Author Topic: THE FOOTBALL/SOCCER THREAD (Read 224896 times)

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #600 on:** August 28, 2014, 06:56:50 AM »

Fuck Costa

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #601 on:** August 28, 2014, 10:46:33 AM »

Uhm isnt the draw in an hour?

Anyhoo Esch, check out Ajax groups from the last 4 years, I ain't even mad though

Fifstar · « **Reply #602 on:** August 28, 2014, 12:00:40 PM »

German forums are going crazy over Bayern signing Xabi Alonso. I don't get it either, Dortmund destroyed Real 1,5 years ago by focusing on Alonso. Espanyol Munich is here.

Fifstar · « **Reply #603 on:** August 28, 2014, 12:06:59 PM »

Seriously? That's too much for our forums

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #604 on:** August 28, 2014, 12:16:20 PM »

Kagawho

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #605 on:** August 28, 2014, 12:29:57 PM »

Barcelona
PSG
Ajax

Fuck us again :dead

Shit is getting ridiculous :(

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #606 on:** August 28, 2014, 12:31:30 PM »

Why cant we catch one goddamn break

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #607 on:** August 28, 2014, 01:09:56 PM »

Why didnt we get G or H $:-\$

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #608 on:** August 28, 2014, 01:17:31 PM »

because you already trolled the world once by convincing everyone Van Gaal was a good manager

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #609 on:** August 28, 2014, 04:30:52 PM »

Such a weak troll, uk never had a manager as good as van gaal

Fifstar · « **Reply #610 on:** August 28, 2014, 06:01:22 PM »

Looks okay for the german teams. Group E is probably the strongest but Bayern should be good enough to proceed anyway. Group seems easier than Dortmunds group last year as I don't believe Anderlecht or Galatasaray are as good as Napoli. Schalke and Leverkusen are both 50:50 for reaching the round of 16 in my opinion.

Predictions

A

Juve
Athletico

B

Real Madrid
Liverpool

C

Benfica
Leverkusen

D

Dortmund
Arsenal

E

Munich
City

F

Barca
Paris

G

Chelsea
Schalke

H

Porto
Bilbao

Conservative tips. Only C, G and H look like they could pan out differently.

Kara · « **Reply #611 on:** August 28, 2014, 09:49:36 PM »

Like Athletic's chances in that group.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #612 on:** August 29, 2014, 01:03:53 AM »

I think we can beat psg, we beat barca, city, man u in previous years.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #613 on:** August 29, 2014, 01:12:16 AM »

Plus Zlatan and Suarez wont score against their former club.

*dreams*

Psg can have a tough time if Ibra isnt playing

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #614 on:** August 29, 2014, 03:04:43 AM »

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Such a weak troll, uk never had a manager as good as van gaal

yup - ignoring Ferguson, Robson, Dalglish, Paisley, Clough, Stien, Shankley ... oh wait....

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #615 on:** August 29, 2014, 03:11:09 AM »

Please

Van Gaal won the CL with two different clubs, the league in 3 different countries (with different teams even) AND got to the semis at the world cup.

Only one on that list with something close to him is Fergie, but he has had a 10+ year longer career. Never coached national either.

You're a good man, but this is a typical case of the English thinking they are better then they are, like with the national side

Kara · « **Reply #616 on:** August 29, 2014, 03:18:30 AM »

Fergie getting destroyed by Barca twice in the CL final.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #617 on:** August 29, 2014, 03:44:05 AM »

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Please

Van Gaal won the CL with two different clubs, the league in 3 different countries (with different teams even) AND got to the semis at the world cup.

Only one on that list with something close to him is Fergie, but he has had a 10+ year longer career. Never coached national either.

You're a good man, but this is a typical case of the English thinking they are better then they are, like with the national side

different managers from different eras wiht different teams and circumstances - trying to make out that none of them are in LVG range is bullshit.

Also - i assume you mean by "uk never had a manager as good as van gaal" that no domestic produced manager - because clearly you'd be overlooking Mourinho

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #618 on:** August 29, 2014, 03:48:35 AM »

Yeah I mean domestic, maybe I should have said England instead of UK

Anyhoo DC don't get worked up, Methodis is a city loser trying to troll.

