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Re: Soulsborne games thread
« Reply #600 on: November 29, 2019, 07:38:24 AM »
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« Reply #601 on: November 29, 2019, 09:48:33 AM »
Now that the game has clicked I'm in complete "explore everywhere :unclephil" mode.

Went to Dark Basin or whatever and knocked the shit out of a black knight, unlocked the bonfire, and found the most incredible shield that restores stamina fast. Smacked around some ice dudes but struggling against some Hydra. I got the coolest armor set yet in the Knight armor set but it makes my character too slow. Wahhh. :tocry It's the cool armor used in promotion material too!
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« Reply #602 on: November 29, 2019, 01:01:21 PM »
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People calling others nig.ger for humor. Good representation of gamers.
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« Reply #603 on: November 29, 2019, 01:49:19 PM »
What? I didn't watch them just sorted by views and posted. Even Souls fans are toxic it seems, damn!

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« Reply #604 on: November 29, 2019, 02:14:39 PM »
What? I didn't watch them just sorted by views and posted. Even Souls fans are toxic it seems, damn!
:lol
I mean...

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« Reply #605 on: November 29, 2019, 04:12:01 PM »
:lol

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« Reply #606 on: November 29, 2019, 09:52:42 PM »
What? I didn't watch them just sorted by views and posted. Even Souls fans are toxic it seems, damn!
:lol
I mean...

I thought the current renaissance of "git gud" is traceable back to Dark Souls as an origin, no?

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« Reply #607 on: November 30, 2019, 02:48:20 AM »
Took out Moonlight Butterfly. What a bore! First bad boss!

DS1 Forest is nothing compared to BB's. Kinda disappointed with the area. Has some good traps but I predicted all of them with the Souls sense built up by BB. Lol
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Don Rumata

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« Reply #608 on: November 30, 2019, 06:06:35 AM »
What? I didn't watch them just sorted by views and posted. Even Souls fans are toxic it seems, damn!
:lol
I mean...

I thought the current renaissance of "git gud" is traceable back to Dark Souls as an origin, no?
Yeah, as far as i know.
Souls fans are annoying shits, though they sort of settled down in the last few years.

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« Reply #609 on: November 30, 2019, 12:04:07 PM »


lmao

Going to try to take on this Hydra and then go back to the Depth and then finally see if I can make it to Blighttown?

Level 30, 20 VIT, 20 END, 22 DEX, +4 Uchigatana. I had been holding off on upgrading my Uchigatana because I searched on Dark Souls wiki for other katanas and saw the Chaos Blade. I want that and didn't want to bother dumping treasured shards into a weapon I'm going to replace but Moonlight Butterfly was an eye opener of tedium without a leveled up weapon and one shard costs 800 souls at the Andre so who cares.
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #610 on: November 30, 2019, 05:38:41 PM »
Man I am not killing those hydras any time soon lol.

Killed the dragon. Weaping dragon? Idk. Forgot.

Unlocked the blighttown door and will explore tonight after work.
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« Reply #611 on: November 30, 2019, 07:13:17 PM »
Here's a speedrun of Code Vein in under an hour for Borys

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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #612 on: December 01, 2019, 12:34:24 AM »
HOLY FUCK BLIGHTTOWN IS AMAZING

Level design, atmosphere, PvE. I fucking love it! Navigating it is such a thrill. Holy damn they nailed the dungeon crawl feel of not knowing what's next around the corner and being surrounded by oppressive enemies.
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« Reply #613 on: December 01, 2019, 01:23:31 AM »
All this though makes me terrified of Sekiro. I don't think I have it in me to do that game. I don't think I have the reflexes/skill/patience necessary for it.

I would really, really like to know Sekiro sales numbers. How does it compare to DS3 or BB? They shut down sooooooooooooo many doors and pathways a Souls player can enjoy the game in Sekiro that I am really curious did it have any impact on sales or not? Sekiro = DEX build only. Not saying it is bad but to be the only way to play the game was... rather disappointing.

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Late to this but if I recall correctly it did around 4 million last it was reported. Which is high if we count it as part of the series.

I will say though it does seem to have a lot less enthusiasm and talk of it compared to Demon's, DS1 and 3, and BB. A lot of what makes those games constantly get talked about was lost of course, and it was more of a skill based game so no real grinding and such, which means some probably didn't get through it.
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« Reply #614 on: December 01, 2019, 01:34:18 AM »
Honestly beyond the initial hype I forgot I played Sekiro. BB is a much better game. I'm glad to have played it because it's what got me to give Soulsborne another chance but it has nothing as good as Blighttown or the highs of BB.

