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« Reply #60 on: December 02, 2018, 05:37:17 PM »
denounces "unfettered globalization". is this a nazi honeypot? also
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« Reply #61 on: December 02, 2018, 05:46:15 PM »
Workers of the world, unite!

No, not like that! In a fettered manner!

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« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2018, 07:15:08 PM »
 :dead at Engels on the title card
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« Reply #65 on: December 23, 2018, 01:10:36 AM »
pinning my hopes on this anime to dispel the myth that marx and engels were hardcore egalitarians tbh


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« Reply #67 on: December 26, 2018, 08:44:07 PM »
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« Reply #68 on: December 27, 2018, 02:43:32 AM »
"I've bought copies of this book for my colleagues as well. I want them to understand socialism with Chinese characteristics." —Mark Zuckerberg, Founder & CEO, Facebook, 2014

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« Reply #69 on: January 03, 2019, 06:07:22 AM »
I have discovered a secret map of the Brown-Red Fascist Alliance, this is actually an outdated version but the larger one cannot fit on a single Twitter account sized image without being illegible:
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« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2019, 06:13:57 AM »
i have uploaded the full updated secret document here, it will delete after 60 days!

https://docdro.id/zJankJ3
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« Reply #71 on: January 08, 2019, 08:12:20 PM »
The fact that he does not seem to have an extensive review for the film The Death of Stalin makes my soul feel empty.

But looking to see if he had one did lead me to this, which was fun: https://espressostalinist.com/2016/06/09/why-does-the-pseudo-left-hate-grover-furr/

Just saw that movie last week, def enjoyed it, also made me fantasize about a TV miniseries adaptation of "Red Plenty" done as a sequel to it, with Steve Buscemi reprising his role as Khrushchev etc
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« Reply #72 on: January 12, 2019, 10:04:52 AM »


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« Reply #73 on: January 12, 2019, 02:35:03 PM »
Is that a sack full of Bitcoin?

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« Reply #74 on: January 16, 2019, 01:24:29 AM »
Yeah, I think it might be or at least some kind of cryptocurrency (and it makes sense), his accounts all got killed a while back, so this "larger" version on 4chan was the best I could dig up:
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« Reply #76 on: January 23, 2019, 07:31:24 PM »
sorry kara but

https://twitter.com/matthewaraven/status/1076736408864415744

DSA is descending into ridiculousness over his still unannounced 2020 run already. :lol

I'd say it's going to be a fun convention this year but the 2 big cliques voted to dissolve themselves last year and all we have now are baby libsocs shouting, "all power to the locals," not realizing that, "all power to the soviets," was a slogan to spur reluctant revolutionaries to take actual political power instead how they use it (American brain poison with socialist characteristics) and a reformed version of one of the 2 failed cliques.

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« Reply #77 on: January 23, 2019, 08:12:37 PM »
It's pretty amusing to see the Jacobin types get the faintest whiff of relevancy and immediately jettison anything that looks unfashionably radical.

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« Reply #78 on: January 23, 2019, 09:06:52 PM »
I thought Bhaskar was tolerable when he recently debated a guy who doesn't know about the extant debate in trade unionism between the service and organizing models even though he has books published on capitalism and gets an economics column in the newspaper that doesn't negatively report on Amazon.com owned by the guy who owns Amazon.com (no relation) for the amusement of Ezra "I can't believe Paul Ryan was a liar" Klein.

He asked questions like, "Define middle class," and, "How can you get money out of politics with public financing when public financing will be paid for with taxes paid by bourgeois?" and the guy was straight shook, then started ranting about how great the Communist Party of China and / or measuring poverty at 1.90 a day is when that stat is questionable. He didn't even do the wacky Chartalist "it's free real estate" routine!

That said it was pretty funny when the DSA Twitter account recently tweeted something that should have been tweeted from Jacobin's Twitter account because 1 person has access to both accounts.