I don't think LvG is a god or anything but he is one of the best. Where Man U is now is Fergie's fault mostly.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #619 on:** August 29, 2014, 04:04:59 AM »

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Yeah I mean domestic, maybe I should have said England instead of UK

well, yes, then you remove two massive heavy weights in Ferguson and Paisley

England you'd be left with Robson who , again, oversaw the whole idea of bringing DUTCH players into the English league - which i'd have thought you'd have been a fan of

Plus had success in multiple leagues, europe etc

and Clough i guess - but despite back to back european success his resume of trophies doesn't stack up too well to LVG, then again - Clough managed most his success, again, in a different era with teams that weren't heavy weights of their league.

p.s. i'm not angry at all, it's not even that i think LVG is a bad manager because he clearly isn't - it's just this idea that he's better than a slew of managers is off mark. Tis all.

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Where Man U is now is Fergie's fault mostly.

oh entirely - his transition was a complete disaster.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #620 on:** August 29, 2014, 05:28:27 AM »

Sorry for my douchy attitude, I was trying to spite Methodis.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #621 on:** August 29, 2014, 10:02:44 AM »

i don&t think you were being douche-y at all, please carry on

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #622 on:** August 29, 2014, 05:05:50 PM »

Milan is gonna continue to suck balls confirmed

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #623 on:** August 29, 2014, 08:16:02 PM »

Van Gaal was found out once in Spain, he's on track for being ofund out again in England.

headwalk · « **Reply #624 on:** August 29, 2014, 08:30:55 PM »

alex song huh? quite a nice little collection of DMs we've got now.

what was that united/arsenal? no, you can't have any.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #625 on:** August 30, 2014, 04:49:22 AM »

Noooo Blind

118 million in the green now, cant we just buy one semi decent player to compete in Europe?

Fifstar · « **Reply #626 on:** August 30, 2014, 07:55:39 AM »

So Kagawa back in Dortmund and Gündogan is training with the ball for the first time in 10 months. If those two get in shape/form again Dortmund has a extremly talented, deep and versatile midfield together with Reus and Micky. Although I guess one reason they bought Kagawa is because Reus will leave next season.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #627 on:** August 30, 2014, 09:19:01 AM »

I hope Dortmund can challenge Bayern but...

Watching Man U, what a poor poor squad it is now. Only bright light was Di Maria.

Fifstar · « **Reply #628 on:** August 30, 2014, 09:26:40 AM »

Dortmund has a lot of depth now but they lack 2-3 top players to really challenge Bayern in the Bundesliga. I'm also not convinced that Immobile can replace Lewandowski. I mean Lewandowski is so good that nobody in the price range below 50 Million can replace him but with Immobile I don't get the feeling he can score at a top club like he could at a small club where he was the lone center of attack.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #629 on:** August 30, 2014, 11:36:26 AM »

I dont mind not getting points if city loses

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #630 on:** August 30, 2014, 11:53:51 AM »

Haha city , found out

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #631 on:** August 30, 2014, 12:53:39 PM »

Hes playing?

Cant believe Bony didnt score, or jovetic

bud · « **Reply #632 on:** August 30, 2014, 03:31:07 PM »

a part of me dies every time fabregas makes an assist.

headwalk · « **Reply #633 on:** August 30, 2014, 03:36:04 PM »

i accidentally dropped some optimism in this thread here, apologies for that.

but hey, at least united are still shit and we got song for a song.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #634 on:** August 31, 2014, 02:51:39 AM »

FFS - i knew he was going to be playing after the whole "he's out" and i -still- forgot to put Costa back in - 12 points thrown away, great!

Re: player on most cash doing least - you know, Rooney runs a lot and covers a lot of ground - but 300k a week for that? Piss take total.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #635 on:** August 31, 2014, 07:22:46 AM »

Wheres Methodis at

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #636 on:** August 31, 2014, 08:09:40 AM »

He had to be rushed to hospital - he'd been complaining of headaches or something - turns out he's had a stroke.

.... no wait, let me re-read that again.

Oh - his TEAM has been had -by- Stoke.

Close!

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #637 on:** August 31, 2014, 08:50:54 AM »

Man, Shitty thing to say

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #638 on:** August 31, 2014, 08:52:42 AM »

Meh-tihad

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #639 on:** August 31, 2014, 10:57:23 AM »

stoke are a good team ti's not embarrasing to lose to them

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #640 on:** August 31, 2014, 10:58:31 AM »

its not like we lost to groningen and drew to derby

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #641 on:** August 31, 2014, 03:03:46 PM »

Got Costa and Sigurdson on my team, got rid of Eriksen and Jovetic. Another 4 points but I'm still shaping my team. If you think you'll get around 1500/2000 points then these things don't matter. Would be god to see Bony finally score though. Thank god Pelle found the net, maybe this will unleash him.

