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« Reply #10200 on: October 31, 2017, 08:17:11 AM »
MMS?  Did you mean M&M's?  They melt in your pockets, not in your hands. 

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« Reply #10201 on: October 31, 2017, 08:20:57 AM »
Daou makes more cogent points in an hour than you've made in your life you useless fuck.

Dude, we get it, you want your tongue all the way in Hillary's wrinkly ass.
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« Reply #10202 on: October 31, 2017, 08:24:13 AM »
You get that meme from a rage against the machine fansite? deep shit bro

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« Reply #10203 on: October 31, 2017, 08:42:12 AM »
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« Reply #10204 on: October 31, 2017, 09:00:39 AM »
Some guy named George just showed up and started working on the campaign. No one even knew who he was, or where he kept getting all the vodka.
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« Reply #10205 on: October 31, 2017, 09:41:44 AM »
I'm going to make up the actual statistic because this is the internet but I swear the jist of it is true but something like 85% of all vodka sold in the United States isn't from Russia, even Stoli is from Latvia, and like half of it is from Kentucky.

You know who else is from Kentucky? Abraham Lincoln!

And who was Abraham Lincoln's Secretary of State, like HILLARY CLINTON WAS TO OBAMA? William Seward.

And what was "Seward's Folly" in myth? Buying Alaska from RUSSIA.

And here's the check he used to pay for it:


There's also THIS FACT:
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In Alaska, Alaska Day celebrates the formal transfer of Alaska from Russia to the United States, which took place on October 18, 1867. Alaska Day is a holiday for all state workers

Gentleman, I rest my case. I also note that Sarah Palin WARNED US.

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« Reply #10207 on: October 31, 2017, 12:38:21 PM »
Long piece on John Boehner: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/29/john-boehner-trump-house-republican-party-retirement-profile-feature-215741

Act III is where you get to his thoughts on the political scene today.

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Boehner believes Americans are ill-informed because of their retreat into media echo chambers, one of two incurable causes of the country’s polarization. Another is inextricably related: the unwillingness of lawmakers to collaborate across the aisle, for fear of recriminations from the base.

Boehner says the fact he and Obama golfed together only once—and agreed that it was usually better for him to sneak into the White House—speaks to how the two parties punish compromise. He doesn’t foresee this toxic political climate improving, ticking off potential fixes—term limits, redistricting reform—that he says won’t make a bit of difference. “It’s going to take an intervening event for Americans to realize that first, we are Americans,” he says. An intervening event? “Something cataclysmic,” he responds, gazing upward.

It's kind of interesting to read the thoughts of the older politicians who remember the days of cooperation (70's, 80's) and their concerns over a new generation that will never know it is a possibility.




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« Reply #10208 on: October 31, 2017, 01:25:37 PM »
I liked the part where he was just like "Fuck Chaffetz, Fuck Gowdy."
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« Reply #10209 on: October 31, 2017, 01:33:49 PM »
I liked the part where he was just like "Fuck Chaffetz, Fuck Gowdy."

He says "Gowdy is my guy"

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« Reply #10210 on: October 31, 2017, 01:48:25 PM »
:violin

I don't have patience for boner's hindsight bullshit. He took every opportunity to go on faux news and spew his bs talkingpoints.

Remember when he said that Obamacare passing would be Armageddon?  :doge

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« Reply #10211 on: October 31, 2017, 01:54:32 PM »
I see the media circus is keeping people entertained.


Moreover, Manifort is not some oddball in Washington, he is representative of most lobbyists.  They are filthy guns-for-hire that work for whoever pays them.  Why is the fact that the only reason he got caught was because of a unique series of events and not systemic protection against this sort of slimduggery not the cause of outrage?  Oh yeah, because this is political theatre.

What was the most noteworthy thing I saw in MMS in the last last week?  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/22/opinion/americas-forever-wars.html?_r=0  America’s Forever Wars[kudos to the nyt for printing this, very few MMS even acknowledge the extent of the US global Empire, let alone criticise it].  So the US has armed troops in at least 172 countries...UN has 189 member states, so that works out to 89%. 

