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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
« Reply #240 on: April 18, 2019, 04:19:26 PM »
Amazon and Google finally kissed and made up after like 7-8 years.

Officials YouTube, YouTube TV, and YouTube Kids apps are coming to Amazon Fire devices and TVs.

And Chromecast support is coming to Prime Video.

8)

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
« Reply #241 on: April 22, 2019, 08:33:30 AM »
Anyone got a Google Fi referral code? Thinking about trying it out since they have Pixel 3s for half off today.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
« Reply #242 on: May 05, 2019, 10:01:43 PM »
I/O in two days boyyysss.

- Pixel 3a / 3a XL for $400
- Pixel on Sprint and T-Mobile maybe?
- Home Hub becomes Nest Hub, maybe Nest Hub Max is shown

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« Reply #243 on: May 06, 2019, 11:39:16 AM »
Amazon and Google finally kissed and made up after like 7-8 years.

Officials YouTube, YouTube TV, and YouTube Kids apps are coming to Amazon Fire devices and TVs.

And Chromecast support is coming to Prime Video.

8)

Ended up giving my kid my iPad because her amazon kindle fire didn’t have stupid YouTube kids.

Tasty

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
« Reply #244 on: May 07, 2019, 04:00:47 PM »
Nest Hub Max is $229, supports the Thread low-power IoT standard, and has a better front-facing camera than Nest's current top-of-the-line Cam IQ.

Nest is now Google Nest.

Google Home Hub is now Nest Hub and got a price cut to $129.

Pixel 3a starts at $399, includes headphone jack, Pixel 3-quality camera and software updates, and no wireless charging or water resistance. New Pixel color: "Purple-ish."

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
« Reply #245 on: May 07, 2019, 04:05:26 PM »
Pixel 3a doesn't include the Pixel Visual Core chip, but does include the Titan M security chip.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
« Reply #246 on: May 07, 2019, 08:43:54 PM »


Insane. If you told this to people in 2010 no one would have believed you.

I always thought Chrome OS had potential but it's still surprising to me.

Speaking of, all Chromebooks that ship in 2019 will have Linux app support, and there's a whole bunch of software updates coming to make it easier to share files between Android/Linux/Chrome OS and debug apps in general.

I think the last thing now for Chrome OS to really compete (for non-gamers obvsly lol) is Adobe suite support...

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
« Reply #247 on: May 07, 2019, 09:42:48 PM »
https://nest.com/whats-happening/#whats-happening-to-the-works-with-nest-program

Works with Nest API is dying :yikes x 1000

This has the potential to easily be the worst and most damaging Google shutdown ever. Keep an eye on the blogosphere for this to blow up sometime before the August shutoff.

Tasty

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels, Nests, and Homes
« Reply #248 on: May 08, 2019, 02:30:39 PM »
https://twitter.com/harrymccracken/status/1125887589267828736

Also, all the price cuts:

Google Home (2016)                               $129 -> $99
Google Home Max (2017)                        $399 -> $299
Nest Hub (née Google Home Hub, 2018)   $149 -> $129

Pretty reasonable all around.

Will be interesting to see the Nest brand take over from Google Home for the speakers, probably gonna confuse the fuck out of people for a little while but that may be to Google's benefit -- normies today probably consider the Assistant and a Home speaker synonymous, but by downplaying the Google brand for the product names it highlights Google Assistant more as a distinct entity which can work across many devices, not just a single speaker.

Would be reeeeaaaally weird if they touch the Chromecast's branding though. Short of (stupidly) killing the entire line to launch a Pixel TV or something, even though the name "Chromecast" makes almost zero sense anymore in the context of Google's overall plans, I can't see them messing with something so successful.

Then again, Google. :lol

Tasty

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #249 on: May 08, 2019, 02:34:54 PM »
Also an I/O recap vid for all the non-hardware stuff they announced:


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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #250 on: May 08, 2019, 03:54:11 PM »
Treble stuff: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2019/05/fresher-os-with-projects-treble-and-mainline.html

- Double the amount of devices became eligible for this year's beta program compared to last year
- The latest version of Android (8.0/Oreo) was at 5.7% worldwide by the time I/O 2018 rolled around; this year 10.4% of Android devices are on the latest major version (9.0/Pie) as of I/O 2019

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixels Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #251 on: May 10, 2019, 03:01:59 PM »

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #252 on: May 11, 2019, 06:21:45 PM »
Because I'm a giant nerd, I thought about what the ideal Google hardware lineup might look like after their October even this year...

