Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[paprikastaude]

because the other thread would be filled to the brim with chuds that would mock the trans community on this very forum. You don't need a "normal" review thread.

Yes people are just itching like a crackhead needing a fix to go off on the trans community. Holy shit the paranoia.

Also that Polygon review...

The result is a game in which transphobic players (of which there will be many) can just laugh at us by using the character creator to generate models they consider worthy of mockery and derision and by gagging at the Chromanticure ads they see everywhere, or perhaps by fetishizing the model while continuing to see trans people as objects of desire but not as full human beings. Meanwhile, we trans players are left wanting in its world for depictions that humanize us.

Who the fuck does this?  Even far right-wingers don't go through such nonsensical procedures - or is there any proof for any of these harassment scenarios? They are like those boomers who write "evil gamer" episodes for shitty cop dramas.

[Averon]

The new review thread isn't even about the reviews. Other people and TransERA are still bitching and sniping at each other.

[Propagandhim]

 

This room sucks though

[BIONIC]

I wonder how many of trans era are actually trans like they had black people who weren't black.
In other words, the only way for Ritious to survive the coming purge is to come out as trans and get protection.

About riotous’ magnum dong…

[Lonewulfeus]

I wonder how many of trans era are actually trans like they had black people who weren't black.
In other words, the only way for Riotous to survive the coming purge is to come out as trans and get protection.

He can change his name to Mistress 10”

[BrokenEchelon]

Trigger warning, transphobic content below:

[Uncle]

At least one thing is clear from all this: TransERA absolutely runs ERA at this point. They are more protected than even BCT peeps.

I don't think the bct even exists anymore, the thread might still be there but the users are either all banned (Shy  :'() or spread across multiple secret discords

I really feel bad for poc still fighting for basic equality, white people once again found a way to be the loudest voice and drown them out by insisting they're even more victimized

[Nintex]

I wonder how many of trans era are actually trans like they had black people who weren't black.
In other words, the only way for Ritious to survive the coming purge is to come out as trans and get protection.

About riotous’ magnum dong…

As we know from MMaRsu's research on the subject you longer need to change your genitalia.

[maninthemirror]

So 4 out of 66 reviews ? Great job era

[Nintex]

So 4 out of 66 reviews ? Great job era

All the other reviewers will be unemployed by the end of this month.

[LurkinMerkin]

It's almost like they learned nothing and doubled down on shit.
Not to mention some french reviews are saying the game panders to natzis.

This game is a love letter to alt-right bigotry.

I really want to see the French guy's justification for the escalation to "this game is for Nazis"

[Straight Edge]

Make no mistake, Gaf is a shithole, but if I had to have my personal info released on one of the two, I'd choose Gaf over Era all day, everyday.

[MMaRsu]

On that note, I know we see some real 'holy shit' stuff from GAF on here (JordanN stands out), but from casually browsing the place this morning it really doesn't leap out as the defining trait of the forum. Even the 'fuck reset' thread has people sincerely posting 'trans rights are human rights' and calling others out for using 'cheeseburger'. To be honest, it looks mentally healthier than reset from a quick browse.

Maybe I'm just acclimatised to the hostile lunacy of Era so anything approaching a two-way conversation impresses me. I dunno.

I don't think you spent much time on NeoGAF if you think a "trans rights are human rights" post represents them well.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ellen-page-inception-juno-etc-is-now-elliot-page.1579745/

Also if you think COVID denialism is mentally healthy, NeoGAF is your place.   You see endless whining about lockdowns and face masks... even on gaming side.  Outright biggoted posts normally go completely unchallenged there... but sure, every once in a while someone will tell the bigots to stop being bigots with something like that "trans rights are human rights" post.

There are lunatics on GAF no doubt, but there are also plenty of normal posters there. Its the complete antithesis of old gaf or new Era. You are free to voice your opinion there within boundaries. And those boundaries are pretty wide.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I wonder how many of trans era are actually trans like they had black people who weren't black.
In other words, the only way for Riotous to survive the coming purge is to come out as trans and get protection.

Apart from the fact the BCT like to regularly - and really, really, really obnoxiously - play the "oh, they're not a real black tho'" card, there is to some extent an objective measurement as to whether someone actually has a different skin colour.

