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Lucretius

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FFXIV has outstanding writing. I wish it wasn't hidden behind a paywall.

an FFXIV LP with good commentators would be really great. Anyone got any recommendations?

Best money I've spent in gaming in years.  The game is so fun especially now that I have a good guild.
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The musclemen and cross dressing humor is alive and well in FFXIV.   On more than one quest you have to massage either Hildebrand or his muscled, underwear-clad dad with oil and the writing is appropriately awkward and hilarious. Another quest has Hildibrand conducting an investigation undercover at a wedding... as the bride!
The tone is ridiculous and slapstick;not homophobic.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2014, 02:26:48 PM by Lucretius »
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i cant believe you are discussing homophobia in final fantasy. i wish i could leave this hobby. where do i resign.
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It's not really a taboo subject considering the series has had, well, no positive portrayals of gay characters and Japan is known for being outrageously homophobic.

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yea it was a huge deal when they came out
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Himu

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It's not really a taboo subject considering the series has had, well, no positive portrayals of gay characters and Japan is known for being outrageously homophobic.

Fang and Vanille.
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i cant believe you are discussing homophobia in final fantasy. i wish i could leave this hobby. where do i resign.

I can't wait to discuss final fantasy and bestiality when i finaly get red :phil
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Himu

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Fucking red xiii and aerith mating like rabbits man
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Himu

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This fucking game is hilarious

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The Hildibrand quests in FFXIV ARR are probably the funniest things I've ever seen in a FF game. And new ones keep coming with every major patch. If you're not going to play FFXIV then YouTube the Hildibrand cutscenes.


I really hope Hildebrand becomes a recurring character in future FF games kind if like Cid and Gilgamesh.

everything about this video is :what :what :what in the most japanese way possible
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Himu

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I still think the character interaction in FF8 is probably the thing that illicit the most laughs from me. The part where they get on the Timber Owl's train for the mission and they're introducing each other, and Zone puts his hand out to shake Squall's, and Squall just STANDS there. So he's like, whatever man, and shakes Selphie's hand. And then Zell spits on his hand, thrusts it out to be shaken, and he's completely ignored, and goes to cry in the corner gets me every fucking time.
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The Hildibrand quests in FFXIV ARR are probably the funniest things I've ever seen in a FF game. And new ones keep coming with every major patch. If you're not going to play FFXIV then YouTube the Hildibrand cutscenes.


I really hope Hildebrand becomes a recurring character in future FF games kind if like Cid and Gilgamesh.

everything about this video is :what :what :what in the most japanese way possible

i'm not sure how i missed this video because it's clearly the greatest FF related thing i've seen in a while :rejoice

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why gilgamesh has a green chicken with him?
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« Last Edit: July 16, 2014, 04:49:23 PM by magus »
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ZephyrFate

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It's not really a taboo subject considering the series has had, well, no positive portrayals of gay characters and Japan is known for being outrageously homophobic.

Fang and Vanille.
Eh, I guess. A bit too understated and seemed to fly over a lot of gamers' heads, though.

Himu

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I also can think of a lot of Japanese media, including anime and manga, that feature bisexual or gay characters. Even in stories aimed at children and young teens. The kicker is that they always treat the characters as normal, and aren't defined by the sexuality. I don't think Japan is getting enough credit here.
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FFXIV really is where all the humor in the series got dumped to after being sucked dry out of the XIII trilogy. Hildibrand's already been mentioned, but in general a lot of the quests have really solid and funny writing. It also has one of the most incredibly fucked up stories in the whole series via a white mage NPC introduced in the story: Edda

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Early in the main story, the player meets this band of newbie adventurers heading into a dungeon, one of them being Edda and her fiance Avere. You meet them again shortly after, only Avere is missing. You learn that an accident happened in the dungeon where, due to Edda's inexperience, Avere passed away. The group's black mage and archer leave her behind as a result, but not before mentioning how creeped out he was that Edda actually kept Avere's head with him.

Edda meets you face to face a bit later, remarking that she and her fiancee always looked up to you. She takes this meeting as a chance to "start over" and continue her training. She still has his head.

