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nudemacusers

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #19200 on: July 12, 2018, 12:14:41 AM »
So i wonder then if you’re able to criticize a developer who is “vERAfied” since the act of doing so means they have made their resetera account a personal space on a social media platform.

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benjipwns

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« Reply #19201 on: July 12, 2018, 12:15:28 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-much-income-gets-you-to-the-other-side.54650/
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The growing inequality in the country is very troubling, and I often worry for the future of the family I've started.

It seems to me that there is a 'line in the sand' where your location, assets and income will very much dictate which side of the economy you will exist in. We probably will no longer have a 3 tiered, strong middle-class centered country but rather the haves and the have-nots.

I am lucky to live in a big coastal hub city, but it also skews my perception of income. My friends and I talk about how $250k / year for a household feels like the right amount of money we need to make but that can't be right for the whole country. I'm not even sure if it's right for this area. What are your opinions?
:whatsthedeal

Bravotyler

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« Reply #19202 on: July 12, 2018, 12:18:26 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/biggest-german-%E2%80%9Enewspaper%E2%80%9C-bild-is-blatantly-racist-on-the-frontpage.54759/

i'm seeing a lot of vilifying media outlets in this thread!!!! :maf

Name one Bild story that was as impactful as Kotaku breaking the story about Prey 2.

benjipwns

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« Reply #19203 on: July 12, 2018, 12:18:54 AM »
excelsiorlef had some kind of a stroke in the world cup thread and hasn't posted since:
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Bien ce match la etait seulement un competition pour choisir qu'elle equipe a l'honneur d'etre la sacrifice aux pieds des Bleus.

Liberte, egalite, fraternite

Vive la France.

benjipwns

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« Reply #19204 on: July 12, 2018, 12:20:15 AM »
Quote from: Kirblar
Its a shame "Virtue Signalling" got coopted by rhe far right just like PC/SJW cause the original neutral conception of the term was legitimately useful.
:thinking

benjipwns

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« Reply #19205 on: July 12, 2018, 12:38:37 AM »
The games industry being shitty yet again, surprise. There needs to be a union.
I love how this is always the answer. And never more specific than "a union" as if everyone involved in games including producers/designers/directors/outsourcing/QA/contracts/etc. will be one big international bargaining unit.

benjipwns

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« Reply #19206 on: July 12, 2018, 12:42:30 AM »
it'd be great to see a ResetERA thread where all the experts explain how to create a single bargaining unit for all Ubisoft employees

After that, Nintendo should be a piece of cake. Though Sony will still be a toughy.

nudemacusers

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« Reply #19207 on: July 12, 2018, 12:47:19 AM »
We should start a forum poster’s union. Bork won’t silence these latex fart videos any longer.  :punch :punch
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benjipwns

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« Reply #19208 on: July 12, 2018, 12:57:08 AM »
i bet we won't even have to strike very long, just threaten it and they'll start caving to our demands!

optimus and assimilate, as the experts in left action, you lead us in the strike action!

Bore Expert

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« Reply #19209 on: July 12, 2018, 01:00:49 AM »
We should start a forum poster’s union. Bork won’t silence these latex fart videos any longer.  :punch :punch

Can’t truly silence a fart video if captions are available
 :rollsafe


Propagandhim

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« Reply #19210 on: July 12, 2018, 01:04:40 AM »
i bet we won't even have to strike very long, just threaten it and they'll start caving to our demands!

optimus and assimilate, as the experts in left action, you lead us in the strike action!

You're our fart smut Jimmy Hoffa now

benjipwns

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« Reply #19211 on: July 12, 2018, 01:06:32 AM »
You're our fart smut Jimmy Hoffa now
you trying to bury me under a football stadium?

agrajag

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« Reply #19212 on: July 12, 2018, 01:07:32 AM »
We should start a forum poster’s union. Bork won’t silence these latex fart videos any longer.  :punch :punch

he can't silence the farts if they're SBD

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« Reply #19213 on: July 12, 2018, 01:12:41 AM »
I understand very little of what has been posted in the last few pages.