Part of the transactivist agenda is that its actually transphobic to question if someone who claims to be trans actually is, because they automatically are whatever they claim to be, so you have a built in deflection of any criticism you want.

[HaughtyFrank]

The people who bitched and cried about not feeling welcome keep telling anyone who wants to play this game to fuck off 

[paprikastaude]

So 4 out of 66 reviews ? Great job era

Their biggest "fight" yet... resulting in support from their two inofficial mouth pieces and I guess one or two more.

[Averon]

Tyler's looking at this entire shitstorm and he's like 

[Uncle]

Make no mistake, Gaf is a shithole, but if I had to have my personal info released on one of the two, I'd choose Gaf over Era all day, everyday.

era: literally sends your ban for racism to your employer and gets you fired, blacklists you from working anywhere other than coal mining magas

gaf: signs you up on multiple sites to receive gay porn in the mail 

[Nintex]

The people who bitched and cried about not feeling welcome keep telling anyone who wants to play this game to fuck off 

Which is why you should keep people with such personalities away from the levers of power because they cannot think rationally.

If you disagree with that assessment after a display like this then you shouldn't be near the levers of power either.

[Don Rumata]

On that note, I know we see some real 'holy shit' stuff from GAF on here (JordanN stands out), but from casually browsing the place this morning it really doesn't leap out as the defining trait of the forum. Even the 'fuck reset' thread has people sincerely posting 'trans rights are human rights' and calling others out for using 'cheeseburger'. To be honest, it looks mentally healthier than reset from a quick browse.

Maybe I'm just acclimatised to the hostile lunacy of Era so anything approaching a two-way conversation impresses me. I dunno.

I don't think you spent much time on NeoGAF if you think a "trans rights are human rights" post represents them well.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ellen-page-inception-juno-etc-is-now-elliot-page.1579745/

Also if you think COVID denialism is mentally healthy, NeoGAF is your place.   You see endless whining about lockdowns and face masks... even on gaming side.  Outright biggoted posts normally go completely unchallenged there... but sure, every once in a while someone will tell the bigots to stop being bigots with something like that "trans rights are human rights" post.

There are lunatics on GAF no doubt, but there are also plenty of normal posters there. Its the complete antithesis of old gaf or new Era. You are free to voice your opinion there within boundaries. And those boundaries are pretty wide.

Unless it relates to Lore in any way? 

[headwalk]

i need to rock up resetera with my uyghur crew, who make all their toys in slave labour camps. keep shitting threads into oblivion until all references to consumer electronics can only be made in the context of worker exploitation.

they just want to feel safe.

edit: fucking hell, just read someone else on ree make this point. deleting my account.

[Ghoul]

This is what happens when you deny the delinquents hype over their new game for a few hours.

- Kyuuji (who will be playing the game at launch lmao)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cyberpunk-2077-reviews-that-highlight-the-transphobia-issues.339976/page-5#post-53398549

The review thread is locked again as it went to shit.

[maninthemirror]

So you create a thread about a game and it’s “transphobic” issues

- you only allow reviews which mention trans issues
- you disallow the 90% of other reviews which mention the game
- you don’t allow the folks to discuss the game but the trans issue
- you then say this is the official review thread
- you also have the cdpr thread which is the exact same as this review thread
- you lay a trap for posters who don’t want to froth their mouth but discuss the game
- you get the mods to permaban all members who want to discuss the game

[Coffee Dog]

On that note, I know we see some real 'holy shit' stuff from GAF on here (JordanN stands out), but from casually browsing the place this morning it really doesn't leap out as the defining trait of the forum. Even the 'fuck reset' thread has people sincerely posting 'trans rights are human rights' and calling others out for using 'cheeseburger'. To be honest, it looks mentally healthier than reset from a quick browse.

Maybe I'm just acclimatised to the hostile lunacy of Era so anything approaching a two-way conversation impresses me. I dunno.

I don't think you spent much time on NeoGAF if you think a "trans rights are human rights" post represents them well.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ellen-page-inception-juno-etc-is-now-elliot-page.1579745/

Also if you think COVID denialism is mentally healthy, NeoGAF is your place.   You see endless whining about lockdowns and face masks... even on gaming side.  Outright biggoted posts normally go completely unchallenged there... but sure, every once in a while someone will tell the bigots to stop being bigots with something like that "trans rights are human rights" post.