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Maybe if I let someone else explain the deception and complicity:




https://hbr.org/1995/05/why-the-news-is-not-the-truth


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« Reply #10212 on: October 31, 2017, 02:16:06 PM »
Every time I read the #boba on this thread I think of this song:


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« Reply #10213 on: October 31, 2017, 02:26:39 PM »
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« Reply #10214 on: October 31, 2017, 02:59:25 PM »
So is it common knowledge that BLM took a 100 million dollar grant from the Ford Foundation, with strings?  Like, how many of these 'grassroots' orgs are beholden to the ultra-rich?  That Seattle Bernie Sanders thing makes way more sense now.

God you are trash.

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« Reply #10215 on: October 31, 2017, 03:09:14 PM »
So is it common knowledge that BLM took a 100 million dollar grant from the Ford Foundation, with strings?  Like, how many of these 'grassroots' orgs are beholden to the ultra-rich?  That Seattle Bernie Sanders thing makes way more sense now.
I googled "ford foundation blm" and Snopes is literally the second result.

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« Reply #10216 on: October 31, 2017, 03:09:36 PM »
Long piece on John Boehner: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/10/29/john-boehner-trump-house-republican-party-retirement-profile-feature-215741

Act III is where you get to his thoughts on the political scene today.

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Boehner believes Americans are ill-informed because of their retreat into media echo chambers, one of two incurable causes of the country’s polarization. Another is inextricably related: the unwillingness of lawmakers to collaborate across the aisle, for fear of recriminations from the base.

Boehner says the fact he and Obama golfed together only once—and agreed that it was usually better for him to sneak into the White House—speaks to how the two parties punish compromise. He doesn’t foresee this toxic political climate improving, ticking off potential fixes—term limits, redistricting reform—that he says won’t make a bit of difference. “It’s going to take an intervening event for Americans to realize that first, we are Americans,” he says. An intervening event? “Something cataclysmic,” he responds, gazing upward.

It's kind of interesting to read the thoughts of the older politicians who remember the days of cooperation (70's, 80's) and their concerns over a new generation that will never know it is a possibility.

Our political system is fucked. Even when its people just pointing it out for self serving reasons. At this point the best you can do is enjoy the downward slide.

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« Reply #10217 on: October 31, 2017, 03:19:25 PM »
So is it common knowledge that BLM took a 100 million dollar grant from the Ford Foundation, with strings?  Like, how many of these 'grassroots' orgs are beholden to the ultra-rich?  That Seattle Bernie Sanders thing makes way more sense now.
I googled "ford foundation blm" and Snopes is literally the second result.
That just proves Google's adaptive algorithms have concluded you are a MSM shill that is overly reliant on so-called "fact checkers" that are really just trying to oppress the real truth about their complicity and tacit cooperation of the capitalist overlords and the single party war mongering government.



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« Reply #10218 on: October 31, 2017, 03:46:12 PM »
I liked the part where he was just like "Fuck Chaffetz, Fuck Gowdy."

He says "Gowdy is my guy"

 :ufup

Sorry, it was Jim Jordan that he also hated.
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« Reply #10219 on: October 31, 2017, 03:57:51 PM »
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« Reply #10220 on: October 31, 2017, 04:00:41 PM »
Read the actual article you posted. Then read the Snopes entry. Then compare that with what you posted in this thread.

I believe in you. You can do this.

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« Reply #10221 on: October 31, 2017, 04:11:28 PM »
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« Reply #10222 on: October 31, 2017, 04:13:47 PM »
I didn’t say Ford Motor Company.

You said they were "beholden to the ultra-rich." Let's not play dumb here.

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« Reply #10223 on: October 31, 2017, 04:14:38 PM »
Don't think he's playing dumb

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« Reply #10224 on: October 31, 2017, 04:17:23 PM »
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« Reply #10225 on: October 31, 2017, 04:25:56 PM »
You take money with strings, you are beholden.

Citation fucking needed.

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« Reply #10226 on: October 31, 2017, 04:27:30 PM »
I didn’t say Ford Motor Company.

You said they were "beholden to the ultra-rich." Let's not play dumb here.

