Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 7854504 times)

Tripon · « **Reply #48000 on:** February 02, 2020, 11:11:06 AM »

Rivals warn Sanders campaign plans to game Iowa results

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CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa — Rival campaigns are sounding the alarm that Bernie Sanders could be planning to claim victory on Monday night — before the caucuses are concluded.

It’s a move, they say, that could have a significant effect on the outcome.

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Sanders and his team have made clear their intention to tout the results of the first round of caucus voting Monday, even though the Iowa Democratic Party stresses that the only number that matters is the final delegate count.

Aides with two top-tier campaigns told POLITICO they worry the Sanders campaign or other pro-Sanders forces — which will be receiving unofficial precinct results from allies in real time — will disseminate that information through social media or publicly claim victory after the first vote, an act that could distort the eventual results in a variety of ways.

A claim of victory after the first vote could encourage supporters of weaker candidates to leave the caucuses early without realigning with another candidate. Or it could create an artificial bandwagon effect by encouraging some caucus-goers to jump to Sanders’ side under the belief that he will be the victor.

Either scenario stands to hurt the campaigns that are more reliant than Sanders on the realignment round that happens after the first preference vote is cast. During realignment, supporters of candidates who failed to hit a 15 percent threshold in the first vote are freed up to switch to another candidate.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/02/berniesanders-campaigniowa-results-110318

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #48001 on:** February 02, 2020, 11:18:36 AM »

Look out, he’s gonna try to win!

Trurl · « **Reply #48002 on:** February 02, 2020, 11:27:02 AM »

Lots of people are saying that Politico is shit.

Transhuman · « **Reply #48003 on:** February 02, 2020, 11:31:06 AM »

So they are basically admitting Bernie will win

james · « **Reply #48004 on:** February 02, 2020, 11:33:06 AM »

Based bernie

https://mobile.twitter.com/lhfang/status/1223661638907117569

Trurl · « **Reply #48005 on:** February 02, 2020, 11:57:29 AM »

How do you even say "latinx?" It seems like a word that could only exist in letters.

Tripon · « **Reply #48006 on:** February 02, 2020, 12:07:07 PM »

Quote from: Trurl on February 02, 2020, 11:57:29 AM

How do you even say "latinx?" It seems like a word that could only exist in letters.

Latin-x.

Nintex · « **Reply #48007 on:** February 02, 2020, 12:28:43 PM »

Quote from: Trurl on February 02, 2020, 11:57:29 AM

How do you even say "latinx?" It seems like a word that could only exist in letters.

It's like Mega Man X but without Mega Man

How Broken is CNN you ask?

Nintex · « **Reply #48008 on:** February 02, 2020, 01:16:55 PM »

Bloomberg destroyed

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1223973472554176514

https://twitter.com/tparti/status/1223998769915727878

https://twitter.com/tperry518/status/1224021794522165248

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #48009 on:** February 02, 2020, 01:43:28 PM »

b e a s t

kingv · « **Reply #48010 on:** February 02, 2020, 02:01:05 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on February 02, 2020, 12:07:07 PM

Quote from: Trurl on February 02, 2020, 11:57:29 AM
How do you even say "latinx?" It seems like a word that could only exist in letters.

Latin-x.

Is that really how they say it? Wild.

I always figured it was la-teenks, but much prefer la-twinks

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #48011 on:** February 02, 2020, 02:12:53 PM »

Quote from: kingv on February 02, 2020, 02:01:05 PM

la-teenks, but much prefer la-twinks

Sounds like a term made by Los Angeles twinks

Tripon · « **Reply #48012 on:** February 02, 2020, 02:15:46 PM »

Latin is the root word. Why would a new suffix change the root word pronunciation?

Trurl · « **Reply #48013 on:** February 02, 2020, 02:27:49 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on February 02, 2020, 12:28:43 PM

Quote from: Trurl on February 02, 2020, 11:57:29 AM
How do you even say "latinx?" It seems like a word that could only exist in letters.
It's like Mega Man X but without Mega Man

You mean Mega Man 10.