As time passes, Edda slowly starts going nuts. She travels all of Eorzea with Avere's head, talking to it as if it was alive, and slowly comes up with a plan to bring him back to life. She sends out wedding invitations to the archer and black mage, the latter of which is whom tells you about the whole ordeal. The archer dies earlier in the game in an unrelated story point, so you go visit her grave with the black mage only to find that the grave's been dug up. Fearing the worst, you go into the location of the "wedding", which is the same dungeon where Avere originally died.

Inside the dungeons are ripped scraps that chronicle all Edda went through to set up the ritual and her descent into madness. Blood is seen scribbled along the walls, often times in just long strings of Averre's name. The first boss found in the dungeon is a the reanimated corpse of the archer whose grave had been dug up. At the end, you fight against both Edda and Avere, whose been brought back to life as an incredibly creepy Ahriman. Upon defeat, Edda slowly backs away from you to the edge of the circular arena, which is covered in lit candles. One of them lights her robe on fire, and she falls off the edge while the flame spreads over her, a smile on her face the whole time.

After clearing the dungeon, you talk to the black mage outside whose lamenting that this all happened. He sees something out of the corner of his eye, and is freaked out and runs away.

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Himu

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Holy shit I have to play FFXIV haha
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The Hildibrand quests in FFXIV ARR are probably the funniest things I've ever seen in a FF game. And new ones keep coming with every major patch. If you're not going to play FFXIV then YouTube the Hildibrand cutscenes.


I really hope Hildebrand becomes a recurring character in future FF games kind if like Cid and Gilgamesh.

everything about this video is :what :what :what in the most japanese way possible

i'm not sure how i missed this video because it's clearly the greatest FF related thing i've seen in a while :rejoice

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why gilgamesh has a green chicken with him?
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in the quest he says he couldn't find his companion Enkidu (usually depicted in the FF games as a giant green winged demon).  so Gilgamesh tells you that he bought a chicken and painted it green and called him Enkidu because he was lonely.
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Holy shit I have to play FFXIV haha

Yes, you do.  It's so good.  I'm on the Brynhildr server as Titus Lucretius.  Look me up if you ever decide to play.  It's so good.  I'm in a great Free Company (guild) that is super helpful to new players.
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nachobro

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XIV is a great game! My favorite MMO out there and the best FF game in a while.

Lucretius

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XIV is a great game! My favorite MMO out there and the best FF game in a while.

what he said.
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demi

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If it was so great, maybe they should release a single player version instead.
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Lucretius

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You can solo the whole main story. Just use Duty Finder for the dungeon and the game will automatically put you in a team which will disband after you beat the dungeon boss. And you can easily play through the main story on under a month.
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I found FFXIV boring and bland.  Even Korean MMO's with their broken controls are more interesting to me.
« Last Edit: July 17, 2014, 12:28:08 PM by Damian79 »

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« Last Edit: July 17, 2014, 01:39:12 PM by magus »
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o no guys a cellphone game this is horrible do you think squaresoft will ever make another real final fantasy game i dont
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Himu

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:hyper omg :hyper :gladbron

2d Rinoa!!!!!!!!!!!
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might as well just merge this thread with the phone gaming one

Himu

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2d Rinoa! :uguu
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heroes obsessed with poking animals in the ass

Wait, what FF was this again?
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magus

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again magoose, that's not a square-enix developed thing, it's just another product of their licensing of the ff brand to Mobage.

don't care, too busy dancing on final fantasy grave



"i'm a mag-mag-magoose man
doing only what a magoose can
from the grave of final fan
mag-mag-magoose man"
« Last Edit: July 17, 2014, 08:12:37 PM by magus »
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Himu

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Why can't you appreciate the small things in life like 2d Rinoa?!

Rinoa :heartbeat
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Himu

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I've put atb out of my mind and haven't played the other one yet
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magus

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I've put atb out of my mind and haven't played the other one yet

the other one doesn't have an american version because square-enix has decided to bring only the bad final fantasy mobile game to spite final fantasy fans

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i guess pictologica is also pretty bad? oscar? you own a japanese cellphone! you should know!
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I don't know about it being a great game, but 14 is alright. I wouldn't call it bland. Well the missions are pretty bland. Almost the definition of MMO blandness. The game is also an extreme grind.