TVC15

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« Reply #19214 on: July 12, 2018, 01:17:26 AM »
https://twitter.com/newmoneytrash/status/1017215372871602176

I love what is implied by this tweet. It implies that if it really was a SJW echo chamber, it would be like a group of intellectuals hanging out, all making extremely thoughtful and insightful posts. A beacon of rationality.

This is what he sees:
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When the reality it is more like this:
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More like this for the bottom pic:

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sphagnum

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« Reply #19215 on: July 12, 2018, 01:18:20 AM »
Quote from: Kirblar
Its a shame "Virtue Signalling" got coopted by rhe far right just like PC/SJW cause the original neutral conception of the term was legitimately useful.
:thinking

This is true


Trent Strong

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« Reply #19217 on: July 12, 2018, 01:53:09 AM »
i think i need a ban roundup for just this thread:
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User Banned (Permanent): Trolling, using a cultural pejorative associated with hate movements.
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It was kind of mansplaining. Mansplaining is thinking that you, a random person with a YouTube or Twitch channel, have the right to “provide feedback” to a 10 year veteran writer who wasn’t actually asking for it.
So by this definition, she was Womansplaining to the ENTIRE internet with the original post? That's kind of disgusting and sexist behavior don't you think?
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User banned (length under review) - Pushing false narratives to downplay institutional sexism, long history of similar behaviour.

Let's be honest, if it was a man who made the exact same comments as Jessica Price, there would be no controversy about the firing. The only reason people are up in arms is because it must be sexism, not that she's a shitty person or anything.
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User Banned (3 Days): Vilifying media outlets + accusing journalists of false reporting

Sites like Polygon and Waypoint are doing their best to frame the whole thing this way, basically ignoring reality. It’s gross af.
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User Banned (3 Days): Vilifying journalism + attempting to discredit feminism

No mather how hard gaming média tried, Common sense is winning, this os probably the worst case i ever Saw, trying to push One agenda, hiding facts and being extremely unfair to arenanet CEO and Deroir making them sexist pigs when sexism was nothing to do with the firing. They do more wrong than good to true feminism ideals.
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User Banned (3 Days): Drive-by posting dismissive gifs in sensitive threads, history of similar behavior.
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Again: dressing opinions with politeness doesn't excuse how wrong, hurtful or insensible are those opinions.
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User Banned (1 Week): Misrepresenting information, pushing a false narrative, vilifying journalism.

I'm not going to read the entire thread, but I followed the whole thing while it happened, and I want to say a few quick things:

1. Game writer Jessica Price posted multiple tweets talking about her narrative design philosophy (so yes, she was representing the company on twitter).
2. Community members offer feedback to that philosophy and dicuss politely with her. Price dismisses them with toxity (throwing the sexism card for no reason, insulting them, etc).
3. Another writer, Peter Fries, comes in to defend his partner's behaviour.
4. Reddit community gets angry at the unnecessary insults, fake claims of sexism and general toxic behavior from Price.
5. Anet fires both writers for attacking the community.
6. J. Price keeps believing that sexism is the reason why everything happened the way it did.
7. Video game journalists write pieces of news that twist the truth, presenting the harassers as the victims, and the community members as the harassers, carefully crafting a fictious narrative to their readers.
8. The community started to trash video game journalists for twisting the truth.
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User Banned (1 Day): Hostility + History of downplaying the concerns of others

It's actually embarrassing. How the fuck do people come up with this nonsense?

By asking a polite question, the Twitter user was exhibiting a "hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women" to use the definition. Give me a fucking break.
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User banned (length under review) for dismissing harassment from hate movements and antagonizing other members in the thread

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A bit of a clumsy analogy lol
Thank you.

My point being that it is very clearly about one focal point and any stronger question than "should she be fired for being an asshole" is up to speculation, examination of the American workforce, and agendas, but not because it's actually about this.

Case in point, if she wasn't an asshole, none of this would be happening. She'd still have her job, feelings would be spared, sexists would... still be sexists, but that's life.

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Do you believe these "desperate" anti-GG weirdos are the only ones bringing up GG?
Besides the much moreso desperate, actual GamerGaters? Yes. Yes I do.

The time came out like an explosion and faded just as quickly. Trump got elected, the victims of the movement recovered, everyone moved on, except for the ones who never shut up about it.
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User Banned (Permanent): Dehumanising women + history of misogyny; account still in the junior phase.

