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I studied Marxism at THE Islamic State University.

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lol at the title. Come on guys. Republicans are going to mop up this year. Don't underestimate. Democrats poked a bear.

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I just hope the Republicans don't see this thread title. #dontpokethebear
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too late, just sent this to my Two of The Koch Bros. masters as coming from the vile hive of Democratic Party operatives who fight for progressive policy every day:
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Thank you, for not brothering all the Koch's
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i won't violate the restraining order without a good reason tbh
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Looking forward to making some conservative bowties spin with my derivative humor. :-*

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Hot take here fellas but I think Corey Stewart might be racist.
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she has the 'crazy eyes'.

it's about time we got our own version of michelle bachmann :noah

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I had missed this, apparently most Democrats have taken the bait.
All they need to do is NOT TALK about Space Force and it'll die a slow death. But it's everywhere now because the media can't ignore it.

 :lol
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Space Force is dead regardless of Dem response.

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Plot twist in the Manafort case.

Manafort was working for US and EU interests and against Russian interests.

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Manafort, the hero we need.
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https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1027729430137827328
Yassss drag him queen

Manafort, the hero we need.
The plot to Metal Gear Solid 6
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Plot twist in the Manafort case.

Manafort was working for US and EU interests and against Russian interests.

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It's not really a plot twist.

Manafort was chasing $$$, he didn't give a shit where it came from. Wind blows the other direction, and he winds up supporting some Euro shit.

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Yeah, it was discussed back when he first joined the campaign but Manafort is a globe trotting networker. Back in 2013 French justice looked into him and his participation to the failed 1995 presidential bid by then Prime Minister Balladur (littered with all manners of occult financing). A single short article by France Inter, who calls him a "spin doctor" lists among his contacts :

Ziad Takkiedine, a similar French shadow lobbyist and middle man.
Abdul Rahman el-Assir, same as above, from Lebanon. Manafort is the godfather of his son apparently, and introduced him to Colony Capital. El-Assir claims to have paid Manafort as a consultant on US politics back then and would pass the insights to the Saudi riyal falily.
El-Assir says Manafort introduced him in 1988 to Benazir Bhutto, then Prime Minister of Pakistan.
And I believe there's many others, on top of his US and Ukrainian contacts. I doubt he's the kind of guy who limit himself to one client at a time.

The weirdest part in all of this is that he accepted an official position (and high profile too)in the campaign, really.
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It would be amazing if Manafory was
1) reccomended by Russia
2) constantly warned Trump not to get mixed up wth then
3) trump ignored him and ordered him to work with them

 That said, there’s also stories about Mueller suggesting to Yanukovych to open fire on the protesters. So finding a source that says “no he was actually pro-West “ doesn’t really clear things up.

Edit: also highly possible that Manafort was highly pro-West until running into money troubles and then slowly got wrapped up wth thewrong people.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/10/omarosa-trump-book-the-apprentice-memoir

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Donald Trump is a “racist” who has used the “N-word” repeatedly, Omarosa Manigault Newman, once the most prominent African American in the White House, claims in a searing memoir.

The future US president was caught on mic uttering the taboo racial slur “multiple times” during the making of his reality TV show The Apprentice and there is a tape to prove it, according to Manigault Newman, citing three unnamed sources.

Trump has been haunted from around the time of his election in 2016 by allegations that outtakes from the reality TV show exist in which he is heard saying the N-word and using other offensive language.

In her book, Unhinged, a copy of which was obtained by the Guardian ahead of its publication next week, the former Apprentice participant insists that the reports are true, although she does not say she heard him use the word herself.
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At the time, she writes, she felt a “growing realization that Donald Trump was indeed a racist, a bigot and a misogynist. My certainty about the N-word tape and his frequent uses of that word were the top of a high mountain of truly appalling things I’d experienced with him, during the last two years in particular.”

Recalling her sudden and unceremonious departure, she writes: “It had finally sunk in that the person I’d thought I’d known so well for so long was actually a racist. Using the N-word was not just the way he talks but, more disturbing, it was how he thought of me and African Americans as a whole.”
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https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2018/08/09/michael-avenatti-iowa-wing-ding-president-exploring-run-caucus-2020-stormy-daniels/935636002/
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Michael Avenatti has arrived in Iowa.

