Nintendo Switch Thread

[HardcoreRetro]

It's by the Bastion and Transistor people.

[mormapope]

Is Hades switch only? Why do people care about this game?

edit: Oh I thought it was F2P, miss me with that $20

Rogue lites are for people that's hogs last long and hit hard. 

[demi]

Yeah but we've seen your hog, I'm not sure a roguelike is for you

[mormapope]

It's not the size of the hog, it's the ferocity - Oscar Mayer

[Himu]

got mario 3d all stars physical

[daycru]

Really struggling with the star bit pointer controls for Galaxy, either jerky or just doesn’t work, tried both of my right joycons.

[Nintex]

Got my copy of Mario 3D All Ports 

[HardcoreRetro]

After 3 hours already halfway through Sunshine. Well, the main stars that is. Fuck the blue coin shit.

[Himu]

Control issues plague all three:

64 - Camera is still and it's now inverted. SAD.

Sunshine - I think they inverted FLUDD controls on top of the camera? Just doesn't feel as good or smooth as the original. Aiming FLUDD is to me.

Galaxy - With Pro control it exposes this game was made for the Wiimote and is not as smooth or as comfortable as the original. Playing it with the Joycons however is BLISS and easily the best way to play the game. Not only can you now spin with a button rather than shaking, you can easily point to get star bits too so it works as a beautiful medium between traditional and motion controls that were in the original.

Mario Galaxy exposes itself as the best of the bunch, once again, and is the star (hyuck hyuck) of the show. Still a perfect game.

[HardcoreRetro]

I also got some glitches in Sunshine I don't remember getting in original. Enemy spawned inside of a tree and I managed to get stuck in one of the segments of the sand bird.

[demi]

Got my copy and messed with some Mario 64. It runs pretty well enough

[Svejk]

They removed the 'Gay Bowser' line.  Trash port confirmed.

[Nintex]

I was all about playing Sunshine again but I booted up Super Mario 64 first, defeated the first Bowser, found the Wing Cap and collected 15 power stars in one sitting 

[Bebpo]

Is Hades switch only? Why do people care about this game?

edit: Oh I thought it was F2P, miss me with that $20

Yeah I still haven't played it either, but everyone says it's one of the real GoTY contender type games this year.

I mildly enjoyed Bastion and liked a bit of Transistor until I got distracted and never picked it back up. I skipped their next one since it was sports although someone gifted it to me and told me it was really good and a story-based single player game. And now everyone says this is their best game by far and amazing.

So basically I need to sit down for a weekend and catchup on Supergiant Games.

[bork]

They removed the 'Gay Bowser' line.  Trash port confirmed.

Pour one out.
 

But they didn't censor it- it's the Japanese re-release from '97 and Bowser is Koopa over there, so the line wouldn't make sense.
 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I also got some glitches in Sunshine I don't remember getting in original. Enemy spawned inside of a tree and I managed to get stuck in one of the segments of the sand bird.

Sunshine was a glitchy rushed game. There’s all kinds of shit like that in the original.

[Himu]

Odyssey has out classed all of these games to the point where all of them, even Galaxy, are hard to go back to.

Galaxy isn't as good as I remember it.

[Trent Dole]

The gen 5 3D Mario being better than 1-3 is hardly a revelation.

[HardcoreRetro]

I still like 64 and Sunshine the most. They just feel the best to play to me, even if the level design isn't the strongest. I also never found Galaxy to be that much fun. For people shitting on Mario 3D World, Galaxy was basically the start of that sort of design.

[Nintex]

Super Mario 64 is fun but I can see why Nintendo distributes this as limited time releases as opposed to something they want to define their library with. It really shows they had to start this 3D thing from scratch after their well-aged 2D games and at times it almost feels like they released a beta version. A lot of simple QOL improvements are missing obviously, but a lot of the mechanics are also under cooked.

I love it myself but there isn't much appeal for gamers of today to collect all the Power Stars. Remaking it opens a new can of worms because then it wouldn't be Super Mario 64 anymore. Because all the quirks and experimentation turn it into what it is.
Their time is better spend creating a new Super Mario game or doing what SEGA did with Generations and create a sort of Mario mash-up type of game with modern mechanics. In a way that was already covered in Odyssey though. With a Sunshine level and tons of references to classic Mario games.

Mario 64 really opened my eyes as to how far modern video games have come and how much they have improved.
I also after all this time finally understand why Nintendo opted out of Mario 128 or something like that for the GameCube.

Today I'm going to try my hand at Sunshine. I remember Mario controlled really smooth in that game so we'll see how that holds up.

[HardcoreRetro]

Shadow Mario doesn't seem to work right. He's supposed to paint Ms as you chase him. The sound effect plays, but no goop.

[daycru]

I still like 64 and Sunshine the most. They just feel the best to play to me, even if the level design isn't the strongest. I also never found Galaxy to be that much fun. For people shitting on Mario 3D World, Galaxy was basically the start of that sort of design.

