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« Reply #180 on: September 25, 2019, 07:11:54 PM »
it's certainly an... interesting series of tweets, with almost 60k likes though it seems like it resonates with enough people to merit note

does mesh with my distaste for the doomsday lean, stuff like that is always around and will only be right in a broken-clock-right-twice-a-day sense, but if it works it works I guess?

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« Reply #181 on: October 15, 2019, 01:51:00 PM »
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« Reply #183 on: October 15, 2019, 04:54:39 PM »
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« Reply #184 on: October 17, 2019, 09:10:04 PM »

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« Reply #185 on: November 05, 2019, 03:18:25 AM »
Trump Serves Notice to Quit Paris Climate Agreement

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/climate/trump-paris-agreement-climate.html

Effective 4 November 2020 (after the election).
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« Reply #187 on: November 28, 2019, 04:35:11 PM »
https://twitter.com/business/status/1200078223037673472

Exactly what I've been saying, seems at least in the scientific community reason prevails.

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=44608.msg2624242#msg2624242
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« Reply #188 on: November 28, 2019, 05:42:26 PM »
https://twitter.com/Europarl_EN/status/1200079023554121728

The EU has declared a Climate Emergency.

Time to cut off those French farm subsidies  8)
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« Reply #189 on: November 28, 2019, 05:45:45 PM »
"By educating young girls about reproductive options."

Really tackling the root of the problem here. :itagaki

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« Reply #190 on: November 28, 2019, 06:01:53 PM »
Just put chemicals in the drinking water of large overcrowded urban areas and ban the import and export of bottled water.

It won't hurt wildlife because there is almost none in urban areas.
Artificially preserved human habitats that depend on imported drinking water will cease to exist.

You starve millions to save billions or you wait until it is too late to control the population growth and everyone dies :idont
We're literally 100 years too late to stop this trend in any other meaningful way.
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« Reply #191 on: November 28, 2019, 06:06:26 PM »
these takes :jeb

I can't get on board with this, far as I can muster is encouraging all nations to aim to keep population growth at ~replacement rate :goty2

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« Reply #192 on: November 28, 2019, 06:10:09 PM »
It is pretty clear now that Elon Musk only intends to save a lucky few from the coming disaster with his bulletproof trucks and we won't make it Mars in time.
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« Reply #193 on: November 28, 2019, 06:18:24 PM »
less people = less environmental impact true, but it's always some other poor bastard's job to bite it for that cause

I like how the average US/EU/AUS citizen uses 95000x the resources of your typical Ugandan but the solution will be 'population control'

shhh... don't mention Chinese industry is outsourcing pollution and not just jobs to an exploitation favourable environment to the Euro's with their supposed enviro progress

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« Reply #194 on: November 29, 2019, 01:29:38 AM »
We can start by getting rid of the dutch. What are they good for, anyway.

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« Reply #195 on: November 29, 2019, 02:37:23 AM »
We can start by getting rid of the dutch. What are they good for, anyway.

How many Dutch here anyway, three atleast? They seem weirdly over-represented here.

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« Reply #196 on: November 29, 2019, 07:08:48 AM »
We can start by getting rid of the dutch. What are they good for, anyway.

How many Dutch here anyway, three atleast? They seem weirdly over-represented here.

i think it just looks that way because germans, spanish and frenchies are more likely to seek out online forums in their respective language.

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« Reply #197 on: November 29, 2019, 07:57:19 AM »
I like how the average US/EU/AUS citizen uses 95000x the resources of your typical Ugandan but the solution will be 'population control'. We're fucked lol

Don’t worry about Uganda, Esch. I’ll take care of them once I have my Cybertruck.
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« Reply #198 on: November 29, 2019, 01:49:02 PM »
We can start by getting rid of the dutch. What are they good for, anyway.
Google siswet, brah.  ::) :nsfw 

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« Reply #199 on: December 14, 2019, 08:40:12 PM »
https://twitter.com/business/status/1200078223037673472

Exactly what I've been saying, seems at least in the scientific community reason prevails.

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=44608.msg2624242#msg2624242

You also said we should declare war on Brazil--something incredibly degrading to the environment--to stop the intentional burning of the Amazon by Brazilians.

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« Reply #200 on: December 14, 2019, 09:15:13 PM »
https://twitter.com/business/status/1200078223037673472

Exactly what I've been saying, seems at least in the scientific community reason prevails.

