The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

[meeb]

GAF has always been the online gaming equivalent of suburban white kids who learn about some urban slang/meme 6 months-15 years late and suddenly want to own it. Even ten years ago GAF was constantly re-posting shit from 4chan as "exclusive."

It's like "Bye Felecia."

"On fleek"

Love how white people

A) Think they invented this
B) Never use it correctly

Yup that's GAF for sure.

This post is on fleek fam.

[meeb]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204007645&postcount=349

Not sure if poor troll or bad opinion (Image removed from quote.)

You call it a poor troll but like at least 6 dense fuckers (not including you) thought that it was a serious or possibly serious post.

So...

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

It wouldn't be so bad if they actually allowed gaming discussion but they actively stamp it out in favor of feel good hugbox bullshit.  If your base is mentally incapable of hearing "Uncharted 4 was alright", then it's time to evaluate who your base is but that involves declining advertising revenues so we can't have that.

[OnlyRegret]

Oh, and didn't.... who was it... Mac was it?
Get the kill credit for purging the figurine thread?

Clearly this thread is the unappreciated unofficial mod hangout.

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203857029&postcount=101

Yeah, all these shows are low information comedy. I largely stopped watching them because it is easy to get sucked into that liberal echo chamber.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzYGWF6qrts

From the incoherent Salon article that thread is about:

Sophia A. McClennen is Professor of International Affairs and Comparative Literature at the Pennsylvania State University. She writes on the intersections between culture, politics, and society.

[thisismyusername]

Unrelated but:

Atra: http://steamcommunity.com/id/CitizenDickbag/

This is probably the best Steam avatar I've seen.

[Atramental]

Dogebutt?
Dickdoge?

[toku]

Unrelated but:

Atra: http://steamcommunity.com/id/CitizenDickbag/

This is probably the best Steam avatar I've seen.

Mine is better.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1220931

And people ask me why I hate Sony stans....

[thisismyusername]

Unrelated but:

Atra: http://steamcommunity.com/id/CitizenDickbag/

This is probably the best Steam avatar I've seen.

Mine is better.

[The Legend of Sunblade]

This was buried deep within the Civil War spoiler thread.

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204060885&postcount=13827

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204065046&postcount=13831

What a badass. 

[Great Rumbler]

This was buried deep within the Civil War spoiler thread.

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204060885&postcount=13827

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204065046&postcount=13831

What a badass. 

What is even going on here?

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203857029&postcount=101

Yeah, all these shows are low information comedy. I largely stopped watching them because it is easy to get sucked into that liberal echo chamber.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzYGWF6qrts

From the incoherent Salon article that thread is about:

Sophia A. McClennen is Professor of International Affairs and Comparative Literature at the Pennsylvania State University. She writes on the intersections between culture, politics, and society.

The weirdest part about the article is the amount of influence the author is pretending the show have or had and the claim that Trump "benefits" from a single comedy show being weaker. She's either taking the piss or oblivious that there's a kernel of truth about the progressive bias in entertainment... A lot of Trump supporters doesn't care he's getting roasted 24/7 by a bandwagon of NY comics, on the contrary they're probably taking it as confirmation that the "establishement" is out to get him.

This was buried deep within the Civil War spoiler thread.

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204060885&postcount=13827

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204065046&postcount=13831

What a badass. 

What ?
Been in a thousand pretend fights with dudes on the Internet

[benjipwns]

The main complaint seems to be that Noah seems to think he's hosting a comedy show first, not politically significant informational entertainment:

This is all to say that it is time to actually start listening to Noah and realize that, as long as he remains as host, “The Daily Show” will not now nor will it ever be a major source of political satire.  It will not offer comedy that informs and entertains.  The difference between Noah and Stewart will not simply be the fact that Noah is an outsider to the U.S. political process—it will be that Noah just doesn’t care that much.

It’s worth remembering that Noah himself made a point of telling the public that when he took over the show was going to stop going after Fox News.   So why should we be surprised that the show has abdicated its place as a source of politically significant comedy?

