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Their articles are mostly "here's what Twitter says" and linking to late night youtube clips these days.
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Ayn probably would have written hundred part tweets hourly.

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Their articles are mostly "here's what Twitter says" and linking to late night youtube clips these days.

Top 1 Question Don Lemon has for Donald Trump (you won’t believe #1!)
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Yeah 9/11 woooo



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This book is hilarious, Bannon was gonna fucking box Christie in an elevator before a Trump interview.
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This guy has a long thread on the book.
https://twitter.com/PatBlanchfield/status/1037000161640230912

But yeah, it seems a bit sketchy at times. Especially because these sources (Bannon, Porter, Cohn, Priebus, Kellyanne, Graham(!) et all) seem as trustworthy as Trump himself.

Christie wasn't a source so all the Christie / Bannon episodes were fed to Woodward by .... Bannon
https://twitter.com/GovChristie/status/1039562106079723521

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Yeah 9/11 woooo

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They gonna let him drive the choo choo train

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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1039557961427902465

Jesus christ, that's gotta be up there with one of the dumbest ideas in recent history.  :doge
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This guy has a long thread on the book.
https://twitter.com/PatBlanchfield/status/1037000161640230912

But yeah, it seems a bit sketchy at times. Especially because these sources (Bannon, Porter, Cohn, Priebus, Kellyanne, Graham(!) et all) seem as trustworthy as Trump himself.

Christie wasn't a source so all the Christie / Bannon episodes were fed to Woodward by .... Bannon
https://twitter.com/GovChristie/status/1039562106079723521

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this is a nintex post
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“I think Puerto Rico was incredibly successful. Puerto Rico was actually our toughest one of all because it’s an island, so you can’t truck things onto it, everything’s by boat. We moved a hospital into Puerto Rico, a tremendous military hospital in the form of a ship. You know that. And I actually think and the governor has been very nice––if you ask the governor, he’ll tell you what a great job. I think probably the hardest one we had by far was Puerto Rico because of the island nature, and I actually think it was one of the best jobs that’s ever been done with respect to what this is all about.

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“I think Puerto Rico was incredibly successful. Puerto Rico was actually our toughest one of all because it’s an island, so you can’t truck things onto it, everything’s by boat. We moved a hospital into Puerto Rico, a tremendous military hospital in the form of a ship. You know that. And I actually think and the governor has been very nice––if you ask the governor, he’ll tell you what a great job. I think probably the hardest one we had by far was Puerto Rico because of the island nature, and I actually think it was one of the best jobs that’s ever been done with respect to what this is all about.

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Big league water.

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Wtf happened to Tim Kaine btw

All the true Kainiacs out there know he's just laying low for now, biding his time until he's ready to go into 2020 Beast Mode.
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Trump's ideas on water are even more weird than his ideas on everything else.
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Trump's ideas on water are even more weird than his ideas on everything else.
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The worst part of this is changing the flow of these rivers would already decimate a lot of land to boot on top of killing off the wildlife it's protecting so idk. None of it makes sense and it's all directed towards helping central valley growers who are already deeply republican.
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Any hot takes on the Ken Starr book? Debating on reading it.

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The Carolinas being wiped off the map should be good for democrats
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lately I've been noticing the total helplessness and steadfast obeisance Fox News has towards right wing propaganda outlets like The Daily Caller and The Washington Times by reporting on controversies the latter create out of thin air, which is readily observable because they happen to be the first ones to "report" it. Has it always been like this: where rogue hyperpartisan interests steer the boat and Fox feels obligated to give it leeway? Is this out of anticipation that the viewing audience will pick up on the controversy and demand coverage anyway, or is it because people like Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham have significant enough voices within the corporation as part of a right-wing thought vanguard? I don't have any specific examples because there are really so many.
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The Washington Times has always been part of the conservative vanguard against communist media bias. (Though I personally think it's become increasingly worse over the end of Bush years into the Obama years, it used to be a bit more of just a conservative spin on things with conservative columnists, much like Fox was. Though like Fox, the occasional white supremacist or something would sneak in, I don't feel like the Times would have been publishing regular stories about stuff like Seth Rich or a lot of its inflammatory-focused immigration restrictionist content 15+ years ago. It wasn't favorable to Pat Buchanan for example.)

I imagine a large part of the The Daily Caller's increased prominence on Fox comes from the fact that Tucker owns it. (Or did?) Plus it seems to be a key site for the "scoops" of the conservative press these days. Like it was the first site to dig out that Bill Kristol had finally decided to grab the Infinity Stones himself, and he actually replied back to it, even Democratic or progressive organizations will respond to its inquiries. Some of it isn't entirely terrible, like how BuzzFeed would always have those one or two semi-legitimate reporters, TDC has a few of those. It also has benefited from Hot Air's more prominent editorial voices regularly bashing Trump and running anti-Trump stories.

