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Re: Laissez-faire Politics Thread - Praxis? I didn't play Deus Ex, sorry.
« Reply #60 on: December 02, 2018, 05:37:17 PM »
denounces "unfettered globalization". is this a nazi honeypot? also
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« Reply #61 on: December 02, 2018, 05:46:15 PM »
Workers of the world, unite!

No, not like that! In a fettered manner!

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« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2018, 07:15:08 PM »
 :dead at Engels on the title card
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« Reply #65 on: December 23, 2018, 01:10:36 AM »
pinning my hopes on this anime to dispel the myth that marx and engels were hardcore egalitarians tbh


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« Reply #67 on: December 26, 2018, 08:44:07 PM »
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« Reply #68 on: December 27, 2018, 02:43:32 AM »
"I've bought copies of this book for my colleagues as well. I want them to understand socialism with Chinese characteristics." —Mark Zuckerberg, Founder & CEO, Facebook, 2014
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« Reply #69 on: January 03, 2019, 06:07:22 AM »
I have discovered a secret map of the Brown-Red Fascist Alliance, this is actually an outdated version but the larger one cannot fit on a single Twitter account sized image without being illegible:
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« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2019, 06:13:57 AM »
i have uploaded the full updated secret document here, it will delete after 60 days!

https://docdro.id/zJankJ3
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« Reply #71 on: January 08, 2019, 08:12:20 PM »
The fact that he does not seem to have an extensive review for the film The Death of Stalin makes my soul feel empty.

But looking to see if he had one did lead me to this, which was fun: https://espressostalinist.com/2016/06/09/why-does-the-pseudo-left-hate-grover-furr/

Just saw that movie last week, def enjoyed it, also made me fantasize about a TV miniseries adaptation of "Red Plenty" done as a sequel to it, with Steve Buscemi reprising his role as Khrushchev etc
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« Reply #72 on: January 12, 2019, 10:04:52 AM »


...shosta?
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« Reply #73 on: January 12, 2019, 02:35:03 PM »
Is that a sack full of Bitcoin?
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« Reply #74 on: January 16, 2019, 01:24:29 AM »
Yeah, I think it might be or at least some kind of cryptocurrency (and it makes sense), his accounts all got killed a while back, so this "larger" version on 4chan was the best I could dig up:
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« Reply #76 on: January 23, 2019, 07:31:24 PM »
sorry kara but

https://twitter.com/matthewaraven/status/1076736408864415744

DSA is descending into ridiculousness over his still unannounced 2020 run already. :lol

I'd say it's going to be a fun convention this year but the 2 big cliques voted to dissolve themselves last year and all we have now are baby libsocs shouting, "all power to the locals," not realizing that, "all power to the soviets," was a slogan to spur reluctant revolutionaries to take actual political power instead how they use it (American brain poison with socialist characteristics) and a reformed version of one of the 2 failed cliques.

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« Reply #77 on: January 23, 2019, 08:12:37 PM »
It's pretty amusing to see the Jacobin types get the faintest whiff of relevancy and immediately jettison anything that looks unfashionably radical.

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« Reply #78 on: January 23, 2019, 09:06:52 PM »
I thought Bhaskar was tolerable when he recently debated a guy who doesn't know about the extant debate in trade unionism between the service and organizing models even though he has books published on capitalism and gets an economics column in the newspaper that doesn't negatively report on Amazon.com owned by the guy who owns Amazon.com (no relation) for the amusement of Ezra "I can't believe Paul Ryan was a liar" Klein.

He asked questions like, "Define middle class," and, "How can you get money out of politics with public financing when public financing will be paid for with taxes paid by bourgeois?" and the guy was straight shook, then started ranting about how great the Communist Party of China and / or measuring poverty at 1.90 a day is when that stat is questionable. He didn't even do the wacky Chartalist "it's free real estate" routine!

That said it was pretty funny when the DSA Twitter account recently tweeted something that should have been tweeted from Jacobin's Twitter account because 1 person has access to both accounts.

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« Reply #79 on: January 23, 2019, 09:33:30 PM »
I'm to Pearlstein's first statement and it starts like this:
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Ideas are important at such moments because those participating in the policy and political debates need a rationale to convince the country that disruptive change is necessary. That process often involves shedding old ideas that were useful and we thought were true in favor of other ideas that are useful and true. In the political marketplace, ideas matter in terms of the outcome, even if they were not the driving force. That’s different than saying that ideology or some ideological movement played a starring role.

So in the book, I lay out several of those ideas and why they are have been pushed so far that they are no longer useful or valid.
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« Reply #80 on: January 23, 2019, 09:36:00 PM »
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Our goal should be: Use all the tools available in a democratic society to convince a broad swath of the public — frontline workers, middle managers, professionals, executives, academics, journalists — that certain types of business behavior are no longer socially acceptable.

Unacceptable because they offend our moral sensibilities. Unacceptable because they are economically counterproductive. And unacceptable because they erode the trust and cooperation that are necessary for a successful capitalism, and a successful democracy.

Change the social norms in that way and the rules and laws naturally follow. That’s a goal that is more likely to be achieved, and more likely to be effective, than trying to change things by grabbing power and shoving a different set of rules and norms down everyone’s throats.
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« Reply #81 on: January 23, 2019, 09:39:01 PM »
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And while we are at it, why not create a new set of financial institutions — banks, insurance companies, mutual funds and pension funds — that are owned by their customers rather than by shareholders.
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« Reply #82 on: January 23, 2019, 09:44:12 PM »
the petty asshole in me wants to point out that Ezra should have probably noted that he's blurbed on the cover of the book:
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"If anyone can save capitalism from the capitalists, it’s Steven Pearlstein. This lucid, brilliant book refuses to abandon capitalism to those who believe morality and justice irrelevant to an economic system." ―Ezra Klein, founder and editor-at-large, Vox
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