Author Topic: Holy Shit Death Stranding is beautiful nonsense (Read 140586 times)

Svejk · « **Reply #900 on:** January 08, 2020, 07:37:29 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on January 08, 2020, 04:04:00 AM

Man, I just found out Del Toro, Refn and all the preppers are dubbed by professional voice actors and I feel betrayed. I thought they did their voices! Thought Refn was a surprisingly good actor. The prepper's surprise me too. They had time to visual capture Edgar Wright by he can't record 20 lines of dialogue?

Yeah, listening to DeadMan throughout the game, I was always thinking... "no... he doesn't speak English THAT well....". Sure enough in the credits, different voice actor.

paprikastaude · « **Reply #901 on:** January 08, 2020, 09:15:33 AM »

All his friend hologram cameos are dubbed too. Shockingly enough, Junji Ito probably isn't fluent in American English.

bluemax · « **Reply #902 on:** January 08, 2020, 10:58:28 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on January 08, 2020, 04:12:17 AM

Quote from: bluemax on January 07, 2020, 01:39:25 AM
Thinking about going back to this game just makes me tired. Playing it never felt fun, it always felt like work.

I can't relate to this at all. I get some people feel this way hence it being so polarizing, but can't relate. i guess it's like how some genre like rts and battle sims like total war aren't fun at all to me. Everyone enjoys different things.

For sure, I follow Kojima's english translated twitter and see all the times he retweets people saying how much they love this etc and I don't think negatively of these people. It's cool that they all found something that resonated so strongly with them.

One of my all time favorite games is an extremely polarizing game as well, so I feel it would be hypocritical as well.

Bebpo · « **Reply #903 on:** January 08, 2020, 11:15:04 PM »

Quote from: Spieler1 on January 08, 2020, 09:15:33 AM

All his friend hologram cameos are dubbed too. Shockingly enough, Junji Ito probably isn't fluent in American English.

Neither is Geoff, I guess?

chronovore · « **Reply #904 on:** January 08, 2020, 11:52:08 PM »

Quote from: Svejk on January 08, 2020, 07:37:29 AM

Quote from: Bebpo on January 08, 2020, 04:04:00 AM
Man, I just found out Del Toro, Refn and all the preppers are dubbed by professional voice actors and I feel betrayed. I thought they did their voices! Thought Refn was a surprisingly good actor. The prepper's surprise me too. They had time to visual capture Edgar Wright by he can't record 20 lines of dialogue?
Yeah, listening to DeadMan throughout the game, I was always thinking... "no... he doesn't speak English THAT well....". Sure enough in the credits, different voice actor.

It is likely nothing to do with whether or not they can act well enough to be in a videogame and more about having time available to deal with story changes and being able to grab consistently sourced audio in the right environment at the right time: it's just scheduling.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #905 on:** January 09, 2020, 12:11:36 AM »

I think Conan did his voice, but then again he did'nt have that much and he is'nt the one that really speaks at his bunker.

I think it is a mix of time and talent.

Pissy F Benny · « **Reply #906 on:** January 10, 2020, 05:47:53 PM »

Why is this game so addictive, I’m saying to myself fuck you Kojima there’s no way I’m trekking back across this mountain range again when I’ve talked to mama you better jump me back, to gladly trekking across the mountains again

Bebpo · « **Reply #907 on:** January 10, 2020, 06:36:32 PM »

I was reading that Shinkawa designed Chvrches costume for the live performance in the game awards. Pretty cool, Shinkawa is <3

Been listening to the soundtrack a lot since finishing it. Great stuff.
Also watched all the trailers since I never saw them. The final trailer is great but holy shit it spoils everything. Kojima been spoiling his games in trailers for years. One reason I stay in media blackout for them.

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on January 09, 2020, 12:11:36 AM

I think Conan did his voice, but then again he did'nt have that much and he is'nt the one that really speaks at his bunker.

I think it is a mix of time and talent.

I wonder if it's a guild thing too? Because Conan is an actor and all the actors that act are actors, but everyone else who makes an appearance but doesn't act like Geoff and the directors aren't actors.