I think there's tensions within Fox because its original main sources for conservative voices like the Wall Street Journal are at best Trump-neutral on key issues, so are lots of the think tanks it used to mine, while the audience wants lots of Pro-Trump coverage. So they're having to turn to a lower tier of guest and source. Along with social media superstars like Diamond and Silk.

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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/09/julia-salazar-new-york-state-senate.html
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A state senate race that was once hailed as a test of the rising strength and power of insurgent socialists has devolved into a full-fledged New York City tabloid circus, featuring charges of lies, identify fraud, theft, and an affair with New York Mets legend Keith Hernandez.

And that was just last week.

Every time the life story of first-time state senate candidate Julia Salazar, 27, seems it can’t get any more convoluted, it does. First, questions were raised about her religious background and political affiliation, after it was revealed she grew up in a Christian family and was a registered Republican who led an anti-abortion group in college before running for office as a Jewish socialist. Then, her self-identification as an immigrant came under fire — she was born in Miami — and her own brother went to town on her claims that she is from a working-class background.
stupid easily accessible records are screwing up stuff for everybody these days

but maybe we'll finally get to the bottom of whether there was a second spitter

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I don't really know much about her, but going back to her genealogical history seems a little far-fetched to prove a point. It kind of makes me think the rest is a little less reliable when they start saying her ancestor way mayor of Bogota in 1824 and therefore she comes from a wealthy background.

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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1039915072263467008

I get this gross, creeping feeling whenever I am forced to acknowledge that the first family is intimately invested in the detritus of right wing online kek culture.
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Money cant buy class.

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Member when Trump's kids would run the business and wouldn't interfere with government?
"So what about the hurricane disaster relief"
"I see the government working from up close and have been personally involved myself"
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https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/09/12/leaked-video-google-leaderships-dismayed-reaction-to-trump-election/
I like how the video says: "CONFIDENTIAL - INTERNAL USE ONLY"
Also the gatherings at Google are as cult-like TED talkey as you'd expect them to be.
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Also the gatherings at Google are as cult-like TED talkey as you'd expect them to be.

I think every major corporation is like that. Even this hotel group I used to work for (Commune Hotels and Resorts) had conferences that are cult-like. The CEO would talk about all sorts of philosophical shit and life stories and how they informed her journey to being a mega rich corporate executive. I was like bitch, it's not that serious.


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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24090 on: September 13, 2018, 02:41:25 AM »
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24091 on: September 13, 2018, 03:16:28 AM »
NATO  :american
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24092 on: September 13, 2018, 08:50:12 AM »
Welfare states :trigger
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https://twitter.com/rodimusprime/status/1039358092075524096

The whole movement is like this. They have their one talking point and they are all in on it. Any deviation starts to gum up the works.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24094 on: September 13, 2018, 09:25:12 AM »
Christ. Every time I think we’ve hit bottom he figures out how to be shittier.

There’s a reason his support is faltering lately. I think this will accelerate it.

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24095 on: September 13, 2018, 09:56:07 AM »
Started listening to fear in the way to work and you start to understand why John Kelly might hav Elroy Rob Porter around.

There seems to have been a cabal of people around Trump that we’re collaborating to slow walk, subvert, an otherwise undermine his orders and Porter had the perfect position to contribute to that.

The whole thing really is frightening.

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24096 on: September 13, 2018, 09:56:33 AM »
Yes, piss off Puerto Ricans right before midterm election. Sound strategy.

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24097 on: September 13, 2018, 10:32:36 AM »
Yes, piss off Puerto Ricans right before midterm election. Sound strategy.

He loves Puerto Rico. Learn to read, Democrat scum.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24098 on: September 13, 2018, 11:31:08 AM »
This blue wave is some serious business
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24099 on: September 13, 2018, 01:47:45 PM »
Is this peak Trump?
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24100 on: September 13, 2018, 03:24:34 PM »
For today, maybe. :trumps
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24101 on: September 13, 2018, 03:45:58 PM »
Is this peak Trump?

only one way to tell. how viscous is your mucosa?

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24103 on: September 13, 2018, 05:48:59 PM »
I changed my party affiliation today.

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To Republican.  :doge
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Just kidding. I changed it to Socialist Party USA. :doge  :doge
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Actually, Democrat.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24104 on: September 13, 2018, 05:57:59 PM »
I don’t think Bloomberg has a prayer in the primary.

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« Reply #24105 on: September 13, 2018, 06:00:34 PM »
I don’t think Bloomberg has a prayer in the primary.