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=44608.msg2624242#msg2624242

You also said we should declare war on Brazil--something incredibly degrading to the environment--to stop the intentional burning of the Amazon by Brazilians.

Well, now we have both halves of his foreign policy re: Brazil. He can't possibly be German now that I think about it to nurse a grievance so deep and cutting.

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« Reply #201 on: December 15, 2019, 04:00:57 AM »
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1205959214763511808

:beli no takesies backsies!

French has a similar idiom, "avoir/être le dos au mur" - literally means to have one's / be with one's back to the wall, meaning you have to face / address something.

Is that not a thing in english, or have you delicate little things erased it because it's not PC or something?

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« Reply #202 on: December 15, 2019, 05:29:51 AM »
English has a ton of idioms based on walls*. It might be why she did a straight translation from Swedish, besides the fact that European languages share a bunch of idioms.

Saying "push" instead of "put" would have avoided any misunderstandings, but it's understandable why she didn't. Those who don't despise her or are out for boomer scalps themselves probably read it that way without her explanation. :yeshrug

* https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/wall

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« Reply #203 on: December 15, 2019, 09:41:59 AM »
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1205959214763511808

:beli no takesies backsies!

French has a similar idiom, "avoir/être le dos au mur" - literally means to have one's / be with one's back to the wall, meaning you have to face / address something.

Is that not a thing in english, or have you delicate little things erased it because it's not PC or something?

Quite the opposite actually, in English putting someone against the wall means having them face execution by firing squad
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« Reply #204 on: December 15, 2019, 10:41:52 AM »
Doubly so in Utah where the firing squad is still legal and people on death row used to have a choice. If you picked firing squad, you get firing squad.  It is an alternate method now as it is in Mississippi and Oklahoma.

https://kutv.com/news/local/court-denies-death-row-inmates-appeal-to-be-executed-by-firing-squad

Snowing the next few days here in Texas. Also snowed here in October. The climate changes quickly here in the Panhandle.

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« Reply #205 on: December 15, 2019, 02:48:44 PM »
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1205959214763511808

:beli no takesies backsies!

French has a similar idiom, "avoir/être le dos au mur" - literally means to have one's / be with one's back to the wall, meaning you have to face / address something.

Is that not a thing in english, or have you delicate little things erased it because it's not PC or something?

"back against the wall" is a thing in English along with other wall sayings, but Yeti covered things perfectly
also helps people want to be extra obtuse

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« Reply #206 on: December 15, 2019, 05:50:05 PM »
I guess it's just another case of "We can't be arsed to learn any foreign language :hmph but DON'T YOU DARE not speak perfect english :rage "

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« Reply #207 on: December 15, 2019, 05:52:01 PM »
It might be why she did a straight translation from Swedish, besides the fact that European languages share a bunch of idioms.

Swedish and English are both germanic languages :bolo

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« Reply #208 on: December 15, 2019, 06:43:17 PM »
It might be why she did a straight translation from Swedish, besides the fact that European languages share a bunch of idioms.

Swedish and English are both germanic languages :bolo
I wrote Germanic initially. I don't have data either way, so I cast a broader net to be safe. :yeshrug

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« Reply #209 on: December 15, 2019, 09:28:39 PM »
I guess it's just another case of "We can't be arsed to learn any foreign language :hmph but DON'T YOU DARE not speak perfect english :rage "

If you are suffering from a hate-boner for America that has lasted more than 4 months after being banned by resetera, please see a doctor. 

Edit: I forgot. Google translate to the rescue!

Om du lider av en hat-boner för Amerika som har varat mer än fyra månader efter att ha förbjudits av resetera, vänligen kontakta en läkare.

如果您遭受了美国的仇恨之情,而这种疾病在被resetera禁止后已经持续了超过4个月,请去看医生。

あなたがアメリカの憎悪に苦しんでおり、それがリセットセラによって禁止されてから4ヶ月以上続いた場合、医師に相談してください。

Si sufre de una odio-odio por América que ha durado más de 4 meses después de haber sido prohibido por resetera, consulte a un médico.

Если вы страдаете от разжигания ненависти к Америке, которое длилось более 4 месяцев после запрета ресетерами, обратитесь к врачу.

Ma tha thu a ’fulang le gràin-fuath airson Ameireagaidh a mhaireas barrachd air 4 mìosan às deidh dhut a bhith air a thoirmeasg le resetera, feuch dotair fhaicinn.

