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It's astonishing. Trump today said that the Palestine/Israel deal didn't need the Palestinians on board and they were acting 'cute'.

Running Kushner for President of Palestine with a "Make Palestine Great Again" agenda has to be the most bold and insane move of the administration yet.

team filler · « **Reply #1153 on:** June 30, 2019, 06:17:29 PM »

agrajag · « **Reply #1154 on:** June 30, 2019, 11:46:06 PM »

https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/1143864261036466176

BIONIC · « **Reply #1155 on:** July 01, 2019, 01:42:16 AM »

Quote from: agrajag on June 30, 2019, 11:46:06 PM

https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/1143864261036466176

curly · « **Reply #1156 on:** July 01, 2019, 08:35:38 PM »

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-bbOX3XoAE7pct.jpg

#earlystagecapitalism

team filler · « **Reply #1157 on:** July 02, 2019, 05:05:53 AM »

https://twitter.com/PACBI/status/1145981447997743104

Don Rumata · « **Reply #1158 on:** July 02, 2019, 07:52:19 AM »

i've got several puma shoes.

Tasty · « **Reply #1159 on:** July 02, 2019, 08:47:26 AM »

I have several pumas chained up out back

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1160 on:** July 02, 2019, 09:33:59 AM »

Quote from: Don Rumata on July 02, 2019, 07:52:19 AM

i've got several puma shoes.

Here's a solution. Just add "Boycott" above the Puma logo!

Tasty · « **Reply #1161 on:** July 03, 2019, 10:30:59 AM »

Quote from: Esch on July 03, 2019, 09:37:31 AM

https://twitter.com/BRANDONWARDELL/status/1146230170468007936

Throw in some clap emojis and obnoxious GIFs and you pretty much have the state of discourse today...

Tasty · « **Reply #1162 on:** July 03, 2019, 12:14:25 PM »

It helps to shop around. I saved about $3k paying for my grandma's funeral a few weeks ago. Still ended up putting $8k on my card though.

toku · « **Reply #1163 on:** July 03, 2019, 12:23:57 PM »

Still absolutely disgusting how you have to "shop around" for deals on healthcare and funerals though. There shouldn't be a "marketplace" for this shit.

Kara · « **Reply #1164 on:** July 03, 2019, 12:30:05 PM »

Without subjecting death to the market how would we get innovations like *checks notes* lobbying state and local governments to require survivors to buy caskets before a body can be cremated.

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #1165 on:** July 03, 2019, 12:34:24 PM »

This is why I want to die at sea

Tasty · « **Reply #1166 on:** July 03, 2019, 12:46:30 PM »

Quote from: Stro on July 03, 2019, 12:33:51 PM

We got about $1000 knocked off by doing it itemized instead of doing their package deal that was originally given to us, but they were cool with charging the extra grand for shit we weren't using and would have had we not asked it to be itemized. Really the craziest part to me is they need full payment immediately. Most people don't even have $500 on hand, let alone $5-12K or higher.

What happens when it can't be paid for? Do funeral homes just hold bodies hostage at that point?

Yes, that's the impression I got.

And yeah, it really should be illegal at least for the packaged vs. itemized shit to differ so greatly in costs. We ran into that too.

Never go with a corporate-owned funeral home either btw -- research which ones are vs. family-owned, and go with a family-owned/small business outfit.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1167 on:** July 03, 2019, 12:47:46 PM »

Quote from: Kara on July 03, 2019, 12:30:05 PM

Without subjecting death to the market how would we get innovations like *checks notes* lobbying state and local governments to require survivors to buy caskets before a body can be cremated.

Fetal Burial Laws

Kara · « **Reply #1168 on:** July 03, 2019, 01:21:30 PM »

iirc funeral homes are a duopoly and they often buy local homes and keep the name / appearance of remaining under the same ownership. This was years and years ago, though.

Tasty · « **Reply #1169 on:** July 03, 2019, 01:44:22 PM »

Quote from: Kara on July 03, 2019, 01:21:30 PM

iirc funeral homes are a duopoly and they often buy local homes and keep the name / appearance of remaining under the same ownership. This was years and years ago, though.

