future. If a football field of forest burns every minute or is cut down we need to plant two a minute here on our lands.

Occam · « **Reply #6664 on:** August 24, 2019, 07:34:14 AM »

Absolutely. Europe needs to start planting trees, as does America.
And we ("we" as in "all of mankind") need to get a project underway to terraform (geoengineer) the Sahara Desert.

Nintex · « **Reply #6665 on:** August 24, 2019, 08:36:17 AM »

Quote from: Occam on August 24, 2019, 07:34:14 AM

Absolutely. Europe needs to start planting trees, as does America.
And we ("we" as in "all of mankind") need to get a project underway to terraform (geoengineer) the Sahara Desert.

Our country is actually launching such a plan. In fact, some projects are already underway.

Tripon · « **Reply #6666 on:** August 24, 2019, 10:41:41 AM »

https://twitter.com/bruce_croxon/status/1165271425709748224

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #6667 on:** August 24, 2019, 02:48:19 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on August 24, 2019, 08:36:17 AM

Quote from: Occam on August 24, 2019, 07:34:14 AM
Absolutely. Europe needs to start planting trees, as does America.
And we ("we" as in "all of mankind") need to get a project underway to terraform (geoengineer) the Sahara Desert.
Our country is actually launching such a plan. In fact, some projects are already underway.

because otherwise your country is drowning, despite evolving to be tall enough to breath while submerged

Nintex · « **Reply #6668 on:** August 24, 2019, 07:13:13 PM »

https://twitter.com/elisevonscheel/status/1165349376027443200

Rufus · « **Reply #6669 on:** August 24, 2019, 07:42:24 PM »

I'd say he's starting to strain believability, but Donald Trump exists, so...

team filler · « **Reply #6670 on:** August 24, 2019, 11:34:32 PM »

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1165369130842808320

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #6671 on:** August 24, 2019, 11:35:48 PM »

mimi>sarah,
k filler

team filler · « **Reply #6672 on:** August 25, 2019, 12:02:01 AM »

https://twitter.com/Ventuckyspaz/status/1165415609493946368

Nintex · « **Reply #6673 on:** August 25, 2019, 05:57:11 AM »

the left

[close]

VomKriege · « **Reply #6674 on:** August 25, 2019, 05:58:01 AM »

Stepbrothers 2 looks shit.

Raist · « **Reply #6675 on:** August 25, 2019, 07:41:07 AM »

Maybe they can serve them some rotten seafood

Nintex · « **Reply #6676 on:** August 25, 2019, 09:57:38 AM »

At the G7 Trump and Abe just reached a new trade agreement.
But the real photo-op this time is rumored to be a meeting between Trump and Zharif of Iran.

VomKriege · « **Reply #6677 on:** August 25, 2019, 11:22:16 AM »

Quote from: Nintex on August 25, 2019, 09:57:38 AM

At the G7 Trump and Abe just reached a new trade agreement.

"agree on principles of trade deal" according to Reuters, which is not exactly the same thing.

Nintex · « **Reply #6678 on:** August 25, 2019, 01:00:06 PM »

Quote from: VomKriege on August 25, 2019, 11:22:16 AM

Quote from: Nintex on August 25, 2019, 09:57:38 AM
At the G7 Trump and Abe just reached a new trade agreement.

"agree on principles of trade deal" according to Reuters, which is not exactly the same thing.

That was earlier. They actually made a deal.
However it needs to pass congress and everything of course but Trump says it's a done deal.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1165664682952163328

Tripon · « **Reply #6679 on:** August 25, 2019, 01:28:49 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on August 25, 2019, 01:00:06 PM

Quote from: VomKriege on August 25, 2019, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: Nintex on August 25, 2019, 09:57:38 AM
At the G7 Trump and Abe just reached a new trade agreement.

"agree on principles of trade deal" according to Reuters, which is not exactly the same thing.
That was earlier. They actually made a deal.
However it needs to pass congress and everything of course but Trump says it's a done deal.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1165664682952163328

According to that logic, TPP was a done deal.
USMCA aka NAFTA 2.0 is a done deal. Current era of congress sucks at actually looking at shit.