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« Reply #24106 on: September 13, 2018, 06:45:30 PM »
I don’t think Bloomberg has a prayer in the primary.
No, he has money.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24107 on: September 14, 2018, 12:23:28 AM »
I don’t think Bloomberg has a prayer in the primary.

His anti gun platform will resonate
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24108 on: September 14, 2018, 12:25:13 AM »
he'll get shot in the face by some gun nut, trump will laugh about it and still get reelected.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24109 on: September 14, 2018, 01:01:32 AM »
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1040290682416447488

I see why BEN SHAPIRO may be concerned about the SMALL part of the children Dianne Feinstein eats.

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« Reply #24110 on: September 14, 2018, 01:04:24 AM »
I don’t think Bloomberg has a prayer in the primary.

His anti gun platform will resonate

In 2016 he was upside down in favorability for both democrats and republicans in iowa when he was talking about running.

I just don't see what boxes Bloomberg really ticks. He's like Hillary with a dick. He doesn't clearly excite any particular group, have mass appeal, or anything notable about him as a candidate at all, really.

2018 nominee will be either booker or Kamala imo because they tick s lot of the right boxes for the Democratic party. Imo Kamala has the best shot if she runs, she's tough on trump, brown, woman, and has some positions that play towards the Bernie base.

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24111 on: September 14, 2018, 01:06:28 AM »
I don’t want some asshole taking away my 64-ounce Mountain Dews. Trump 2020.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24112 on: September 14, 2018, 01:40:46 AM »
Multi-term mayors of New York who get national profiles always consider themselves Presidential material I assume because of the distortion effect on their mayoralty within the national press (a common non-political example of this is how often storms that might get a minute on your local news become national news with around the clock coverage if they're in NYC), along with the fact that they travel and order around the "greatest city in the world" like a king.

Rudy probably would have wanted to have run for President without even 9/11 had he pulled off that Senate nomination and probably even if he hadn't. (And if he had beaten Hillary, well, he probably would have become Bush's post-9/11 designated successor.) The only reason La Guardia didn't run for President is because of FDR, he would have ran in 1940 but early learned about FDR's "secret" campaign that everyone else also knew about eventually. Wagner, Lindsay, Koch, and Bloomberg all toyed with it while they were mayor. de Blasio was reported to have been doing his own private polling on it before his popularity tanked in NYC itself.

Wagner's failed bid for Senate was intended as the first step to a 1960 Presidential campaign. Lindsay swapped parties to run for the 1972 Democratic nomination since Nixon was incumbent and he needed to use his perceived national popularity asap.

Ed Koch never said exactly what the polls he got back said, but he (along with supporting Reagan) said The People's Court was a much more realistic promotion for him. :lol

When Mario Cuomo ran for Governor instead of Mayor, the "wisdom" was that he was killing his Presidential chances. In many respects, the Mayorality has been treated post-war as far more of a prominent platform for a future presidential contender and the Governorship where you go to become a nobody. Which has never really made sense considering how many Governors have both become prominent nationally, become the nominee and even become the President. Whereas Rudy is actually the most successful presidential candidate to come out of the Mayor's Office. Since the first World War alone, the Governor's office has offered up Al Smith, FDR, Thomas Dewey, Averell Harriman, Nelson Rockefeller, Hugh Carey*, Pataki** and both Cuomos. And many of those dudes for many terms, like Rockefeller was Governor for Life and built that Fascist Scar across Albany.

*The conventional wisdom of the time was that Carey was a strong Democratic candidate in either 1976 or 1980, but his wife died and he essentially decided to retire from politics instead after his re-election.
**Okay, bad example. Especially since he's been pro-choice always. He probably should have ran in 2012 rather than waiting until ten years after he left office. (He had signed a truce with Rudy in 2008 that only one New Yorker would run and that Rudy was the obvious one. Why, I have no idea, it must be a New York thing. He apparently didn't run in 2012 because his polling was bad against Romney in all the primary states, which doesn't explain why he ran in 2016 considering it was probably even worse against that field. Maybe he assumed there was a big pro-abortion and pro-immigration GOP vote waiting for him in Iowa.)

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24113 on: September 14, 2018, 01:47:14 AM »
speaking of, the Cuomo/Nixon county map is kinda funny, it makes it look like she won people who might work for the State Government in Albany while he won everyone else:


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« Reply #24115 on: September 14, 2018, 03:03:30 AM »
If you learn one single thing at all from me Bore it should be that you always have this one weird trick: anytime anyone asks you anything about American history before 1900 just say "well, there were the tariffs for example but that can get complex..."

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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24116 on: September 14, 2018, 06:12:08 AM »
Progressive activist Cynthia Nixon on Thursday night lamented high voter turnout as a result of spending from her opponent New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D), who easily defeated her in the state's Democratic gubernatorial primary.
 