Yes. It's extremely difficult to find the mom-and-pop ones, but they do exist and they're worth finding.

team filler · « **Reply #1170 on:** July 03, 2019, 01:54:19 PM »

too expensive to die these day

selling bbq plated when family members die

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1171 on:** July 03, 2019, 02:19:09 PM »

Quote from: Stro on July 03, 2019, 12:05:21 PM

You might not have a personal experience with #latestagecapitalism until you get an itemized bill from a funeral home and see shit like:

$300 for an obituary in the local paper (something that was free for decades, just a death notice is $65)
$2100 for cremation, this doesn't include the urn or any services
$300 and up for an urn, even if you're using a temporary urn and will be using your own or moving the ashes to your own
Referring to the guest books/thank you cards as "merchandise"
Payments are due in full before services are rendered, which is really wild to me since you're expecting people who just lost a family member (who may have been the head of household and money might be tied up in the immediate aftermath) to have anywhere from $4000-12000 and up on hand immediately.

Shit is pretty wild, tbh

Don Rumata · « **Reply #1172 on:** July 03, 2019, 02:22:22 PM »

I'm still paying off my granpa's funeral, from the start of the year.

Why can't you just throw bodies in the river, wrapped in plastic?

team filler · « **Reply #1173 on:** July 03, 2019, 02:43:13 PM »

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #1174 on:** July 03, 2019, 02:44:15 PM »

Quote from: riotous on July 03, 2019, 02:41:04 PM

If only there were other ways to borrow money, or some sort of credit service, maybe one's with cards accepted by businesses that give them money in exchange for you paying it off over time or something.

And you wonder why people think you’re a hateful bitch

team filler · « **Reply #1175 on:** July 03, 2019, 02:47:12 PM »

neolib elitism

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #1176 on:** July 03, 2019, 02:47:47 PM »

That comment was you belittling someone for having difficulty paying for a funeral, find a grip

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #1177 on:** July 03, 2019, 03:00:35 PM »

Yeah, bro, it just really did come off as you dunking on a guy having to navigate that same shit. Long winded sarcasm usually lands as trying to make the reader feel stupid. Also, in this case, as presenting going into credit card debt to cover a funeral as an obvious, easy solution. What if the person has a shit score or no lending history, we cool with putting them through crazy interest rates because funeral homes are putting their balls in a vice during a time of grief?

Sorry about the loss of your mother, I very much dread that situation

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #1178 on:** July 03, 2019, 03:13:01 PM »

Yes we entirely agree now so I’m bored 😘

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #1179 on:** July 03, 2019, 03:16:52 PM »

Pissing people off generates more posts so I’m generally good with that

Contentious content engaging enraged posters perfectly becoming bire

agrajag · « **Reply #1180 on:** July 03, 2019, 03:17:26 PM »

Quote from: riotous on July 03, 2019, 03:14:44 PM

I know I've been kind of boring lately, not even getting into arguments with anyone; I'll try to do better.

you should try taking a page out of MMaRsu's playbook

agrajag · « **Reply #1181 on:** July 03, 2019, 03:26:13 PM »

Quote from: Esch on July 03, 2019, 03:23:09 PM

Quote from: agrajag on July 03, 2019, 03:17:26 PM

you should try taking a page out of MMaRsu's playbook

asking someone to emulate dutch forum posting patterns is irresponsible

Tasty · « **Reply #1182 on:** July 03, 2019, 03:29:33 PM »

Quote from: riotous on July 03, 2019, 02:41:04 PM

If only there were other ways to borrow money, or some sort of credit service, maybe one's with cards accepted by businesses that give them money in exchange for you paying it off over time or something.

Yeah so, that $8k I threw on my card for a few weeks for my grandma's funeral ago pushed it over the limit and now my credit's pretty fucked for the near future.