But yeah, probably a timing thing. Though I can't imagine there's too many script change worries with the prepper stations since all they say is generic "thanks Sam!" and their actual conversations are in emails.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #908 on:** January 10, 2020, 10:50:54 PM »

Sometimes I don't even think it's script changes and whatnot, but studio space, booking adr time, and having the audio professionals when recording happens, and rent time. People like Refen and Del Taro are probably pretty busy and schedules may not line up. For someone like Troy Baker this is his job and he's going to make time for an important gig.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #909 on:** March 03, 2020, 04:48:13 PM »

Relevant/Topical:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/03/magazine/hideo-kojima-death-stranding-video-game.html

thisismyusername · « **Reply #910 on:** July 13, 2020, 10:28:49 PM »

Pre-loaded.

Time to see the train-wreck of Kojimbo's Magnum Opus for myself.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #911 on:** July 13, 2020, 10:33:50 PM »

I don't think I ever hated playing a game more.

thetylerrob · « **Reply #912 on:** July 14, 2020, 02:37:39 AM »

I actually feel bad for you. I fuckin loved this game and I’ll probably buy it again.

Sending many likes to everyone

El Babua · « **Reply #913 on:** July 14, 2020, 03:58:53 AM »

Will this game be a prelude of our dark future like MGS2 was?

I'll find out at 10 cause they decided that 12AM isn't the right time to unlock a year-old game on the day of its release smh

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #914 on:** July 14, 2020, 04:12:44 AM »

I mean we were relying heavily on transport men for everything for a few months.

VomKriege · « **Reply #915 on:** July 14, 2020, 06:16:06 AM »

Kojimbo, please do something colourful and cute you're our only hope.

Svejk · « **Reply #916 on:** July 14, 2020, 09:21:14 AM »

If I had a 21:9 monitor, I'd be all up in this game again.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #917 on:** July 14, 2020, 11:52:56 AM »

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on July 14, 2020, 04:12:44 AM

I mean we were relying heavily on transport men for everything for a few months.

America still is cause we're run by evil fuckwits.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #918 on:** July 14, 2020, 12:28:02 PM »

Actual Spoilers for those that care

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#MakeAmericaCremateAgain

Opening is full of "what the fuck is going on

" with the "timefall, DOOM, CHIRAL!!!!!" terms going on. I don't think I've seen the codex yet and I'm set to deliver the above. So I guess I'll check the watch/handcuff thing later today to see if the codex is in there to explain some shit to me. But Kojima diving deep into the world without building it is a little

for getting folks on-board.

I didn't mind the opening, but I can definitely see why it'll be divisive with folks. The delivery/balance mechanic is meant for you to take things "slow," and not just rush around and BIONIC PUNCH! like MGS6/Phantom Pain.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #919 on:** July 14, 2020, 03:50:25 PM »

Im waiying for the denuvo free build to check it out but i might buy it on a sale if its any good

BisMarckie · « **Reply #920 on:** July 14, 2020, 03:54:27 PM »

Imstalling denuvo

Installing rootkits by Russian crack groups

MMaRsu · « **Reply #921 on:** July 14, 2020, 04:58:46 PM »

I love them Ruskies, what can I say

Don Rumata · « **Reply #922 on:** July 14, 2020, 04:59:06 PM »

Quote from: MMaRsu on July 14, 2020, 03:50:25 PM

Im waiying for the denuvo free build to check it out but i might buy it on a sale if its any good

Better put on some good coffee, if you plan to wait up.

MMaRsu · « **Reply #923 on:** July 14, 2020, 05:15:55 PM »

Well I have RDR2 and it doesn't use that Denuvo sheit I believe.

There are still a bunch of D games uncracked tho

Nintex · « **Reply #924 on:** July 14, 2020, 07:06:27 PM »

PC version looks great, almost makes me want to pick it up, but it's better to wait for a sale.

BikeJesus · « **Reply #925 on:** July 14, 2020, 07:41:11 PM »

Well I sank 8 hours into this today. Really enjoying it. I set up a button on my Steam Controller to be rapid fire for giving Likes, and can give almost 400 at once

. Also set up a button to toggle both triggers to be held so I don't have to keep holding them manually. I work with my hands and holding the triggers hurts my fingers. Fucking love Steam Input.

Story is weird, as expected. Can't remember the last time I played for such a long period in one day.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #926 on:** July 14, 2020, 09:06:03 PM »

What's with all the loose cargo going to the places I just went to on the way to the place I'm going?

Kojimaaaaaaa this backtracking...

I haven't gotten a five star yet. I'm still in the "tutorial" phase despite being in "Chapter Two"/scene 2.

