VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[daemon]

So Angelus Errare posted something worse than I ever did but isn't banned, even for a day?

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Angelus is just the example I need if I ever feel nostalgic of posting on GAF. Well, and a huge asshole that calls people who coexist in the forum every name in the book. But that besada protected status is too...voluptuous.

That thread was on at least page 2, maybe page 3. Now there's 27 posts 

Meanwhile... in the Will mobile-gaf ever see further development? thread:

Too busy cramming the mobile site with malware ads to actually add features.

 

did the post get blown the fuck up?

[zomgee]

what does this make, his possibly 20th ban?

Haha, Angelus banned. Good one.

Ha ha

[zomgee]

Wow, this is a safe space hugbox.

  mods help

[Averon]

You'd think after all the broken promises from 'Lore that he'll fix the ad situation, they'll get a clue that 'Lore's either a liar or incompetent. To be far, some users seems to see through the BS, but their posts stating such (and sometimes their accounts) are quickly purged.

[Nola]

Yup. I just noticed the purged posts as well.

Pretty damn pathetic. If this was ANY other poster, they would have gotten a very public ban. If this doesn't show that Angelus Errare is a protected poster there, nothing will.

We could look at the upside?

At least they didn't go through and ban all the people that called him out for something like "backseat moderation" or whatever bullshit reason they use to punish the deplorables who dare to call out or criticize a protected poster's behavior.

Last time I called out a protected poster's shit behavior I was banned for "personal attacks." Even though I didn't and the poster I quoted literally rolled in with a drive-by post calling anyone that didn't accept his particular assertion on this matter a bunch of racists.

[zomgee]

That's a good point.

[clothedmacuser]

That's fucking amazing.  The mods are basically his secret police.

[Dennis]

What the hell is gong on at Hello Games?



 

[Nola]

That's fucking amazing.  The mods are basically his secret police.

And make no mistake, he is well aware of his "diplomatic immunity!"


Honestly it wouldn't be a thing if GAF moderation didn't have the history of hypocrisy and disproportionality looming in the background when they did this.

 In isolation you are just cleaning up a derail, in context though its GAF mods minimizing damage to a protected poster from his own idiocy and further enabling him for the future.

What did beseda say in that leaked PM? Angelus had like 10-12 bans by 2014? But he is basically given an infinite lives cheat code and a longer leash then others by choice. I guess because the forum that has encouraged white guilt as a competition sport feels they can't get rid of this minority poster because, IDK, GAF would turn into a basket of deplorables without Angelus race baiting in almost every topic he touches?

[agrajag]

Besada is Angelus' cuck 

[Averon]

Looks like Angelus was banned after all. I guess even GAF mods couldn't justify not banning Angelus lest they look extremely hypocritical, inconsistent, and confirmed that certain posters do, in fact, have more leeway than others. Of course, I'm expecting this ban to last a couple days at most.

[agrajag]

Looks like Angelus was banned after all. I guess even GAF mods couldn't justify not banning Angelus lest they look extremely hypocritical, inconsistent, and confirmed that certain posters do, in fact, have more leeway than others. Of course, I'm expecting this ban to last a couple days at most.

My guess is that is a sympathetic mod tried to clean up his tracks by deleting his posts, but then another mod saw them later and banned his ass.

[Nola]

Looks like Angelus was banned after all. I guess even GAF mods couldn't justify not banning Angelus lest they look extremely hypocritical, inconsistent, and confirmed that certain posters do, in fact, have more leeway than others. Of course, I'm expecting this ban to last a couple days at most.

I'd put money on a week.

[conradcervantes]

Looks like Angelus was banned after all. I guess even GAF mods couldn't justify not banning Angelus lest they look extremely hypocritical, inconsistent, and confirmed that certain posters do, in fact, have more leeway than others. Of course, I'm expecting this ban to last a couple days at most.

Good. Sick of his fucking shit.

[parallax]

damn, you guys are killing me.

[clothedmacuser]

Another thread with deleted posts.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1291454

Women tweet about the first sexual assault they endured...

One of the tweets is a women saying a guy "grabbed her pussy."  The first reply is a guy wondering if that was donald trump.  Second reply is a person saying "How dare you!  It's not a time to make jokes and insult these women."  Instead of banning the idiot nutcase they just deleted the posts and pretend it never happened. 