Mandark · « **Reply #6680 on:** August 25, 2019, 01:44:29 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on August 25, 2019, 01:00:06 PM

Quote from: VomKriege on August 25, 2019, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: Nintex on August 25, 2019, 09:57:38 AM
At the G7 Trump and Abe just reached a new trade agreement.

"agree on principles of trade deal" according to Reuters, which is not exactly the same thing.
That was earlier. They actually made a deal.
However it needs to pass congress and everything of course but Trump says it's a done deal.

nintex, what is the point of telling lies like this on a forum where nobody believes your shit?

VomKriege · « **Reply #6681 on:** August 25, 2019, 03:28:02 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on August 25, 2019, 01:00:06 PM

Quote from: VomKriege on August 25, 2019, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: Nintex on August 25, 2019, 09:57:38 AM
At the G7 Trump and Abe just reached a new trade agreement.

"agree on principles of trade deal" according to Reuters, which is not exactly the same thing.
That was earlier. They actually made a deal.
However it needs to pass congress and everything of course but Trump says it's a done deal.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1165664682952163328

Reuters story still reads as such : "BIARRITZ, France (Reuters) - The United States and Japan agreed in principle on Sunday to core elements of a trade deal that U.S. President Donald Trump and Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said they hoped to sign in New York next month."
The Guardian says “We still have some remaining work that has to be done at the working level, namely finalizing the wording of the trade agreement and also finalizing the content of the agreement itself,” [Abe] said, through an interpreter.

chronovore · « **Reply #6682 on:** August 26, 2019, 09:12:14 AM »

Quote from: VomKriege on August 25, 2019, 05:58:01 AM

Stepbrothers 2 looks shit.

:'(

Brehvolution · « **Reply #6683 on:** August 26, 2019, 10:27:25 AM »

Quote from: Nintex on August 25, 2019, 05:57:11 AM

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Nintex · « **Reply #6684 on:** August 26, 2019, 01:16:45 PM »

G7 pretty much wrapped up by now.
Macron did a good job hosting it this year. I don't suppose it'll help him much at home though.

Next year the G7 will be in Miami and Trump won't have to interrupt his golf weekend because he was quick to remind everyone his own golf resort in Florida is the best place to host the G7.

kingv · « **Reply #6685 on:** August 27, 2019, 10:01:57 AM »

Quote from: VomKriege on August 25, 2019, 03:28:02 PM

Quote from: Nintex on August 25, 2019, 01:00:06 PM
Quote from: VomKriege on August 25, 2019, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: Nintex on August 25, 2019, 09:57:38 AM
At the G7 Trump and Abe just reached a new trade agreement.

"agree on principles of trade deal" according to Reuters, which is not exactly the same thing.
That was earlier. They actually made a deal.
However it needs to pass congress and everything of course but Trump says it's a done deal.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1165664682952163328

Reuters story still reads as such : "BIARRITZ, France (Reuters) - The United States and Japan agreed in principle on Sunday to core elements of a trade deal that U.S. President Donald Trump and Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said they hoped to sign in New York next month."
The Guardian says “We still have some remaining work that has to be done at the working level, namely finalizing the wording of the trade agreement and also finalizing the content of the agreement itself,” [Abe] said, through an interpreter.

What other parts to a trade deal are there other than content and wording? 😂

Rufus · « **Reply #6686 on:** August 27, 2019, 12:05:35 PM »

Twitter likes, of course. The most important part.

Crash Dummy · « **Reply #6687 on:** August 28, 2019, 05:44:40 AM »

oh boris https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49493632

Raist · « **Reply #6688 on:** August 28, 2019, 07:08:41 AM »

Can't wait for the Queen to accept suspending Parliament so that the UK can FINALLY exit the undemocratic EUSSR

Raist · « **Reply #6689 on:** August 28, 2019, 08:07:01 AM »

Shots fired (Loiseau is an MEP and former french Minister for European Affairs).

https://twitter.com/adamfleming/status/1166660943314608130

VomKriege · « **Reply #6690 on:** August 28, 2019, 08:56:26 AM »

Raist is gonna be sent to the gallows

Raist · « **Reply #6691 on:** August 28, 2019, 09:47:00 AM »

I can get permanent residence rights whenever I want

Sorry to disappoint.

benjipwns · « **Reply #6692 on:** August 28, 2019, 09:59:03 AM »

time to suspend Parliament permanently, along with the rest of the state

VomKriege · « **Reply #6693 on:** August 28, 2019, 10:10:51 AM »

Quote from: Raist on August 28, 2019, 09:47:00 AM

I can get permanent residence rights whenever I want

Sorry to disappoint.