Quote from: BikeJesus on July 14, 2020, 07:41:11 PM

I set up a button on my Steam Controller to be rapid fire for giving Likes, and can give almost 400 at once

How is that possible? I thought you could only give one like per thing?

BikeJesus · « **Reply #927 on:** July 14, 2020, 09:07:57 PM »

No, you can keep tapping the select button to give more likes as the little bar decreases. I set a button to turbo the select button while held to spam all the likes.

thetylerrob · « **Reply #928 on:** July 14, 2020, 09:19:21 PM »

Loose cargo is usually cargo that's been dropped by other players that didn't bother picking it up. I think in the tutorial starting areas they just spawn a bunch of it to teach you about it. There will be more and more ways to deal with this stuff later so don't get too bogged down backtracking the early deliveries.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #929 on:** July 15, 2020, 12:01:53 AM »

Who's a goddamn idiot?

I'm a goddamn idiot

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Protip: Don't think "Oh, I can just overload my bike and myself, it'll be fine." 1) The bike slows down 2) You slow down. 3) You run into BT's and can't outrun them apparently (much to my dismay as I did that a few times)

Now I have a shit ton of cargo to haul back to the last "strand" for the first area and a BT area that completely fucks me over.

Anyway:

Bridges people make.

Generators

Vehicles

thisismyusername · « **Reply #930 on:** July 15, 2020, 08:26:53 AM »

Reloaded a save like five points back because the game auto-saves at terminals or if you squat/rest.

(Also the infamous PS4 save-file blowing up is in the PC version. Why doesn't the Decima engine/Kojima allow us to delete saves? I guess for recovery/screwing up purposes like mine but still... geez, I have saves going back yesterday morning)

Kojima!!!!

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Kojima...

(Norman or whoever they modeled the body on has no ass.)

Only on Master Race edition™

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Finished the first actual boss of the game. The weapon combat so far is pretty wonky. I haven't gotten guns (which Kojima showed off in E3 demos?) yet, so the battle was "climb up and throw things at it" and then you pick up the "used" parts of it, but you can use those again even though I have a mountain of blood bags I haven't used.

So after the battle, recycled those. There's deliveries to do here but I dunno how beneficial it'd be to grind instead of going on the boat.

Also Pro-tip: Get the cities back online ASAP. It'll give you the bridges/etc. that people build. I didn't realize this slamming through the notifications until after I left the "network" area (going to the last point of the first area) that the builds don't reach past a certain point so I couldn't drive the Trike/Motorcycle up the mountain to the last area because it got extremely rocky and nobody had bridges up.

Which reminds me: Building is really awkward in regards to not being able to rotate and "ramp" things like the ladder or the bridges. The wind-farm is notable. I saw a bridge with a tree going through it, but you can't place a bridge to have the bike go down a "ramp"/slope to an easier area. So taking the bike through that area (so far) is really annoying.

I dunno if that's fixed on the PS4 version, but I do think Kojima and his team could make it a little easier to build things and have the "strands"/roads be better/continuous instead of these "gaps" where you're able to place a bridge but then you have to dodge rocks to get to the next one.

El Babua · « **Reply #931 on:** July 15, 2020, 06:47:23 PM »

2 hrs in

The fact that Kojima convinced Sony to give him a blank check on this weird ass shit

thisismyusername · « **Reply #932 on:** July 15, 2020, 10:15:37 PM »

I haven't bothered with using the materials and that's kind of biting me in the ass with the amounts I've got in private lockers. The second area introduces "roads" and I don't know where to get Cermics from.

Bebpo · « **Reply #933 on:** July 15, 2020, 10:39:40 PM »

steal them from bases

thisismyusername · « **Reply #934 on:** July 16, 2020, 08:33:28 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on July 15, 2020, 10:39:40 PM

steal them from bases

XL Cermics there.

80-100Kg weight.

Built the first road in the PC version apparently, since none of the networks I put up had them until I did that.

As soon as I did that, people started to build roads.

Being able to use the Exoskeleton on the road (but only on the "power strip"

)

Free movement and very little having to shift.

Got the Trike/Bike blueprints so I can now fabricate the bike and no longer have to hoof it in this second area.

I might do a little more road building later on if folks don't do it for me.

I'm trying to figure out the best route for the

Sorta spoiler, I guess

pizza delivery

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Since one of the requirements is "stays flat." So I'm sure climbing up a rope would utterly ruin that and nobody in the network so far has built a route or anything over that direction... So I might have to eat it and go scout that way before taking on the request.

