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« Reply #4320 on: February 19, 2021, 01:39:52 PM »
Yeah, with PS4+PS5 crossplay, PC gonna be pretty empty I'd wager.

Though I can see the benefits of PC just due to variety of controllers. I'm just not loving Dual Sense for fighters so far. Buttons are bigger meaning having to push more for inputs and the d-pad feels bubbled up and not as smooth and instantaneous as DS4. It's a nice controller for a lot of games (feels like a DS4 with a bit of an xbox controller imo), just maybe not for fighters.

I don't play with a stick outside 3d fighters with a lot of tap inputs, so DS2-4 has served me pretty well for 4/5 button fighters last few gens, but if I'm gonna be stuck with Dual Sense for PS5 2d fighters, might need to look into 3rd party alternatives. Wish I could use my DS4, but I'd have to play the PS4 version in BC to do that which is stupid.

Get a Hori fightpad- unless they don't work with PS5?
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« Reply #4321 on: February 19, 2021, 02:40:33 PM »
They don't. I'm looking around online and right now nothing (even sticks?) work on the PS5 version of Strive.

If you play the PS4 version of Strive, everything works. But Sony implemented a really stupid controller lockout for native PS5 games and we probably need to wait until some official 3rd party PS5 controllers/sticks come out which will either be around when Strive launches or in another 1-2 years.

Honestly, since the PS4 is free with my PS5 pre-order, I might just play the PS4 version in BC mode instead if the load times aren't bad. Load times should be the same online anyhow since most users will be on PS4. So basically just slightly blurrier graphics but you get to use all your controllers.

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« Reply #4322 on: February 19, 2021, 04:01:36 PM »
They don't. I'm looking around online and right now nothing (even sticks?) work on the PS5 version of Strive.

If you play the PS4 version of Strive, everything works. But Sony implemented a really stupid controller lockout for native PS5 games and we probably need to wait until some official 3rd party PS5 controllers/sticks come out which will either be around when Strive launches or in another 1-2 years.

That's soooo trashy. I don't even have a ps5 but that agitates me on principal. I thought i'd be set having a proper hori fightstick.

All this just to sell dual senses 👀

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« Reply #4323 on: February 19, 2021, 04:19:36 PM »
Yeah, it's real bullshit.

I get the idea is because Dual Sense haptics may be needed to play some PS5 games and they didn't want developers to have to compromise on making haptics-required gameplay, but there still should be the option for developers to enable/disable this so if their game doesn't need haptics they can allow any controller to work with it.

It's pretty clear when they made the Dual Sense and the way controllers work that whoever was in charge at Sony didn't considering the FGC one bit.

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« Reply #4324 on: February 19, 2021, 04:23:06 PM »
haven't been able to get in the few times I've tried.

PS5 will have more people on but I just never end up playing fighters on my consoles, end up on PC so will probably just get it there.
I believe the beta will be up again by the time this post is 6 hours old.

I played for about 3-4 hours yesterday when it finally got working and to be honest I really like it. I was playing Gio mostly and absolutely dumpster dunkin' 90% of the people i played against except if it was ram it which case my ape ass ate her reversal super. I sort of get what people are saying about gatlings/combos. Some stuff feels like it should cancel and doesn't. Some stuff feels like it should get an OTG in older GG games but doesn't here. Gio at least has pretty easy to remember gatlings between her slash buttons, so if you do something like c.S 2HS 214k it feels like a pretty guilty gear ass combo.

The damage is really high though but I kinda like it? it makes the game feel really high stakes when you get on low health and it feels to good to snatch someone's weave with a high damage mix or reset. I forgot how fun RC shenanigans can be. Gives the mind game rush something like KI can give sometimes where you're just flying by the seat of your pants riffing and seeing if the other guy reacts or not.

The netcode is really crazy. Nothing else I've really played is anywhere near as smooth as Guilty Gear Strive is online. I was mostly playing people in the australian lobby with sub 100 ping but it was a bit surreal to be able to play so many games of an arcsys fighter without feeling like i was pulling teeth in some way.