Goodnight everybody!

Tripon · « **Reply #48014 on:** February 02, 2020, 02:32:58 PM »

https://twitter.com/philosophrob/status/1224014468407009280

2024 Presidential Election is going to be wild.

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #48015 on:** February 02, 2020, 02:34:02 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on February 02, 2020, 02:15:46 PM

Latin is the root word. Why would a new suffix change the root word pronunciation?

Potatoes potatoh

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #48016 on:** February 02, 2020, 02:34:31 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on February 02, 2020, 02:15:46 PM

Latin is the root word. Why would a new suffix change the root word pronunciation?

You’re a root word.

EightBitNate · « **Reply #48017 on:** February 02, 2020, 03:12:20 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on February 02, 2020, 02:32:58 PM

https://twitter.com/philosophrob/status/1224014468407009280

2024 Presidential Election is going to be wild.

https://twitter.com/heyneyer/status/1224043802861756417

Nintex · « **Reply #48018 on:** February 02, 2020, 03:15:52 PM »

https://twitter.com/MikeBloomberg/status/1224037920568418305

Apart from swinging at Trump, Mike's Superbowl ads focus on the school shootings.
This would be one nasty campaign between two NY Billionaires settling a score.

Quote from: shosta on February 02, 2020, 03:13:57 PM

$75 - Tulsi Gabbard

About 5k in Rubles so it checks out.

Trurl · « **Reply #48019 on:** February 02, 2020, 03:34:30 PM »

I hate this president.

HOw does this even work for him? Aren't a lot of his supporters short?

Nintex · « **Reply #48020 on:** February 02, 2020, 03:37:54 PM »

Quote from: Trurl on February 02, 2020, 03:34:30 PM

I hate this president.

HOw does this even work for him? Aren't a lot of his supporters short?

It works because everyone will look at Bloomberg's debates thinking: "Gee this guy is rather short" or "Is he really standing on a box?"
In a sort of "Once you see you can't unsee" way. The same way Trump destroyed Jeb! with the low energy jab.

Also Trump's attack has double the effect. Because he didn't just attack Bloomberg's height, but also the thing he could do (and the likes of Hillary did) to look 'taller'.
Mike can't bring out the box now so he has no way to look taller.

Oh and CNN takes the bait, because they always do:
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1224000362648084481

Trurl · « **Reply #48021 on:** February 02, 2020, 03:45:29 PM »

He could own the box I guess. Stand on a glass box with Trump's severed head inside of it.

They say that the Dutch are the tallest nationality in the world.

Nintex · « **Reply #48022 on:** February 02, 2020, 03:52:16 PM »

Quote from: Trurl on February 02, 2020, 03:45:29 PM

He could own the box I guess. Stand on a glass box with Trump's severed head inside of it.

They say that the Dutch are the tallest nationality in the world.

That's true about the Dutch, I'm about 6'1.

But owning it is what Jeb! tried by bringing his mother on the campaign trail.

Nintex · « **Reply #48023 on:** February 02, 2020, 03:58:35 PM »

Quote from: shosta on February 02, 2020, 03:52:52 PM

So... 6'0"

6 ' 0 '' = 182.88 centimeters

6 ' 1 '' = 185.42 centimeters

I'm 184

Nintex · « **Reply #48024 on:** February 02, 2020, 04:13:39 PM »

Quote from: shosta on February 02, 2020, 04:10:13 PM

I knew you were the type to round up

6'0 or 6'1 it doesn't really matter to me. But when I asked how it would translate, they said it would be 6'1

And even though I'm above average in height even here in The Netherlands there's also plenty of people taller than me.
My brother is 6'2 and a guy at work easily 6'3.

How tall are you?

Nintex · « **Reply #48025 on:** February 02, 2020, 04:19:15 PM »

Quote from: shosta on February 02, 2020, 04:15:42 PM

Same height as Putin, Lenin, and Lil Wayne

5'7 then. Well, that's taller than Mini Mike

Raist · « **Reply #48026 on:** February 02, 2020, 04:20:30 PM »

Just wait till shotststa hits puberty tho.