In a memo sent to reporters as polls closed, Nixon's campaign sought to justify their candidate's performance while blaming high voter turnout advocated by Cuomo as one reason she fell so far behind the incumbent Democrat.
 
Nixon's team cited what they called an "unconscionable influx in spending" from Cuomo's campaign, labor unions and the state Democratic Party, which Cuomo helps fund and which sent mailers critical of Nixon to voters across the state.
 
"The result of this unconscionable influx in spending is that turnout is extremely high throughout the state today," Nixon's team wrote in the memo. "This is likely due to two factors: tens of millions of dollars in advertisements from Andrew Cuomo pushing voters to the polls; and a desire on the part of prime Democratic voters to send a message to [President] Trump for the first time since his election."
 
Moments after she castigated spending leading to high voter turnout, Nixon's campaign also blamed New York election laws for low voter turnout.
 
Voting rights experts have in fact lambasted the Empire State for its restrictions on absentee and early voting, and for its frequent purges of its voter rolls, which often sweeps up regular voters.
 
Nixon's team said fewer polling hours in upstate New York, where they said their candidate polled better than in New York City, and reports of voting problems in New York City neighborhoods where Nixon polled better than anywhere else, had combined to squelch their vote.
 
"[P]olling places were open for fewer hours in many upstate counties than in New York City and its suburbs today. Cynthia routinely polled higher in upstate, while Cuomo’s strength was in the counties where polls were open before work. Finally, there have been rampant reports today that many voters in Cynthia’s base neighborhoods (eg, Brownstone Brooklyn) were unable to vote in their polling locations," the memo reads.
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Re: U.S. Politics Discussion Thread |OT| Hurricane coming, time to retweet Lou Dobbs
« Reply #24117 on: September 14, 2018, 06:34:23 AM »
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« Reply #24118 on: September 14, 2018, 08:54:03 AM »
Listening to more fear and I am reminded by the book about Hillary’s Wall Street speeches.

Remember how she wouldn’t release them for some reason? What on earth was she thinking around that?!

That has to be one of the worst-run campaigns in modern history.

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« Reply #24119 on: September 14, 2018, 08:55:57 AM »
Michael Avenatti Is Winning the 2020 Democratic Primary
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One month ago, Michael Avenatti—the Stormy Daniels lawyer, Donald Trump antagonist, and yes, potential 2020 presidential candidate—spoke at an Iowa Democratic Party fundraiser and declared to a cheering crowd that there was “no greater question facing our party and our nation” than “how” Democrats fight. He chastised Democrats for having “a tendency to bring nail clippers to a gun fight” when they should be fighting “fire with fire.” Avenatti is the lead storm chaser in a little-noticed front in the 2020 Democratic presidential campaign: Who can out-Trump the sitting president by going the furthest to break procedural “norms”?

Even if Avenatti has little chance of winning the nomination, he could still wreck the 2020 Democratic race. In fact he’s already doing it, by using his considerable media skills and political instincts to frame the contest around how far Democrats should go when wielding power, and to pressure his rivals to follow his cue. If we begin measuring candidates on the basis of who has the weakest attachment to the written and unwritten rules which have stabilized American democracy for centuries, the country will be in serious danger.

The reverberations from Avenatti became apparent during the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings for Brett Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court nomination, as two likely presidential candidates sought to prove their willingness to subvert norms. Sen. Cory Booker boasted about risking expulsion by releasing documents deemed classified by the Republican-led committee, to protest attempts to minimize access to Kavanaugh’s emails from when he worked in the George W. Bush administration. And Sen. Kamala Harris shared on Twitter a truncated video clip of Kavanaugh referring to birth control pills as “abortion-inducing drugs” that left off his attributing of the phrase to anti-abortion Catholic plaintiffs. Then when media fact-checkers called her out, Harris, seemingly following Trump’s “never apologize” philosophy, refused to admit error or recalibrate her charge.

The Democratic antics during the Kavanaugh hearings came on the heels of Avenatti issuing an ultimatum on Twitter: “In light of the [Merrick] Garland seat that was stolen, together with the events of today and the hiding of docs, etc., the court must be expanded to 11 seats after 2020. The Dem nominee must commit to this or not receive the nomination IMO.” During the hearings, Avenatti proceeded to bird-dog both Booker and Harris. In a two-tweet thread, which followed a dramatic interrogation of Kavanaugh by Harris that has failed to amount to anything, he cautioned: “I sincerely hope (1) those four docs that were released this morning by Mr. Booker really were still confidential, so he can prove the GOP is lying and (2) that Ms. Harris discloses the evidence of the communications she suggested last night exists and then eviscerates Kavanaugh. Because if not ... ”
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