Some of you need to be more transparent and just say outspoken feminist women shouldn't be held accountable for their actions regardless if others would face same results.

She was an asshole on twitter and got dealt with. How many countless times since twitter or facebook has blown up resulted in people losing their jobs over shit they say on social media over non job related stuff ?

Also celebrating the death of a man dying of cancer for the last few years ultimately assumes that this "person"
lacks even human decency. Should have been fired then.
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User Banned (3 Days): Repeatedly pushing false narratives; derailment
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Can I not what? BDS has been nothing but a jerk this entire thread, and got away with it. How is that fine?
hmmmmm i wonder why there was no punishment
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User banned (2 days): Repeated bad faith commentary; constructing strawman arguments

"I don't believe Anet or other game devs have any capacity for individual thought when it comes to employee management. It must be GG, not the fact that she violated their stance on customer treatment and feedback"

Or conversely:

"Female devs experiencing harassment should have no accountability in social media"
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User banned (1 week): downplaying sexism and online harassment campaigns, account still in junior stage

There's also the fact that Price used sexims as a shield to deflect the criticism that she was getting from the Guild wars 2 community for her tweets when her being a woman had nothing with it. That is not okay.
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User Banned (1 Day): Spamming

Peter Fries.

I'm just going to do this to every post coming in not engaging with anything that was said and pretending how their hottake of this being so justified cause "both sides or similar". Cause that's the level of answers that are deserved.

At mods: I'm totally fine getting a temp for this.
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User Banned (2 Days): Inflammatory Commentary + Personal attacks against another member

Fucking yikes post #2. Some of ya'll are literally insane.
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User Banned (Permanent): Malicious trolling, account still in the junior phase

QUEENPRISCILLA

Good lord.

Hot Slice

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #19218 on: July 12, 2018, 02:02:39 AM »
Hey y'all, long time no see. What's goin-

*reads past few pages*

OK then...

BlueTsunami

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #19219 on: July 12, 2018, 02:08:21 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10290998/

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On the Jessica Price firing, I agree with ArenaNet here.

It's this quote: "The next rando asshat who attempts to explain the concept of branching dialogue to me ... is getting instablocked."

This is exactly why I would have fired her without question. She lacked restraint and a respect for the players. Her gender should not a play a role in this. ArenaNet fired both Price (female) and Fries (male, who also took her side). Firing both was of them was SPOT on.

Her ego is her problem. She had a chance to teach, ignore or debate and instead chose instead to rant. My advice on your next job: stay off social media until you learn restraint.
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The above is the opinion of a friend of mine who was the HR lead of a 1000+ employee organization and is now the CPO of another major company.

Uh oh, Industry support for Price has dropped to 89%.  :(

And no one acknowledges the only professional take on HR in that thread. And if Price is as abbrassive offline as her e-personality comes off as, someone on high probably wanted to eject that wound ball of ego into the horizon.
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benjipwns

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« Reply #19220 on: July 12, 2018, 02:11:20 AM »
no! no! this all happened within six hours! because of the unrelenting pressure of a subreddit hate mob with ties to the Russians!

benjipwns

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« Reply #19221 on: July 12, 2018, 02:13:01 AM »
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Why is this thread still open? Honest question. There have been a variety of opinions presented and the cycle of any kind of productive discussion has long run its course. There's nothing to be gained by keeping this one open.
THREAD WHINING

benjipwns

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« Reply #19222 on: July 12, 2018, 02:22:05 AM »
Cindi bumped her post-election GAF thread: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/on-the-election-result-racism-and-blaming-white-people.1313013/post-253331873
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Reject identity politics. Since making this thread nearly two years ago I have seen the damage identify politics achieves. Rampant victim hood rather than building the courage to live your life. Constant excuses. Placing identity above all else, even ones own core values.

Young black people have become what we hate. And that’s the saddest part.

I stand with white people. You all aren’t racist. Black people can be racist too, as my prior post history shows.

The idea that you can only be racist if you wield institutional power is false and poisonous. It detracts any kind of responsibility from others and allows a society to endlessly point fingers
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Reject identity politics today and hug your white, black, brown, or Asian friend.
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Saw the light when I made this thread years ago.