The fact it's not an rpg is a massive negative. And the fact that the enemies are so pattern based that you can bat them around on replays makes it not the most replayable game. Meanwhile I'm considering doing a naked run in dark souls after I beat it. Sekiro offers no such variation in playstyle. It's very plain Jane.

Great game but not in the same category as BB or DS1

I wish they'd do an RPG in a Japanese setting.
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #615 on: December 01, 2019, 02:34:20 AM »
I think I enjoy Dark Souls 1 more than Bloodborne :o One reason is the map. It's incredible how so much connects to each other. I'm BB the world is far more disjointed. Although that's the point, I vastly prefer the map in DS1.
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« Reply #616 on: December 01, 2019, 11:22:42 AM »
I still think DS is the best souls game for exactly that reason. The design of the world is just so damn good. :rejoice

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« Reply #617 on: December 01, 2019, 11:57:32 AM »
I think I enjoy Dark Souls 1 more than Bloodborne :o One reason is the map. It's incredible how so much connects to each other. I'm BB the world is far more disjointed. Although that's the point, I vastly prefer the map in DS1.

Yeah, the map design in DS1 is amazing.

Still prefer BB for the actual combat & boss fights (DS1 combat is kinda busted jank but I also sorta love it. BLEED 4 EVER) and story-wise I give BB a little bit of an edge because I'm down with the Eldricht, but DS1 is my 2nd favorite souls game after BB because the map design, story, lore and ambiance.

Saying that, get ready to lower your expectations Cindi. DS1's last 1/3rd or 1/4th feels really rushed/unfinished. There's an entire terrible unfinished area and super awful boss fight later on.

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« Reply #618 on: December 01, 2019, 12:25:53 PM »
I still think DS is the best souls game for exactly that reason. The design of the world is just so damn good. :rejoice

After Sekiro and BB I was miffed there was no teleport. But now I understand why and I prefer that. :)
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Don Rumata

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« Reply #619 on: December 01, 2019, 12:30:13 PM »
DkS1 has the best pacing and progression of any of their games from the start up until Anor Londo's boss fight.
After that it nose dives, but before that it's just a fantastic ride that they never really replicated.
Other games they did, surpassed it in many areas, but that sense of propulsion from area to area, while feeling interconnected is just unmatched in my opinion.

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« Reply #620 on: December 01, 2019, 12:31:40 PM »
I still think DS is the best souls game for exactly that reason. The design of the world is just so damn good. :rejoice

After Sekiro and BB I was miffed there was no teleport. But now I understand why and I prefer that. :)
Their reliance on teleportation is also why they felt more free to do the linear maps they've had ever since.
There's some hubs, but usually you go down a path and just ride it out until the boss, then just teleport back and go somewhere else.

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« Reply #621 on: December 01, 2019, 06:08:23 PM »
Why is the last 30% bad?
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Bebpo

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« Reply #622 on: December 01, 2019, 06:55:03 PM »
Probably ran out of time? One path of a couple areas and bosses is pretty rough and iirc there's plenty of unused stuff too.

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« Reply #623 on: December 02, 2019, 02:31:38 AM »
I rang the second bell. Holy shit.

First got the game in 2012. I can't believe I finally did it. So glad the game finally clicked. Game rocks.
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Don Rumata

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« Reply #624 on: December 02, 2019, 05:17:11 AM »
Yeah, i don't want to spoil anything, but it's clear the last couple of areas were rushed to get the game out, which is unfortunate.
They could've fixed them in one of their re-releases/remasters, but i guess they just wanted to move on to the next game.

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« Reply #625 on: December 02, 2019, 01:28:33 PM »
Also, get to the DLC Cindi. If you have trouble, look up how to get there, cause it's way more obtuse than getting to the DLC in the other games.

Bebpo

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« Reply #626 on: December 02, 2019, 01:30:54 PM »
I'm assuming any modern version of DS1 is goty including the dlc.

If not though, yeah, get it Cindi. The DLC for DS1 is great.

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« Reply #627 on: December 02, 2019, 01:32:59 PM »
I already have the dlc. I have the Dark Souls trliogy ps4 boxset.