A lot of Galaxy feels like an excellent version of 3D Sonic, on rails flinging from star to star bridged with some light platforming.

[HardcoreRetro]

Already beat the story in Sunshine after 6 hours of play...

[mormapope]

I'm gonna dig into Mario 64 today. Tbh, a game from 1996 that still holds up in regards to 3D control and feel is a rarity. 3D PS1 action games for example do not hold up well.

[Himu]

I'm gonna dig into Mario 64 today. Tbh, a game from 1996 that still holds up in regards to 3D control and feel is a rarity. 3D PS1 action games for example do not hold up well.

Ghost in the shell.

Boom.

[Great Rumbler]

All Marios are valid.

[bork]

I'm gonna dig into Mario 64 today. Tbh, a game from 1996 that still holds up in regards to 3D control and feel is a rarity. 3D PS1 action games for example do not hold up well.

Ghost in the shell.

Boom.

And the Jumping Flash games (From the same dev!), even though they're pretty basic.

[Svejk]

I'm gonna dig into Mario 64 today. Tbh, a game from 1996 that still holds up in regards to 3D control and feel is a rarity. 3D PS1 action games for example do not hold up well.

Ghost in the shell.

Boom.

And the Jumping Flash games (From the same dev!), even though they're pretty basic.

And both ripe for a VR remaster. 

[Nintex]

Super Mario Sunshine sure got a glow up but it is of course a much slower more padded game than Super Mario 64 which instantly throws you in the action.
Control wise indeed Mario controls buttery smooth but I miss the GameCube triggers more than I thought I would.

Fun game all around but already ran into some camera glitches in Ricco Harbor, so this is the real Sunshine experience(TM).
Collecting blue coins is much easier now and the game overall is much more accessible at higher resolution, allowing you to see far into the distance.

Played some Mario 64 again as well and again fun times. Still, I haven't changed my mind on it. It's a very simplistic experimental game, which is part of its strength but also a weakness in 2020.
Take a level like Jolly Roger Bay, which is nothing more than a small puddle of water and a cave. Not much interactivity going on with the ship either, which is a flat platform that floats on the water with that one weird skull box sliding on top of it.
Were it recreated in 2020 for Super Mario Odyssey it would have masts for Mario to climb and reach a crows nest and no doubt an interior. Already up to about 35 stars so I Also dipped my toes into some of the weird levels like Wet Dry World and Hazy Maze Cave.

[Let's Cyber]

Hades is legit. It's super addictive.

[Let's Cyber]

ok but Ocarina of Time on Christmas morning>>>>>

Being an older millennial 

[Human Snorenado]

64 really needs a full remake and I have no idea why they haven't done it especially in light of DS version having more features. This release of 64 is many ways a regression.

Please Understand™

[Himu]

Sunshine sucks.

[Great Rumbler]

I really love Sunshine's aesthetic and music, it's so calming and peaceful.

[Tuckers Law]

Only platforming Mario game I haven’t really cared for is NSMB2.  The rest I’ve found were either fun for me the first time around, or always fun.

[Himu]

I really love Sunshine's aesthetic and music, it's so calming and peaceful.

I love the aesthetic we well.

[Himu]

It's just not a good Mario. Here Mario 64 is with this flvast tool kit and moveset and in Sunshine you can't even long jump. So much is tied to FLUDD and its upgrades which completely upends the traditional Mario format of being able to turn to shit to gold with you're given. Then there's the fact so much relies on FLUDD that in many cases it's barely a platformer. Would be a great game if not a Mario game.

[Shaka Khan]

How many of you are playing Hades? This game is pure crack. I legit can't believe how excellent and polished it is. I say this as someone who's always been exhausted by how much Supergiant focused on story and dialog, but they nailed the rogeulike gameplay *and* sculpted a story/characters that *gasp* I'm interested in. My current GOTY.

[mormapope]

How many of you are playing Hades? This game is pure crack. I legit can't believe how excellent and polished it is. I say this as someone who's always been exhausted by how much Supergiant focused on story and dialog, but they nailed the rogeulike gameplay *and* sculpted a story/characters that *gasp* I'm interested in. My current GOTY.

I've put in about 10-12 hours since it released a few days ago. What makes it like crack is the people at Supergiant understand the most fun aspects of rougelikes, while mitigating ALL the frustrating parts. The amount of contextual and different dialog scenes alleviate repetitiveness and keep things fresh, every single run.

We've gone thru waves of really good rougelikes, but this is the new golden standard for the genre.

[Shaka Khan]

How many of you are playing Hades? This game is pure crack. I legit can't believe how excellent and polished it is. I say this as someone who's always been exhausted by how much Supergiant focused on story and dialog, but they nailed the rogeulike gameplay *and* sculpted a story/characters that *gasp* I'm interested in. My current GOTY.