Are you planning to retire in the Sud-Ouest and vacation into Marbella too ?

Raist · « **Reply #6694 on:** August 28, 2019, 10:12:45 AM »

https://twitter.com/AngryScotland/status/1166712088640835585

Raist · « **Reply #6695 on:** August 28, 2019, 10:22:21 AM »

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Commons leader Jacob Rees-Mogg has been asked about the PM's move to suspend Parliament at Aberdeen Airport earlier today, after meeting the Queen.

He told the BBC that ministers are "certainly not" trying to avoid scrutiny from Parliament, and the suspension represented the “normal functioning of our constitution".

The decision to suspend Parliament ahead of a Queen’s Speech, he added, was a “completely proper constitutional procedure.”

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #6696 on:** August 28, 2019, 10:26:58 AM »

the UK is so messed up right now. Really enjoying it.

NekoFever · « **Reply #6697 on:** August 28, 2019, 10:44:02 AM »

Quote from: Raist on August 28, 2019, 10:22:21 AM

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Commons leader Jacob Rees-Mogg has been asked about the PM's move to suspend Parliament at Aberdeen Airport earlier today, after meeting the Queen.

He told the BBC that ministers are "certainly not" trying to avoid scrutiny from Parliament, and the suspension represented the “normal functioning of our constitution".

The decision to suspend Parliament ahead of a Queen’s Speech, he added, was a “completely proper constitutional procedure.”

It's normal to suspend Parliament ahead of a Queen's Speech, but in 2016 it was suspended for four days, not 23.

Raist · « **Reply #6698 on:** August 28, 2019, 10:46:20 AM »

Yes, it's "normal", and just so happens to take place for far longer than usual, at the worst possible time.

It's all just a coincidence.

Rufus · « **Reply #6699 on:** August 28, 2019, 10:47:10 AM »

Not to mention the timing.

edit: beat :'(

VomKriege · « **Reply #6700 on:** August 28, 2019, 11:05:57 AM »

Not to downplay anything but it's been pretty clear for weeks (if not months) that it was gonna end in a no-deal by virtue of time over. There was only so many delays the EU could grant to be squandered again and again.

I don't know what the future holds but bonne chance England (her specifically), you'll need it.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #6701 on:** August 28, 2019, 11:25:58 AM »

There are people on facebook that are saying the fires in Brazil are bullshit and any images the news is showing are years old.

While also saying that people should do their research.

WTF is wrong with people.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #6702 on:** August 28, 2019, 11:31:35 AM »

A B.C. man who posted photos of himself feeding Timbits and hot dogs to bears on social media has been fined $2,000 and ordered to stay 50 metres away from bears for six months.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/timbits-feed-bear-fine-crime-bc-1.5262221

BisMarckie · « **Reply #6703 on:** August 28, 2019, 12:13:08 PM »

So he was grooming them and didn’t even get to fuck them?

What a loser.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #6704 on:** August 28, 2019, 12:57:53 PM »

I guess the Irish are back to their terroristic ways and I didn't see the news

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/07/new-ira-claims-responsibility-for-car-bomb-attempt
https://www.france24.com/en/20190819-northern-ireland-bomb-police-terrorism-ira-fermanagh-nationalist

Nintex · « **Reply #6705 on:** August 28, 2019, 01:03:07 PM »

Guess Jeremy's master plan of hailing a cab to visit the palace in case Boris would suspend parliament did not work

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #6706 on:** August 28, 2019, 02:55:12 PM »

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on August 28, 2019, 11:31:35 AM

A B.C. man who posted photos of himself feeding Timbits and hot dogs to bears on social media has been fined $2,000 and ordered to stay 50 metres away from bears for six months.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/timbits-feed-bear-fine-crime-bc-1.5262221

Ain't no laws when you're feeding claws.