Pixel 3a and 3a XL      no changes
Pixel 4 and Pixel 4 XL  new product
Pixelbook 2             new product
Pixel Buds 2            new product

Nest Speak              aka "Google Home 2"
Nest Speak Mini         rename
Nest Speak Max          rename
Nest Hub                no changes
Nest Hub Max            no changes
Nest Thermostat 4       new product
Nest Thermostat 4e      aka "Nest Thermostat E - 2nd Gen"
Nest Protect 3          new product
Nest Cam 3              combination Nest Cam Indoor + Outdoor IQ
Nest Wifi               aka "Google Wifi 2"
Nest Secure             no changes
Detect/Connect/Tag      no changes
Nest Hello              no changes

Chromecast 4            combination Chromecast 3rd Gen + Ultra


I'm not betting on a Pixel Watch but it'd be nice.

Daydream seems to be dead, or getting close to it... :( :'( :fbm

With the Nest line I want the design language on new versions of older products cleaned up to match the direction they've been going in since 2016/2017. And the names to be saner. Google seems fine using iPhone-like numbering for the Pixels, so push that shit to new iterations on your other products too.

Tasty

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #253 on: May 11, 2019, 08:10:52 PM »
1997:



2019:



:rejoice

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #254 on: May 11, 2019, 09:27:00 PM »
Everybody hates video calls. Until we get to a future where we can control the camera with a little drone that follows you around like Navi, fuck it all in the dumpster.

Unrelated, but I really, really want all messaging and communication apps to move to an open standard that keeps your data private. Throw blockchain in the pitch if you need funding and go kill  Google and Apple, Mr. Meat.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #255 on: May 11, 2019, 11:51:16 PM »
Everybody hates video calls. Until we get to a future where we can control the camera with a little drone that follows you around like Navi, fuck it all in the dumpster.
:noooo I'd Skyrim-bucket them immediately.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #256 on: May 16, 2019, 11:11:57 AM »
https://www.blog.google/products/google-nest/updates-works-with-nest/

- Existing Works With Nest devices and services will continue to work (no shutdown.)
- The original August 31, 2019 shutdown date is now the cutoff date for connecting new devices and services using Works With Nest (instead of the preferred Works With Google Assistant.)
- Reiteration that Amazon Alexa will continue to work, as well as announcing that a set of the most popular third-party Works With Nest services -- if they can't migrate yet to Works With Google Assistant -- will retain their access after accepting regular security audits and allowing more user control over the data.
- Google Assistant Routines will get easier to use and more powerful, presumably to offset some of the sting of losing direct Nest IFTTT support (there is a Google Assistant service on IFTTT, but it doesn't offer direct device access.)

Works With Nest now currently does not have a hard shut-off date, and I would bet it probably won't for a year or two.
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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #257 on: May 26, 2019, 04:52:22 PM »
https://9to5google.com/2019/05/26/google-pixel-slate-discount/

Pixel Slate is now $200 across all three models: $599 for m3, $799 for i5, and the i7 is $1399. The Celeron versions which disappeared shortly after launch have yet to reappear, so those are prooooobably dead.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #258 on: June 03, 2019, 04:01:33 AM »
got a google home mini as a gift, what do?

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #259 on: June 03, 2019, 06:35:40 AM »
I really like Google's hardware, but fuck me if they don't need to kill whoever is responsible for the absolute mess that is their branding. So confusing.
Spud


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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #261 on: June 03, 2019, 08:02:17 AM »
got a google home mini as a gift, what do?

Buncha stuff: https://blog.google/products/home/google-home-mini-has-arrivedheres-what-you-can-do-it/
gonna have to get a chromecast now =/ just set it up and like how responsive it is. i can see myself using more over time

Tasty

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #262 on: June 13, 2019, 10:08:17 AM »
https://twitter.com/madebygoogle/status/1138876305158500353

:thinking :doge

Fan render:



Still at least four months away...

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #263 on: June 13, 2019, 02:13:49 PM »
Yup, that's a phone. :zzz  Nice to see thinner bezels on both models.

Might go with this and upgrade from the Pixel 2, but at the same time...it's still working great so don't know if I need to.
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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #264 on: June 25, 2019, 05:33:55 AM »
has anyone tried the google router replacement/single wifi point thing? i have a router that the isp provided at the time of setting up my internet and it's terribad with a range of like 20ft so debating this from google over getting a bunch of signal boosters

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #265 on: June 25, 2019, 07:56:17 AM »
Yeah, it's really slick and works about as well as you could hope. I also dig how easy it is to see and name devices, set a "priority" device, and otherwise manage things will the app. Downside is there's no "local" administration web page/site, so hope you have a mobile device (or Chromebook) nearby.