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« Reply #4325 on: February 19, 2021, 04:24:39 PM »
Yeah, it's real bullshit.

I get the idea is because Dual Sense haptics may be needed to play some PS5 games and they didn't want developers to have to compromise on making haptics-required gameplay, but there still should be the option for developers to enable/disable this so if their game doesn't need haptics they can allow any controller to work with it.

It's pretty clear when they made the Dual Sense and the way controllers work that whoever was in charge at Sony didn't considering the FGC one bit.

Yep. I understand the marketers perspective of making developers actually use the haptics. Although, the xbox one not allowing 360 controllers didn't make anyone use impulse triggers in their games 👀

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« Reply #4326 on: February 19, 2021, 06:38:18 PM »
Iíve yet to be able to play this after the first night.

I turn on my ps5 a couple times a day and try and itís always down. Not sure if Iíll get to play any more in this beta :/

How the fuck is the online going to work on launch in two months. The servers struggled with the pre-orders only players crashing twice and itís been a mess since open to everyone. The only server load they could handle was the influencers only day lol

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« Reply #4327 on: February 19, 2021, 07:52:45 PM »
The current downtime is pretty wild. I got kicked at like 2am last night and it's 12pm now :doge granted I was sleeping for most of that and I have other stuff to do but it's still a drag.

yesterday it was down from when it opened to 10pm Australia time. lucky I didn't take work off to play 

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« Reply #4328 on: February 19, 2021, 08:49:08 PM »
How the fuck is the online going to work on launch in two months. The servers struggled with the pre-orders only players crashing twice and itís been a mess since open to everyone. The only server load they could handle was the influencers only day lol

Welcome to online beta testing.  :P
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« Reply #4329 on: February 19, 2021, 11:17:23 PM »
Got a few matches in but then a disconnect. And then a few matches in training mode matching and now it's been "searching for opponent for like 15 mins with nothing"

 :'(

Just been playing Faust and having fun. One of the video guides I watched the first night talked about how Slash still links to HS so S->HS->Special seems like a good BnB for almost everyone. Also if you get a full dust attack off and fly into the air original gatlings are unlocked during your air combo. Though I've never gotten a dust attack off on anyone outside training.

Mostly with Faust I just go for big full screen counter hits while teleporting around, throwing things and dropping bombs.

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« Reply #4330 on: February 20, 2021, 12:23:17 AM »
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« Reply #4331 on: February 20, 2021, 05:28:18 AM »
Back up again. what a rollercoaster.

if anyone wants to play me I'm hanging out in Oceania 6f :doge

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« Reply #4332 on: February 20, 2021, 02:06:39 PM »
I got in a bit last night, dominated like 2 matches then got moved to a murder lobby.  :stahp

I am not liking the dualsense with it but I think the actual fighting feels less responsive? will give it a bit more maybe tomorrow.

It looks great at least, although my wife was laughing at the music.  :lol

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« Reply #4333 on: February 20, 2021, 05:41:54 PM »
It looks great at least, although my wife was laughing at the music.  :lol

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« Reply #4334 on: February 20, 2021, 07:15:00 PM »
Got a PS5 today. :D

This game looks great. I'll try playing online later tonight.

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« Reply #4335 on: February 20, 2021, 09:02:49 PM »
I-No leaked as #15 in base roster.

I-No is cool, but yeah would've been nicer to have more of the missing XX characters that didn't make it to X3rd. Anji is ok, I honestly think he's probably the 2nd most boring XX character after Kliff.

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« Reply #4336 on: February 20, 2021, 09:17:22 PM »
I-No leaked as #15 in base roster.

I-No is cool, but yeah would've been nicer to have more of the missing XX characters that didn't make it to X3rd. Anji is ok, I honestly think he's probably the 2nd most boring XX character after Kliff.

