US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[shosta]

Polygraphs are dumb

[agrajag]

I agree, and I said that in my previous post. But it's not nothing.

[Nintex]

Yikes, sounds like Kavanaugh is done. He might've gotten away with 'drunk teenagers do dumb shit' a few years ago but in the age of #metoo all that can help him is a huge deflection in the news cycle.

[kingv]

Polygraphs are dumb, but I think it’s still a good defense here for PR reasons.

Maybe it should not be, but plenty of people want to use the lack of a polygraph to say someone is lying.

[kingv]

Also they should use that pic of him in his football uniform more often. He looks like every rapey  guy in every teenage movie ever.

[agrajag]

Also they should use that pic of him in his football uniform more often. He looks like every rapey  guy in every teenage movie ever.

pics or it didn't happen

[agrajag]

Curly is right, the therapist notes are a big deal, much bigger than the polygraph. In a sane world, that would the nail in the coffin for this nomination, but well

 

[Mandark]

I don't expect this to change anything. It's too late to get another nominee through before the midterms (when they might lose the Senate) and another Federalist Society vote on the court is too important for them to leave to chance. Which is a bit depressing.

Even before this it was odd they didn't nominate a woman. Is there literally no female judge that passes the ideological test out there, or did they have to pick someone Kennedy was personally cool with, or are they (or Trump) just that sexist?

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/cbudoffbrown/status/1041407197148794883

They're going to push this through

https://twitter.com/axios/status/1041351922236776448

[Nintex]

The Fox News caption guy is having a field day 



Avennati: "Do you watch PORN?"

Tucker: "I'm into humilation porn. I watched you on CNN"

JESUS CHRIST TUCKER 

[agrajag]

I mean, what guy hasn't drunkenly held a woman against her will with his buddy, covered her mouth and raped her? Boys will be boys.

[kingv]

Also they should use that pic of him in his football uniform more often. He looks like every rapey  guy in every teenage movie ever.

pics or it didn't happen

https://goo.gl/images/W5pSNN

This link should work... probably.

[benjipwns]

Even before this it was odd they didn't nominate a woman. Is there literally no female judge that passes the ideological test out there, or did they have to pick someone Kennedy was personally cool with, or are they (or Trump) just that sexist?

There were some rumors that this was part of the deal for Kennedy to ditch early so the GOP could avoid any procedural delays. He may not have trusted Trump fully to not de facto impose a deadline on the nomination.

Personally, I don't think Trump actually gives much of a shit who he nominates for many of these positions.

[benjipwns]

  WE'RE SAVED, SHE'S BACK
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/american-democracy-is-in-crisis/570394/

American Democracy Is in Crisis
Our democratic institutions and traditions are under siege. We need to do everything we can to fight back.

HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON

...

Trump and his cronies do so many despicable things that it can be hard to keep track. I think that may be the point—to confound us, so it’s harder to keep our eye on the ball. The ball, of course, is protecting American democracy. As citizens, that’s our most important charge. And right now, our democracy is in crisis.

I don’t use the word crisis lightly. There are no tanks in the streets. The administration’s malevolence may be constrained on some fronts—for now—by its incompetence. But our democratic institutions and traditions are under siege. We need to do everything we can to fight back. There’s not a moment to lose.

Trump may be uniquely hostile to the rule of law, ethics in public service, and a free press. But the assault on our democracy didn’t start with his election. He is as much a symptom as a cause of what ails us. Think of our body politic like a human body, with our constitutional checks and balances, democratic norms and institutions, and well-informed citizenry all acting as an immune system protecting us from the disease of authoritarianism. Over many years, our defenses were worn down by a small group of right-wing billionaires—people like the Mercer family and Charles and David Koch—who spent a lot of time and money building an alternative reality where science is denied, lies masquerade as truth, and paranoia flourishes. By undermining the common factual framework that allows a free people to deliberate together and make the important decisions of self-governance, they opened the way for the infection of Russian propaganda and Trumpian lies to take hold. They've used their money and influence to capture our political system, impose a right-wing agenda, and disenfranchise millions of Americans.

I don’t agree with critics who say that capitalism is fundamentally incompatible with democracy—but unregulated, predatory capitalism certainly is. Massive economic inequality and corporate monopoly power are antidemocratic and corrode the American way of life.

There is a tendency, when talking about these things, to wring our hands about “both sides.” But the truth is that this is not a symmetrical problem. We should be clear about this: The increasing radicalism and irresponsibility of the Republican Party, including decades of demeaning government, demonizing Democrats, and debasing norms, is what gave us Donald Trump. Whether it was abusing the filibuster and stealing a Supreme Court seat, gerrymandering congressional districts to disenfranchise African Americans, or muzzling government climate scientists, Republicans were undermining American democracy long before Trump made it to the Oval Office.