There are lunatics on GAF no doubt, but there are also plenty of normal posters there. Its the complete antithesis of old gaf or new Era. You are free to voice your opinion there within boundaries. And those boundaries are pretty wide.

Hit dogs that holler just the same as 4chan or every other chud userbase. Don't give them this credit when they make threads that object to devs even hiring women or minorities. The site has no identity or culture of its own that separates it from those beyond it's walls, unlike era which does at least have its own culture as bad as it is

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

So you create a thread about a game and it’s “transphobic” issues

- you only allow reviews which mention trans issues
- you disallow the 90% of other reviews which mention the game
- you don’t allow the folks to discuss the game but the trans issue
- you then say this is the official review thread
- you also have the cdpr thread which is the exact same as this review thread
- you lay a trap for posters who don’t want to froth their mouth but discuss the game
- you get the mods to permaban all members who want to discuss the game

 - while enjoying the free copy you snagged 'for research' after months of saying its definitely unqeuivocally offensively transphobic and no context can possibly change that

[Clockwork5]

We wanted this thread to highlight the reviews that discuss the transphobia, but it has immediately veered into meta-discussion and in-fighting instead of discussing those reviews, so we are locking this.

Didn’t even last an hour. The mods, as usual, fucked everything up beyond belief. The OT is going to be a disaster.

[paprikastaude]

All you resettis lurking for whom only now it might sink in.



Go to reddit or something, it's actually not an alt-right site like you've been told. Or Twitter, just put prominent resettis on ignore if you see them. You can post about videogames and reviews like normal people pretty much anywhere else.

[Uncle]

On that note, I know we see some real 'holy shit' stuff from GAF on here (JordanN stands out), but from casually browsing the place this morning it really doesn't leap out as the defining trait of the forum. Even the 'fuck reset' thread has people sincerely posting 'trans rights are human rights' and calling others out for using 'cheeseburger'. To be honest, it looks mentally healthier than reset from a quick browse.

Maybe I'm just acclimatised to the hostile lunacy of Era so anything approaching a two-way conversation impresses me. I dunno.

I don't think you spent much time on NeoGAF if you think a "trans rights are human rights" post represents them well.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/ellen-page-inception-juno-etc-is-now-elliot-page.1579745/

Also if you think COVID denialism is mentally healthy, NeoGAF is your place.   You see endless whining about lockdowns and face masks... even on gaming side.  Outright biggoted posts normally go completely unchallenged there... but sure, every once in a while someone will tell the bigots to stop being bigots with something like that "trans rights are human rights" post.

There are lunatics on GAF no doubt, but there are also plenty of normal posters there. Its the complete antithesis of old gaf or new Era. You are free to voice your opinion there within boundaries. And those boundaries are pretty wide.

Hit dogs that holler just the same as 4chan or every other chud userbase. Don't give them this credit when they make threads that object to devs even hiring women or minorities. The site has no identity or culture of its own that separates it from those beyond it's walls, unlike era which does at least have its own culture as bad as it is

god I can't imagine how bad it must be, posting on a forum that objects to women being hired

A sexy Jew.
A sexy Jew who did national service.
A sex Jew who did national service and became a movie star.
A hot Jew who did national service and became a movie star is presenting a video game award.

I wonder how the liberal allies and progressives at Ree will deal with that?

She's a coward, a murderer and a bigot.
 

Fuck this IDF soldier

Fuck her and the tank she rode in on.

Who better than a Israeli to present GOTY to another Israeli ? rs
 

fuck gal gadot and her idf, child murder, genocide defending ass. she's a vile, disgusting human being.
 

Fuck Gal Gadot.

Gal Gadot is a vile human being.
 

This show celebrated boogie and total biscuit, it’s not like they have standards.
 

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[Uncle]

[Propagandhim]

I mean it's your new game, too. 

[BrokenEchelon]

Thread locked

[paprikastaude]

(Image removed from quote.)

Well, thankfully you already have your copy. 