If anything Noah now seems annoyed that he is still asked why his show has no political edge.  In The Guardian interview he remarked:

“The biggest surprise was how much people expect the show to be a journalistic source, which is ridiculous,” he says. “People have found solace in a comedy show. You know what comes before my show? Cartoons that talk about fucking each other in the ass. You know what comes after my show? More fucking in the ass. We’re a comedy network.”

If you are a real Stewart fan, Noah’s line rings oddly familiar.  And it should.  Because Noah is effectively offering a hyped up rendition of the line Stewart famously gave when he appeared on CNN’s “Crossfire” and told Paul Begala and Tucker Carlson that it was not his job to inform the public, but rather to entertain them.  As Stewart called on CNN to do their job, he reminded the “Crossfire” hosts that the show that led into his on Comedy Central was “puppets making phone calls.”

So both Noah and Stewart found themselves defining their roles as comedic entertainers rather than serious reporters.  That stance, in fact, is commonplace for political comedians who walk the fine line between offering the public important correctives to misinformation while also trying to bring ironic levity to dark times.

The question is nothing new and Stewart’s answer was as predictable as Jonathan Swift’s would have been.  All political satirists make a point of insisting that they should not be a source of knowledge; they are just entertainers.

Noah’s answer, though, defines what makes him fundamentally different from Stewart.  First, Noah actually mocks those viewers who came to rely on the show for journalism, calling their expectations “ridiculous.”

I love how it then goes on for six paragraphs "fact-checking" his ass-fucking comment. To conclude:

The fact that he refers to Larry Wilmore’s “The Nightly Show “ as “more fucking in the ass” barely deserves comment.  It’s not just disrespectful to the important work done by Wilmore and his team; it’s truly incomprehensible.

When Stewart was asked about his serious role in the world, he accurately reminded his interviewers that his show was preceded by a puppet show called “Crank Yankers.”  Noah, in contrast, made up an answer that associated two sharp satire shows with ass fucking.

So there you have it.  In one comparison of the comedians in similar situations, Stewart followed in the footsteps of a number of great political satirists; Noah, in contrast, was crude, disrespectful, and –perhaps most importantly—just plain wrong.

We’ve had multiple clues that Noah might lack integrity. From nasty tweets, to joke poaching, to fake Twitter praise, the comedian has come under fire for a number of practices that are cause for concern and that set him apart from his predecessor.

Are we sure this isn't political satire?!?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203905245&postcount=308

So I should watch 500 or so bad shows before it gets good ok.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203919525&postcount=318

notmyproblem.jpg?

I'm sure its hard but I really don't care. Not going to waste time watching someone practice being a late night TV host.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203921284&postcount=324

It's been kind of said already, but stating the Daily Show has been largely inconsequential to politics is pretty categorically disindigenous. I don't know how you could be alive during the Bush years and think that, and even moving forward into Obama administration, where Obama's interview on the show early on is still cited as one of the more damaging things to his favourability. If you want to associate things as loosely as the GOP's grip on congress getting tighter because of The Daily Show, I think it's a much stronger argument to say that The Daily Show helped move the general electorate further left after Bush and his reelection via Jon's criticisms.

TDS was not an insignificant social phenomenon, news and entertainment would cover it and respond to it frequently. It was as actively engaged in political cycles and everyone took notice.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203922019&postcount=325

Making sure people were aware that Fox News was a racist, GOP-agenda-driven shitshow instead of a "fair and balanced" generic cable news network was worthy work. Not sure the metric should've been "Fox News' ratings crater after sick Jon Stewart diss." The effects that social commentary have are subtle and hard to quantify, but word got out about those assclowns and that was a good thing.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203871178&postcount=185

My major problem with Trevor Noah is that everything's always a joke to him.