Nintex · « **Reply #48027 on:** February 02, 2020, 04:24:35 PM »

https://twitter.com/business/status/1224064833412354051

These people are absolutely shameless

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #48028 on:** February 02, 2020, 04:30:00 PM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heights_of_presidents_and_presidential_candidates_of_the_United_States

fortunately, Bernie is no distinguished vertically-challenged fellow

team filler · « **Reply #48029 on:** February 02, 2020, 04:31:40 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on February 02, 2020, 02:32:58 PM

https://twitter.com/philosophrob/status/1224014468407009280

2024 Presidential Election is going to be wild.

bernie so cheap

typical j...

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #48030 on:** February 02, 2020, 04:32:04 PM »

Nintex · « **Reply #48031 on:** February 02, 2020, 04:33:33 PM »

Quote from: shosta on February 02, 2020, 04:24:57 PM

Quote from: Nintex on February 02, 2020, 04:19:15 PM
5'7 then. Well, that's taller than Mini Mike
Wait, I thought Putin was 5'5". He's the same height whenever he stands next to Merkel!

Google says he's 5'7 but if it doesn't say that there's probably no more Google

team filler · « **Reply #48032 on:** February 02, 2020, 04:35:33 PM »

Quote from: ExoYZA on February 02, 2020, 03:56:41 PM

Quote from: shosta on February 02, 2020, 03:13:57 PM
$75 - Tulsi Gabbard

We both know filler would pay the backpage 300$

I could always get it for lower than the advertised pricing

nachobro · « **Reply #48033 on:** February 02, 2020, 04:49:16 PM »

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/john-kerry-overheard-discussing-possible-2020-bid-amid-concern-sanders-n1128476

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Asked about the call later on Sunday, Kerry said that he was "absolutely not" contemplating joining the Democratic primary race.

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Himu · « **Reply #48034 on:** February 02, 2020, 04:49:58 PM »

John Kerry?!

team filler · « **Reply #48035 on:** February 02, 2020, 05:24:18 PM »

https://twitter.com/tparsi/status/1224092740025188365

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #48036 on:** February 02, 2020, 05:57:02 PM »

https://twitter.com/petworthot/status/1222869965889470465

Cauliflower Of Love · « **Reply #48037 on:** February 02, 2020, 05:59:27 PM »

stealing the cum?

Nintex · « **Reply #48038 on:** February 02, 2020, 06:03:17 PM »

John Kerry vs Trump

Nintex · « **Reply #48039 on:** February 02, 2020, 06:08:05 PM »

https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1224082805405167618

team filler · « **Reply #48040 on:** February 02, 2020, 07:00:03 PM »

the trumps super bowl commercial

Trurl · « **Reply #48041 on:** February 02, 2020, 07:57:26 PM »

Something that crossed my which I think is true: Sanders is unique in that he gets attacked by Trump for his ideas. That has to be a good sign, right?

Mandark · « **Reply #48042 on:** February 02, 2020, 08:02:12 PM »

if you're a socdem who thinks trump has good political instincts, then trump seeing bernie's ideas as a liability would be bad

Trurl · « **Reply #48043 on:** February 02, 2020, 08:30:26 PM »

More that he doesn't have anything else that he can get him on.

Edit: Ok, you got me, Mandark.

Wait, it's good because Bernie's policies are actually popular. The most superficial things that you could make fun of Sanders (hair, waving arms) are more like a trademark so he sort of has Trump like armor there. He's perceived as authentic and honest so that closes other lines of attack. Calling him a socialist is a bit of a so what.

Mandark · « **Reply #48044 on:** February 02, 2020, 08:55:36 PM »

Quote from: Trurl on February 02, 2020, 08:30:26 PM

Wait, it's good because Bernie's policies are actually popular.

well that's why I qualified it: if we think trump's canny about this stuff it's a bad sign, if he's not and it's actually popular then it's all good

personally I don't think trump's political judgment is so special we have to defer to it, but also bernie fans tend to be overly bullish on how much public support his program has

Trurl · « **Reply #48045 on:** February 02, 2020, 08:56:13 PM »

And medicare for all. Left wing policies are popular. It's the people supporting them who are not. It's the point Ralph Nader has been making for over 20 years.