I-NO

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Looks like I found a main although it may end up being Potemkin.

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« Reply #4337 on: February 20, 2021, 09:25:29 PM »
The beta has been extended and will now end on 2/23 at 6:59 AM PST.
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« Reply #4338 on: February 20, 2021, 09:36:30 PM »
Potemkin is soooo strong right now. if he counter hits you you're dead. I've dropped a lot of games to him and no one has even bustered me yet lol

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« Reply #4339 on: February 20, 2021, 10:02:36 PM »
Gamespot fucked up and this image is what led to I-No being found.  :lol

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« Reply #4340 on: February 20, 2021, 11:41:52 PM »
Potemkin is soooo strong right now. if he counter hits you you're dead. I've dropped a lot of games to him and no one has even bustered me yet lol

I haven't tried Potemkin online in this, but as a grappler main in fighters I'm ok with this  :lol

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« Reply #4341 on: February 21, 2021, 02:20:40 AM »
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« Reply #4342 on: February 21, 2021, 02:21:03 AM »
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« Reply #4343 on: February 21, 2021, 02:21:29 AM »




My guess is it's Baiken.
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« Reply #4344 on: February 21, 2021, 02:22:39 AM »
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« Reply #4345 on: February 21, 2021, 02:23:27 AM »


Switch getting some fighting game love!
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« Reply #4346 on: February 21, 2021, 03:30:36 AM »
If Baiken gets in SamSho but not in Strive  :doge

Then again not a lot of GG characters could fit with SamSho. Anji & Nagoroshi could.


But they should just put Faust in SamSho for the lolz

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« Reply #4348 on: February 21, 2021, 03:43:05 AM »
I'd actually bet SamSho's guest from GG is Nagoriyuki. Dude is the most SamSho character in GG with his 3/4ths screen giant sword slashes. He's also kinda the new character mascot for Strive, so both reasons would make sense for him to guest star.
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« Reply #4349 on: February 21, 2021, 09:16:43 AM »
Everyone I've tried so far feels great (my first GG), but I think I'm sticking with Ramlethal, Chipp, and Axl for the beta. Nagoriyuki's range makes up for having no dash, but I'm just having more fun with the other characters right now.

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« Reply #4350 on: February 21, 2021, 10:03:05 AM »
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« Reply #4351 on: February 21, 2021, 01:36:06 PM »
HP+MK? wtf  :lol

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« Reply #4352 on: February 21, 2021, 02:40:09 PM »
HP+MK? wtf  :lol

The easier button combinations are already in use!  :lol

As a fightpad player, will just use go 'claw' or map them to a shoulder button.

What I would have done is change throws to something else and use lp+lk for this.
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« Reply #4353 on: February 21, 2021, 06:34:01 PM »
LP LK  Got that three games worth of legacy thing going on now though. I agree the input is goofy and but they kinda pushed themselves into a corner.

Made it to floor 7 with Gio in the GG beta and was feeling myself until a ram and a zato super duper crushed me. I really need to work on my anti airs because rams sword drop (j.s?) is eating me alive.

I also should probably have a combo longer than three hits in my pocket lmao. the only time I do good damage is when I pop RC and go buck wild

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« Reply #4354 on: February 22, 2021, 07:53:11 AM »
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« Reply #4355 on: February 22, 2021, 07:53:57 AM »
LP LK  Got that three games worth of legacy thing going on now though. I agree the input is goofy and but they kinda pushed themselves into a corner.

It could be changed- like to say, forward+PP or forward+KK like in Alpha 3. 
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« Reply #4356 on: February 22, 2021, 08:14:36 AM »
SFV update is up with:

-Dan
-Eleven
-V-Shift
-Balance changes
-New costumes

No new stages yet, but you can get the darker version of the grid as a stage alt.  You can also map v-shift to a single button.