I'm assuming that locked door at the Dark Root Basin is the door to unlock the DLC?
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Bebpo

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« Reply #628 on: December 02, 2019, 01:39:19 PM »
Yes  :)

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« Reply #629 on: December 02, 2019, 01:43:39 PM »
lol nope

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Unless they changed it for the remaster, you have to beat the Hydra. Reload your save to reset the world settings, go to a little alcove in the lake on the left side - you'll see a golden crystal golem you have to kill. That golem will transform into an NPC. After that you have to kill another golem in the Duke's archive to get a pendant that will unlock a portal where the NPC was.
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« Reply #630 on: December 02, 2019, 01:43:55 PM »
Figured as much.
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #631 on: December 02, 2019, 01:44:43 PM »
lol nope

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Unless they changed it for the remaster, you have to beat the Hydra. Reload your save to reset the world settings, go to a little alcove in the lake on the left side - you'll see a golden crystal golem you have to kill. That golem will transform into an NPC. After that you have to kill another golem in the Duke's archive to get a pendant that will unlock a portal where the NPC was.
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Thanks for the head up. Fuck that hydra btw.
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Bebpo

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« Reply #632 on: December 02, 2019, 02:01:04 PM »
Wait, isn't that at dark basin tho?

El Babua

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« Reply #633 on: December 02, 2019, 02:01:55 PM »
Yeah, but the locked door is for something else

Bebpo

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« Reply #634 on: December 02, 2019, 02:02:18 PM »
Ah, ok. It's been a while.

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« Reply #635 on: December 02, 2019, 04:00:03 PM »
Holy fuck Sen's Fortress feels like a goddamn final dungeon and shit. This place isn't playing. Whoever Sen is, they're no slouch. Damn.
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« Reply #636 on: December 03, 2019, 12:20:12 AM »
HOLY FUCK BLIGHTTOWN IS AMAZING

Level design, atmosphere, PvE. I fucking love it! Navigating it is such a thrill. Holy damn they nailed the dungeon crawl feel of not knowing what's next around the corner and being surrounded by oppressive enemies.

No, BLIGHTTOWN is a steaming stream of diarrhea, if you're playing it on 360, its original, publisher-TRC-approved platform. It runs like a slideshow, and exposes control and camera issues the base game contains.

Happy that you're enjoying it though.

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« Reply #637 on: December 03, 2019, 12:35:36 AM »
It is incredible level design and has no frame problems on PS4 :yeshrug
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« Reply #638 on: December 03, 2019, 01:13:00 AM »
I always said Blightown was a good level.

The horrible framerate on last gen consoles (and even the original PC version) left a really bad taste in peoples mouths. Although I do acknowledge some of the enemy placement in that area is just bs lol

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« Reply #639 on: December 03, 2019, 02:22:50 AM »
Sen's :stahp

Hardcore dungeon crawl shit. Oh my GOD.

I'm both :gladbron and :stahp right now. This is glorious. Haven't played a good dungeon this tight in a long ass time. DAMN.

It's truly godlike. The resource management is :delicious

Bruh. 5 estus and this long ass dungeon, you better make good choices. This is incredible. :lawd OMG I never imagined Souls would go full jrpg and here we are. :gladbron
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #640 on: December 03, 2019, 02:40:38 AM »
This is like an action rpg version of traditional SMT or Wizardry.

OMG this is a faithful translation from turn based dungeon crawl design with traps, obstacles, risk-reward, item/resource management. I've never seen an action rpg fully replicate the feeling of trekking through a hard dungeon in an action rpg and these fuckers have gone and done it.

I always knew Dark Souls is something I would potentially like because I'm a dungeon crawl/roguelike fan. But bah gawd. This tickles all my buttons. And the bonfire is nowhere in sight. The sheer amount of adversity. :rejoice It's like they've gone full Wizardrylike.

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Bebpo

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« Reply #641 on: December 03, 2019, 02:47:40 AM »
yeah, Sen's is tough and cool.

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« Reply #642 on: December 03, 2019, 03:53:44 AM »
Sen has nothing on Tower of Latria from Demon's.

BTW I did not found the bonfire nor the elevator in Sen only after killing the boss. Yeah, that was fun running ALL THE FUCKING WAY to the boss at least a couple of times. I had that shit memorized to a tee.

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« Reply #643 on: December 03, 2019, 07:07:16 AM »
Sen has nothing on Tower of Latria from Demon's.

BTW I did not found the bonfire nor the elevator in Sen only after killing the boss. Yeah, that was fun running ALL THE FUCKING WAY to the boss at least a couple of times. I had that shit memorized to a tee.
They're not that similar, design wise.
Latria is way cooler in terms of atmosphere, but the level design of Sen is more intricate.

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« Reply #644 on: December 03, 2019, 08:52:07 AM »
Sad thing is neither Latria nor Sen were replicated again in DS2, DS3, BB, Sekiro.

They were probably deemed as "too hard" levels (environment wise) and never done again.

I really liked Cathedral of the Deep in DS3, though. That was a *fun* level as level itself.

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« Reply #645 on: December 03, 2019, 08:58:59 AM »
Man Sekiro sure had great imaginery................ I miss it already. It was just different barring Nioh.