Akala · « **Reply #6707 on:** August 28, 2019, 03:07:07 PM »

Brexit

If EU doesn't cave at all I think things work out OK. If they cave in or appease this BS at all it's going to end in ruin.

Quote from: Madrun Badrun on August 28, 2019, 12:57:53 PM

I guess the Irish are back to their terroristic ways and I didn't see the news

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/07/new-ira-claims-responsibility-for-car-bomb-attempt
https://www.france24.com/en/20190819-northern-ireland-bomb-police-terrorism-ira-fermanagh-nationalist

This is really interesting to me, it keeps getting brought up where peace collapses, etc. but who in Northern Ireland really wants to go back to troubles era? Pretty sure the young don't, is it just the ~30% that voted against the GFA? And their children, I guess? Like who wants to return to that? Need to look into more.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #6708 on:** August 28, 2019, 03:31:29 PM »

I don't think the majority want to go back to violence but it only takes a few dead people for sides to start being formed and revenge attacks being justified; think the fact that it's so brittle a peace is what makes it scary.

VomKriege · « **Reply #6709 on:** August 28, 2019, 04:52:26 PM »

This week's Italian Cabinet is Lega free.

- It's true it's a difficult time for Italy, but it's also very exalting !
- Oh with you French people it's always about how Italian affairs are difficult but exalting.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #6710 on:** August 28, 2019, 04:53:09 PM »

I give this coalition about 8 weeks.

edit: Damn it, I missed your joke about it being this week‘s cabinet.

kingv · « **Reply #6711 on:** August 28, 2019, 05:54:57 PM »

I don’t think Brexits impact to the world economy has been priced into stocks at all.

Everyone thought they’d figure it out, but that looks very unlikely at this point.

Nintex · « **Reply #6712 on:** August 28, 2019, 05:59:03 PM »

Quote from: kingv on August 28, 2019, 05:54:57 PM

I don’t think Brexits impact to the world economy has been priced into stocks at all.

Everyone thought they’d figure it out, but that looks very unlikely at this point.

I don't think anyone knows what would happen when a no-deal Brexit happens.

There have been scenario's and such but a EU member state has never left the block.
The biggest fear with Brexit was that it would act as a catalyst for more members leaving such as Italy.
But the English bungled it to a point that they torpedoed the 'leaving EU' plans in Italy, The Netherlands and elsewhere.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #6713 on:** August 28, 2019, 06:03:14 PM »

The Netherlands leaving would be pretty hilarious though.

Please do it

Nintex · « **Reply #6714 on:** August 28, 2019, 06:08:05 PM »

Quote from: BisMarckie on August 28, 2019, 06:03:14 PM

The Netherlands leaving would be pretty hilarious though.

Please do it

I don't see it happening unless Brexit goes better than expected.

In fact with the way things our now with the opposition we'll probably have two or even three more Rutte governments.

Raist · « **Reply #6715 on:** August 29, 2019, 04:27:43 AM »

That's a pretty good summary.

Still confused? So is everyone here.

Propagandhim · « **Reply #6716 on:** August 29, 2019, 06:34:23 AM »

Quote from: VomKriege on August 28, 2019, 04:52:26 PM

This week's Italian Cabinet is Lega free.

- It's true it's a difficult time for Italy, but it's also very exalting !
- Oh with you French people it's always about how Italian affairs are difficult but exalting.

Thank God. People are desperate for some stability and investor confidence. The yield on 10Y Italian BTP has dropped below 1% for the first time ever - the country is seemingly always in a political crisis, but these are especially bad macro figures for Italy. The demographic crisis is scaring the shit out of everyone, but Salvini is not doing any favors for anyone.

Raist · « **Reply #6717 on:** August 29, 2019, 09:11:52 AM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49509275

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Ruth Davidson has quit as leader of the Scottish Conservatives after eight years in the job.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #6718 on:** August 29, 2019, 09:51:19 AM »

Quote from: shosta on August 29, 2019, 04:02:04 AM

I like how long these are getting

kingv · « **Reply #6719 on:** August 29, 2019, 10:39:28 AM »

The real chart is “Britain is going to crash out in a month and will officially be in a recession end of Q4 2019”

Then the rest of the EU probably in a recession within 6 months.

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