Mandark · « **Reply #48046 on:** February 02, 2020, 08:59:50 PM »

bernie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ralph

Mandark · « **Reply #48047 on:** February 02, 2020, 09:04:44 PM »

could Esch even invent a hypothetical more damning to american electoralism than the ostensibly left-wing protest candidate writing a book called "only the super-rich can save us?"

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #48048 on:** February 02, 2020, 09:19:56 PM »

not really, just got a bunch of middlemen siphoning funds
I don't really like it when people call it "free healthcare", it makes it sound unreasonable when it is really just a universal health plan handled by someone who doesn't need to grow profits quarter after quarter or screw you over

is it perfect? no
but it is sure a hell of a lot better than whatever else

Mandark · « **Reply #48049 on:** February 02, 2020, 09:27:17 PM »

"m4a has to be popular, it's objectively good!"

oh my sweet summer child

Trurl · « **Reply #48050 on:** February 02, 2020, 09:30:10 PM »

Quote from: shosta on February 02, 2020, 09:06:50 PM

M4A is a crapshoot once you tell people you have to raise taxes or they lose their current insurance. On the bright side, elections aren't all about policies, and Bernie himself is an affable person that people do like.

I think the selling point for people with insurance from their employer is that you could change jobs or not lose insurance if you are fired. It would do a lot to change the power dynamics in the work place.

I actually have fairly good insurance while having an otherwise shitty job thanks to working at a unionized grocery store. It seems like during every contract negotiation the fear of changing the insurance policy contributes a lot to everyone being too fearful to actually bargain for something good. It also contributes to a division between people are concerned about their insurance and new hires who might just want a living wage. It's not the only thing weakening the union (tiered contracts based on seniority and the oldest, most reliable voters only being concerned about maintaining what they already have is the biggest issue) but it's part of it.

Edit: my biggest concern about actually implementing m4a (because I'm a crazy person) is what it will do to all of the poor middlemen. Honestly, wouldn't it really suck to work for Allstate the day that we manage to pass m4a? There's a lot of losers anytime you change a major policy like that. But the same could be said for people who work in the justice department and legalizing things like marijuana, but it's a poor reason to keep something unjust because it gives somebody job security.

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #48051 on:** February 02, 2020, 10:03:49 PM »

Quote from: Trurl on February 02, 2020, 09:30:10 PM

Edit: my biggest concern about actually implementing m4a (because I'm a crazy person) is what it will do to all of the poor middlemen. Honestly, wouldn't it really suck to work for Allstate the day that we manage to pass m4a? There's a lot of losers anytime you change a major policy like that. But the same could be said for people who work in the justice department and legalizing things like marijuana, but it's a poor reason to keep something unjust because it gives somebody job security.

obviously the deathpanels are hiring

team filler · « **Reply #48052 on:** February 02, 2020, 10:23:37 PM »

https://twitter.com/OrganizingPower/status/1224170296644640768

TEEEPO · « **Reply #48053 on:** February 02, 2020, 10:26:58 PM »

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #48054 on:** February 02, 2020, 10:33:06 PM »

Thank you, Kansas City 49ers for your great comeback against the Miami Chiefs.

team filler · « **Reply #48055 on:** February 02, 2020, 11:40:19 PM »

OnlyRegret · « **Reply #48056 on:** February 02, 2020, 11:44:03 PM »

why do crackers have to make out with their kids and their dog

Tuckers Law · « **Reply #48057 on:** February 02, 2020, 11:45:51 PM »

thisismyusername · « **Reply #48058 on:** February 02, 2020, 11:46:01 PM »

https://twitter.com/cushbomb/status/1224081113464868864

https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1223786294867873792

Me to NeoLiberals right now:

Himu · « **Reply #48059 on:** February 03, 2020, 12:25:15 AM »

Praying for Sanders Iowa win so hard

News:

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