Svejk · « **Reply #935 on:** July 16, 2020, 08:39:37 AM »

I swore I built the first road in the PS4 version, but I guess that's how it's progression is introduced.

Y'all making me want to go back and see how much progress has happened since.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #936 on:** July 16, 2020, 08:59:29 AM »

Is it? Really weird to have bridges and ladders show up on the Network but not built roads for people to benefit from "those that came before." Until you do one yourself.

Svejk · « **Reply #937 on:** July 16, 2020, 09:21:58 AM »

Quote from: thisismyusername on July 16, 2020, 08:59:29 AM

Is it? Really weird to have bridges and ladders show up on the Network but not built roads for people to benefit from "those that came before." Until you do one yourself.

Yeah... not sure how that works, but that'd be too ironic if so. lol And I wouldn't worry about finding stuff on building a trike, I think you repair your first one, but after that, just steal them or snag ones that people upload. Stealing them though, you can store them in your garage for later.... if I remember correctly.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #938 on:** July 16, 2020, 09:31:00 AM »

Yeah, if you rest in your private quarters, it'll be put in the garage.

I'm not sure when the Corpse Disposal truck unlocks, as I see those in the bases but "LOCKED!"

thisismyusername · « **Reply #939 on:** July 16, 2020, 06:16:44 PM »

Sam Porter Bridges Pizza... is the pizza... for leveling up fast.

Bridge Grade went from like 4 to 32 just from a minute delivery via a bridge I built, a long-distance Bike/Tryke I built (since it's in no-mans land of no Networks/buildings) and getting there with it "flat" (though riding with a boost tilted it a little.

)

Bebpo · « **Reply #940 on:** July 16, 2020, 08:22:16 PM »

fwiw the Pizza delivery missions are intentionally troll missions. The one from the farm....fffffuuuuu
This game is so satisfying though when you plan a great route and execute on it. Feel like a boss

Wait until you get further. So much fun building routes.

My brother still hasn't played DS even though he likes MGS because he feels like it's going to be another one of those RDR2 kind of long ass cinematic story games and he finds those boring. I keep telling him that DS is like the exact opposite of that. DS is totally a gameplay af game.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #941 on:** July 16, 2020, 08:45:10 PM »

Apparently, you can't take the story missions from ANY terminal. It has to be the last one. So I left the Weather Station (after unlocking forecasting which seems useless right now since the rain seems scripted) to do some missions while going back to the main road (since nobody has built roads this far/deep).

*Spongebob THREE HOURS LATER...*

Lost my bike fording rivers (reloading like 5 times), lost it near the scripted BT segment since rocks mean I can't get a good road over there so I abandoned it. Hopefully it'll be there when I load back in, but I got some deliveries done and got the third level Exoskeleton so now I should probably craft level 2 and 3 just to have them in my armory since the level 1 has been doing some decent work with the bike on battery from the Network.

Most folks are helping. I've been getting a bunch of "materials put in your road" notifications and the like, which is good. But there's no roads past the three outposts right now.

I just want to Tryke across the map at this point. If there's one thing I wish Kojima would update it's the bike speed on boost. It still feels a little "slow" to me.

Bebpo · « **Reply #942 on:** July 16, 2020, 09:26:19 PM »

Your complaints will be remedied later.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #943 on:** July 17, 2020, 12:18:36 AM »

I hope so, because boosting over gaps toward the Junk Dealer on the bigger battery bike was "whew" while MULES chased my ass.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #944 on:** July 17, 2020, 08:46:56 AM »

Born on a mountain, raised in a cave.
Truckin' and Building Roads, is what I crave.

Got roads built past the mid-way mark to the Distribution Center. Thanks... to nobody but me.

Now I'm trying to build the road from the Distribution Center to the last link but the material costs skyrocket and I can't put in contracts for people to put the materials into the road.

:'( Time to hunt MULES, I guess...

chronovore · « **Reply #945 on:** July 17, 2020, 10:26:27 PM »

I'll look forward to playing this once it's on megadiscount or PS+ and the surge of new players will make the landscape replete with bridges and stuff.

Bebpo · « **Reply #946 on:** July 17, 2020, 11:36:30 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on July 17, 2020, 10:26:27 PM

I'll look forward to playing this once it's on megadiscount or PS+ and the surge of new players will make the landscape replete with bridges and stuff.

