Final Fantasy VII Remake |OT| The Unknown Journey Will Continue

[Himu]

Remember the time Toriyama had a press conference and used Lightning art and a vase of flowers to try to sell Lightning Returns? And LR ended up selling worse than FFX HD remaster?

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I still can't believe FF ever fell to such lows.

FF went from a flagship franchise in the world to above video within ten years. Shocking. How he wasn't demoted or Yu Suzuki'd I don't know. He seems to have been demoted. He co-wrote the scenario in 7R. He seems better as a writer than as director as much as I love X-2.

[tiesto]

i started 4 heroes of light the other day, and i gotta say it was pretty fun. it's a simple game so far, but it's obviously meant to emulate 8 bit rpgs without the bullshit. nice change of pace right now.

I hated how you had limited control in battle, you couldn't target enemies or something.. some parts were super challenging iirc. Bravely Default was from the same team and was a major step up over 4HOL.

[Trent Dole]

That is some quality happy acoustic jpop right there

[recursivelyenumerable]

https://twitter.com/christinelove/status/1252997488136589316

[Himu]

Still haven't beaten this because then it will be over

[Great Rumbler]

Still haven't beaten this because then it will be over

I really liked the ending and was happy to finally beat the game, but then I realized it's going to be at least 2 years to see what happens next.

[Himu]

Still haven't beaten this because then it will be over

I really liked the ending and was happy to finally beat the game, but then I realized it's going to be at least 2 years to see what happens next.

That's why I'm savoring it. But then I also don't wanna be spoiled.

So conflicted

[BIONIC]

Can’t wait for the 10 page meltdown when you see the ending 

[HardcoreRetro]

My favourite part of this game is that my favourite let's play group got back together after 2 years to do shitty inane commentary on this game.

Thanks Final Fantasy and thanks corona.

[Himu]

Holy shit. They did it. They're replicating the experience of playing FFVII again. One big part of that games legacy was online discussion and theories/interpretations about the ending. And they're encouraging it happening again. Bah gawd

[Himu]

Can’t wait for the 10 page meltdown when you see the ending 

Let's bet 50 dollars

[Svejk]

Hell I haven't even gotten to Wall Market yet.    Gonna be a long haul for me.

[BIONIC]

Can’t wait for the 10 page meltdown when you see the ending 

Let's bet 50 dollars

How many Shonda alts are there 

[Bebpo]

I can't beat these 3 weapons on a rampage MK II monodrives

I'm hitting them with magic as aerith but AI cloud is fucking stupid and just keeps stabbing them being no help at all. And they murder both of us since there's 3 of them spamming fira and ground attacks and dash attacks. 2 of them was manageable, but 3 is destroying my team.

Any tips

[Bebpo]

nm, got it. Jesus fuck that was too hard.

[Himu]

I can't beat these 3 weapons on a rampage MK II monodrives

[HardcoreRetro]

It's one of the side quests in chapter 8.

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/dmseto/status/1253332541269897220

[Bebpo]

I can't beat these 3 weapons on a rampage MK II monodrives

I'm hitting them with magic as aerith but AI cloud is fucking stupid and just keeps stabbing them being no help at all. And they murder both of us since there's 3 of them spamming fira and ground attacks and dash attacks. 2 of them was manageable, but 3 is destroying my team.

Any tips

You'll encounter them again, but they're pretty easy once you learn their strategy:
1.Mainly focus on melee/dps to get them down
2. They'll pop a magic shield that goes down with (iirc) one basic magic attack
3. Keep your melee damage up with thrust & other attacks as they get pressured and interrupted at an extremely fast rate

You can take them down within seconds as long as you can partition a quick magic use during that phase.

it took me about 4-6 magic attacks to get a single shield down. I did as much melee dps as possible before the shield but then it would me minutes of magic blasting and having to consistently use atb to heal just to hopefully get a shield down and then rushdown melee and hope to kill it before shield up again, repeat x 3. Maybe I was just underleveled. I found all the ch.8 sidequest bosses pretty tough, but that was the worst. The others at least just had status effects to avoid vs. no damage immunity staggering your other character and then stunlocking and fucking them with attacks from 3 enemies at once almost instant wiping them.

[nachobro]

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[Himu]

Aerith the queen no gender can deny

My girl

[Himu]

Real talk I don't even know what enemy Bebpo is even referring to.