I think this is the new GAF policy.  Don't ban members and reduce the number of users.  Just delete all conflicts and overly "SJW" antics.  Soon GAF will almost look mainstream.

[clothedmacuser]

Besada is Angelus' cuck 

I think it's Bish being Angelus' bitch boy.   Both those mods realized they have to back his unhinged ass lest the population turn on them.

[Dennis]

Deletion of posts virtually never happened on GAF before unless it was something like a porn account suicide.

Now it seems like it is getting more and more common.

Down the memory hole 

[railGUN]

My last post on NeoGAF was deleted  :'(

[Averon]

I sort of doubt deleting posts in lieu of bans will be a new policy going forward. Then again, you can't have a moderation team as ban happy as GAF, with strict rules for approving new accounts, and not have it affect the site's traffic in some degree.

[zomgee]

Looks like Angelus was banned after all. I guess even GAF mods couldn't justify not banning Angelus lest they look extremely hypocritical, inconsistent, and confirmed that certain posters do, in fact, have more leeway than others. Of course, I'm expecting this ban to last a couple days at most.

I'd put money on a week.

nevar forget

http://imgur.com/a/mWYq8#YgguFLe

I got banned once for arguing for yesnononoyes or whatever the name is

Anyway there's a lot in what Besada says in these PMs that are true, but trying to pound a nail with a screwdriver just causes damage.

[railGUN]

I am throwing a Halloween party. The first part is my daughter's B-Day party and it will turn into a grown up party after she goes to bed. I expect about 30 people will show up.

My friends aren't heavy drinkers and I don't drink at all. My wife hates beer.

What is like, a "standard" beer I can buy in Texas? The invite warns people to BYOB but I am gonna supply some along with some liquor for mixed drinks. With that in mind I feel like I don't need to go crazy.

I asked my friend, and was like, "What is the Coca Cola of beer? Budwieser?" he said, "Anywhere else maybe, but in Texas it's certainly shiner."

Ya'll have any thoughts?

Sheldon? Is that you?

[Nola]

Looks like Angelus was banned after all. I guess even GAF mods couldn't justify not banning Angelus lest they look extremely hypocritical, inconsistent, and confirmed that certain posters do, in fact, have more leeway than others. Of course, I'm expecting this ban to last a couple days at most.

I'd put money on a week.

nevar forget

http://imgur.com/a/mWYq8#YgguFLe

I got banned once for arguing for yesnononoyes or whatever the name is

Anyway there's a lot in what Besada says in these PMs that are true, but trying to pound a nail with a screwdriver just causes damage.

Thats the one I was thinking of earlier!

But yeah, I get what besada is saying to an extent, but on the other hand it's also pretty clear besada was just giving a long-winded rationalization for playing favorites.

I get protecting minority voices, but that doesn't have to come at the expense of extensively and continuously compromising obvious codes of conduct on their behalf or shielding them from their consequences. You do it too long and it becomes counter-productive and self-defeating.

[VomKriege]

What the hell is gong on at Hello Games?

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"Abandoned" office
Looks like a standard crappy commercial building. Welcome to the UK lad.

[VomKriege]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=219569387



http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=219554978



http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=219554078

[Raist]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=219588437&postcount=120

Where the fuck does he live, Rapetopia?

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Memoryholing is an interesting strategy.  Of course now people are just going to start archive.is'ing the threads so they can share them when they find that a thread has been fucked with to protect their protected users.

NeoGAF is going down the toilet in almost the exact same way SomethingAwful was/is.

[Raist]

They'll just nuke the posts linking to archives.

[archie4208]

A mod purged the thread of all Angelus Errare's derail. Not banned. 

BCT has mods on a short leash.

https://archive.is/yE0Ii

What did he mean by this? 

[bork]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1291409&page=4

I just got my Note 7 2 days ago. I love this phone so much.

I don't have anyone else that uses it besides me so I'm just gonna ride this out and be extra safe with it. I'm only gonna use the stock charger and be very mindful of the temperature of the device.

This phone is so amazing. It Sucks this had to happen.

Sure, just keep it and hope it won't explode.  What's the worst that can happen? 

[Crash Dummy]

How long do you guys think before a rapper drops a Trump pussy grabbing simile?