But it has certain charms. While the quests scenario's are pretty weak, the story is pretty solid and at times feels like an actual FF game. While the actual character progression is really linear it is fun to switch jobs and roles. The synergy between jobs in parties also works really well. Dungeons themselves are really fun. I'd say they are pretty well designed. Compared to WoW(I've only played TOR, GW2, and years of WoW) the dungeons are pretty well paced. Not too long and not filled with too much trash. The bosses though are where the game really shines. After say the first two dungeons they become a bit more than tank and spank, having a bit more going on. They just feel like very lively boss battles. Doesn't hurt that they can look pretty awesome.

The game's got pretty strong art design in general. Strong writing that may make you care about the quests a bit. Cool boss battles and nice party mechanics. It's a pretty typical mmo gamewise, but the stylings may go far for some people.

My character:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Rahxephon91/ffxiv_07172014_200810_zpsc06b5568.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Rahxephon91/ffxiv_07172014_200818_zps16d5a10b.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Rahxephon91/ffxiv_07172014_200840_zps98f7b930.png
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Rahxephon91/ffxiv_07172014_201114_zpsa8aa4d30.png

This is my 2nd go around with the game as well.

ZephyrFate

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:hyper omg :hyper :gladbron

2d Rinoa!!!!!!!!!!!
you missed a lot of 2D everything by not playing All The Bravest.

nachobro

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The grind in 14 is seriously distinguished mentally-challenged. I'm working on my second 50 job and with no quests to do it kinda sucks.

Himu

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why would i play all the bravest tho
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Positive Touch

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atb sucks complete ass, even as a ftp. not even good for a nostalgia treadmill
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Yeah, Pictlogica was a really easy version of Picross.  Super-boring, and not worth it.  I didn't even progress far in it, and I ended up beating All the Bravest of all things (but didn't get the collectibles because I can put that time towards other things). 

ATB has flavour-text and character/enemy sprites, but that's pretty much it.

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ATB is the nicest looking nicest sounding screensaver I've got on iOS. I don't get why they actively put in effort to make the FF ports look so much worse when ATB was sitting right there as the model for how to do 2D right.

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So what is Record Keeper? ATB2? Dunno why yall crying. Theres PLENTY OF SQUARE ENIX GAMES THAT ARENT FREE TO PLAY CRAP available.
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The only person crying is magus.
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Raban

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I've been craving some FF8 lately so I had my friend mail me my PSP. Been listening to the soundtrack in hot anticipation :hyper GFs :rejoice Junctioning :lawd Squall :heartbeat

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After watching some speedrun strats for FF8, it almost makes the game playable for me. I would like to try again and use the strats sometime
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What kinda strats? Got a video link?

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The only person crying is magus.

nah, i honestly don't care, i just like playing the doomsayer :lol

"HEAR YE, HEAR YE! FINAL FANTASY IS DEED!"

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So what is Record Keeper? ATB2? Dunno why yall crying. Theres PLENTY OF SQUARE ENIX GAMES THAT ARENT FREE TO PLAY CRAP available.

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/07/17/final-fantasys-greatest-battles-remixed-final-fantasy-record-keeper/

i'm not sure on the plenty of square-enix games that aren't crap bits though :kobeyuck

in other news...

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Square Enix sends cease and desist letter to Final Fantasy Type-0 translation group

Type-0 translation patch unavailable?

You know I normally use blog posts for relevant information only, such as project announcements or releases. However, I’m sorry this time it’ll be a little bit different:

Unfortunately I’m forced to remove my posts and pages related to the popular Final Fantasy Type-0 fan translation project. That’s right, certain game company thinks that threats and false accusations are the way to treat its biggest fans. For the time being I can’t answer questions related to this matter, but I’ll write a more comprehensive post about all this once I get the chance.

I hope you understand, and as always I appreciate your support (that I might need more that ever in the near future). Thank you very much:

~Sky

is there a reason for doing this at this point? anybody that cared has already played the game and the fantranslation has already reached the web, at this point i'm not sure they have anything to gain from this other than bad PR
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demi

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Well you're a jaded shitcase sometimes, magus. The library available on iOS is plenty fine.
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What kinda strats? Got a video link?