After three canceled flights and a 700-mile road trip, the lawyer known for representing adult film actress Stormy Daniels in her case against Republican President Donald Trump, is ready to put his stake in the ground in the first-in-the-nation caucus state.

"I’m exploring a run for the presidency of the United States, and I wanted to come to Iowa and listen to people and learn about some issues that are facing the citizens of Iowa and do my homework," Avenatti told the Des Moines Register in an interview Thursday.

Avenatti, who rose to prominence as an outspoken critic of the president, toured the Iowa State Fair Thursday posing for selfies with fans. He is scheduled to speak at the Democratic Wing Ding fundraiser Friday night in Clear Lake.
:american WE'RE SAVED! :american
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I guess we can already take bets on the Presidential Tweets as the book release date will get closer and closer...
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Oh and she also alleges Trump used racial slurs when talking about Kellyanne Conway husband who's half-Filipino. Lovely.
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That said, there’s also stories about Mueller suggesting to Yanukovych to open fire on the protesters.

huge if true
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Her district is like 80-20 Dem.
Though it should be assumed she's the favorite, it is probably worth noting that Crowley is still on the ballot for the Working Families Party and has stated he won't remove himself. In 2014 he got twice the number of votes in the general as total people voted in the primary in 2018. He still has $1.2 million in his campaign account.

Perhaps most vitally of all, he has Joe Lieberman's endorsement.
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Lol Omarosa is such a grifter
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Lol Omarosa is such a grifter

It's in the gop SOP.
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https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-friends-guest-democrats-have-to-import-illegals-for-votes-after-stunting-black-population-growth-with-abortion/

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“A lot of people in the black community are recognizing that the Democrat party is throwing them overboard for illegal aliens,” Salcedo on Fox & Friends. “The Democrat party has been so good at promoting abortion inside of the back community — has been so good about curtailing the population of the black community it’s no longer a growing demographic in this country as compared to the rest of the country.”

He continued: “So the Democrats see their future of importing illegal aliens from all over the world into this country and those in the black community here in the United States are witnessing the Democrat party chucking them overboard and then have you got Donald Trump coming in with a prosperity message basically saying hey, look, what have you got to lose?”


Importing illegal votes and forced abortions.
Huge if true.
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lol at the title. Come on guys. Republicans are going to mop up this year. Don't underestimate. Democrats poked a bear.

A Russian bear?

Anyway, the Republicans will absolutely lose 10+ seats in the house and gain no more than 2 in the Senate (and that’s really because the map this year is just really bad for Democrats).

20+ seats in the House, and they will not make a net gain in the Senate. In fact they’re basically guaranteed a net loss of at least 1 at this point.

Dems could very easily flip both chambers.
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https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-friends-guest-democrats-have-to-import-illegals-for-votes-after-stunting-black-population-growth-with-abortion/

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“A lot of people in the black community are recognizing that the Democrat party is throwing them overboard for illegal aliens,” Salcedo on Fox & Friends. “The Democrat party has been so good at promoting abortion inside of the back community — has been so good about curtailing the population of the black community it’s no longer a growing demographic in this country as compared to the rest of the country.”

He continued: “So the Democrats see their future of importing illegal aliens from all over the world into this country and those in the black community here in the United States are witnessing the Democrat party chucking them overboard and then have you got Donald Trump coming in with a prosperity message basically saying hey, look, what have you got to lose?”


Importing illegal votes and forced abortions.
Huge if true.

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Salcedo went on to say that conservatives can win over minorities by simply “talking directly to the folks” and “bringing the prosperity message that the Republican Party has been so timid and shy at bringing into these communities.”

Conservatives are always so timid and shy about sharing their amazing ideas with the rest of us.  :-[
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It's just too bad the prosperity message doesn't yield actual prosperity.  :'(
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The 2020 Democratic primaries will be such a clown show

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- Avenatti
- Bob Iger
- Clinton (because why not)
- Joe Biden (diamond Joe!)
- Bernie Sanders (in a wheelchair)
- Pocahontas
- Kamala Harris (and VP Ellen Degeneres)
- Michael Moore (because why not)
- Bloomberg
- Zuckerberg (might as well have big data on your side)
- Corker
- Oprah (although Trump knows her weakness...)
- Ocasio Cortez (god willing)
- Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson (obviously)
- Mulvaney(?)