"Grab yo pussy like donald trump"

EDIT: wrong thread, but still a pertinent question

http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/mike-dean-grab-em-by-da-pussy-new-song.1971536.html

[thisismyusername]

BCT has mods on a short leash.

Shhhh, don't tell EvilBore this. They'll think you're racist for (rightly) calling those folks out with their derails and pushing "allies" away.

Meanwhile... in the Will mobile-gaf ever see further development? thread:

did the post get blown the fuck up?

No. It's Post #94 in that thread.

What did beseda say in that leaked PM? Angelus had like 10-12 bans by 2014? But he is basically given an infinite lives cheat code and a longer leash then others by choice. I guess because the forum that has encouraged white guilt as a competition sport feels they can't get rid of this minority poster because, IDK, GAF would turn into a basket of deplorables without Angelus race baiting in almost every topic he touches?

Besada is Angelus' cuck 

Pretty much. Anyone else would get month long (or perma) bans over the race-baiting bullshit he does weekly. Fuck Besada for protecting his race-baiting ass.

Looks like Angelus was banned after all. I guess even GAF mods couldn't justify not banning Angelus lest they look extremely hypocritical, inconsistent, and confirmed that certain posters do, in fact, have more leeway than others. Of course, I'm expecting this ban to last a couple days at most.

Good. Sick of his fucking shit.

[daemon]

Meanwhile... in the Will mobile-gaf ever see further development? thread:

did the post get blown the fuck up?

No. It's Post #94 in that thread.

cheers. When evilore sees the post, he's already guest

[VomKriege]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1291262

Thread about British exceptionalism turns into a WWII debate with all the clichés you can expect.
"Germany, much efficient such humble." "German industry so strong Soviet weeped" "British irrelevant in war lol"
Not super outrageous but a pet peeve of mine.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=219544526

[nudemacusers]

BCT has mods on a short leash.

Shhhh, don't tell EvilBore this. They'll think you're racist for (rightly) calling those folks out with their derails and pushing "allies" away.

Meanwhile... in the Will mobile-gaf ever see further development? thread:

did the post get blown the fuck up?

No. It's Post #94 in that thread.

What did beseda say in that leaked PM? Angelus had like 10-12 bans by 2014? But he is basically given an infinite lives cheat code and a longer leash then others by choice. I guess because the forum that has encouraged white guilt as a competition sport feels they can't get rid of this minority poster because, IDK, GAF would turn into a basket of deplorables without Angelus race baiting in almost every topic he touches?

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Besada is Angelus' cuck 

Pretty much. Anyone else would get month long (or perma) bans over the race-baiting bullshit he does weekly. Fuck Besada for protecting his race-baiting ass.

Looks like Angelus was banned after all. I guess even GAF mods couldn't justify not banning Angelus lest they look extremely hypocritical, inconsistent, and confirmed that certain posters do, in fact, have more leeway than others. Of course, I'm expecting this ban to last a couple days at most.

Good. Sick of his fucking shit.

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yeah but at the end of the day who cares tho.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1291262&page=3#post219541211

What planet is this goofball living on?

[Great Rumbler]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=219588437&postcount=120

Where the fuck does he live, Rapetopia?

Tisdale, Saskatchewan.

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[Let's Cyber]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1291262

Thread about British exceptionalism turns into a WWII debate with all the clichés you can expect.
"Germany, much efficient such humble." "German industry so strong Soviet weeped" "British irrelevant in war lol"
Not super outrageous but a pet peeve of mine.

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=219544526

I always wondered if any actual historians browse those GAF threads and are just like

 

So many posters sound like they haven't read a history book since they were 15.  Maybe worse are the dudes willing to pound out several paragraphs without a single source or citation.  I'd rather have a Mumei style overkill of "Here is where I gathered this information and here are 75 related books released within the last 7 months on this issue" than someone talking out of his ass and expecting the reader to take everything at face value. 

[railGUN]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1291541

[archie4208]

That's one ugly ass jacket.

[zomgee]

I thought we were past that shitlord

[agrajag]

I would not be seen out in public together with anyone wearing that.

[nudemacusers]

that jacket would look better if it was more expensive

[agrajag]

It's one of those things that would only be passable if a celebrity or a model was wearing it.

[Great Rumbler]

Looks like something my grandma would wear.

[railGUN]

Note 7 is the Donald Trump of smartphones.