People I need to dump too:
-Shelvey
-Sagna
-Nasri

Fifstar · « **Reply #642 on:** August 31, 2014, 03:45:26 PM »

Urgh, next weekend only international friendlies

Booooring

headwalk · « **Reply #643 on:** August 31, 2014, 03:46:39 PM »

i fell asleep and forgot to sub off costa.

boy is my face red.

headwalk · « **Reply #644 on:** August 31, 2014, 03:48:13 PM »

TOP OF THE LEAGUE

headwalk · « **Reply #645 on:** September 01, 2014, 05:16:42 PM »

Quote from: Esch on September 01, 2014, 05:11:16 PM

Quote from: Death Ghidorah on September 01, 2014, 05:06:34 PM
Any summary of what happened so far?

QPR and Hull had some good pickups, Man Utd copped Falcao on a year loan, Arsenal signed Danny Welbeck from Utd.

£360k a week for falcao and they have to buy him at the end even if he stinks up the place.

Timber · « **Reply #646 on:** September 03, 2014, 03:46:39 PM »

VIKING STRIKE

Show up during friendlies but not in CL

Timber · « **Reply #647 on:** September 03, 2014, 04:44:48 PM »

NEVERMIND, they lost horribly anyway. What else is new?

Where'd the sticky go?

Kara · « **Reply #648 on:** September 03, 2014, 05:10:48 PM »

I see how it is.

Fifstar · « **Reply #649 on:** September 03, 2014, 05:25:19 PM »

We just lost 4:2 against Argentina

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Still World Champion

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Fifstar · « **Reply #650 on:** September 03, 2014, 05:46:14 PM »

Yep, Di Maria was amazing. Makes you think that Madrid made a very bad move by selling him.

We actually weren't bad, had 3-4 high percentage chances which we just didn't convert in the first half, Argentina made almost all their good chances. And our team was mainly made up of young and up and coming players. Still, getting 4 goals is a bit of a cold shower.

headwalk · « **Reply #651 on:** September 03, 2014, 08:56:07 PM »

Quote from: Esch on September 03, 2014, 04:57:56 PM

Quote from: Timber on September 03, 2014, 04:44:48 PM
NEVERMIND, they lost horribly anyway. What else is new?

Where'd the sticky go?
I said take it down. What's the point if there are only 3 people posting in it, mostly me on top of that. Biz quit the internet, Himu stopped watching, Momo stopped posting. Only people posting are me, DC, and occasionally headwalk and Lager.

Anyway the US won today!

A squad of our ragged b team eredivisie, championship and bundesliga boys U 21 won over the Czech first team and looked very good in the first half.

Gyau did well, lots of hustle. Rimando had a class 2nd half, making a case to maybe be that goalkeeper in 2018. Bedoya had a decent goal. Mix Diskerud, Emerson Hyndman and Julian Green had good, if inconsistent games. Class of the night was Fabian Johnson. He'll be that guy by 2018.

RIP himu's eternal passion for the beautiful game 2014 - 2014.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #652 on:** September 03, 2014, 09:21:04 PM »

why are england fans constantly bemused by England?

Abject performances for 6-7 years plus yet acting like we should smash every team ever 5-6 to nil? oh yeah... that's reasonable.

That said - i love Talksport but i was tearing my hair out this morning at Andy Goldstein ...

Rooney -has- to be played because he's done it before (hasn't performed in 5+ years), and Sterling can't have his chance ahead of Rooney because he did his best work at club level with a great team around him....

hold on... Rooney has been shite at Internation level for an age, but is getting picked on his reputation plus previous CLUB form when he, gasp, had an international class team back him up.

The brain twisting required to still have Rooney in the team is staggering - and yet people are still talking about him leading the line in the next euros and the next world cup... why?! He hasn't performed at international level in a goddamn AGE. Infact, i'll go one further - England lost the first game in the world cup but looked fine - but PANIC HOW DO WE PLAY ROONEY LETS CHANGE IT ALL AROUND HES OUR BEST PLAYER and we were suddenly a load of crap.

England the team and England the fans need to lose the fear of dropping people. Simple fact : Rooney has not performed for England in years (he hit a few good strikes - notably in the Brazil friend but so frigging what) - we shot ourselves in the foot in the world cup by hamstringing the entire team by taking something that looked to be not far from working and building our team around someone who is NOT PERFORMING. It's insanely frustrating. See also : Top 4 mentality - there's great players (and always has been) down the lower teams that wont get a sniff because even Man U reserves with limited experience are rated above people playing week in week out at less fashionable clubs.