Has the game been on sale at all digitally on PS4? I keep checking every sale to tell my brother to finally buy it, but it never seems to be discounted at all.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #947 on:** July 17, 2020, 11:41:30 PM »

The goddamn

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World War 1 scene.

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Actual spoiler images

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thisismyusername · « **Reply #948 on:** July 18, 2020, 01:27:23 AM »

(sort-of)

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thisismyusername · « **Reply #949 on:** July 18, 2020, 10:08:55 PM »

*Reach the mountain*

Game: "Go back to Mama."
Me: "Ok, I'll just climb the mountain, it's a straight-shot down."
*Spongebob font: AN HOUR, THREE BUSTED SHOES, DODGING BT'S AND SNOW DAMAGING YOUR FEET WITH SANDALWOOD LATER...*
Me: Made it.

Game spoilers

Kojima/Higs: LOL BOSS TIME BITCH.
Mama: Run!!!
Me: Fuck that, I've got the materials to make blood grenades and an assault rifle. I'm shoving Higg's boss back up his ass.

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Don Rumata · « **Reply #950 on:** July 18, 2020, 10:34:09 PM »

Started this.
Loving the gameplay parts, but these Kojima cutscenes are killing me, i'm not used to his 4 hours of pointless exposition anymore.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #951 on:** July 19, 2020, 02:09:11 AM »

Road Autism

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2hours:30mins to do this mission because I was building roads from the starting area->mid-way distribution center (started here since the road I built a few days ago got here)->Mama's lab/city.

Go back and forth to get materials from the player-built shelters (sorry to anyone keeping materials there, but fuck you for not building roads earlier), build out from Mama's Lab to the Incenerator on the map and beyond that to the Distribution Center in the mountains. At that point I run out of materials and take the truck across the rivers up to the final stretch. Find a player built shelter, go "Fuck, let me see those materials."

Slight spoilers for Don

SLAM! fall over backwards onto Mama while being chased by Terrorist MULEs.

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Sam: "OH MY GOD! I'm so sorry!!! Are you ok?"
16% damage.

At that point, I put the materials into the road next to the shelter (>:| not finished) and deliver the cargo to the area. Results above.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #952 on:** July 19, 2020, 08:50:09 AM »

Chapter 6:

Sam's lines during these moments.

Kojima made a M-pregger fanfic.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #953 on:** July 19, 2020, 02:23:28 PM »

*Whiteout starts to happen as I'm climbing the mountain*

[NEW E-MAIL!] The Mountainer: "Don't get caught in the Whiteout!!!!"
Me/Sam in the middle of said Whiteout checking the e-mail quickly:

Chapter 7:

Game spoilers

The explanation scenes for Norman and Mads.

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This game is for parents, it seems.

Bebpo · « **Reply #954 on:** July 19, 2020, 03:24:12 PM »

Are you enjoying the best part of the game??

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That Zipline Life

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thisismyusername · « **Reply #955 on:** July 19, 2020, 03:43:40 PM »

Nobody is placing those, or they're placing them in stupid areas where getting off throws you down a mountain.

Bebpo · « **Reply #956 on:** July 19, 2020, 03:55:33 PM »

Learn to love the aerial road life

You thought building roads was fun? Now it's time to build networks

thisismyusername · « **Reply #957 on:** July 19, 2020, 04:11:40 PM »

Quote from: thisismyusername on July 19, 2020, 03:43:40 PM

they're placing them in stupid areas where getting off throws you down a mountain.

I would build the network, but testing it is a fools errand.

Also apparently you can't choose a direction for the zipline if there's multiple connected to one.

Bebpo · « **Reply #958 on:** July 19, 2020, 04:18:00 PM »

Huh? If your zipline connects to more than 1 other zipline you press the d-pad left/right to switch which one you want to go to.

Also building zipworks is a strategy of using the existing ones that are at weird places to make the mid-point sections between the ones you put down since bandwidth is limited.

thisismyusername · « **Reply #959 on:** July 19, 2020, 04:30:17 PM »

You misunderstand. I've seen too many from the PC community that connect and the end point is on a mountain to where getting off has the tongs drop over the mountain face and drop you like five stories to your death/damage cargo to where I'm leery about using them.

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Author Topic: Holy Shit Death Stranding is beautiful nonsense (Read 140586 times)