I've put in about 10-12 hours since it released a few days ago. What makes it like crack is the people at Supergiant understand the most fun aspects of rougelikes, while mitigating ALL the frustrating parts. The amount of contextual and different dialog scenes alleviate repetitiveness and keep things fresh, every single run.

We've gone thru waves of really good rougelikes, but this is the new golden standard for the genre.

Yes! Also, the amount of persistent improvements/currencies across runs really balances things out while not negating the core Rogeulike structure. Like, I don't think I've had a single run that felt useless because of the stuff I brought back or events/dialogues I've triggered.

[Bebpo]

Yeah, bought it because the hype. Will try it sometime this week.

[Shaka Khan]

Yeah, bought it because the hype. Will try it sometime this week.

Unless you have a big thing against roguelikes- you won’t regret it!

[Himu]

i'll give it a shot

[mormapope]

Another aspect that was nailed, the soundtrack is excellent throughout. Quiet moments and during combat.



This song for the first couple of minutes is like a Bear McCreary song for Battlestar Galactica. And then ends up being something that'd belong in Doom.

 

[Himu]

Hades isn't bad. I'm pretty surprised because I dislike Supergiant games past efforts. They have this "talk too much" vibe combined with mindless hack and slash gameplay. They never clicked.

Hades is much better. It's still a hack and slash but it's fun and definitely not mindless. As a rogue like it's not entirely to my taste (I prefer turn based rogue likes such as Shiren over something like Binding of Isaac) but it's fun. If you like action based rogue likes with interesting settings I recommend it.

[Himu]

Speaking of shiren

https://m.

[Svejk]

Hades isn't bad. I'm pretty surprised because I dislike Supergiant games past efforts. They have this "talk too much" vibe combined with mindless hack and slash gameplay. They never clicked.

I so so soooo wanted to love Transistor...  Goddam drooled over the art nouveau art direction and the gameplay loop was fun enough.....  but holy shit... I couldn't stand listening to that fucking sword thing talk anymore.  Just STFU!!!  You don't sound cool!  Just stop already!  I never played Bastion, but learning that that "voice actor" did a voice in Bastion too?  Insta-pass.  Something about his voice is like nails down the chalkboard to me.
 

[Shaka Khan]

Do we know who’s responsible for the character art in Hades? They remind me of the 3DS MegaTen a lot. In a good way.

[Great Rumbler]

Do we know who’s responsible for the character art in Hades? They remind me of the 3DS MegaTen a lot. In a good way.

https://www.deviantart.com/jenzee

[Shaka Khan]

Do we know who’s responsible for the character art in Hades? They remind me of the 3DS MegaTen a lot. In a good way.

https://www.deviantart.com/jenzee

Interesting. It’s their in-house art director who worked on Transistor and Pyre. I guess they upped their game. The art is very elaborative and imaginative.

[Bebpo]

Played a couple hours of Hades. I like it and definitely has that one more run feel, but is there seriously no shortcuts and you have to start from the first world and redo all the bosses every run? I'm getting tired of fighting the first boss over and over already.

Got to the Bone Hydra in the second world. Was doing ok but the 2nd shielded phase with like 5-6 hyrdras all around was just too much spam to dodge and died >< Sticking to sword although my best run so far was with the bow.

Hmm, looking around the game is a lot shorter than I thought so I guess the repetition is less of an issue. I kinda assumed the game would be like 6+ worlds which would be a lot of floors & bosses to have to go through every time. Guess it's just about getting good at the few bosses there are.

[Bebpo]

Had a run where I got some crazy DPS stuff for the spears (3x attack on dash + attack buffs) and just took out the mini-hydras super fast. Got killed a few chambers into Elysium though, was not well setup for the shield guys with my dash spear attacks.

I have a feeling when I beat a run I'm going to be pretty much over this. It's cool, but it's only sorta my kind of game. I like rogues but only certain ones that click with me. Kinda surprised it's scoring as high as it is in the 90+ metacritic. It's good but I'm not seeing anything that overwhelming amazing about it besides the tons of combinations for attacks & abilities by mixing and matching all the boons which is cool and makes for interesting combat, but idk, I need something more than the game is giving me to stay compelling for more than a couple days.

[bork]

[Shaka Khan]

@Bebpo, yeah, you have start from the beginning. The game has a lot of layers that may obfuscate it's core, but it's intended to be a Rogeulike. Or Roguelite. Or whatever nerdy purists want to call it.

And like many other games in the genre, once you invest a bit more time and build up the arsenal of your permanent stat bonus and abilities, you can be in and out of the first level in under 9 mins (my current best time). I basically steamroll everything until Elysium right now.

[bork]

Smash Bros. Lite Kirby Fighters 2 - Out now for $20

[demi]

Mario's Picross is the bees nees

[bork]

[bork]

[Nintex]

Smash Bros. Lite Kirby Fighters 2 - Out now for $20

RIP Nintendie speculators who spend all day connecting the Kirby leak dots to a new Nintendo Direct 

[Joe Molotov]

I didn't even know there was a Kirby Fighters 1.