It’s funny to see my peers double down. Do any of them seem happy constantly finding something to be offended about regarding their identity? Nope. It’s a miserable existence and leads intense anger and vindictiveness. I know from experience.

I’ve been on a Michael Jackson kick the past few weeks for some reason and was struck when I rewatched Black and White’s music video.


Can you imagine a song with the that message being made today? I remember in the 90’s, and maybe this is the due to the fact I was young then but not that young, the mantra was “everyone can be racist and you shouldn’t judge people by the color of their skin.” But now people say all white people are racist. What happened?

(I know what happened but I want to see what people think)

It’s depressing watching it actually.
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I haven't watched it because Joe Rogan gives me a head ache in large doses but I completely agree that left and right need to in dialogue. I used to reject that. I used to say,"talking to white people about racism is pointless." I had many an argument about stating that very thing here on these forums. But I've seen the damage it does. Not only does it make the "other side" (I use quotations because I think seeing them as sides are exactly why we are in this situation) understand you even LESS, but it dilutes and weakens your own argument because you are never challenged, never learn how to peacefully extol your ideas. Guys like MLK and Malcolm X expressed their points on national television for all to see. They tried to talk. They embraced open dialogue.

Funny how in a time of open dialogue, the Montgomery Bus Boycott was able to get its goal (desegregating bus seats) in a year. Meanwhile it's been over 5 years since BLM started and no one knows what plans BLM has. What has BLM accomplished in these 5-6 years? Jack shit. Why? Because they have decided they don't want a seat at the table to begin with. Why have things gotten even more divisive? Because one side has decided that it's not worth discussing.

This is why it's good to look at both sides and see what you think they're right or wrong about.

The left is wrong about abortion. It is evil and future generations will judge us for the millions killed.

But the right is wrong about sex education, which has been proven to lower teen sex rates which decreases the need for an abortion.

Things like that.
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I am a capitalist. Communism is a poison that seems attractive but slowly kills due to its embrace of the "collective". The "collective" as we have seen, is capable of evil. But like with many humans we might not see it as evil or even embrace because we part of the "group" or "the collective". If you dare challenge the collective you are seen as a threat. Communism is dangerous and un-American and should be thrown off the face of this Earth.


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You guys are black right? You should reset the Black Culture Thread just to fuck with the old misogynistic BCT who left, I would actually go to era just to read their drama
I made the first BCT. I might as well.

benjipwns

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #19223 on: July 12, 2018, 02:25:08 AM »
she's also spreading her transphobia on GAF:
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/on-who-making-trans-no-longer-a-mental-disorder-and-its-damaging-effect-on-the-trans-community.1463640/

so marrec and any body dysmorphic monsters/freaks can head over there and start meetups to oppress true trans people

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Yeah, that’s what I was waiting for. Cindi. belittling me and a number of other trans people Because we aren’t the right kind of trans people and it scares her. She did that a lot before. Actually quite famous for it. I’m just going to bow out of this thread now because you guys have the trans person who is willing to validate all of your hatred of people you don’t understand .
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No thanks. This is a dance that we have done in the past. It doesn’t actually really matter if I clarified to you exactly what kind of gender dysphoria I have. It doesn’t matter if I advocate for my non-binary friends. You will still hate them. You will still think that they are making your life and your car is which yo no thanks. This is a dance that we have done in the past. It doesn’t actually really matter if I clarified to you exactly what kind of gender dysphoria I have. It doesn’t matter if I advocate for my non-binary friends. You will still hate them. You will still think that they are making your life worse. I mean you’re already completely living in a different reality with the whole guns black people Democrat thing. You start at a good intentioned position like black people should be able to have guns to defend themselves and then you go so far into toxicity against anyone who doesn’t agree with you. I really don’t feel like having the same argument ever again. Like you come back in here and start saying all this shit about how I scare you and how all these new cheeseburgers like me are in sane and making things worse and you expect me to want to sit down and talk to you about it now. I haven’t forgotten the trans women that you’ve accused of not actually being trans. I haven’t forgotten at the times you’ve literally laughed and celebrated their misfortune because they disagree with you.