[Positive Touch]

those little flying eyeballs with the spinal cord thing hanging from them


i had trouble with that fight at first too. i think if you hit them with a spell when you can see the shield around them, that will dispel the shield and allow you to hit them with physical attacks.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/dmseto/status/1253332541269897220

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[Bebpo]

Real talk I don't even know what enemy Bebpo is even referring to.

Floating blue squids with physical shields that if you attack them your attacks bounce off and you have to pelt them with multiple magic attacks (which still do zero damage) to lower their shield and get more actual damage hits in.
Meanwhile there's 3 of them and you can't visually keep all of them on-screen so you get fucked out of nowhere by attacks from the 1 or 2 out of screen and your partner AI is absolutely useless because they just keep hitting physical and doing no damage and their atb fills slow as fuck.

[recursivelyenumerable]

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Words aren't the only thing that tell people what you're thinking ...

[Raist]

Real talk I don't even know what enemy Bebpo is even referring to.

The floating jellyfish / squids / whatever the fuck they are.

You encounter the regular version as early as the first reactor mission, the "mark II" ones are the upgraded blue ones that can be a pain in the ass.


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[Himu]

I don't remember this fight. Glad you got past it Bebpo.

[demi]

It's a side mission in Chapter 8 - Weapons on Rampage

Check your quest history (press touchpad -> Quests)

[Himu]

Oh those things.

[Bebpo]

Yeah, I think the AI is just small supplemental atb+dmg so that you're forced to switch around and experiment. When you get a Guest party member they put in major work.

To gain major ATB while waiting on a shielded enemy just force yourself to get hit with either guard or Punisher mode for a huge boost to ATB which can be used for abilities/spells.

That kind of ATB struggle really only exists in Chapter 8 when you're solo with Aerith.

If it's a physical attack parrying with Punisher or guarding in general is great. If it's a magic attack you should be able to see their magic name pop up on the corner of the screen and you should be able to dodge it.

Oh, also Aerith can build ATB on shielded enemies just by holding attack and using tempest.

Yeah, after the fight I saw the materia that builds ATB while guarding and thought that would've been good for that fight.

I still don't understand Aerith's tempest attack. The initial tutorial screen on it said something about waiting until later in the fight to use it because it builds up something? Can you explain this to me. All I know is it fires some damage and more when you hold it in.

[Bebpo]

Also, stopped at Wall Market last night.

Absolutely loving this game. The combat is so good (outside those dumb blue orb guys) that I'd put this up there with top5 best jrpg battle systems ever. The 1 on 1 fights are awesome and feel like KH data battles but easier. I like how the move name pops up before the animation starts so not only do you have animation tells but you can watch those and dodge/guard/parry accordingly and then counter. The 2nd half of the Rude fight was sick af learning dodge routines for each of his attacks and countering. Felt like a really good character action game. The big bosses where you're juggling between party members and attacking different parts and buffing/debuffing and hitting weaknesses is very satisfying.

The cutscenes/story stuff is great too and it looks like a CG movie in motion.

My only complaints are sometimes the long corridor runs start giving me FFXIII flashbacks of cut & paste repetition but luckily they end/vary up much sooner than FFXIII. This game definitely shows how FFXIII really fucked it up because FFXIII/FFX/FFVIIr are essentially the same design gameplay model. The difference being that FFXIII had a shit story which wasn't compelling at all to guide the experience and the areas went on too long and didn't have enough branching variety so they just felt like walking down a tunnel.

And I'm gonna be a dick and say I've never been a huge Hamuazu fan. Blinded by Light is dope, but otherwise most of his stuff sounds pretty same-y and doesn't give me that FF feel that other FF composers bring. I'm enjoying the soundtrack, but I think I'd have liked the soundtrack better if another SE composer had done it like Shimomura or my favorite new age boy Ishimoto (Crisis Core ost >>> this).

[Coffee Dog]

as a kingdom hearts fan, it's causing me a nonzero amount of distress that everyone is fine with a game's plot doing cartwheels just to bring an "ENDLESS SPECULATION AND THEORIES" hype/marketing machine into existence

we were the real xehanorts all along 

[Boredfrom]

as a kingdom hearts fan, it's causing me a nonzero amount of distress that everyone is fine with a game's plot doing cartwheels just to bring an "ENDLESS SPECULATION AND THEORIES" hype/marketing machine into existence

we were the real xehanorts all along 

Eh, lets be honest, this is way more coherent than Kingdom Hearts and the twist is actually a smart meta commentary (and that is impressive given current SQ Enix recent horrible track record). Is probably going to end as a clusterfuck but at least this story is impressive compared with other modern SquareEnix games.