You take money with strings, you are beholden.  God the paranoia here.

Edit:
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/black-panthers-think-black-lives-matter/

I thought it was interesting.  Too bad I can’t trust his facts.

When facts aren't facts, you are better off not believing them.

Good rule of thumb to live by.

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« Reply #10227 on: October 31, 2017, 04:30:16 PM »
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« Reply #10228 on: October 31, 2017, 04:33:32 PM »
You take money with strings, you are beholden.

Citation fucking needed.

http://ascdwc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/www.fordfoundation.org_pdfs_grants_grant-application-guide.pdf

“ A Countersigned Grantee Letter. This letter establishes a range of grant conditions. Every grantee is required to sign it.”

Do I pass or am I stil a piece trash?

Grants vs donations. How do they work??  :idont

But you still seem to have not read the pretty short Snopes piece that has quite a bit of relevant context.

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« Reply #10229 on: October 31, 2017, 04:38:40 PM »
We've gone from "Billionaire capitalists have used their money to turn BLM into an anti-Bernie Sanders puppet organization" to "a charitable nonprofit audits its potential grant recipients to ensure legitimacy and compliance with tax law."

Really broke this scandal wide open here.

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« Reply #10230 on: October 31, 2017, 04:46:24 PM »
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« Reply #10231 on: October 31, 2017, 04:46:46 PM »
It's almost bigger a bigger scandal than:

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« Reply #10232 on: October 31, 2017, 04:57:10 PM »
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« Reply #10233 on: October 31, 2017, 04:59:21 PM »
I thought it was common knowledge that the movement got highjacked a long time ago.  Have you seen this link?

https://www.factexposure.com/articles/1998/black-lives-matter-ex-kgb-vodka-payment-hollywood-israel-is-real/

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« Reply #10234 on: October 31, 2017, 05:02:54 PM »
But taking money from rich folks and hassling the progressive, non wall street canditade is a bad look to me.
It's not "rich folks" it's a nonprofit foundation that's not associated with the owners of Ford and hasn't been for years.

The "strings" you posted are the bare minimum due diligence any foundation would do to avoid fraud or running afoul of the IRS.

The organization receiving the Ford Foundation's grant, The Movement For Black Lives has a page on their site on economic justice. Read it. It's a laundry list of leftist priorities.

A bad look is being so eager to discredit black activists that you parrot rightwing FUD to do so.

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« Reply #10235 on: October 31, 2017, 05:20:55 PM »


Borealis, the management company used by Ford F lists them as a grantee.  And what context?  People wanted to boycott ford?  Or is there another snopes piece that explains things?

 I don’t get where the anger is coming from.  Grassroots movements get co-opted all the time.  Is blm co-opted? Idk.  But taking money from rich folks and hassling the progressive, non wall street canditade is a bad look to me.
No one is angry, most people were just snarking it up until you kept wanting to push the conspiracy.

So lets just get this all straight.

The Ford Foundation, a philanthropic group that no longer has any ties or obligations to the Ford Motor Company has established a joint effort to provide funds for The Movement for Black Lives because they believe in the work they are doing. A very large umbrella rights advocacy organization for numerous black and left-wing economic justice causes. The only conditions or strings you have provided are bare minimum requirements primarily for tax and legal purposes and have still provided zero evidence proving some sort of co-opton or nefarious quid pro quo present in the relationship....Let alone qualifying just what these shady nefarious aims of the Ford Foundation are to begin with? I guess rich people are all evil therefore something something?