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« Reply #79 on: January 23, 2019, 09:33:30 PM »
I'm to Pearlstein's first statement and it starts like this:
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Ideas are important at such moments because those participating in the policy and political debates need a rationale to convince the country that disruptive change is necessary. That process often involves shedding old ideas that were useful and we thought were true in favor of other ideas that are useful and true. In the political marketplace, ideas matter in terms of the outcome, even if they were not the driving force. That’s different than saying that ideology or some ideological movement played a starring role.

So in the book, I lay out several of those ideas and why they are have been pushed so far that they are no longer useful or valid.
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« Reply #80 on: January 23, 2019, 09:36:00 PM »
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Our goal should be: Use all the tools available in a democratic society to convince a broad swath of the public — frontline workers, middle managers, professionals, executives, academics, journalists — that certain types of business behavior are no longer socially acceptable.

Unacceptable because they offend our moral sensibilities. Unacceptable because they are economically counterproductive. And unacceptable because they erode the trust and cooperation that are necessary for a successful capitalism, and a successful democracy.

Change the social norms in that way and the rules and laws naturally follow. That’s a goal that is more likely to be achieved, and more likely to be effective, than trying to change things by grabbing power and shoving a different set of rules and norms down everyone’s throats.
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« Reply #81 on: January 23, 2019, 09:39:01 PM »
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And while we are at it, why not create a new set of financial institutions — banks, insurance companies, mutual funds and pension funds — that are owned by their customers rather than by shareholders.
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« Reply #82 on: January 23, 2019, 09:44:12 PM »
the petty asshole in me wants to point out that Ezra should have probably noted that he's blurbed on the cover of the book:
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« Reply #83 on: January 24, 2019, 03:16:24 AM »
I love that he thinks MORE MORES will "fix" capitalism when, say, the Victorian era was rife with mores but the capitalism was so bad that it actually generated labor strife in the imperialist core.

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« Reply #84 on: January 24, 2019, 05:37:54 AM »


 :salute
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« Reply #85 on: January 24, 2019, 05:51:26 AM »


THE VIOLENCE OF THE STATE :brazilcry
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« Reply #86 on: January 25, 2019, 10:06:38 PM »
When I read the Nicaragua statement I was like, "Who gave the Trots the car keys? smgdh," but then I read the Venezuela statement and I was like, "Marcyites? In my DSA? More likely than you might think." That bit at the end was straight out of an editorial in Liberation. :lol

https://www.dsausa.org/statements/dsa-statement-of-support-for-the-struggle-for-democracy-and-justice-in-nicaragua/
https://www.dsausa.org/statements/dsa-statement-on-us-intervention-in-venezuela/

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« Reply #87 on: January 25, 2019, 10:47:52 PM »
Has The Bore talked about how Subway Jared is a sovereign citizen now? I feel like this might be the thread for that.



edit: also everyone should congratulate me for not making a cheap joke about certain ideological tendencies and views on the age of consent.
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« Reply #88 on: January 25, 2019, 11:23:17 PM »
No, please grace us with links.

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« Reply #89 on: January 26, 2019, 12:01:18 AM »
Didn't realize but it's over a year old now. He was representing himself in court and apparently heard about the whole thing from an inmate he met who filed a "friend of the court" brief for him.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/2017/11/13/subway-jareds-self-filed-challenge-convictions-frivolous-and-shop-worn-judge-says/858187001/


He then requested that the judge recuse herself because, as the mother of two teen daughters, she is biased (she actually has one daughter in her mid-20's).

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/07/jared-fogle-judge-biased-because-she-has-teen-daughters/317945002/

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« Reply #90 on: January 26, 2019, 01:01:16 AM »
Didn't realize but it's over a year old now. He was representing himself in court and apparently heard about the whole thing from an inmate he met who filed a "friend of the court" brief for him.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/2017/11/13/subway-jareds-self-filed-challenge-convictions-frivolous-and-shop-worn-judge-says/858187001/


He then requested that the judge recuse herself because, as the mother of two teen daughters, she is biased (she actually has one daughter in her mid-20's).