Okay I lol'd 

[nudemacusers]

It's one of those things that would only be passable if a celebrity or a model was wearing it.

i hear this alot

because people think i am a celebrity/model

[FStop7]

Trump brags about molesting women.  He gets rebuked in the harshest way.  GAF sez "well clearly this is all about white males."

Gotta always make it about themselves.

[Nola]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1291541

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He's right, it isn't a gender thing, its a fucking ugly jacket regardless of sex.

It's one of those things that would only be passable if a celebrity or a model was wearing it.

...Right before they fire their stylist.

 

[benjipwns]

What the hell is gong on at Hello Games?

"Abandoned" office
Looks like a standard crappy commercial building. Welcome to the UK lad.

has sticks and debris in front of the door

[Joe Molotov]

Before I scrolled down to the pic, I was imagining their front door looking like this:

[benjipwns]

I always wondered if any actual historians browse those GAF threads and are just like

 

So many posters sound like they haven't read a history book since they were 15.  Maybe worse are the dudes willing to pound out several paragraphs without a single source or citation.  I'd rather have a Mumei style overkill of "Here is where I gathered this information and here are 75 related books released within the last 7 months on this issue" than someone talking out of his ass and expecting the reader to take everything at face value.

I have a masters in History am I an "actual historian"?

In that 800 page Trump grabbing pussy thread I responded to a post that said "All of Bill Clinton's stuff was consensual" with something like "Not according to the women who have accused him of sexual harrassment and worse." And got dogpiled with "is Bill Clinton running for something?" "What Trump has said is far worse than an affair." "Bill was impeached and it turned out to be nothing." "Reading Wikipedia it seems like some of those cases never went to trial so I doubt they're anything unlike Trump admitting to assault." "Why do you people always bring up Bill Clinton when the topic isn't about him?" The last one being from the original poster I had quoted and responded to.

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I also pulled the "Aren't we supposed to give all victims the benefit of the doubt?" card because I'm a fucking asshole.

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That kinda ended it except for the original poster skimming Wikipedia and trying to come up with reasons why in this case, no, the victims are not to be trusted and why the hell do I keep bringing up Bill Clinton in a thread about Trump.

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No, I'm not an actual historian.

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[agrajag]

There was a post that said "wait, did Bill Clinton have multiple affairs?" I forget how young some of these cats are sometimes.

[FStop7]

I hope we can all come together and agree that whether you're on a bus with Billy Bush or in some Eastern European bar it's not okay to grab random women.  And people who DO engage in that behavior should expect to be held publicly accountable.

[benjipwns]

There was a post that said "wait, did Bill Clinton have multiple affairs?" I forget how young some of these cats are sometimes.

Yeah, there were a number like that. One was like "Bill paid way too much for his one affair." They must be really confused by all the Bill Clinton is a horndog jokes in stuff from 1992-present if they thought it was just about Monica, especially Jay Leno's entire career.

A few of the experts in PoliGAF were like "what? what are you talking about?" when I was explaining for somebody who asked that impeachment and everything about Monica all came about from two completely separate pre-existing cases, the Whitewater investigation and that cases' prosecutor Ken Starr deciding to fold in Paula Jones' sexual harassment lawsuit so he could pressure witnesses. They thought the entire timeline was like Drudge reveals Monica -> Republicans impeach him for sex in the oval office -> Bush steals Florida when this was like a six year long thing.

[agrajag]

Case in point  benji

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=219619814
 

[Let's Cyber]

I always wondered if any actual historians browse those GAF threads and are just like

 

So many posters sound like they haven't read a history book since they were 15.  Maybe worse are the dudes willing to pound out several paragraphs without a single source or citation.  I'd rather have a Mumei style overkill of "Here is where I gathered this information and here are 75 related books released within the last 7 months on this issue" than someone talking out of his ass and expecting the reader to take everything at face value.

I have a masters in History am I an "actual historian"?

In that 800 page Trump grabbing pussy thread I responded to a post that said "All of Bill Clinton's stuff was consensual" with something like "Not according to the women who have accused him of sexual harrassment and worse." And got dogpiled with "is Bill Clinton running for something?" "What Trump has said is far worse than an affair." "Bill was impeached and it turned out to be nothing." "Reading Wikipedia it seems like some of those cases never went to trial so I doubt they're anything unlike Trump admitting to assault." "Why do you people always bring up Bill Clinton when the topic isn't about him?" The last one being from the original poster I had quoted and responded to.