One group that has a relationship with the larger umbrella group, that took issue with Bernie Sanders' lack of outward focus on their concerns(and Clinton I might add) is not evidence of anything of the sort you have implied to this point. Nor is the pathways of support your self-proclaimed dirty MSM outlet quoted.
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« Reply #10236 on: October 31, 2017, 08:52:27 PM »
"Any customer can have a protest movement painted any color that he wants so long as it is black." - Henry Ford

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« Reply #10237 on: October 31, 2017, 10:26:27 PM »


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« Reply #10238 on: October 31, 2017, 10:27:59 PM »
also, it's now radical mohammedist jihadi terror, please update your phrases that you refuse to say as part of your leftist-islamist alliance lieberals like de blasio-cuomo-obama-clinton-snowden who gutted our security

hat tip: pamela geller


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« Reply #10240 on: October 31, 2017, 10:31:31 PM »
Kimmel was right. Right wing news is littered with nothing but failed, bitter actors posing as "journalists".
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« Reply #10241 on: October 31, 2017, 10:33:49 PM »
So no FBI trick or treaters for Trump Jr. I am disappoint.  :doge :goty

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« Reply #10243 on: October 31, 2017, 10:38:27 PM »
please don't quote Soviet psyops propaganda in this thread thanks

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« Reply #10244 on: October 31, 2017, 10:52:15 PM »
ok quote feature ate that


Breh: you embarrassed yourself just now

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« Reply #10245 on: October 31, 2017, 10:55:39 PM »
I love how Assange made his own blue checkmark because twitter wouldn't give him one.

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« Reply #10246 on: October 31, 2017, 10:55:52 PM »



Mailer from a county executive campaign in Long Island.

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« Reply #10247 on: October 31, 2017, 11:03:37 PM »
lmao john podesta sweating bullets on twitter rn
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« Reply #10248 on: October 31, 2017, 11:04:32 PM »
Kimmel was right. Right wing news is littered with nothing but failed, bitter actors posing as "journalists".
Typical attack from the CLINTON-WEINSTEIN-KIMMEL-SPACEY-ROSS Hollywood network that's just jealous that Let There Be Light is setting box office records by providing a proud American Christian story.

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« Reply #10249 on: October 31, 2017, 11:13:20 PM »
lmao john podesta sweating bullets on twitter rn

https://twitter.com/johnpodesta/status/925404705051770880

The replies to this tweet
Benji pls

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« Reply #10250 on: October 31, 2017, 11:26:14 PM »
Really surprising that the citizen investigators who cracked the Pizzagate case missed all these other sexual assault scandals, but you can't be everywhere at once.

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« Reply #10252 on: November 01, 2017, 12:03:18 AM »
ok quote feature ate that


Breh: you embarrassed yourself just now

Still stroking that "it wasn't the Russians" narrative I see.



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« Reply #10253 on: November 01, 2017, 12:34:13 AM »
you joe_zazen dude, sorry, we have a "only one etiolate per forum" rule bruh

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« Reply #10254 on: November 01, 2017, 12:53:05 AM »
you joe_zazen dude, sorry, we have a "only one etiolate per forum" rule bruh

They're only gonna get worse as more Trumpers get arrested.

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« Reply #10255 on: November 01, 2017, 01:02:48 AM »
lmao john podesta sweating bullets on twitter rn

https://twitter.com/johnpodesta/status/925404705051770880

The replies to this tweet
Benji pls
lmao i was waiting for someone to post that tweet
imagine actually getting your news from alex jones though :hans1
at least you'd be swole i guess  :sabu
XO

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« Reply #10256 on: November 01, 2017, 10:12:50 AM »
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Nah, just more dumb and broke.
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« Reply #10257 on: November 01, 2017, 10:29:59 AM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/925534445393928199

This is the problem with starting out with Extreme Vetting, where do you go from there? Do you just put more X's in it, eXXXtreme Vetting? It's like when we had the Terror Alert system, but it was just always on Red. Spinal Tap figured this out in the 80's, and yet we're still running into this problem, smh.
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« Reply #10258 on: November 01, 2017, 10:40:00 AM »
you joe_zazen dude, sorry, we have a "only one etiolate per forum" rule bruh
He wiped out all of his posts. :doge

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« Reply #10259 on: November 01, 2017, 10:51:09 AM »
This is the problem with starting out with Extreme Vetting, where do you go from there? Do you just put more X's in it, eXXXtreme Vetting? It's like when we had the Terror Alert system, but it was just always on Red. Spinal Tap figured this out in the 80's, and yet we're still running into this problem, smh.
Obviously the next step is Secret Extreme Vetting. Then after that is Double Secret Extreme Vetting. Duh.