But most of all it kind of makes me sad now that because of the nature of a lot of the people on this site everything I say will be completely invalidated because you offered the exact opposite opinion pretty much 100% of the time and that’s the one they are always going to listen to because what they already believed
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Yeah, since we’ve mended and found common ground... you may have been turning me on a little bit... in a “damn this fucking bitch” bite my lip and grumble kind of way :p
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counterhit

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« Reply #19224 on: July 12, 2018, 02:29:38 AM »
That thread is interesting as the moderation clearly isn't on the side of the majority.  Aggressive posters are absolutely being protected for being on the "right side".

Not a good look.

"Interesting" in that GAF has always been that way to some extent and it celebrated whipping the community into compliance over several years, esp post GG. Insert here some corny ass Sam Jackson gif. (Poor evilore, if only he had noticed in time :( )

Momo

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #19225 on: July 12, 2018, 02:35:42 AM »
Hey y'all, long time no see. What's goin-

*reads past few pages*

OK then...
You chose a bad time to ride into town partner.

VomKriege

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« Reply #19226 on: July 12, 2018, 02:37:03 AM »
Politeness is harassment.
Responding is hijacking.
Reset is Neo.

I hope some posters over at ERA realized just how Orwellian the forum sometimes read. Admitting Price did overreact doesn't in any way detract from the debates regarding lay offs, worker protection, expectations of representing your employer at all times, individual freedom to vent sometimes, fandom toxicity or Internet mobs. And yet, here we are with people obviously twisting minor facts out of shape in the name of total ideological consistency.

I sort of expect that when the subject is brought up somewhere two months from now, some will deny the "good narrative" is even contentious, just like in the Rapp controversy.
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benjipwns

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #19227 on: July 12, 2018, 02:40:46 AM »
Don't forget that Boogie tried to pull that moderate-style polite apology game shit on Anita but she saw straight through it and told him to go fuck himself. :rejoice

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« Reply #19228 on: July 12, 2018, 02:59:11 AM »
i think i need a ban roundup for just this thread:

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User Banned (Permanent): Dehumanising women + history of misogyny; account still in the junior phase.

Some of you need to be more transparent and just say outspoken feminist women shouldn't be held accountable for their actions regardless if others would face same results.

She was an asshole on twitter and got dealt with. How many countless times since twitter or facebook has blown up resulted in people losing their jobs over shit they say on social media over non job related stuff ?

Also celebrating the death of a man dying of cancer for the last few years ultimately assumes that this "person"
lacks even human decency. Should have been fired then.

Now, I agree he was dehumanizing her by putting person in quotes. But the craziest thing about this one in particular is that usually groups say "Don't take an individual and paint the whole group with it!" But here, he is specifically talking about an individual, refers to her as a person, not a woman, and the ban message suggests she represents the entire group, since it's "dehumanizing women."

Like, if a member of a group does a bad thing, the group separates itself from the individual. But if a member of a group is a victim, well, the whole group wants in on that action, and will muscle their way right on in.

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« Reply #19229 on: July 12, 2018, 03:05:53 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10302722/

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As I've said elsewhere in the thread, the Kamiya comparison is not to ask whether or not he should be fired (because he obviously won't be), but rather why everybody loves it when he dunks on fools on Twitter but is up in arms when Price does it. There are several possibilities:

1. Kamiya's targets "deserve" to be made fun of, and Price's target didn't
2. Kamiya is okay because he's being funny while Price was more direct
3. There's a major double standard when men use insulting language versus when women do it

I think it's mostly number 3 mixed with some of numbers 1 and 2; if Price was dunking on some dude who totally deserved it, there'd still be at least a small faction of players calling for her head anyway (see also: the GG-led campaign against her when she was first hired), while men often don't seem to find it acceptable when women use insulting humor instead of directness, so if she had dismissed her target with a joke or comedy bit, people would still be angry.

The reality is that it's a double standard. Kamiya is cool and funny because he doesn't take anybody's shit on Twitter but we don't extend that standard to Price because women don't get that privilege. Women must smile and nod at all times and cannot ever show disrespect to their betters at any time, regardless of justification.