Though there might be an upgraded model coming in October? But there's been rumored devices before (Pixel Watch) that never ended up getting announced...

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #266 on: June 25, 2019, 08:04:32 AM »
Yup, that's a phone. :zzz  Nice to see thinner bezels on both models.

Might go with this and upgrade from the Pixel 2, but at the same time...it's still working great so don't know if I need to.

I can't think of a reason for me to upgrade from my Pixel 2. Camera is amazing and everything is still running smoothly. Maybe once updates slow down.
itm

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #267 on: June 25, 2019, 09:42:06 AM »
thanks tasty, will probably pick one up over the weekend as i can't wait until october in the hopes a new model may be released

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #268 on: June 25, 2019, 09:59:38 AM »
thanks tasty, will probably pick one up over the weekend as i can't wait until october in the hopes a new model may be released

Nice. And if a new model is announced, odds are it can be added as a node to an existing Google Wifi mesh as easily as the older model.

I mean you never know, but that would be my bet.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #269 on: June 26, 2019, 05:22:10 AM »
well the current model claims to provide solid coverage for places around 1500 sq ft and reviews i've read all seem very positive; even with the lack of an admin page, apparently you don't feel the need to go into such settings to get the best out of it and tbh i can't remember the last time i ever dicked around with router settings as admin

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #270 on: June 26, 2019, 07:36:25 AM »
Yeah those admin pages are usually The Worst™.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #271 on: July 08, 2019, 02:30:35 PM »
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/07/08/pixel-4-xl-renders/



>no fingerprint reader
>bottom-firing speakers

googel why

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #272 on: July 08, 2019, 04:56:18 PM »
Bezels in the year of our lord, 2019?

:jeanluc

(maybe in display fingerprint reader tho?)
yar

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #273 on: July 20, 2019, 12:46:36 PM »


Nabbing that smaller Pixel 4, probably in white too.

The design seems a bit unbalanced this year, though the XL is an aesthetic improvement without the notch. I'm very pleased both phones once again have identical designs, as I've desired since the first generation.

I will miss the "glass shade" on 1/3rd of the back, even the 3a has it. Ah well.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #274 on: July 20, 2019, 12:50:50 PM »
Also rumor is that there's a FaceID-like sensor on the front now. Google is utterly shameless. :doge :trumps

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #275 on: July 22, 2019, 11:41:52 AM »
https://9to5google.com/2019/07/22/pixel-slate-free-keyboard/

Pixel Slate is now $100 off on all models *and* includes the $100 official keyboard accessory. IMO it's probably still too floppy for real use, so you're better off shelling out for the $160 Brydge keyboard... but at that point just get a Pixelbook.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #276 on: July 22, 2019, 11:57:56 AM »
This reminds me, don't think I posted it here but one of Google's hardware heads said that they won't be making any more tablets and will instead focus just on laptops for Chrome OS going forward. Well, at least the Slate was good for something! :P

Bummer the Pixelbook 2 later this year will be using Intels' 2018 chips and not their 2019 set. Ah well, guess that's how it usually goes...

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #277 on: July 22, 2019, 02:24:41 PM »
My whole house is now a Google house :doge
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« Reply #278 on: July 23, 2019, 11:03:55 AM »

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #279 on: July 29, 2019, 02:34:27 PM »




Kinect is back I guess? :dunno

Also "audio port" = earpiece, don't get excited.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #280 on: August 12, 2019, 12:57:00 PM »
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/google-will-ask-you-to-migrate-your-nest-account-soon-heres-what-you-need-to-know/

Nest migration overview. Seems to make sense, and the Google Home app already has some hidden code around it.

If you have Nest connections you want to keep, don't migrate and don't disconnect those services after August 31 (or you won't be able to re-connect them.)

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #281 on: August 13, 2019, 03:25:24 PM »
https://9to5google.com/2019/08/12/google-pixel-microphone-lawsuit-settlement/

Free $20 if you owned Pixel 1.

(Much more if you had a mic issue and reported it to customer service.)

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #282 on: August 22, 2019, 12:11:44 PM »
https://9to5google.com/2019/08/21/exclusive-google-nest-mini-2nd-gen/

Google Home Mini + Chromecast Audio = Nest Mini

These things are going to fly off the shelves (more than the existing Home Mini already is...) Amazon should be a little worried...

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #283 on: August 22, 2019, 12:33:40 PM »


No more cutesy dessert names. Android Q is just... Android 10.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #284 on: September 03, 2019, 11:59:36 AM »
https://www.android.com/android-10/

Android 10 is out today for Pixels. Live Caption could be extremely useful... the 1-2 times a year you may ever need it. OS-level Smart Reply is wonderful.