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/02/07/jared-fogle-judge-biased-because-she-has-teen-daughters/317945002/

That's gonna be pretty great. He'll add an additional 5 years of individual Contempt of Court charges due to ignorantly charging in to go head-to-head with people who actually understand how the legal system works.

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« Reply #91 on: January 26, 2019, 10:39:44 AM »
This one weird trick to get out of jail for sex with underage girls even though you plead guilty! Judges hate him!
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« Reply #92 on: January 26, 2019, 01:01:19 PM »
https://twitter.com/Marriott/status/1088964885109768197

https://qz.com/work/1530562/half-a-million-rank-and-file-marriott-employees-are-now-watching-for-sex-traffickers/amp/

Very cool that the U.S. government can't broadly restrict freedom of movement, and certainly not on the basis of something so unrelated to the one neat trick (national security) as gender, so they pass a specious crime bill and now businesses get to broadly restrict the freedom of movement on the basis of gender. I'm sure that's just a big coincidence!

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« Reply #93 on: January 27, 2019, 12:13:20 AM »
He was representing himself in court and apparently heard about the whole thing from an inmate he met who filed a "friend of the court" brief for him.
That's gonna be pretty great. He'll add an additional 5 years of individual Contempt of Court charges due to ignorantly charging in to go head-to-head with people who actually understand how the legal system works.
I can't seem to find it on their site now so it might not have been Reason, but in any case some libertarian site did a story talking to some sovereign citizens in jail*, and one of them was a guy who was in for pretty much life, and after he got turned down twice for parole he started listening to the crazy guy in their cellblock and decided to do it just to fuck with the parole board. One of my few heroes in life.

*Apparently they are quite common in the northwest. Which probably is why the judges are so patient in the two videos of the Natural Living Man, common to deal with them.
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« Reply #94 on: January 28, 2019, 06:21:02 AM »
He was representing himself in court and apparently heard about the whole thing from an inmate he met who filed a "friend of the court" brief for him.
That's gonna be pretty great. He'll add an additional 5 years of individual Contempt of Court charges due to ignorantly charging in to go head-to-head with people who actually understand how the legal system works.
I can't seem to find it on their site now so it might not have been Reason, but in any case some libertarian site did a story talking to some sovereign citizens in jail*, and one of them was a guy who was in for pretty much life, and after he got turned down twice for parole he started listening to the crazy guy in their cellblock and decided to do it just to fuck with the parole board. One of my few heroes in life.

*Apparently they are quite common in the northwest. Which probably is why the judges are so patient in the two videos of the Natural Living Man, common to deal with them.

I have yet to see a non-white guy claim to be a Sovereign Citizen. To me, it's the utter zenith of Mediocre, Lazy Thinking, White Dude Privilege.

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« Reply #95 on: January 28, 2019, 06:31:11 AM »
Wesley Snipes :ufup
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« Reply #96 on: January 29, 2019, 12:34:16 AM »
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meet-the-man-behind-a-third-of-whats-on-wikipedia/

V. cool that the CIA writes Wikipedia through a CBP employee. It's like they don't even bother anymore.


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« Reply #98 on: January 30, 2019, 02:01:33 PM »
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/meet-the-man-behind-a-third-of-whats-on-wikipedia/

V. cool that the CIA writes Wikipedia through a CBP employee. It's like they don't even bother anymore.
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« Reply #99 on: January 31, 2019, 02:51:34 AM »
I'm sure he's a real Alexandra Elbakyan.

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« Reply #100 on: January 31, 2019, 03:00:33 AM »
https://www.freep.com/story/news/2019/01/30/farmington-university-immigrant-arrests/2724992002/

Homeland Security Investigations created a fake university in benj-kun's neck of the squatter settler apartheid state we call home to generate a reason to arrest people who wanted to stay in the U.S. Elaborate!