Someone tell that fucker that JK Rowling exists and she has been throwing ether at idiots for a long time now and yet publishers still haven't let her go.

nudemacusers

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #19230 on: July 12, 2018, 03:08:16 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/chloe-bennet-quake-from-agents-of-shield-is-dating-logan-paul.54853/

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I know and love Chloe
Do you?

I wonder if this thread will be as embarrassing as the grimes one.
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benjipwns

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #19231 on: July 12, 2018, 03:11:09 AM »
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At what point of the asshole ranking would it be ok to raise an eyebrow? Logan Paul is pretty high up there after all.

benjipwns

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« Reply #19232 on: July 12, 2018, 03:12:48 AM »
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That's exactly why I made the thread. Agents of Shield is my absolute favorite show, and I've been following the cast for years. I always thought she was a great example of someone who was able to overcome racism and use her leading role as a platform to educate people on the unfairness she has faced in her career. That's why this news is upsetting to me. But people are gonna call me jealous and creepy and so on... okay I guess.

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« Reply #19233 on: July 12, 2018, 03:20:22 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/chloe-bennet-quake-from-agents-of-shield-is-dating-logan-paul.54853/

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I know and love Chloe
Do you?

I wonder if this thread will be as embarrassing as the grimes one.
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Lol none of you have favorite celebrities that you follow on social media? Everyone got all up in arms over Grimes and Elon but my commentary on the intensely contradictory nature of this has everyone saying I'm creepy. Ok
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10303083/
i think his profile pic makes it creepy tbh

top of the page  :cody

Nope
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who is ted danson?

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« Reply #19234 on: July 12, 2018, 03:21:56 AM »
Politeness is harassment.
Responding is hijacking.
Reset is Neo.

I hope some posters over at ERA realized just how Orwellian the forum sometimes read. Admitting Price did overreact doesn't in any way detract from the debates regarding lay offs, worker protection, expectations of representing your employer at all times, individual freedom to vent sometimes, fandom toxicity or Internet mobs. And yet, here we are with people obviously twisting minor facts out of shape in the name of total ideological consistency.

I sort of expect that when the subject is brought up somewhere two months from now, some will deny the "good narrative" is even contentious, just like in the Rapp controversy.

The Rapp situation was hilarious on GAF because they went from 100% meltdown to 100% no talking about her real fast once her "moonlighting" job came to, er, light.  :lol :lol
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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #19235 on: July 12, 2018, 03:24:32 AM »
that reminds me of my second favorite part of this fuckery singularity:
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You never did tell me what job you have where you're free to insult customers with reckless abandon because I want in. Where do I apply?

Any decent job out there.
Ah, the public sector.

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I work for a company owned by state government who actively promotoes pushing back against rude and hostile customers so yeah

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You know a post is bad when all the people with the most terrible, ignorant, and unsympathetic opinions throughout this thread are agreeing with it and complimenting it.

It’s funny how absolutely zero things have been learned or picked up by these posters after engaging with them. Absolutely zero movement or development of an informed opinion. Just the same victim blaming without understanding the context as what this thread began with. Maybe this thread and others are just a complete waste of time and everyone is simply talking in bad faith.
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« Reply #19236 on: July 12, 2018, 03:26:25 AM »
BDS CALLIN US OUT
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why do people keep barking
Apparently my super-controversial "bark bark bark" comment earlier in the thread really did a number on some people and now the Bore totally well-meaning ERA users want my head.
and after i declared them to be an underrated poster smh, so much for loyalty

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« Reply #19237 on: July 12, 2018, 03:26:28 AM »

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« Reply #19238 on: July 12, 2018, 03:27:27 AM »
BDS CALLIN US OUT
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why do people keep barking
Apparently my super-controversial "bark bark bark" comment earlier in the thread really did a number on some people and now the Bore totally well-meaning ERA users want my head.
Hopefully resetera mods don’t capitulate to the behaviors of a virulent hate site.
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« Reply #19239 on: July 12, 2018, 03:27:44 AM »
BDS CALLIN US OUT
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why do people keep barking
Apparently my super-controversial "bark bark bark" comment earlier in the thread really did a number on some people and now the Bore totally well-meaning ERA users want my head.
and after i declared them to be an underrated poster smh, so much for loyalty