[demi]

Yeah, after the fight I saw the materia that builds ATB while guarding and thought that would've been good for that fight.

I still don't understand Aerith's tempest attack. The initial tutorial screen on it said something about waiting until later in the fight to use it because it builds up something? Can you explain this to me. All I know is it fires some damage and more when you hold it in.

I don't know about it "building up later in the fight" but you can hold triangle to make it stronger (the circle fills up).

Tempest is pretty garbo though, so don't fret too much about it. I just used Aeris to heal me or use magic.

[Rman]

Beat. Amazing game. 

[Bebpo]

Yeah, after the fight I saw the materia that builds ATB while guarding and thought that would've been good for that fight.

I still don't understand Aerith's tempest attack. The initial tutorial screen on it said something about waiting until later in the fight to use it because it builds up something? Can you explain this to me. All I know is it fires some damage and more when you hold it in.

I don't know about it "building up later in the fight" but you can hold triangle to make it stronger (the circle fills up).

Tempest is pretty garbo though, so don't fret too much about it. I just used Aeris to heal me or use magic.

Thanks, Aerith is actually my favorite character to play as so far because that arcane ward spell + magic being a beast = DPS spam. I just put that ward down and chill in it as much as possible firing double -ra version of spells the enemies are weak against and using ether. I also gave her the refocus limit break to get 3 bars so her atb fills even faster and it's just nothing but double magic spamming over and over. Total beast DPS character.

[Rman]

No spoiler impressions and final review:

+Great character work. The characters come alive in this modern retelling. 
+Amazing music. This OST is incredible.  I loved how it is done like a movie soundtrack with the leitmotifs of familiar songs being used in new arrangements.
+Battle system is very good.  I was skeptical since I hated KH action RPGs nonsense, but still retains a lot of the originals battle system--materia, limits, and so on. Each of the 4 characters is very fun to play and unique. Much more differentiation than the original.
+Cutscenes are amazing. This makes Advent Children look like a tech demo.

-Some pacing issues in some chapters.
-A little too linear.
-Maps needed a bit more variety.

It's a solid A for me. Not A+, but an A effort.

[Rman]

Yeah, after the fight I saw the materia that builds ATB while guarding and thought that would've been good for that fight.

I still don't understand Aerith's tempest attack. The initial tutorial screen on it said something about waiting until later in the fight to use it because it builds up something? Can you explain this to me. All I know is it fires some damage and more when you hold it in.

I don't know about it "building up later in the fight" but you can hold triangle to make it stronger (the circle fills up).

Tempest is pretty garbo though, so don't fret too much about it. I just used Aeris to heal me or use magic.

Thanks, Aerith is actually my favorite character to play as so far because that arcane ward spell + magic being a beast = DPS spam. I just put that ward down and chill in it as much as possible firing double -ra version of spells the enemies are weak against and using ether. I also gave her the refocus limit break to get 3 bars so her atb fills even faster and it's just nothing but double magic spamming over and over. Total beast DPS character.

Aerith is God in this game lol.  I love it because she was wack AF in the OG.

[Himu]

Tempest is good. Charge it. Win game.

[Boredfrom]

I just finished, if Square can maintain this level of quality in the writing and localization department I’m all aboard for

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the new stuff at the timeline

[close]

I wish that the second game will become more open or at least the town areas become like the wall market. I don’t need a open world but I want to feel like I’m exploring rather than going along in the corridors (they were not that bad, but still).

Excellent game, I feel this is Square learning about doing their best with their new sensibilities and limitations than affected them during the beginning of the HD era.

[Himu]

How long is the Shinra building? I'll make a save before the Shinra building and a save after, beat the game and go back to old content so I can participate in ending talk and keep playing.

[Joe Molotov]

How long is the Shinra building? I'll make a save before the Shinra building and a save after, beat the game and go back to old content so I can participate in ending talk and keep playing.

Around 6-8 hours

[Himu]

Damn. Might as well finish everything then.

[Boredfrom]

The Hojo lab sections drags on a lot. My least favorite part of the game.

[demi]

The only replay you need to do is HARD MODE biatch

[Boredfrom]

The Hojo lab sections drags on a lot. My least favorite part of the game.

I thought the artificial sun dungeon stunk a lot like some of the worse FFXV parts, but I liked the Hojo part because it was kinda giving ff6 vibes.