Biggest change is more Treble stuff:

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With Google Play system updates, important Security and Privacy fixes can now be sent directly to your phone from Google Play, just the same way all your other apps update.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #285 on: September 03, 2019, 03:10:51 PM »
I just got the notification on my $175 Essential PH-1. Good things come to those who are cheap.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #286 on: September 03, 2019, 08:19:45 PM »
I think it's more good things come to those who have 5 minutes to do a little research before dropping hundreds of dollars on an item to be actively used for hundreds of hours.


Buuuuut thankfully going forward that's less of an issue.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #287 on: September 03, 2019, 09:12:12 PM »
Live Caption could be extremely useful... the 1-2 times a year you may ever need it.
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*ahem* As a cripple, I need it far more often.

Can I just say: Fuck Googie for making it Q-only? Just like Live Transcribe was Pie-only for a while (thankfully came to Oreo... right before Motorola upgraded my phone to Pie).

Like, why would you make #A11y's OS exclusive?

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« Reply #288 on: September 03, 2019, 09:26:35 PM »
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Like, why would you make #A11y's OS exclusive?

I could see some non-marketing justifications.

- Fewer devices to test (including a far smaller number of resolutions and processors)
- Fewer versions and flavors of Android to test
- It's currently unoptimized code and only works as advertised on flagships but not lower-spec phones (as flagships generally receive OS updates first)
- The feature is in some form of beta and needs real user data to function properly (but not too much data, which a wide release would unleash)
- A significant number of the APIs necessary for it to work are Q/10-exclusive, and need to be backported to the Google Play Services compatibility library and/or the AndroidX APIs to work on past versions (such as Live Transcribe on Oreo)

Burying the lede because obviously low-level API access (not only to display transcriptions, but the ML pipeline to decode and translate system audio in real-time) is needed to make the feature work at all.
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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #289 on: September 03, 2019, 10:19:02 PM »
Sure, but you're going to advertise it widely (well, on your blog and get news sites to pick it up) only for disabled folks to be told "lol buy the latest shit, you poor" is serious  :maf inducing.

But for real though: Live Captions will be a god send for a shit ton of Youtube videos that don't offer auto-transcribed (even though those are shit, admittedly) captions. If it's as good as the Live Transcription app they've released, it'll be real good.

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For instance: RedLetterMedia didn't have subs for a good long while. Why do you think I focused on Jay so much? :doge
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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #290 on: September 04, 2019, 04:43:44 AM »
Live caption might come in handy when the wife sends me voice messages during work.

I love gesture navigation and use it exclusively on my xiaomi so that's cool as well.

Opt out of ads retargeting - I don't believe you Google.

Focus mode is nice, although the ability to block certain sites like facebook in chrome would be more important for myself than blocking specific apps. Fake edit: Oh, it seems it actually that. Nice :)
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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #291 on: September 04, 2019, 09:51:13 AM »
System wide dark theme is so nice brehs  :rejoice

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #292 on: September 13, 2019, 12:46:31 PM »


Looking like October 15th for announcement day.

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #293 on: September 14, 2019, 09:48:53 PM »
https://9to5google.com/2019/09/14/needlefish-google-pixel-4a-2019/

We might be getting a Pixel 4a next month too, sorry Cindi. 😬

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #294 on: September 23, 2019, 07:28:32 AM »
any idea when/if google's call screening service will come to non-pixel devices? i'm sick of random banks calling me to tell me about new loans and credit cards

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #295 on: October 15, 2019, 11:58:51 AM »
Tasty, can you think of any reason why I shouldn't pre-order the 4XL just yet?

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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #296 on: October 15, 2019, 01:41:54 PM »
Tasty, can you think of any reason why I shouldn't pre-order the 4XL just yet?

...it's butt fuckin ugly is really the only justifiable one
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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #297 on: October 15, 2019, 02:27:54 PM »
You couldnt pay me to have this garbage
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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #298 on: October 15, 2019, 09:43:20 PM »
google need to ripoff samsungs selfie cam in screen, edge to edge display already.
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Re: Google Hardware Thread · Pixel Phones and Nest Homes
« Reply #299 on: October 15, 2019, 09:52:53 PM »
and their general build quality. S10e is easily the best phone i've owned despite the bloatware (mostly voided it's functionality and hidden any shite like bixby frm view, rerouted the hardware button etc), because it's extremely pretty, fast and not bordering on tablet proportions.

:whoo





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