It seems that to use v-shift, you have to be in neutral with the dpad/joystick- it feels more natural to be to be holding back when doing it, but it won't work that way.
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« Reply #4358 on: February 22, 2021, 10:27:02 PM »
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« Reply #4359 on: February 23, 2021, 05:24:42 PM »
I thought today was the last day of the beta, not yesterday. :(

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« Reply #4360 on: February 23, 2021, 05:49:42 PM »
I thought today was the last day of the beta, not yesterday. :(

Ended this morning.

The beta has been extended and will now end on 2/23 at 6:59 AM PST.

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« Reply #4361 on: February 23, 2021, 06:34:13 PM »
I thought today was the last day of the beta, not yesterday. :(

my dopamine source is gone :(

time to reinstall sfv

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« Reply #4362 on: February 23, 2021, 08:40:30 PM »
I agree about the PS5's dpad for fighters btw. We need something better by the time Strive launches.

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« Reply #4363 on: February 23, 2021, 09:14:28 PM »
It has really been a minute since I really played SFV. Kinda cool. Like Necali? Really?

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« Reply #4365 on: February 26, 2021, 12:30:30 PM »
Is rollback not just a third party netcode they can license?

Seems weird that it's so much work for these devs to implement.

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« Reply #4366 on: February 26, 2021, 01:41:29 PM »
Japanese devs tend to suffer from Not Invented Here Syndrome. Hopefully their rollback solution is similar to Strive and not developed by 1 guy in a broom closet like SFV.

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« Reply #4367 on: March 03, 2021, 08:17:03 PM »
Guilty Gear Strive has been delayed to June.

https://twitter.com/ArcSystemWorksU/status/1367278816125718537
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« Reply #4368 on: March 03, 2021, 08:49:58 PM »
Dang, oh well.

Probably gotta figure out how to fix all the infinites and stuff without just nerfing things even more to the point the game isn't fun anymore. People found a lot of brokeness in the beta.

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« Reply #4369 on: March 03, 2021, 08:51:37 PM »
Also, June 11th is getting packed for PS5 releases:

Strive PS5
Ratchet PS5
FFVII PS5

dunno why everyone always has to release on the same day.

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« Reply #4370 on: March 03, 2021, 09:15:27 PM »
I just hope it means THEY DITCH THE DUMB LOBBIES.

Anyway, more KOF:



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« Reply #4371 on: March 03, 2021, 09:17:37 PM »
Andy - No longer the ugliest Bogard.

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« Reply #4372 on: March 03, 2021, 09:18:12 PM »
I just hope it means THEY DITCH THE DUMB LOBBIES.

Anyway, more KOF:


I don't even care anymore. a life ina  world where strive comes out june 11 isnt worth living

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« Reply #4373 on: March 03, 2021, 09:19:10 PM »
Andy - No longer the ugliest Bogard.

Massive improvement over the last game, which resulted in memes like this one:



Andy looking good now!


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« Reply #4374 on: March 03, 2021, 10:21:24 PM »
Yo he looks great! He was definitely one of the worst looking characters in the last one.

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« Reply #4375 on: March 04, 2021, 04:44:44 PM »
has it been announced as EGS exclusive or anything?

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« Reply #4376 on: March 04, 2021, 07:09:01 PM »
has it been announced as EGS exclusive or anything?

Probably will be when the release date for the PC version is announced? After SamSho I don't see why they wouldn't take that moneyhat.

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« Reply #4377 on: March 04, 2021, 09:28:29 PM »
Strive delay :(

And I'm sure we'll still have the shitty lobbies in the end.

Why does the music in that Andy Bogard trailer sound so bad?

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« Reply #4378 on: March 04, 2021, 10:15:48 PM »
Why does the music in that Andy Bogard trailer sound so bad?

It's the same stage music he first had in Fatal Fury 2.
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« Reply #4379 on: March 04, 2021, 10:38:02 PM »
Went back and checked a few trailers. It's not just that song. The sound overall in this KOF just feels cheap imo.