[knux-future]

We wanted this thread to highlight the reviews that discuss the transphobia, but it has immediately veered into meta-discussion and in-fighting instead of discussing those reviews, so we are locking this.

Didn’t even last an hour. The mods, as usual, fucked everything up beyond belief. The OT is going to be a disaster.

oh wow imagine that.

bending over to one group and one group only leads to people not exactly liking that.

what a surprise.

I told them this will only lead to resentment towards TransEra....which is terrible for the "cause" lol.

[ShutUp]

This is what happens when you deny the delinquents hype over their new game for a few hours.

- Kyuuji (who will be playing the game at launch lmao)

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cyberpunk-2077-reviews-that-highlight-the-transphobia-issues.339976/page-5#post-53398549

The review thread is locked again as it went to shit.

Yes it’s everyone else that are acting like delinquents. As for “this is what happens when you deny them” lol they are in a discord chat no doubt, thrilled it’s a game that looks really good despite the bugs. Nice gotcha attempt Kyuuji!

[LurkinMerkin]

The Black Chamber episode should be a further lesson: you can learn a whole lot about what poster's don't say and where they choose to post. It's so hard to ignore all the "civil" meta questioning of why we can't discuss game from posters that continuously engaged in Cyberpunk media hype, seen the disaster that unfolded, and choose still to not make any amends here of pop-in to show support.
 

Let the blacklisting of those guilty by acts of ommission commence, wait I mean continue!

[Clockwork5]

It does suck for them though. Being a part of a community for years, hyping on the game with fellow CyberPunk and CDPR fans and building relationships within that community, being cast to the shadows and being forced to quietly discuss all of the new trailers and leaks in a single thread while the goofballs are allowed to storm in and call everyone bigots at any moment. Playing by the rules for the past year and then 4 days before the game releases TransEra panics and creates a giant shitstorm which ends up banning any positive discussion of the game.

It’s gotta suck to leave that Cyberpunk community behind just to be another rando on Reddit or GameFaqs.

[team filler]

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=38376.1020

[Tasty]

It is going to be funny when GAF outlasts Reset though.

It's going to be deeply sad from multiple angles.

[ShutUp]

The sudden revulsion of hype over games and hype threads will be fascinating to see completely disappear when the next big release approaches. Hope people passive aggressively shit up the threads, wondering why the hype threads are allowed and people can’t be excited for the game.

[Joe Molotov]

The Black Chamber episode

Have you guys seen the new Black Chamber episode? It's pretty freaky.

[ShutUp]

It does suck for them though. Being a part of a community for years, hyping on the game with fellow CyberPunk and CDPR fans and building relationships within that community, being cast to the shadows and being forced to quietly discuss all of the new trailers and leaks in a single thread while the goofballs are allowed to storm in and call everyone bigots at any moment. Playing by the rules for the past year and then 4 days before the game releases TransEra panics and creates a giant shitstorm which ends up banning any positive discussion of the game.

It’s gotta suck to leave that Cyberpunk community behind just to be another rando on Reddit or GameFaqs.

Yup it’s total bullshit. Mods had numerous chances to nip it in the bud and instead chose to cower in fear and give one small community what they wanted, again and again.

[BisMarckie]

A lot of users showed their true colors on the review thread, it doesn't matter if it's closed, report them and don't let them get away with it.

 

I do think that the staff should probably reassess how they deal with discourse on the site and accountability. I don’t know if you folks had a community meeting like others have had but might be time for another.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

It does suck for them though. Being a part of a community for years, hyping on the game with fellow CyberPunk and CDPR fans and building relationships within that community, being cast to the shadows and being forced to quietly discuss all of the new trailers and leaks in a single thread while the goofballs are allowed to storm in and call everyone bigots at any moment. Playing by the rules for the past year and then 4 days before the game releases TransEra panics and creates a giant shitstorm which ends up banning any positive discussion of the game.

It’s gotta suck to leave that Cyberpunk community behind just to be another rando on Reddit or GameFaqs.

A cynic might suggest it wasn't a panic at all, but all according to keikaku if you couldn't get the outright ban you originally wanted, but getting the OP banned before they could submit the topic by, I don't know, demanding they make an on the record statement of position, and then releasing PMs to undermine that statement to then demand a ban while also pushing for further demands.