F-ck England - we get everything we deserve - plus : if you are an international only fan you are about as much a fan of football as a dried up turd on the sidewalk outside a sports bar. TELL ME ABOUT THAT TIME YOU WENT TO A BAR TO WATCH A MATCH THAT ONE TIME... I'M ALL FUCKING EARS.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #653 on:** September 03, 2014, 09:35:42 PM »

actually - this maybe even tracable back to a longer term grass-roots level:

at school, i primarily played Rugby because i'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rugby player than i am a football player, much to my utter annoyance.

But i was in the football team

At U16, we made it to the county final - we had played 6 games to get there, i'd played in every game has had a host of other players. But when it was announced we had made the final - all the glory hunters (albeit on paper "better players") came out of the woodwork and made the first team for the final, with some players dropped completely and a few of us dumped to the bench.

We got humped in the final 4-0, i'd made my vocal stance against the manager (a friends father) and the fact we'd screwed people over and was punished for doing so by being the only player to not play at the Pro Ground we were playing at - even though the game was over at 50 mins at 4-0.

I mean - ffs - we got losers medals - but 6 people who played the final got them but 6 players who played every game to get us there got nothing and the beat of the drum from the school and the manager and his son and the glory hunters was "you play your best team" - completely devoid of nuance or understanding. Boiling it down to individuals, screwing the team, screwing the teamplay that had got us there - i hate to say it but i was fucking thrilled we got beat. That was short lived because ultimately nothing changes - the same mistakes were still repeated. Ultimately it's an endemic part of English sport - we want the success but we want to pander to "super stars" as well - when a team - an actual team - like the 90s class of United come together and play year on year people are somehow staggered at how it is possible and it utterly blows my mind.

headwalk · « **Reply #654 on:** September 03, 2014, 09:36:51 PM »

every solvable problem the england team has can be encapsulated by the fact that mark noble has never received a cap.

he's comfortable on the ball, can pick a pass, connects the defence and attack and can make as good a tackle as any DM and has a work ethic and loyalty alien to most modern players, but never receives any attention because he doesn't play for a top four club, have a twattoo and an SS haircut.

i mean, if he was given a ride but didn't work out, that's one thing, but this player who seemingly embodies everything every pundit and their beaten mother says england is lacking to have never been even given a chance to prove themselves in even a friendly against bumfuckistan?

Timber · « **Reply #655 on:** September 04, 2014, 03:00:23 PM »

ITA 2-0 NED after 10 mins. This is what happens when you don't play van Dijk.

Sausage · « **Reply #656 on:** September 04, 2014, 05:18:59 PM »

Gonna try following Liverpool this year, and I think I'm gonna stick with it. I tried following Arsenal last year but I just kinda lost interest.

Sausage · « **Reply #657 on:** September 04, 2014, 06:15:53 PM »

I already had it narrowed down to the 4 teams that I could see myself possibly rooting for: Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool, and Tottenham.

I had Arsenal because it was the team my friends told me to root for, but in the end I felt like I was bandwagoning on something my friends have done for years and I couldn't get into them.

Everton and Tottenham are nice squads, but in the end they'll have higher turnover on their squads as a result of them selling off any good players they manage to develop. Plus, I don't know how much actual playing time Yedlin is going to get.

So Liverpool was the best option for me since they'll be able to keep most of their good players and it clicked in a way that following Arsenal didn't.

MLS

I'll still watch FC Dallas games if they're on TV

Sausage · « **Reply #658 on:** September 04, 2014, 06:40:26 PM »

Quote from: Esch on September 04, 2014, 06:21:48 PM

no wonder you're shitting on the MLS, FC Dallas I can't fuck with someone that isnt a fan of our domestic league. whats the point of just fucking with teams you have to pay 1000$ to see a million miles away.

Honestly none of the best teams are able to keep most of their good players unless you're City, Chelsea, United, Real or Barca. Even Bayern who have plenty of $$ sell off players to Real.

I'll be able to watch more live games of an BPL team than my local team. I mean I'll still support FC Dallas and I'll root for former players to do well in Europe, but the quality of play is much better in Europe and more entertaining to me.

Sausage · « **Reply #659 on:** September 04, 2014, 07:20:01 PM »

I play FIFA I know the stars!

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