Si vous souffrez d'une haine-boner pour l'Amérique qui a duré plus de 4 mois après avoir été interdite par resetera, veuillez consulter un médecin.

Wenn Sie unter einem Hassboner für Amerika leiden, der mehr als 4 Monate nach dem Verbot durch resetera gedauert hat, suchen Sie bitte einen Arzt auf.

Os ydych chi'n dioddef casineb cas yn America sydd wedi para mwy na 4 mis ar ôl cael eich gwahardd gan resetera, ewch i weld meddyg.

Se si soffre di un disodio per l'America che dura da più di 4 mesi dopo essere stato bandito da resetera, consultare un medico.

Resetera tarafından yasaklandıktan sonra 4 aydan fazla süren Amerika için nefret dolu bir kemikten muzdaripseniz, lütfen bir doktora görünün.

اگر از آمریكایی ناشی از نفرت برای آمریكا رنج می برید كه بیش از 4 ماه پس از ممنوعیت تحریم باقیمانده است ، لطفاً به پزشك مراجعه كنید.

Uma uhlushwa i-boner yenzondo yaseMelika ehlala izinyanga ezingaphezu kwezine ngemuva kokuvinjelwa yi-resetera, sicela ubheke udokotela.

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« Reply #210 on: December 16, 2019, 02:57:33 AM »
That applies to anglophones in general, no just muhrica, you twat :bolo

And just FYI I never had an account there :lol

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« Reply #211 on: December 16, 2019, 03:12:46 AM »
Ok, Frenchy  ::)
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« Reply #212 on: December 20, 2019, 05:30:11 PM »
Apparently the tipping point has been reached, meaning the green lung of our planet is basically beyond recovery.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/top-scientists-warn-of-an-amazon-tipping-point/2019/12/20/9c9be954-233e-11ea-bed5-880264cc91a9_story.html

Good thing the global community didn't step up and take any drastic steps like overthrow the science- and reality-denying, quasi-fascist government responsible for this very predictable development and/or send UN troops to protect the remaining Amazon rain forest for all of humanity, because that would have been wrong.
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« Reply #213 on: December 20, 2019, 06:08:32 PM »
Occam  :gun poor people living in slums

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« Reply #214 on: December 20, 2019, 06:14:34 PM »
Right. Anyway, they get to lead long and healthy lives now, like the rest of us.
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« Reply #215 on: December 21, 2019, 07:21:01 PM »
Here's a sort of realtime tracker of babies being born
https://neal.fun/baby-map/

Reducing emissions by a percentage point or two is not going to make a dent.

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« Reply #216 on: December 21, 2019, 07:26:42 PM »
Ironically there's nothing in history that kills people faster than fucking up their environment
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« Reply #217 on: December 21, 2019, 07:29:55 PM »
occam really is an autist at a level we haven't seen for a while

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« Reply #218 on: December 21, 2019, 07:37:09 PM »
Here's a sort of realtime tracker of babies being born
https://neal.fun/baby-map/

Reducing emissions by a percentage point or two is not going to make a dent.

The Netherlands, with a population under 18 million, produces more CO2 than The Philippines (pop 100 million), Nigeria (200 million), or Bangladesh (161 million).

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« Reply #219 on: December 21, 2019, 07:46:34 PM »
Fortunately Nintex will be underwater soon enough :aah


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« Reply #220 on: December 21, 2019, 07:47:58 PM »
occam really is an autist at a level we haven't seen for a while

It's the good kind atleast, in that it's entertaining and not a potential threat to people unlike some other posters.

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« Reply #221 on: December 21, 2019, 07:50:16 PM »
We're already at a 23% reduction since the 1990's and will soon hit the 25% reduction target.

The challenge for our country has always been its size.
Going by Wikipedi aThe Phliipines is 300,000 km2 or 120,000 sq mi of which 0.62% is water. It's the worlds 5th largest country.

The Netherlands is just 41,543 km2 or 16,040 sq mi. Of which 18% is water. Plus there's the land that has already been designated as a 'flood area'.
Sits at rank 131 in terms of size.

It's all about averages, in Germany you have something like the Ruhr which is an industrial area with high emissions but there's also places with just forests or hills with 0 emissions.
I live along the coastline and on a sunny day I can see the UK in the distance across the North Sea. From this spot I can reach any of our borders within 3 hours or less.
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« Reply #222 on: December 21, 2019, 07:52:44 PM »
being a densely populated country makes it easier to lower emissions, not harder

ya dumbfuck

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« Reply #223 on: December 21, 2019, 07:54:37 PM »
The challenge for our country has always been its size.