The artificial sun stuff was an actual dungeon, thought. Hojo lab was mostly “here is a fake puzzle” and the point of “Hojo is a fucking nutcase with zero regard for life”  was already clear, I didn’t need 4 rooms for that.

[Himu]

How about some fucking spoiler tags.

[demi]

How about you beat the game over the weekend so you don't have to cry about it biatch

[Rman]

How about you beat the game over the weekend so you don't have to cry about it biatch

The game is long AF lol.  I only beat quickly since I was laid off lol and no one is hiring

[Bebpo]

Did the honeybee stuff tonight. That was so fucking good!

Also the arena battles are pretty fun because the combat is just that good.
I wish we could get a Grandia X dungeon crawler spin-off out of this series because the combat is so much fun.

Japan's really been on fire this gen after a lot of lackluster since PS2 days. So many top notch games lately from Japan.

[Svejk]

Finally got to Wall Market!  Pretty awesome, and open space too.  Gonna be honest, this game wouldn't almost be as awesome as it is if it weren't for the tunez. Don't get me wrong; the combat is pure joy and the aesthetics are spot on, but one of my biggest fears was that they'd practically use a new score (looking at you, Lunar:SSSC!  ), but they really seemed to use the OG score in such a satisfying way.   

[Boredfrom]

I was thinking about this an realized that:

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If Zack is in the same timeline like the rest of the game cast, he will totally going to also get mind controles by Sephiroth, every SOLDIER has Jenova cells on them, after all.

[close]

That is a way to preserve the drama while explaining where he has been.

[Positive Touch]

damn did they really have to show

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wedge AND his cats eating it? stomp my heart out why don't you


and way to fuck up one of the heaviest moments in the game by putting in a random cait sith appearance. no one gives a fuck about what he was up to, and i'd imagine it'd be extra random for new players. good job completely pulling people out of the moment.

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[Himu]

damn did they really have to show

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and way to fuck up one of the heaviest moments in the game by putting in a random cait sith appearance. no one gives a fuck about what he was up to, and i'd imagine it'd be extra random for new players. good job completely pulling people out of the moment.

[close]

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agreed. only dumb part of the game

i hate that character and anyone that likes him

why couldn't you just show reeve. Fuck.

[close]

[Himu]

Spoilers RE:Positive Touch and Cindi

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I like it because it makes sense why he'd be there, and I also think that it'd be easier to explain him when that time comes.

[close]

It does nothing for new players though and is too meta. You have to be in on it and it ruins the scene outside of that.

[Positive Touch]

Spoilers RE:Positive Touch and Cindi

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I like it because it makes sense why he'd be there, and I also think that it'd be easier to explain him when that time comes.

[close]

It does nothing for new players though and is too meta. You have to be in on it and it ruins the scene outside of that.

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it woulda made sense to show reeve, because he was already complaining about the event earlier. they coulda had cait blurred out in the background for observant players to notice or something, if they really wanted to put him in there. it didn't even make sense for him to be there, because he was for reeve to spy with and reeve coulda looked out the fucking window instead

[close]

whatever, this game still rules.

[Positive Touch]

ah, i can see that

[Svejk]

Just got to the sewers.  That boss was annoying af.  The Corneo arena was cake compared to it... Hell house was fun, but not difficult at all compared to that sewer boss and his stupid tsunamis.

Got the squat trophy on my third try.  Crushed it by almost 20 squats over.  I think the key thing for me was turning down the distracting music.  Made a world of difference to maintain good rhythm. 

However... Did I miss a bunch of stuff in Chapter 9??  Where's the dress scenes at the clothes shop? Also, did they remove the part where Cloud gets chased around the room then you turn around and fuck everybody up?  I was looking forward to that... Having mixed feelings about some of the changes.... Still enjoying the shit outta it... Just, huh...

[Himu]

You get the dress based on your performance in the dance mini game. That replaced the clothing shop but the drunk dad at the bar who is lost about life, the clothing shop, materia shop owner laying down, the restaurant where you eat various shit, someone at the bathroom in the bar while someone is waiting outside needing to tinkle are all there. Add in squats, various crap going on behind the doors at Honey Bee Inn, and we are there. You don't go the same route as the original but all the other stuff is still there as Easter eggs.

I have never not gotten picked by Don Corneo besides the first time I played FFVII in 1997. So I have no idea what you're talking about with people chasing Cloud. I got picked as number one by the Don and the scene was verbatim with the original.