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203872018&postcount=190

stop watching an entire show because of a running gag that shows up every 1.5 weeks for 15 seconds 

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=203883115&postcount=268

Personally I think all the late night guys are responsible for Trump. They ignored him and so let all his shit, lies and racsism go unchecked. John Oliver did that great segment on Trump, but only after months of not talking about him.
No way would Stewart have left his antics unchecked for so long.

[Kara]

I knew people who only got their political information from The Daily Show. They're breeders now and why I'm going to make sure I'm no longer a U.S. taxpayer one day soon.

[VomKriege]

To be fair, The Daily Show is not doing so hot right now. Noah's a funny dude but it's struggling a bit at the moment despite some good gags (Trump being an African potentate for instance). Klepper is super strong tho.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Jessica Williams 

[close]

Bee's show has been great however. But it's a weekly one, more time to write it.

[benjipwns]

I'm sure you can find complaints about Stewart turning it into a political media criticism show instead of the comedic/fake news program it was under Kilborn.

Noah's tinkered with the format, but nobody is probably interested in him drastically overhauling the show like that even if they'd let him.

It's like with all the late night shows, people watch it for the host, less so the content.

The Daily Show became politically informative because it took 10 of the 20 minutes out of the 24 hour news cycle that actually contains some kind of information and discussed/mocked/showed it. It was never the topical, free of the news cycle, shredding type show, outside of correspondent segments, that Oliver and Bee have started working with.

Colbert's mostly doing the same thing on his Late Show, starting with some kind of five minute political segment. To a bigger audience than the Daily Show ever had. And part of that audience maybe followed:

Only 17 percent of “Late Show” viewers identified themselves as Republican, the smallest margin of the big three. By contrast, ABC’s “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” viewers are 33 percent Republican. That’s a 16-point gap between the two comedians. In fact, among his own viewership, Colbert finds a 30-point gap between self-identified Republican viewers and self-identified Democrats. 47 percent of Colbert’s viewers are Democrats, the highest margin of all three. In Kimmel’s case, the ideological split is virtually nonexistent — 34 percent Democrats to 33 percent Republicans. In the case of NBC’s “Tonight Show” host, Jimmy Fallon, the split is 36 Republicans to 31 Democrats.

“Colbert Nation is filled with wealthy, socially liberal men who overwhelmingly support legalizing marijuana and want Bernie Sanders to be president,” pollster Jon Penn explained.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/290249744/The-Great-Late-Night-Poll

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

The problem with Noah is that he's too inexperienced.  Both Stewart and Colbert were comedy veterans by the time they got their own shows; each one had at least 15-20 years of experience under their belts before they got those shows.  It takes a long time to be good at comedy, which is why Dane Cook sucks ass but Louis CK is good.

When it comes to comedy, rarely does someone ever "blow up", chances are that before they got huge, they were small time for 10-20 years.  The ones that blow up fast burn out just as fast.

They should have filled Stewart's job with someone else and once that person moved on, then Noah could step up.

[mormapope]

Not to defer your point, but Dane Cook is only around five or six years younger than Louis, and Dane was doing comedy/stand up since he was at least 20 according to his wikipedia. Dane Cook hasn't been young since his career skyrocketed in the 2000's and cratered not long after.

Louis CK sorta rose up around the same time as Dane even. Louis worked with a lot more prestigious comedians than Dane did in the 90's and early 2000's, eventually his specials got enough attention that he got his own show on HBO.

I'd say the older a comedian gets, the better they get at reading a crowd or just performing in general. But the material and delivery itself is all derived from personal skill, craft, and natural comedic talent.

Dave Chappelle, Bill Hicks, Hannibal Buress, Eddie Murphy, these comedians were all at the top of their game in their late 20's/just turning 30.

[mormapope]

With whatever being said, I don't agree with the "Trevor Noah could be doing better" argument. I think the Daily Show has run its course completely. Its easier then ever to laugh directly at news media and politicians. The Daily Show in its last few years didn't have nearly as much entertainment value compared to 2004-2008.

The method that seems to be preferred now are long exposes on a subject or person, rather than nightly recaps of what happened the previous day.