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Avenatti it's time to stahp
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The Rock is a Republican dawg

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Is Ted Cruz even still a politician? The video of him cold-calling for Donald Trump while covered in flop sweat should have been the last time anyone had to hear from him.
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Is Ted Cruz even still a politician?

Hopefully not after November.

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I wouldn't put even money on Beto though  :stahp

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DNC reversed its ban on accepting donations from the fossil fuel industry, 30-2.

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 ::)
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The DNC is full of fossils, so it makes sense.
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The DNC is full of fossils, so it makes sense.

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Bernie is 95 years young

Kara

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The DNC is full of fossils, so it makes sense.

Ageism is incorrect thought. :ufup

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DNC reversed its ban on accepting donations from the fossil fuel industry, 30-2.

You radicals and your black & white naive framing, please.  ::) It's a “Resolution Reaffirming the DNC’s Unwavering Commitment to Workers and Unions in Industries that Power the American Economy, and Expressing the Democratic Party’s Appreciation of their Profound Contributions to Our Party, Our Nation’s Economy, and Our Way of Life.”
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I find Ted Cruz's twitter comebacks to be pretty pretty pretty good, all things considered. He (or the staffer) actually responds to stuff like that and often with a playful/topical joke. You don't expect that kind of humanity from the Zodiac Killer really.

They won't ever turn anyone into a corn cob but they are often worth a sensible chuckle. If I had to follow an elected Republican on Twitter, he wouldn't be the worst choice. Because there'd also be the unintentional comedy.
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Good incest porn too.
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https://twitter.com/sheckyyoungman/status/1027629752318709760
She should take this one. One, you get a free baconator which is alright. And two, to see if they could actually yell "Venezeula" for three straight hours.
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I find Ted Cruz's twitter comebacks to be pretty pretty pretty good, all things considered. He (or the staffer) actually responds to stuff like that and often with a playful/topical joke. You don't expect that kind of humanity from the Zodiac Killer really.

They won't ever turn anyone into a corn cob but they are often worth a sensible chuckle. If I had to follow an elected Republican on Twitter, he wouldn't be the worst choice. Because there'd also be the unintentional comedy.


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Keith Ellison accused of abusing an ex-girlfriend. FB post is by her son.

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IIRC, when he ran for DNC chair(? maybe it was after?) there were whispers about that in some of the lower Opportunity Democrat circles but nobody really followed up thinking it was just standard rumormongering. I remember an accusation that Pelosi's office was "suggesting" it to "journalists" possibly when Ellison was talking about running for Speaker/Minority Leader.

On a random note, he's a lot older than I assumed, 55. Thought he was like 40ish.
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omarosa taped John Kelly In the situation room

 :neogaf

The recording of her own firing :
https://twitter.com/RobertMaguire_/status/1028639104328716288
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Only the worst people, folks, believe me. Did I say "best" ? Must have misspoke.
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This is amazing

Kelly: "So we're letting you go because of issues with your integrity but we won't make a big fuss about it so you can keep your reputation and all that"

Omarosa: "John Kelly threatened to ruin my reputation so I secretly taped him firing me inside the White House!"

Jesus this lady is dumb  :crazy
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https://mobile.twitter.com/SeanForgotAgain/status/1028006854952214529

Posting for reference just in case a certain someone starts posting Kirk's bullshit claims as fact.
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Just wait until Omarosa releases the tape of Eric Trump and some Russian embassy workers voting for his dad multiple times with false voter data.
See libruls, voter fraud is real!
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Yeah, it's not like anyone else in Trump's circle is known to tape people or to threaten to have tapes of them.
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Keith Ellison accused of abusing an ex-girlfriend. FB post is by her son.

Missouri's governor was brought down by a victim's ex-husband. Curious how a son does.
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This might be enough to throw the primary. Not sure I believe it until I see the receipts though.

Apparently more than one local news outlets declined to run the story because they couldn’t confirm it.

Hopefully the son gets some mixtape sales out of it?!

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Lol omarosa... at some point being a professional snake will stop netting income, and taking recording devices into a room I’m guessing spends 90% of its day at TS/SCI at a minimum is not going to garner much trust w future employers.  :doge