Woof woof, woof woof.
Always with the negative vibes man.
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« Reply #19240 on: July 12, 2018, 03:29:01 AM »
Hopefully resetera mods don’t capitulate to the behaviors of a virulent hate site.
i think you're confusing your moderator campaigns, remember NeoGAF.com is now SUPER CHILL AGAIN

benjipwns

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #19241 on: July 12, 2018, 03:33:51 AM »
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/can-we-get-the-ability-to-see-ban-reasons.1463647/#post-253332801
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I'm working on transparency and accountability measures getting more formalized so that everyone is on the same page between the community and the mods -- who should be allies, not enemies -- and also protections and cross-vetting mechanisms in place more stringently so that I can someday take a vacation ohmygod haha. The current team has been vetted and picked based on all my experience and what I've learned from the last year's bs, and XF is way better about logging in general, so that significantly reduces the chances of fuckery, especially long-term incognito fuckery like we experienced with a handful of bad apples in the 50+ user ex-mod team. Most of them were fine, but a handful of people can do all the damage.

Right now I'm focusing on other R&D projects and the Ban Justice initiative since I'm overseeing all the moderation closely every day to ensure it's on the level and to help train the new team on an ongoing basis. However, I have some solutions I've been working on on my whiteboard and this stuff won't be neglected. I recognize the importance of transparency with the community as a necessary check and balance. There also needs to be improved transparency between moderators too, since rogue mods acting alone leads to bullshit. I've had measures in place set up to address that to some degree since 2004, but new gaf, new generation of tech, new policies.

Stay tuned and thanks for the feedback.

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« Reply #19242 on: July 12, 2018, 03:35:08 AM »
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You know a post is bad when all the people with the most terrible, ignorant, and unsympathetic opinions throughout this thread are agreeing with it and complimenting it.

It’s funny how absolutely zero things have been learned or picked up by these posters after engaging with them. Absolutely zero movement or development of an informed opinion. Just the same victim blaming without understanding the context as what this thread began with. Maybe this thread and others are just a complete waste of time and everyone is simply talking in bad faith.

Just five or six posts down:
User Banned (3 Days): Extremely Hostile Rhetoric. Dismissive attitude towards other viewpoints.

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It's a shame Fries got fired, but he got involved in something stupid and got burned.

I have no qualms with Price being fired. She's a vile woman who was happy TotalBiscuit died along with a number of other eyebrow-raising things. She verbally abused a PARTNER to Arenanet and made a gender issue out of literally nothing. She also attacked other people aside from Deroir.

And lol @ anyone that thinks there is a shred of malice in Deroir's tweet(s).


I mostly feel bad for the dude who got banned for spreading misinformation when he called the mods biased  :lol

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« Reply #19243 on: July 12, 2018, 03:36:52 AM »
um, i think the mods, especially the mod captains would know better about the mods than some random alt account sleeper agent

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« Reply #19244 on: July 12, 2018, 03:55:29 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/chloe-bennet-quake-from-agents-of-shield-is-dating-logan-paul.54853/page-4#post-10303756

Labor bb between this and the anet defense you’re treading on toxic optics territory. Don’t lionpride yourself.

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And to all the people saying I'm jealous and mocking me and whatever, thanks for reinforcing the idea that a man can't have a female role model without it simply being a thin excuse for wanting to fuck her. Nice work.
Why would an Asian American actress be a role model for a white dude  ???
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« Reply #19245 on: July 12, 2018, 03:57:15 AM »
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That's exactly why I made the thread. Agents of Shield is my absolute favorite show, and I've been following the cast for years. I always thought she was a great example of someone who was able to overcome racism and use her leading role as a platform to educate people on the unfairness she has faced in her career. That's why this news is upsetting to me. But people are gonna call me jealous and creepy and so on... okay I guess.

First Grimes and now Chloe Bennett

Just wait until Margaret Cho fucks David Dukes.

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« Reply #19246 on: July 12, 2018, 04:10:36 AM »
it may just be the afro brazillian blood flowing in my veins but ive always thought of chloe bennett as my role model

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« Reply #19247 on: July 12, 2018, 04:19:48 AM »
it may just be the afro brazillian blood flowing in my veins but ive always thought of chloe bennett as my role model
Earth, Hitler, 1938.