Scary part is that I was the only one with a limit high enough to do it, and we still ended up splitting off a part so someone else in the family could help.

agrajag · « **Reply #1183 on:** July 03, 2019, 03:33:18 PM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on July 03, 2019, 03:29:33 PM

Quote from: riotous on July 03, 2019, 02:41:04 PM
If only there were other ways to borrow money, or some sort of credit service, maybe one's with cards accepted by businesses that give them money in exchange for you paying it off over time or something.

Yeah so, that $8k I threw on my card for a few weeks for my grandma's funeral ago pushed it over the limit and now my credit's pretty fucked for the near future.

Scary part is that I was the only one with a limit high enough to do it, and we still ended up splitting off a part so someone else in the family could help.

It's kind of a weird thing to ask, imo, but have you tried crowdfunding with the funeral costs? When my mom passed a way, my sister's friends started a donation through Facebook, ended up collecting like $2,500. It ain't nothing. But like I said, I could never do that myself, I feel weird asking people for money.

Kara · « **Reply #1184 on:** July 03, 2019, 03:39:06 PM »

Quote from: riotous on July 03, 2019, 02:53:30 PM

I apologize if it came off insensitive.. I was raging along with you guys but didn't comment as discussing this shit is pretty triggering to me (laugh if you want, I have PTSD surrounding the death of my Mother).

But you really wouldn't want these assholes involved in any sort of credit arrangement is all I'm saying, as poorly as I came across that's all I meant.

Sorry I liked some posts dunking on you for your initial reply. (Not going to be a chicken and unlike now that I've read the whole discussion.)

team filler · « **Reply #1185 on:** July 03, 2019, 03:41:15 PM »

is it really just us poor mexicanos that do bbq fundraisers for every funeral?

agrajag · « **Reply #1186 on:** July 03, 2019, 03:41:19 PM »

Quote from: riotous on July 03, 2019, 03:40:10 PM

I deserve the dunking, really not sure where my head was at there.

up your ass, which shosta says you need to scrub the shit out of with a wash cloth

Kara · « **Reply #1187 on:** July 03, 2019, 03:44:30 PM »

On this macabre topic, in New York City I believe they bury you in a potter's field on an island in the Bronx if you're too indignant to have a funeral that's paid for. It's basically a mass grave and I only know of it because that's where they bury some convicts and it comes up in episodes of Law & Order.

You also have to get special permission to go if you're family of the deceased because it's not truly open to the public.

Can't imagine a stupider and crueler "civilized" culture than ours, sometimes.

agrajag · « **Reply #1188 on:** July 03, 2019, 03:45:30 PM »

Quote from: shosta on July 03, 2019, 03:42:53 PM

Quote from: filler on July 03, 2019, 03:41:15 PM
is it really just us poor mexicanos that do bbq fundraisers for every funeral?
I think it's just latinos who actually honor their dead these days, white people put them in shitty homes waiting for them to die

As a former Soviet person, that's part of American culture that I could never get my head around.

Putting old people in homes?

Living in a tiny two bedroom apartment with your in-laws until they die and then repeat the process with your kids and their husbands/wives?

Tasty · « **Reply #1189 on:** July 03, 2019, 03:51:30 PM »

Quote from: agrajag on July 03, 2019, 03:33:18 PM

Quote from: Tasty Meat on July 03, 2019, 03:29:33 PM
Quote from: riotous on July 03, 2019, 02:41:04 PM
If only there were other ways to borrow money, or some sort of credit service, maybe one's with cards accepted by businesses that give them money in exchange for you paying it off over time or something.

Yeah so, that $8k I threw on my card for a few weeks for my grandma's funeral ago pushed it over the limit and now my credit's pretty fucked for the near future.

Scary part is that I was the only one with a limit high enough to do it, and we still ended up splitting off a part so someone else in the family could help.

It's kind of a weird thing to ask, imo, but have you tried crowdfunding with the funeral costs? When my mom passed a way, my sister's friends started a donation through Facebook, ended up collecting like $2,500. It ain't nothing. But like I said, I could never do that myself, I feel weird asking people for money.

