It has been 4... 0 days since the last mass shooting official shooting thread

[Himu]

https://twitter.com/TPMLiveWire/status/1158054142390284293

 

Hey Bore say hi to Dan Patrick

[ToxicAdam]

It's already a potential outcome! Look it up in your state code.

Isn't that a holdover from the past mental health care system where that kind of thing was socially acceptable? It seems incredibly rare to hear about that happening today. Professionals are too afraid of lawyers to be so bold.

[agrajag]

Police said they do not have a motive for Betts’ deadly rampage, but Masseth and other classmates said he expressed violent attitudes going back a decade.

Word spread quickly in 2010 about the lists of 15 classmates he wanted to “rape or kill” in a notebook he carried around, Masseth said.

“He had a kill list that was mostly guys and then a rape list that was mostly girls,” Masseth said, adding that he also texted her the list to prove she was on it. “The lists basically had any girl who turned him down, any girl who thought they were above him, and any guy that was competition or was seen as a threat.”

Masseth, who said she was “not one of the popular girls,” was shocked when she started to get Betts’ texts naming her as one of the girls on his “rape list.” The texts, she said, made it seem like Betts had a “God complex mixed with ‘Iwantattention.’”

Masseth said she doesn’t even remember having a full conversation with him, but later heard rumors he was “attached to her.”

“In the texts, and on the lists, he talked about destruction and dismemberment. I mean how did the police not know he was going to do something like what he did this weekend?” she said. “Everyone knew he was not right.”

After “countless texts” and growing concern in school about the lists, Masseth said she finally told her father, who encouraged her to contact the authorities.

Police officers pulled Betts off a school bus as they headed to school, a former classmate told The Washington Post. Masseth said police questioned Betts about the hit lists and he was suspended from school.

The following year he returned to school, she said. When she graduated in 2012, Betts was still “not right.”

“He basically got a slap on the wrist,” she said. “If he was only held accountable, this shooting would have never happened because he wouldn’t have been able to buy any firearms. There are levels of failure here.”

Police declined to comment on the purported lists, citing the “ongoing investigation” into Betts’ mass murder. Dayton Police Chief Richard Biehl said Sunday that Betts had no criminal record as an adult.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/classmate-says-dayton-shooter-connor-betts-targeted-her-in-high-school-we-predicted-he-would-do-this?source=articles&via=rss

[Mandark]

Isn't that a holdover from the past mental health care system where that kind of thing was socially acceptable?

Nope!

[Madrun Badrun]

8chan's server provider cut them off.  Its a start at least.   
https://new.blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/

[Leadbelly]

I notice video games have been brought up again.

[Leadbelly]

I think the problem is white people

When you scroll down quickly and see that avatar...

[thisismyusername]

[Leadbelly]

It's alright. We prevent it by banning violent video games.

[Vizzys]

banning videogames and message boards should fix this mass shooting problem

[team filler]

ban messageboards and kill us 

[Occam]

Enact similar firearm laws as Great Britain, Germany or any number of civilized nations have. There, that was simple. Problem solved.
Who knew the solution to too many, too easily accessible firearms would be to drastically reduce the number of firearms and making them hard to buy for private citizens?
Why didn't anyone point this out before?

The Holy Second Amendment (as personally decreed by Jesus) is being purposely misunderstood anyway, it's about having an armed militia to fend off colonial opressors. If it was about having an actual way to topple an evil government, then private citizens should be allowed to own nuclear arms.

[ToxicAdam]

Removing guns from america doesn't wash away the affect Splatoon has had on our children, though.

[toku]

https://twitter.com/RepDeanPhillips/status/1158511937103323148

[benjipwns]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/dayton-shooter-pornogrind-band

The man who killed nine and injured 27 in a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio, was the lead singer of a "pornogrind" metal band, a genre defined by its explicit subject matter and themes of gore and violence, specifically sexual violence and necrophilia, BuzzFeed News has learned.

The gunman, identified as 24-year-old Connor Betts, was a member of Menstrual Munchies, a three-person band that performed regularly in the Midwest death metal scene, recently appearing as one of the bands at the Summer Massacre 2 concert in Chicago on June 29.

Pornogrind is a subgenre of a fast and extreme kind of heavy metal called grindcore, which is known for its mostly dark, satirical themes of sexual violence and gore delivered for shock value.

The band's song titles are explicitly sexually violent, such as "Preteen Daughter Pu$$y Slaughter" and "Cunt Stuffed With Medical Waste - Sexual Abuse Of A Teenage Corpse." The album art is equally explicit. One album cover shows a woman consuming feces, while another shows an illustration of a young woman's headless body chained to a bed, covered in blood, as a man puts his pants back on.

Musicians in this genre posted messages online saying they were disgusted by Betts's actions.

[agrajag]

great we're back to 1999, when politicians blame mass shootings on video games and shock metal

[Madrun Badrun]

I can believe that headbanging causes mental disfunction. 

[agrajag]

it does cause cervical spine herniation which is why I stopped years ago

[Huff]

https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/1158074774297468928

This is actually really bad data, esp the 500 deaths per medical errors btw

[Transhuman]

Holy shit at Trump's smooth-over:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-speech-today-death-penalty-mass-shooting-el-paso-dayton-ohio-white-supremacy-a9040046.html

Now it's about the death penalty instead.

[headwalk]

if you execute everyone who commits a mass shooting, eventually there will be no mass shooters left.

[Nintex]

if you execute everyone who commits a mass shooting, eventually there will be no mass shooters left.