Refine Fish Fin for Water -> Junction for good stats

Get zell card from zell's mom -> Refine to STR+60%

Get Quistis Card from cafeteria bitch after Exam -> Refine to 3 Samantha Soul -> 3 x 60 Triples = Junction that shit
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Well you're a jaded shitcase sometimes, magus.

sometimes? :lol

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The library available on iOS is plenty fine.

well the library on android kinda sucks

https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=SQUARE%20ENIX%20Co.%2CLtd.&hl=it

is there any ios square-enix game that isn't on android too? i guess that dragon rider game i seems to remember reading about forever ago? heck was that even a square-enix game?
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Himu

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Ah.

Demi has been introduced to breaking FF8.

You can buy some tents at Balamb, turn those into curagas, put on your health, and bam. Do this within two hours of play too.
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I dont see Secret of Mana listed there or Tactics
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Himu

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Tips for Raban:

To draw more magic at maximum number more regularly, equip to good magic to your magic stat. The higher the magic stat, the more you draw per turn. You'll be filling up on magic in just minutes that way.

If you are not big on drawing, you can turn items into magic, or cards into items and into magic. You can break the game within twenty minutes by just having quetz and shiva set to learn ice-mg-refine and thunder-mg-rf. rf means refine. After you beat Ifrit, you'll more than likely have learned those skills. Then to to the beach, fight the fish, get fish fins which you use ice-mag-rf to turn into water. When you get Siren, learn her refine skill and buy every day shit like tents and turn those into curagas or making Double magic from some loot drops.

You could have a Card low level play through where you card enemies and and stay low level. And then challenge fuckers to triple triad every town and build an ultimate deck.

You could play it like it a traditional rpg, leveling up along the way. It'll make things more interesting, for sure. But you need to keep your junctions up.

Lots of options. Easy to break, but easy to do a normal play through.
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One of my fave things to do in ff8 is to do a normal play through. No breaking. While giving each character a defined class role. Gosh I haven't played that game in years. I'll have to play it after V.

Gosh I wish SE would release a revamped FF8. I have all these ideas on how they could perfect the gameplay. :noah FFX-2 ATB. :noah Make items more expensive so the game isn't as breakable. :noah Buy basic magic in shops so you don't have to draw. :noah A class system that blocks what you can and can't junction :noah Each character comes with their own unique ability ala FFVI. :noah FFX international-esque rebalancing. :lawd Limit breaks aren't as easily obtainable. :bow

Positive Touch you and I need to come up with ideas to make a PC mod for ultimate FF8. :lawd
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ZephyrFate

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Step missing: Make the plot less absolute dumpster fire dog shit garbage.

Himu

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:yeshrug

Don't care.
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nachobro

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oo xiv is free this weekend. guess that gives me something to do :D

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One of my fave things to do in ff8 is to do a normal play through. No breaking. While giving each character a defined class role. Gosh I haven't played that game in years. I'll have to play it after V.

Gosh I wish SE would release a revamped FF8. I have all these ideas on how they could perfect the gameplay. :noah FFX-2 ATB. :noah Make items more expensive so the game isn't as breakable. :noah Buy basic magic in shops so you don't have to draw. :noah A class system that blocks what you can and can't junction :noah Each character comes with their own unique ability ala FFVI. :noah FFX international-esque rebalancing. :lawd Limit breaks aren't as easily obtainable. :bow

Positive Touch you and I need to come up with ideas to make a PC mod for ultimate FF8. :lawd

all those ideas sound great! i never thought much about what i'd want in a revamped game because 1)the game as it is is pretty varied, and 2)any remake would strip out a lot of what i like because thats what most people hate.

i just want better balancing (less hp but more atk for the enemies; no xp bonus for who gets the last kill, limits on using super abilities like revive), and a better distribution of rules for the cards.

i know zephyr was trolling, but honestly i think the worldbuilding is really weak in the game. i'd love to see more towns and dungeons included, but this's about as likely to get remade as the adventures of huck finn is
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The reason (and what they gain) is to assert their control of the property.  That's typically not necessary for fan translations but I guess they felt otherwise here.

i of course love fan translations, but it's stupidly naive of translators to think they're doing the company a favor. "hey look, now all the fans can play this game thanks to my hard work!" no, you just made a company's product available for free; they don't really appreciate that. fans don't help a company's bottom line; consumers do.
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