The only hitch to that plan might be someone just blindly acquiescing and dodging that ban. Luckily there's always post histories and twitter to scour for oppo research!

[Uncle]

once again you really gotta hand it to kyuuji

the moment I mean THE MOMENT it looks like the forum might start to turn against her, in a trump-style masterstroke she uses the 24/7 news cycle to flip the discussion to black chamber, and now everyone has forgotten that after months/years of screeching she got her key and will be playing right along with everyone else

[HaughtyFrank]

They even let Catherine easier off than Cyberpunk. 

This really isn't about the game and the content itself, what really pisses them off is that it's popular and apparently a great game.

[SmokyDave]

About 10 years ago I went out for a drink with some friends, and in our wider circle was a transwoman and her girlfriend. Late in the night we moved to another bar, and they wanted to go and get some cash. I told them I'd sort their drinks out until we found somewhere later, as did some others, but they were insistent. They never joined us at that bar because the transwoman was hospitalised before she got anywhere near the cashpoint. I think half of us knew it was coming too. It was fucking horrible and I think about what I should have changed that night more often than I should.

This cat....

The more I here about this game the more it confirms my worst fears. What a hateful and immature company. I am also seething at seeing so many people in the closed thread complaining about fan voices being silenced after months of the trans community being ignored and hateful gaslighters being given not just the benefit of the doubt but the power to set the tone of the conversation on this forum.

I truly feel that TransEra should have the final say with what happens to this game on this site. I know days ago they only wanted reasonable exposure of the issue in the OT, but a lot has happened since then. If they want this banned it should be banned, if they want a critical OT then they should get that and Mods should put in the work to make sure that people can't just troll the thread and harass any of the trans users. At this point protecting the trans community here from hateful fans should be the absolute priority.

This cat is talking about a videogame.

[Tasty]

The Black Chamber episode should be a further lesson: you can learn a whole lot about what poster's don't say

Negative reverse-purity mind tests bullshit

[BisMarckie]

We were a few days away from this site becoming even more hellish with people ignoring critical voices completely.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

So everyone raise your hands if you were shocked that the transphobic marketing for Cyberpunk 2077 turned out to NOT be subversive advertising and that not only is the game transphobic, but racist and sexist as well. I’m shocked. SHOCKED. I tell you!

/s

awwwww bless, someones feeling like a grumpasaurus the dramas not about them

[Hermit]

Watching this from the sidelines has been something else. What a wild fucking ride.

[Transhuman]

It’s gotta suck to leave that Cyberpunk community behind just to be another rando on Reddit or GameFaqs.

Yeah, but there's still, y'know, the rest of life... He needs to just rip that bandaid off. Sounds like this game is trash so not for nothing maybe they did him a favour.

[Averon]

We were a few days away from this site becoming even more hellish with people ignoring critical voices completely.

So, how does pigeon-holing all discussion of the game to a single pinned thread, pushing people to leave the forum, and fomenting resentment towards TransERA "getting people to listen?" 

[HaughtyFrank]

So everyone raise your hands if you were shocked that the transphobic marketing for Cyberpunk 2077 turned out to NOT be subversive advertising and that not only is the game transphobic, but racist and sexist as well. I’m shocked. SHOCKED. I tell you!

/s

awwwww bless, someones feeling like a grumpasaurus the dramas not about them

Ah, the asexual poster is back to complain about improper sexualisation. That still rings a bit weird to me to be honest. Like it's literally not for you, no matter how it's included.

[BisMarckie]

Again, if it is decided that the trans community cannot tolerate any discussion for their own safety and health, that is the direction we should take and I'll back it 100%.

THEIR OWN SAFETY AND HEALTH

[BisMarckie]

Remember when astro got attacked by a knife wielding alt-righter in an UK post office?

[Ghoul]

transphobic because colors.

[Joe Molotov]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuckkkkkkkkkkk ooooooooooooooffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

[Nintex]

Watching this from the sidelines has been something else. What a wild fucking ride.

Seeing the bore community come together like this in time for the holiday season really warms my heart

[BisMarckie]

I just wish benji was here furiously posting quotes every five seconds

[Uncle]