Comedy Central seems fucked without South Park at this point. Key and Peele was a lucky fluke, as a pile of comedians tried to do sketch comedy after Chappelle's show and all of them failed.

[Purrp Skirrp]

With that preface out of the way,
(Image removed from quote.)

[thisismyusername]

Full Frontal = Last Week Tonight > Daily Show (Jon) = Colbert Report >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Late Show (Colbert) > Daily Show (Noah)

FTFY. Colbert post-Report has been very weak, and it's very sad as Colbert Report was one of the best things in television for non-Fiction. Once Noah finds his "teeth" (if he even does politics outside of doing it because Jon did it), I'm sure his show will be fine. But I clocked out because there's nothing there (yet) for me to watch.

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/hashtag/DisabilityTooWhite?src=tren

This hashtag and the tweets in it.

(Not sure this is fit for the outside link thread)

[Joe Molotov]

Sam Bee is mah waifu.

[zomgee]

https://twitter.com/hashtag/DisabilityTooWhite?src=tren

This hashtag and the tweets in it.

(Not sure this is fit for the outside link thread)

It's fit for twitter.

[zomgee]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221405

Malcolm X was born on this day in 1925. He would have been 91 years old.
A man truly ahead of his time, we need more people like Malcom X.

Great OP, includes math and everything.

[Phoenix Dark]

Jon Stewart wasn't funny either, nor was he particularly informed about issues given that he got rolled in most "serious" debates he instigated with guests.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221405

Malcolm X was born on this day in 1925. He would have been 91 years old.
A man truly ahead of his time, we need more people like Malcom X.

(Image removed from quote.)

Great OP, includes math and everything.

Dude, no.

[zomgee]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221405

Malcolm X was born on this day in 1925. He would have been 91 years old.
A man truly ahead of his time, we need more people like Malcom X.

(Image removed from quote.)

Great OP, includes math and everything.

Dude, no.

Well shit he could have said something about the guy.

I mean the Assassin's Creed OP get's 3 posts and takes 2 gigs to finally load, it feels like there's something out of order.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Maybe I should be happy that someone actually recognized the fact it's today at all, I dunno.

[close]

[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221405

Malcolm X was born on this day in 1925. He would have been 91 years old.
A man truly ahead of his time, we need more people like Malcom X.

(Image removed from quote.)

Great OP, includes math and everything.

Dude, no.

Well shit he could have said something about the guy.

I mean the Assassin's Creed OP get's 3 posts and takes 2 gigs to finally load, it feels like there's something out of order.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Maybe I should be happy that someone actually recognized the fact it's today at all, I dunno.

[close]

It that is a CAC shilling for MX I'm going to fucking explode.

It's one thing for CACS to take our music. But to start taking our leaders like this, isn't only embarrassing, its petulant.

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221399

The first page is all over the place 

[FStop7]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221399

The first page is all over the place 

"Why don't these filthy savages appreciate our outrage?"

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204104464&postcount=1426

Being as cool as this Gaffer isn't easy, it requires intelligence to be the one pointing the supreme futility of nerd meltdown over something as Ghostbusters in such an insightful post on a videogame forum.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I don't even disagree with him, here or often elsewhere, but man he's coming through as such a douche.

[close]

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221399

The first page is all over the place 

[zomgee]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204104464&postcount=1426

Being as cool as this Gaffer isn't easy, it requires intelligence to be the one pointing the supreme futility of nerd meltdown over something as Ghostbusters in such an insightful post on a videogame forum.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I don't even disagree with him, here or often elsewhere, but man he's coming through as such a douche.

[close]

We've gone over this in the previous thread, and it looks like while I was asleep the topic was fumbled at like an amputee in a rugby match.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221399

The first page is all over the place 

(Image removed from quote.)

As a male POW (person of whiteness) I try to avoid co-opting the fight again racism and sexism.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Not to worry, they are 1/8 Cherokee

[Trent Dole]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221399

The first page is all over the place 

(Image removed from quote.)