Now we must do all we can to save our democracy and heal our body politic.

But even the best rules and regulations won’t protect us if we don’t find a way to restitch our fraying social fabric and rekindle our civic spirit. There are concrete steps that would help, like greatly expanding national-service programs and bringing back civics education in our schools. We also need systemic economic reforms that reduce inequality and the unchecked power of corporations and give a strong voice to working families. And ultimately, healing our country will come down to each of us, as citizens and individuals, doing the work—trying to reach across divides of race, class, and politics and see through the eyes of people very different from ourselves. When we think about politics and judge our leaders, we can’t just ask, “Am I better off than I was four years ago?” We have to ask, “Are we better off? Are we as a country better, stronger, and fairer?” Democracy works only when we accept that we’re all in this together.

Verrit.com could not be reached for a confirmation number.

[kingv]

Mi abuela!

[james]

Polygraphs are dumb

ya that polygraph stuff isn't very valuable

Polygraphs are dumb

I am glad we assembled an international panel of experts on polygraphs

[Nintex]

How did we get here?

because you lost the easiest winnable election in the history of elections to a literal dumpster fire Hilldawg.

[Mandark]

we have polygraph stans on the bore?

[benjipwns]

a simple way to tell there's a large methodological problem with polygraphs is that they don't even let cops use them as part of a defense in most jurisdictions anymore

[Joe Molotov]

I'm only into monographs.

[james]

a simple way to tell there's a large methodological problem with polygraphs is that they don't even let cops use them as part of a defense in most jurisdictions anymore

Who gives a shit about cops

[BisMarckie]

Who gives a shit about cops

Cops.

[benjipwns]

well i do about at least one

[benjipwns]

although he is also Canadian

[Joe Molotov]

although he is also Canadian

But who would untie Nell from the train tracks if he wasn't there?

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

a simple way to tell there's a large methodological problem with polygraphs is that they don't even let cops use them as part of a defense in most jurisdictions anymore

Who gives a shit about cops

https://m.

[kingv]

we have polygraph stans on the bore?

We have Qanon stans on the bore, let's not pretend we're above anything else.

Speaking of, I kind of feel like I need a Qanon update. Does anybody here follow this shot? Like what happened after that YouTubed got exposed as Q and the reddit got shut down?

I feel like it conpletely disappeared after that but I figure there’s still gotta be q drops and shit, right?

[benjipwns]

Speaking of, I kind of feel like I need a Qanon update. Does anybody here follow this shot? Like what happened after that YouTubed got exposed as Q and the reddit got shut down?

I feel like it conpletely disappeared after that but I figure there’s still gotta be q drops and shit, right?

It's like in Backdraft when the smoke gets sucked back into the room.

[Nintex]

Prepare for a big dump of fuckery
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1041801059096817664



Also Mueller just announced that the Flynn case is ready for sentencing.

[kingv]

You can already see the fuckery in the FISA declassification.

“Declassify these pages that make my case look ok, but ignore the ones that show carter page being an m a bukkake gangbang with Russian spies”

[benjipwns]

carter page being an m a bukkake gangbang with Russian spies”

go on

[kingv]

Well first carter page holds a bowl....

[Nintex]

George Papadopoulos is back MAGA-ing it up again.

https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1041739920967122946

It never ends.

https://twitter.com/APDiploWriter/status/1041819037200785409

Tariffs now official

[I'm a Puppy!]

If Obama had done these tariff's, even half of them, republicans would be rioting in the streets.

[Mandark]

This Kavanaugh thing is bringing out the skeeviest takes.

Saw John Podhoretz using the phrase "sweet raunchy delight" and I'm ready to walk into an active volcano now.

[curly]

This Kavanaugh thing is bringing out the skeeviest takes.

Saw John Podhoretz using the phrase "sweet raunchy delight" and I'm ready to walk into an active volcano now.

conservative pundits are deleting tweets at an unprecedented rate

[team filler]

 

[FStop7]

I got this fundraising email today.  Nothing says “we learned from our mistakes” like NEW FROM JIMMY CARTER.

[benjipwns]

Former President Jimmy Carter is doubling down on his recent comments labelling Donald Trump dishonest.

In a new interview with CBS News, Carter accused the president of being “careless with the truth.”

BOOM. ROASTED. TRUMP ANNIHILATED FOREVER.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Former President Jimmy Carter said Tuesday that talking about impeaching President Donald Trump is "the wrong thing for Democrats to do."

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[kingv]

I got this fundraising email today.  Nothing says “we learned from our mistakes” like NEW FROM JIMMY CARTER.