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Imagining a better world where IRS Criminal Investigation and / or FinCEN do something similar but with fake financial planners and banks to catch big ticket tax evaders. :whew

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« Reply #102 on: January 31, 2019, 10:47:39 AM »
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Imagining a better world where IRS Criminal Investigation and / or FinCEN do something similar but with fake financial planners and banks to catch big ticket tax evaders. :whew
to catch a predator, but with accountants instead of little girls
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« Reply #103 on: January 31, 2019, 01:53:42 PM »


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« Reply #104 on: February 01, 2019, 03:27:32 AM »
straight from the hotbed of the revolution, Salt Lake City

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« Reply #105 on: February 01, 2019, 03:33:19 AM »
http://www.revolutionarystudentsunion.com/

Website is way too fancy. Spooks confirmed.

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« Reply #106 on: February 01, 2019, 03:39:03 AM »
spooks you say? i found this on the charnel house blog
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Is Slavoj Zizek a US propaganda psyop? I want to ask my comrades on the left to consider the possibility. After years of research, I have come to the conclusion that Zizek is a charlatan posing as a "Stalinist" to both discredit communists by performing a caricature Bolshevik and simultaneously, to smuggle fascist ideas including old fashioned Aryan supremacism and 19th century race theory, back into public discourse disguised as radical left critique of liberalism. I will focus on how he exploits his radical left image to spread imperialist propaganda and disinformation. I'll trace the origins of the Zizek Industry to his first anointing by the New Left Review, then edited by (among others) Quentin Hoare and Branka Magas, Croatian Nationalists and Tudjman supporters and founders of the Bosnian Institute, as the Balkan Leftist who would initiate, in 1990, the dominant strain of imperialist propaganda about Yugoslavia, and yet further back to his career as an antiMarxist, antiCommunist "dissident" and Slovene ethnic nationalist. I will discuss the way he has influenced a generation to the point where now right wing and reactionary ideas as well as pure white house disinformation and propaganda are routinely packaged as hip "lefty" and "radical" thought.
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« Reply #107 on: February 01, 2019, 03:40:32 AM »

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« Reply #108 on: February 01, 2019, 03:44:45 AM »
Could a dissident who helped bring down an actually existing socialist state be a psyop? Seems unlikely!

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« Reply #109 on: February 01, 2019, 03:48:50 AM »
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1. G.I. Joe Defends His Supermarket
i was kinda hoping this was literally about G.I. Joe
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« Reply #110 on: February 01, 2019, 03:52:58 AM »
"Let's talk about the author, J Sakai. J probably stands for something . . . I don't know what." Me neither, buddy!

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« Reply #111 on: February 01, 2019, 03:54:39 AM »
the biography part of that video is amazing :lol
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« Reply #112 on: February 01, 2019, 03:56:38 AM »
in the Zizek panel, Molly Klein doesn't start until 32 minutes in, but :whoo

how she feels about Zizek: :pacspit, wish Milosevic had cleansed you
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« Reply #113 on: February 01, 2019, 03:59:35 AM »
RedKahina x benjipwns :lawd

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« Reply #114 on: February 01, 2019, 04:08:05 AM »
"Lacanianism! Fuck me. I mean, say what you want about the tenets of Nietzscheism, Dude, at least it's an ethos." - Molly Klein, basically, with like a hundred extra words
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« Reply #115 on: February 01, 2019, 04:13:23 AM »
Molly makes a very compelling case that Sandy is in fact a CIA operative
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« Reply #116 on: February 01, 2019, 04:17:21 AM »
excuse me the correct term for Sandy's world view is "techno-fash"
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« Reply #117 on: February 01, 2019, 04:18:17 AM »
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« Reply #119 on: February 01, 2019, 04:20:20 AM »
I share mutuals with her so I'm unfortunately quite familiar with a lot of this stuff.