The US is implementing their very successful Afghanistan strategy at home.
If you had a dispute with your neighbor or wanted his daughter or free real estate for your own you would just tell the US that he was a member of Al Qaeda.
He would be bagged and shipped to Guantanamo without trial and if he resisted a late night break-in of his home he was probably a bad guy anyway.

In 10 or 20 years time some big 'scandal' will emerge that not everyone executed by the Trump administration crackdown on Antifaaaa, MS-13, Black Live Matters and White Supremacists was actually a Nazi 

I can't believe the news media and those calling for these executions are this dumb, oh wait, I can believe it 
They're basically signaling to Trump that if he wants to be reelected he just needs to increase his K/D ratio.

[Mandark]

trying so hard to construct a scenario where pepes are the real victims after a racist mass shooting

trying so so hard

sit down nintex

[Madrun Badrun]

https://www.cbsnews.com/

[ToxicAdam]

Maybe there will be a market one day for flagpoles that are set at permanent half-staff.

[MMaRsu]

Sad to see rightwing media blame video gaming once again.. war..war never changes

[Great Rumbler]

I wonder what Jack Thompson is doing these days?

[Nuitangg]

I recall even Hillary blamed games in the past. 

[Leadbelly]

https://twitter.com/AngelinaWTSP/status/1158199254684487680

Hmmm... intriguing.... I need to try this mass shooting thing some time.

He also looks like Jack Black's ugly brother.

[Leadbelly]

great we're back to 1999, when politicians blame mass shootings on video games and shock metal

It's just a distraction from talk of gun control.

[MMaRsu]

I wonder what Jack Thompson is doing these days?

Wasn't he disbarred?

[Rufus]

This is actually really bad data, esp the 500 deaths per medical errors btw

[Cerveza mas fina]

If only this had happened in an open carry state the shooter could have been stopped

[Cerveza mas fina]

I have been listening reading seeing americans cry over shootings for like 3 decades now and still no change I honestly don't care anymore

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/TheNewThinkerr/status/1158361657762078721

https://twitter.com/StephanieMInfa2/status/1158850151940808710

 

[agrajag]

shut up, black man, and listen to me, a soccer mom!

[team filler]

non whites have no idea about the hate whites have inside of them 

[benjipwns]

I don't think that's the real Dr. Manhattan.

[benjipwns]

He also did this on a first date:

An ex-girlfriend of the Ohio gunman who killed nine people says he showed her a video of the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting on their first date.

[TEEEPO]

the nra, that's why :'(

[shosta]

I don't understand what's supposed to happen in your hypothetical situation here. The crazy guy goes to the gun store, passes a background check (he is not a felon), and then... ? Was he supposed to be institutionalized against his will?

[shosta]

Oh, you're saying the gun store can be held liable for selling a weapon to a person who uses it in a shooting. But then could they also be held liable for a gun being used in a robbery? How about a suicide? How do you prove the person showed signs they shouldn't have a gun at the time of purchase?  How do you reconcile this with someone's right to have their arrest record sealed?

[Nintex]

"Just shoot them when they are sick puppies and try to buy a gun. Especially if they are white and supremacist. The guy in the gun store already has the guns so that is actually something that is very easy to do yet no one is talking about it"
 

[Mandark]

But then could they also be held liable for a gun being used in a robbery

Sure.

How about a suicide?

Okay.

How do you prove the person showed signs they shouldn't have a gun at the time of purchase?

Don't need to.

How do you reconcile this with someone's right to have their arrest record sealed?

Not my problem.

[shosta]

The way that would actually pan out is that people would just stop selling guns to black people. Anyway the only full measure is a constitutional amendment, so we should just go for gold and do that, because setting the bar too low just draws the debate out over an even longer period. I accept your gun seller liability only because it would genuinely cripple the gun market, not because it's well thought out policy.

[OnlyRegret]

He also did this on a first date:

An ex-girlfriend of the Ohio gunman who killed nine people says he showed her a video of the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting on their first date.

apparently he can't repel women even if he tries on the first date

[Mandark]

Honestly, I think a gun shop owner should have some ideas when someone comes in looking for AKs, banana mags, and armor.

I think the arms dealer's position would be that those items are like mall swords: stuff you sell to nerds so they can cosplay and feel like badasses, and which almost nobody actually has a practical use for.

[Mandark]

The way that would actually pan out is that people would just stop selling guns to black people. Anyway the only full measure is a constitutional amendment, so we should just go for gold and do that, because setting the bar too low just draws the debate out over an even longer period. I accept your gun seller liability only because it would genuinely cripple the gun market, not because it's well thought out policy.

if there was bad post liability this one would have increased your premiums

[shosta]

even when I'm on your side you're against me. what did I do to you

[benjipwns]

you know what you did

[Madrun Badrun]

There are no sides in the snark war. 

[Great Rumbler]

BAN ALL THE GUNS

AND KILL THEM

[Mandark]

Mostly it's that "I accept your gun seller liability only because it would genuinely cripple the gun market, not because it's well thought out policy" is the most Bruenig-ass thing I've read in a while.

[shosta]

Matt Bruenig has a beautiful mind and I gladly accept your compliment.

[Mandark]

The Washington Post did an investigation a few years back on how people acquired the guns they used in committing crimes, where they were originally sold, etc. There was one store where over 10% of the guns sold were tied to crimes by police reports.

I think it moved locations but is still in business.

[Nintex]

"We should've armed the teachers [...] and have them shoot the gamers in their class. The teachers know best which kids play violent video games these are sick puppies we have to put them down"
 

[shosta]

ban nintex

[benjipwns]

and kill him?

[agrajag]

too soon

[nachobro]

if anyone wants to buy a gun, shoot them in the head. problem solved.