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« Reply #19249 on: July 12, 2018, 04:34:33 AM »
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I'm mad that someone I look up to is dating a racist asshole and that gives you incel vibes.

You know what? This website has become a hellhole and respectful discussion is fucking impossible.

Bye.

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« Reply #19250 on: July 12, 2018, 04:42:11 AM »
i gotta admit i thought you guys who were saying the site would collapse within a year were nuts, i figured GAF would bounce back simply from the release of the supply/demand limitation it had imposed on itself plus the small prodding of Evilore to actual action but ERA would trudge along for a couple years with like a Trump re-election or Nintendo failure causing the place to burn down

but i've been surprised at how totally checked out the admins seemingly are, and they even pulled Evilore's tactic of throwing 20 new mods at the site as a "solution"

and it's not even an ideological "eating their own" type thing like a lot of people want to make it out to be, it's a personalities eating their own thing, they could all be conservatives and these same personalities would be tearing apart the secret lieberals who support AMNESTY Kavanaugh over TRUE PRO-LIFE CONSERVATIVE Bennett

this is why we're so lucky to have an active admin like demi who hops on important things asap, not to mention the YUM! Brands located tag-team of Joe and dogmod....if only something could be done about bork's desire to wear Steve Youngblood's skin...

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« Reply #19251 on: July 12, 2018, 04:48:41 AM »
guy with incel looking face pic: People won't respect my right to judge girls for dating chads. Enough, I'm quitting the internet. Goodbye!

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« Reply #19252 on: July 12, 2018, 04:52:28 AM »
I was a shithead bully once. Nothing severe, and obviously I'm far from perfect given that I'm enabling some bad behavior by caring too much about what a celebrity does, but it took me Y E A R S to understand why what I was doing was wrong and actually take steps to atone for my mistakes and start giving back to the causes and people I had harmed in the past. Given Logan's general attitude and the way he continues to present himself, I have no doubt that his apology was insincere and that he has taken no steps to undo what he has done.

duckroll rightfully called me out here, and way back when I went back and forth with him in the old forum about Anita Sarkeesian and her kickstarter. I was 100% wrong then, and I'm incredibly embarrassed to have held that and many other harmful opinions. I know what change feels like. Logan Paul is not changed.
wow, good lookin out headwalk

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« Reply #19253 on: July 12, 2018, 04:54:29 AM »
i'm surprised but not that surprised that somehow the one person subpar spatula is going to bat for is Logan Paul considering how scorched earth he always is :lol

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« Reply #19254 on: July 12, 2018, 05:04:53 AM »
imagine being bullied by that goober

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« Reply #19255 on: July 12, 2018, 05:52:19 AM »
Deplorable behavior or not, Logan Paul is a total Chad.  :trumps

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« Reply #19256 on: July 12, 2018, 05:57:31 AM »
i think we're supposed to worry about incel domestic terrorist gamergaters now anyway

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« Reply #19257 on: July 12, 2018, 06:15:07 AM »
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How about don't run your company shitty and throw your employees under the bus if you don't want it thrown back in your face? You know glassdoor exists right? She's going to be fine after this because unlike hurt gamer feelings, plenty of devs are throwing their weight behind her because ArenaNet fucked up.

And what the fuck is with all your creeps just "dropping on by" with specific tweets from last year? Stop being fucking creeps.

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How much do you fucking know her twitter man, or are you just cribbing notes from kiwifarms?
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10305920/

All of this because a dude merely brought up a tweet from JP she made half a year ago.

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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #19258 on: July 12, 2018, 06:28:21 AM »
When dealing with the GG tactics of like amassing a massive fucking rap sheet of a persons perceived transgressions for use across multiple platforms. Yes "just happened to stumble upon this tweet from last year" is FUCKING CREEPY.
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Re: The Other Forums Trash Thread for Other Forums' Trash
« Reply #19259 on: July 12, 2018, 06:34:08 AM »
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It feels unnecessary to spell it out but: The only people benefitting from racist shitheads being defended are racist shitheads themselves. Unless you are one yourself, why are you so eager to defend Logan Paul?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/chloe-bennet-quake-from-agents-of-shield-is-dating-logan-paul.54853/page-8#post-10305311
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