Looks like GAF is coming back up, so if you could all form a que to the left (get it?) and exit in a safe manner. Nice seeing y'all.
As it should. The furor over what EL was accused is ridiculously overblown, so much so that I'm shocked he took the site down. Most GAF members are either indifferent to the accusation or felt it was an innoccously untoward act committed by someone naively unclear on how to conduct themselves in that kind of sexually charged situation. They just want their forum back.
You mean they want their echo-chamber back where they don't want their opinions challenged.
First, is there something inherently wrong with an "echo chamber"? Is there a problem fostering a community where rank bigotry was deem unacceptable and forbidden? Also, can you give me some examples of valid opinions that GAF refused the expression of? Or, what opinions on GAF were deemed above reproach and undeserving of challenge?
An echo chamber is wrong in the case of Gaf as actual real discussion was frowned upon unless you were on the 'right' page with the loudest voices in those threads.
While there were clear and necessary lines drawn on what was tolerable opinion on GAF, there were also differences between the likeminded. You had many more left wing members of GAF who took exception, as even I did, against the feckless liberals that sought to excuse the normalization of fascism under the guise of "free speech."[/quote]
Look many of us are open minded fair people but here's the difference we don't thrown our toys out the pram if someone challenges our world or political thinking.
Fascism isn't just a challenge to my political thinking; it's an existential threat against me and my loved ones. Acting as if this is innocent forum squabbles over ideas, is dangerously naive and does a true disservice to combating the growing threat.
There used to be a time on Gaf where people of different political persuasions could actually discuss back and forth their thoughts and ideas in POLIgaf and leave maybe a bit more changed and knowledgeable on their worldview.
There also used to be a time when we wrongly believed that a fascist couldn't be elected to the highest office in the world.
Gaf became a place where some very strange people gathered who wanted any reality to be crushed and refocused to only how they saw the world.
I'm sorry your feelings were hurt by GAF's response to Trump and what he symbolizes, but maybe you should feel more concerned for the actual victims of these Nazis and how their violence is being slowly and methodically normalized thanks to gutless moderates crying over infringements on speech.