As a male POW (person of whiteness) I try to avoid co-opting the fight again racism and sexism.

omg... POW...

[zomgee]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221399

The first page is all over the place 

(Image removed from quote.)

As a male POW (person of whiteness) I try to avoid co-opting the fight again racism and sexism.

omg... POW...

WOW

[stufte]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221399

The first page is all over the place 

(Image removed from quote.)

As a male POW (person of whiteness) I try to avoid co-opting the fight again racism and sexism.

omg... POW...

WOW

Woman of Whiteness?

[Kara]

WashPo? That's like abbreviating debit as something other than DR. (We've all been there, accounting interns.)

[VomKriege]

Having seen the Rolfe video, I can now amend my previous post : not only Bobby Roberts is insufferable but he's also comically reaching at some mighty far straws.

[fizzel]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1221399

The first page is all over the place 

(Image removed from quote.)

Regressive activism and politics is White Womans burden.

[Atramental]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=204083211

Pot meets kettle.

[Brehvolution]

62 guests 

[archie4208]

wew lad that total lack of self awareness.

Although /r/politics circlejerks against Hillary as much as GAF circlejerks for her so I guess it balances out.

[VomKriege]

 

Internet: making assholes out of all of us.

[Let's Cyber]

wew lad that total lack of self awareness.

Although /r/politics circlejerks against Hillary as much as GAF circlejerks for her so I guess it balances out.

the problem arises when GAFers aren't actually having discussions with each other; they're shadow boxing the arguments from dumbasses on r/politics. 

Poligaf becoming so entrenched makes a lot more sense when you realize a lot of them get heated reading Reddit and then shotgun blast GAF with their frustration

[Tasty]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204118708&postcount=1556

[Jansen]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204118708&postcount=1556

the replies lol

Jesus Christ.

What the fuck?

Wow.

This is really lame, dude.

Not sure you're gonna be here for much longer with that kind of attitude, wow.

I wonder what the reactions here would be like if you said that about a male actor instead.

It's a little sad you thought this was clever on any level. Sorry to dogpile on this but...really dude you should have really thought about what you wrote before you hit "submit post".

You couldn't even be creative with this garbage.

they were creative enough 

[helios]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204104464&postcount=1426

Being as cool as this Gaffer isn't easy, it requires intelligence to be the one pointing the supreme futility of nerd meltdown over something as Ghostbusters in such an insightful post on a videogame forum.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I don't even disagree with him, here or often elsewhere, but man he's coming through as such a douche.

[close]

We've gone over this in the previous thread, and it looks like while I was asleep the topic was fumbled at like an amputee in a rugby match.

I understand that a lot of people consider the art of paying attention to be an almost superhuman trait, but I don't think that talent alone is a job anyone is hiring for.

[archie4208]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204118708&postcount=1556

Banned. 

[helios]

http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204118708&postcount=1556

Banned. 

The YoungBlood flows through this thread 

Our eyes have yet to open. Fear the Young Blood.

[Steve Youngblood]

I get way too much credit for bans. You people overestimate just how lazy I am.

[Jansen]

today in huelen is distinguished mentally-challenged

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204125520
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204126093

Don't got cocky Clinton, the truth is it ain't over yet.

http://www.criticalcommons.org/Members/AdrianFohr/clips/free-riding-in-class-elections/view

The truth of the matter is, however narrow it may be, there is a clear path for Sanders to win.


Exactly.

[stufte]

I get way too much credit for bans. You people overestimate just how lazy I am.

Have you ever banned me? Be honest. I won't cry too much.

[Kara]

I get way too much credit for bans. You people overestimate just how lazy I am.

The Butcher of Boards would say something like this.

[Let's Cyber]

today in huelen is distinguished mentally-challenged

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204125520
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204126093

I'm sure deep down Huelen also believes Ben Carson will rise from the ashes like a shimmering, radiant phoenix to save America with his flat tax