All the Souls games are very similiar. Castles & Knights/ Knights with Guns and shit. Sekiro had fucking APES! Swimming! Bionic Commando Arm!

Now back to Knights (Vikings?) & Shit with Elden Ring, ehhhhhhh.................................

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« Reply #646 on: December 03, 2019, 10:15:35 AM »
Yes, knights and shit :rejoice

Sekiro's enemy variety was very poor. Very weird criticism especially in defense of sekiro. And even more especially when samurai are basically Japanese knights and you fight plenty of them. Lmao
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« Reply #647 on: December 03, 2019, 11:35:50 AM »
Sekiro had fucking APES!
2 apes.
Being bosses.
The rest were mere monkeys.

Also like Cindi said, Souls have plenty more creatures than just knights, lol, especially if you're counting bosses.

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« Reply #648 on: December 03, 2019, 12:27:54 PM »
Made it to Anor Londo. HOLY SHIT!!!
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« Reply #649 on: December 03, 2019, 02:55:10 PM »

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« Reply #650 on: December 03, 2019, 03:43:22 PM »
I'm surprisingly finding the story in Dark Souls more resonant than BB's. As someone with a lot of struggles and been fighting them bit by bit it really speaks to me how this character just keeps going despite it all. It's really well done speaking to other adventurers who have given up and how I keep trying. The tone is totally different than Demons or Bloodborne and I'm loving it.
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« Reply #651 on: December 03, 2019, 11:29:16 PM »
Soooo... I'm gonna take a stab here and guess that I should probably just go back to Bloodborne instead of play Shenmue 3... ??
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« Reply #652 on: December 04, 2019, 09:29:01 AM »
Man Sekiro sure had great imaginery................ I miss it already. It was just different barring Nioh.

I probably appreciate Sekiro mostly for its appetizing vignettes even if some aren't as layered as they have the potential to be. Things like the first time ascent to and up the outer side of Ashina Castle were a wonderful experience. In that sense I agree it would be nice to see more games with such an eye for periods like that.

concept art


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« Reply #653 on: December 04, 2019, 02:17:21 PM »
Even though I got turned off from DS2 (hollowing.. fucking hated it), the title music still reigns supreme in mood setting, imho...  freakin chills every time I hear it. 
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And Majula too   :lawd
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« Reply #654 on: December 04, 2019, 02:26:18 PM »
You go hollow in DS2?!
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« Reply #655 on: December 04, 2019, 02:58:32 PM »
I'm not too familiar what with all hollowing entails (the lore) in the souls games, but in DS2, when you start to hollow out from dying more often, you start to look hollowed; undead like.  Which also drops your HP cap too; up to half...  But that didn't bother me as much as appearance though.   :doge  I want to look beautiful while covered in blood and darkness.  FashionSouls for me.

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« Reply #656 on: December 04, 2019, 03:15:04 PM »
:o

I noticed something similar in DS1.

Hollow means to become truly dead. A hollow is all the monsters you fight in game. They're undead people that have since gone hollow.

I look much different than I did at the beginning of the game. Reminds me of SotC where the Wanderer starts to look sick and dying the more he kills the giants. That video game minimalist storytelling. :bow
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« Reply #657 on: December 04, 2019, 03:28:40 PM »
I'm not too familiar what with all hollowing entails (the lore) in the souls games, but in DS2, when you start to hollow out from dying more often, you start to look hollowed; undead like.  Which also drops your HP cap too; up to half...  But that didn't bother me as much as appearance though.   :doge  I want to look beautiful while covered in blood and darkness.  FashionSouls for me.
I modded that out on PC.

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« Reply #658 on: December 04, 2019, 03:42:42 PM »
I'm not too familiar what with all hollowing entails (the lore) in the souls games, but in DS2, when you start to hollow out from dying more often, you start to look hollowed; undead like.  Which also drops your HP cap too; up to half...  But that didn't bother me as much as appearance though.   :doge  I want to look beautiful while covered in blood and darkness.  FashionSouls for me.
I modded that out on PC.
:thinking hmmmm.. didn't even think about that.   I may pick up SOTFS again if it goes on the cheap. 

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« Reply #659 on: December 05, 2019, 03:24:38 AM »
Demon's Souls took it even further (and it was the FIRST (!!!) Souls game):

- you have Body and Soul form
- Soul form = 50% of max HP (very shitty... there is a ring that puts it @ 75% IIRC)
- Soul form = more magic damage
- Soul form = more stealthy character (your footsteps are very light)

I do not remember if Body form meant more physical damage but I think not, for sure not.