We're all poor losers with way too much pride, so while it was considered at various points the decision was made to handle it in-house.

Tripon · « **Reply #1190 on:** July 03, 2019, 09:53:47 PM »

Quote from: Stro on July 03, 2019, 12:33:51 PM

We got about $1000 knocked off by doing it itemized instead of doing their package deal that was originally given to us, but they were cool with charging the extra grand for shit we weren't using and would have had we not asked it to be itemized. Really the craziest part to me is they need full payment immediately. Most people don't even have $500 on hand, let alone $5-12K or higher.

What happens when it can't be paid for? Do funeral homes just hold bodies hostage at that point?

Pretty much, or donated to companies/colleges for 'research' as cadavers.

Kara · « **Reply #1191 on:** July 03, 2019, 10:07:56 PM »

https://biv.com/article/2019/05/how-slow-retail-sales-would-hurt-economy-if-bc-reins-money-laundering

benjipwns · « **Reply #1192 on:** July 03, 2019, 10:22:59 PM »

State regulations and industry rules on cremation are pretty intense I also discovered this year. The main thing I learned other than how much paperwork is involved is how if you're too fat they can't cremate you because of how the fat will boil in the ovens. (Apparently something the Nazis knew quite a bit about but did not become common regulations/rules in the U.S. until the 1980s or something.)

Also discovered that canceling a deceased person's Comcast is more difficult than getting your name put on a deceased person's bank account.

Standard libertarian idiot story about the hilarious casket regulations in certain states like the ones monks took down in Louisiana:

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A five-year battle by Benedictine monks in Louisiana for the right to make and sell caskets is over, and the holy carpenters have won. The Supreme Court declined this week to get involved in the fight between St. Joseph Abbey and the Louisiana State Board of Embalmers and Funeral Directors, letting stand a ruling that declared a state-enforced industry monopoly illegal.

The law in question required anybody who wanted to sell caskets to undergo funeral director training and set up embalming equipment, rules that have nothing to do with creating or selling fancy wooden boxes with which to store dead bodies, but everything to do with making sure the funeral industry controlled the marketplace. Reason's Damon Root had been following the case when the U.S. Court of Appeals struck it down in March, ruling "That Louisiana does not even require a casket for burial, does not impose requirements for their construction or design, does not require a casket to be sealed before burial, and does not require funeral directors to have any special expertise in caskets, leads us to conclude that no rational relationship exists between public health and safety and limiting intrastate sales of caskets to funeral establishments."

BIONIC · « **Reply #1193 on:** July 04, 2019, 02:19:25 AM »

Quote from: riotous on July 03, 2019, 02:41:04 PM

If only there were other ways to borrow money, or some sort of credit service, maybe one's with cards accepted by businesses that give them money in exchange for you paying it off over time or something.

Capitalist whore

Rufus · « **Reply #1194 on:** July 06, 2019, 04:36:05 AM »

https://www.talkingpoliticspodcast.com/blog/2019/172-libra

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What does it mean when Facebook says it wants its own currency? We explore the power, the potential and the pitfalls of Libra. How does Facebook plan to make money out of making money? Can anyone stop it? And does this represent a fundamental shift in the model of surveillance capitalism? Plus we consider some of the rivals it faces: Bitcoin, WeChat and the good old dollar.

VomKriege · « **Reply #1195 on:** July 06, 2019, 06:02:54 AM »

'Wolf of Wall Street' producer charged with 1MDB money laundering in Malaysia

https://reut.rs/2RVuzrq

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1196 on:** July 06, 2019, 10:01:55 AM »

Man, I always knew that the Internet Movie Database was up to no good.

Nintex · « **Reply #1197 on:** July 06, 2019, 12:24:14 PM »

https://twitter.com/IFTVofficial/status/1147540670699180035

toku · « **Reply #1198 on:** July 06, 2019, 12:49:53 PM »

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1146977277252648965

love cyberpunk 2019

team filler · « **Reply #1199 on:** July 06, 2019, 03:24:17 PM »

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1147557849880510464

News:

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