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I also pulled the "Aren't we supposed to give all victims the benefit of the doubt?" card because I'm a fucking asshole.

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That kinda ended it except for the original poster skimming Wikipedia and trying to come up with reasons why in this case, no, the victims are not to be trusted and why the hell do I keep bringing up Bill Clinton in a thread about Trump.

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No, I'm not an actual historian.

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Close enough!

This was one of my favorite posts during this Pussygate saga BTW

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=219471431&postcount=78

"EVERY SINGLE ELECTION has some sort of historic moment in October that sways the election!"

These all happened in mid-September.

 

[benjipwns]

It probably doesn't help that Wikipedia editors pull a NeoGAF.com and scrub a lot of the once extended articles that used to exist and tries to put them into short summaries on like one page "Controversies about [X]..." or just outright delete stuff because "encyclopedias aren't supposed to be comprehensive" when that was a feature of bound ones that Wikipedia is supposed to be better than. (It's not just politics, someone took a hatchet to the video game consoles entries a couple years back.)

At least this is still on Bill's page:

In 1998, Nobel laureate Toni Morrison called Clinton "the first Black president", saying, "Clinton displays almost every trope of blackness: single-parent household, born poor, working-class, saxophone-playing, McDonald's-and-junk-food-loving boy from Arkansas".[195] Noting that Clinton's sex life was scrutinized more than his career accomplishments, Morrison compared this to the stereotyping and double standards that blacks typically endure.[195]

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Clinton greets a Hurricane Katrina evacuee, September 5, 2005. In the background holding his jacket is then-Senator Barack Obama.

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[agrajag]

Every black person plays the saxophone, got it.

[benjipwns]

"EVERY SINGLE ELECTION has some sort of historic moment in October that sways the election!"

This is one of those disconnects you find between conventional wisdom among those who have some knowledge of something but refuse to know the limits of what they don't know and conventional wisdom of those who know their limits.

Like the idea that "October Suprises" happen has been a joke for decades, many people don't even consider the "original" one (which is often disputed too) to meet the standard of what it's supposed to be. But the idea that they exist and change the race suddenly is pervasive and "known" in the media, punditry, etc. Same with all the stuff about undecideds and how THIS EVENT IS going to sway this and that and THE DEBATES, when it's partisans who watch the debates in the first place. It's long been known that people who don't care about elections don't suddenly get inspired by their CIVIC DUTY and start paying attention 24/7 and pouring through position papers to try and make up their mind over the last month. If anything those who truly are undecided, wait and make up their minds in the last 24-48 hours.

This was my favorite expert on the Trump tape but it was in PoliGAF thread which I usually ignore for sharing in the hugbox:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=219490454&postcount=5153

Just so everyone understands how bad this video is for Trump, the political fallout from this is on the same level as catching him using the n-word, and it's just a step below him being indicted for rape or murder. He's done.

All but the most hardcore bigots are walking away now, and while Republicans won't vote for Clinton, they will stay home on Election Day. So, no, it's not implausible that Clinton will capture 70-80% of the popular vote.

We are in uncharted waters now, but this whole election has been one for the history books, so that's nothing new.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=219492440&postcount=5206

Please name a bigger (costlier) political scandal that has hit one of the big two candidates this close to the election in the last 100 years. Just one. I'll wait.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=219495698&postcount=5298

Oh, FFS, I'm talking about when McGovern's running mate was dropped from the ticket after it was revealed that he had undergone electroshock therapy. Watergate didn't start really breaking until well into '73 when the election was over. Wake up.

You have complete lost touch with reality if you think women are going to show up for Trump after he JOKED ABOUT SEXUALLY ASSAULTING A WOMAN.

Seriously, like, do you even know any women?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=219498923&postcount=5442

Nope. I live in the heart of Trump country (upstate South Carolina). People here have been ecstatic about voting for Trump since he announced. I have serious doubts that you could find 10 Clinton yard signs within 20 miles of my house. So, no, I don't know a single hardcore Trump supporter.

I do, however, know quite a few women who live near me who have publicly stated today that they are either voting for Clinton or staying home on Election Day. But, hey, what do they know, right? They're just women.

Again, show me where history applies to this situation that is completely unique in the last 100 years.