???

From this spot I can reach any of our borders within 3 hours or less.

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« Reply #224 on: December 21, 2019, 08:28:32 PM »
We must invade the Netherlands and put a stop to their emission of greenhouse gases and garbage posters

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« Reply #225 on: December 21, 2019, 08:39:15 PM »
We're already at a 23% reduction since the 1990's

btw this is a lie

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« Reply #226 on: December 21, 2019, 08:49:16 PM »
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50864569

he probably is referring to
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The highest court in the Netherlands has upheld a ruling requiring the government to slash greenhouse gas emissions by at least 25% of 1990 levels by the end of next year.

The case was brought six years ago by the Urgenda environment group in a bid to force ministers to go well beyond EU targets.

However, the chances of the government reaching the target look slim.

By the end of 2018, emissions were down only 15% on 1990 levels.

Dutch environment researchers believe that levels could be cut by 23% by the end of 2020 but believe the reduction could be as low as 19%.

run that by everyone 1 year from now, dutchie

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« Reply #227 on: December 21, 2019, 08:51:51 PM »
I know, I looked it up.

The actual reduction so far is just under 15%.

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« Reply #228 on: December 22, 2019, 03:44:08 AM »
Let's be real. The NL could be covered by the Channel / North Sea tomorrow, and no one would notice. Or care.

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« Reply #229 on: December 22, 2019, 02:36:39 PM »
We're already at a 23% reduction since the 1990's

btw this is a lie
I got it from RTL Nieuws. They made a calculation that we needed to close 1 or 2 coal plants that were due for closure.
It would cost 50 million to reimburse the energy companies that own the plants and it would make us more depended on German / Russian energy.

For their calculation they used the 23% expected reduction by 2020 if we stay on this course. So 25% would be attainable by closing 1 or 2 of those plants.

Here's the source:
https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/4962261/urgenda-co2-nederlandse-staat

At the bottom there's a video below a line that says: "We've found the solution for the CO2 problem [...]"

Let's be real. The NL could be covered by the Channel / North Sea tomorrow, and no one would notice. Or care.
We are the second biggest agri-food exporter in the world.
You would notice the famines.

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« Reply #230 on: December 22, 2019, 02:51:31 PM »
*in the EU, not the world.

And your watery tomatoes have no nutritional value, anyway. :ufup

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« Reply #231 on: December 22, 2019, 02:56:14 PM »
Literally says "world" in the graphic...?
Or is it an implication of erroneous graphics.

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« Reply #232 on: December 22, 2019, 03:18:48 PM »
It's an implication of my growing myopia. :fbm


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« Reply #233 on: December 22, 2019, 03:21:01 PM »

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« Reply #234 on: December 22, 2019, 03:26:32 PM »
:stahp

...Still, charting by monetary value has my BS sensors tingling. Not enough to look shit up, but I very much doubt that there'd be famines. Let's see the chart by volume or whatever. :hmph
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« Reply #235 on: December 22, 2019, 03:34:29 PM »
nintex, you said "already at"

which makes it a lie

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« Reply #236 on: December 22, 2019, 03:37:05 PM »
:stahp

...Still, charting by monetary value has my BS sensors tingling. Not enough to look shit up, but I very much doubt that there'd be famines. Let's see the chart by volume or whatever. :hmph

Oh I for sure am a bit skeptical about it too so I floated the option of you challenging its veracity. But yeah, first, second, 11th, last agri-food exporter, whatever I don't care.

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« Reply #237 on: December 22, 2019, 03:38:15 PM »
And exported from doesn't necessarily mean produced in, come to think of it. Imported then traded on goods would count as exports, too. :hmm
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« Reply #238 on: December 22, 2019, 03:51:45 PM »
:stahp

...Still, charting by monetary value has my BS sensors tingling. Not enough to look shit up, but I very much doubt that there'd be famines. Let's see the chart by volume or whatever. :hmph
You can learn more about how we do it here:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/09/holland-agriculture-sustainable-farming/

Basically our yields are much higher because of our efficient methods, innovation and technology.

But yeah whatever, just let the planet starve to death and waste tons more water with inefficient farming practices. Who needs the Dutch anyway :trumps
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« Reply #239 on: December 22, 2019, 04:00:13 PM »