(Image removed from quote.)

Well the GOP brought Bush our tocampaign for them in Congress.

Dems has to level the playing field somehow.

Should’ve brought Dukakis out in a tank.

[shosta]

[Mandark]

"Oh hey, Mario Kart's trending on Twitter..."

[Nintex]

... 
https://twitter.com/Slate/status/1042062274427580416

[Joe Molotov]

[Madrun Badrun]

Wouldn't surprise me if we still would have. 

[Nintex]

Texas Senate GE:
Ted Cruz (R-inc) 54% (+9)
Beto O'Rourke (D) 45%

@QuinnipiacPoll9 9/11-17
https://t.co/T23AmUl7Q2 #TXsen

 

[james]

Texas Senate GE:
Ted Cruz (R-inc) 54% (+9)
Beto O'Rourke (D) 45%

@QuinnipiacPoll9 9/11-17
https://t.co/T23AmUl7Q2 #TXsen

 

hIllArY wIll wiN gEORgiA

[Steve Contra]

If Trump pardons Manafort they get to haul him back to court 

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/18/manafort-deal-pardon-mueller-trump-827898

[kingv]

Manafort didn’t have to sign it.

[Van Cruncheon]

i just popped 'round for some treasure tracking

[studyguy]

GOP 2020 platform made up of not rapist, pedos... still working on the racist parts tho. Progress I guess.
 

[Steve Contra]

Texas Senate GE:
Ted Cruz (R-inc) 54% (+9)
Beto O'Rourke (D) 45%

@QuinnipiacPoll9 9/11-17
https://t.co/T23AmUl7Q2 #TXsen

 

I don't doubt that Cruz is comfortable, but a poll that shows Cruz winning by the exact same margin as Trump in 16 *may* have a few issues.

[Nintex]

Texas Senate GE:
Ted Cruz (R-inc) 54% (+9)
Beto O'Rourke (D) 45%

@QuinnipiacPoll9 9/11-17
https://t.co/T23AmUl7Q2 #TXsen

 

I don't doubt that Cruz is comfortable, but a poll that shows Cruz winning by the exact same margin as Trump in 16 *may* have a few issues.

From what I've read the GOP has a consistent margin in Texas when it comes to elections.
A state that consistently elects Ted Cruz . . . maybe this is what keeps Dems at home.
They figure that if Ted Cruz has won a couple times, voting is futile and winning the state is nothing short of the 8th wonder of the world.
Does Ted actually do a good job for his own state? All I see is him twirling in federal politics and failing to run for President twice in a row.

[Mandark]

Texas hasn't elected a Democrat to the Senate since 1988, hasn't elected a non-incumbent Dem since 1970, and hasn't voted Democratic for president since 1976. In the last 30 years the margin of Senate races has been mostly in the 12-22% range. It's a very Republican state.

How do you post so much here without knowing any of the basics of US politics, or learning some of them by osmosis?

[Nintex]

Red State or not, this is Ted Cruz we're talking about.

He would be repulsive on any ticket.
If he was an authoritarian supreme leader he wouldn't get 99% of the vote. Some of his own party members would rather choose prison or death than to vote for Ted Cruz.
So the question is, what is he doing for his state that makes him at least popular enough that no primary challenger has upended him and the Democrats haven't been able to beat him.

Texas is a red and pro-gun state, sure. But it also seems to be a Ted Cruz state. For some weird reason.

Oh and Ted Cruz isn't even an American or Texan, he's a Canadian. 

[Steve Contra]

The amount of effort required to find out why Ted Cruz is popular in Texas is so very, very low.

[Nintex]

The amount of effort required to find out why Ted Cruz is popular in Texas is so very, very low.

When you google: "Why is Ted Cruz popular" the first real result is:

Why do so many people hate Ted Cruz? - Telegraph

Even the Google AI hates ted cruz.

[Great Rumbler]

Texans would rather vote for Satan than a Democrat [but I repeat myself].

[Nola]

Not sure why the polygraph is where some people are getting hung up, the fact that she has had corroborated therapist notes from 2012 and was willing to place a third person at the scene(who despite pressure is so far still refusing to deny the incident up to this point) moves the scale toward the credible side quite a bit to me. The polygraph is just some lagniappe.

[james]

Not sure why the polygraph is where some people are getting hung up, the fact that she has had corroborated therapist notes from 2012 and was willing to place a third person at the scene(who despite pressure is so far still refusing to deny the incident up to this point) moves the scale toward the credible side quite a bit to me. The polygraph is just some lagniappe.

On top of that, unless she is Elon Musk, inviting the FBI to conduct an investigation means she is confident that her background is clear and his is dirty.