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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36480 on: February 02, 2021, 05:54:53 PM »
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Because those people (yes, a lot of TERFs and transphobes) see themselves as the default. The normal. In their mind there is no label for them other than, "normal". They use labels to define someone as the other, so when they get labeled it's seen as an attempt to be othered and that means they're no longer seen as normal. It's a threat to their defaultness.





Yep, it's definitely the "normal" people who are into labelling others, right?
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« Reply #36481 on: February 02, 2021, 06:00:25 PM »
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the insult in "cis scum" is scum
"hear cis as an insult" makes no sense because cis is not the insult
Right, so if I call someone an "asian cunt", the real insult is in the word cunt?

These people don't even follow their own rules.
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« Reply #36482 on: February 02, 2021, 06:17:50 PM »
It's 2 cats. I can't believe you guys are defending SF landlords of all things lol.

I bet his place smells like piss. I'd want to kick him out too.


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OP's wife has a note from her psychologist saying she needs her cat. he cures her insomnia.
:comeon
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36483 on: February 02, 2021, 06:33:50 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/terrorist-trump-cultists-begin-getting-arrested-and-fired-from-jobs.357118/post-57664725
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SilentPanda deserves a user tag for his contribution in this thread.

Or, you know, you could just visit https://lawandcrime.com/  and see where he copy/pasts all his stories from.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36484 on: February 02, 2021, 07:19:53 PM »
It's 2 cats. I can't believe you guys are defending SF landlords of all things lol.

I bet his place smells like piss. I'd want to kick him out too.


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OP's wife has a note from her psychologist saying she needs her cat. he cures her insomnia.
:comeon

The first cat cures her insomnia, and the second cat cures the first cat

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36485 on: February 02, 2021, 07:24:28 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-do-some-cisgender-people-hate-the-term-cisgender.372087/

for a forum which constantly complains about different social constructs they now complain why their newly created social construct item is not being followed

The same forum that throws a fit over the difference between transgender and transgendered

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-do-some-cisgender-people-hate-the-term-cisgender.372087/post-57719409

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Why does there need to be a term for it.

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Because we should stop treating cis as the default
It IS the fucking default you Muppet...

I referred to some of my coworkers as "two-asscheeked folks" just once and now they're taking me to HR as if I did something wrong



not everyone is so privileged that they get to enjoy life without this numerical descriptor literally attached to them, we need to stop assuming a default and make sure everyone feels welcome
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36486 on: February 02, 2021, 07:35:34 PM »
I thought the goal was to cancel everyone :thinking
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36487 on: February 02, 2021, 09:00:30 PM »
If you want an example of just how stupid NUGaf is, today they're taking Tim Dillon seriously -


https://www.neogaf.com/threads/tim-dillon-went-full-alex-jones-yesterday-on-big-tech-giants-profiting-from-covid-and-enslaving-us.1589393/

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36488 on: February 03, 2021, 12:37:37 AM »
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I would think for most slurs it’s commonly accepted that if you aren’t someone it’s used towards, you don’t ever say the word even when talking about someone else using it, right? So I would also think the same standard should be applied here, instead of letting people use it freely as long as they’re quoting something.

A slur is a slur, it doesn’t matter if it’s being “used as a slur” or not.
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I would extend this logic to the c word, which I regularly report around here, often to no response or action. I know it's slang outside of America. That doesn't make it acceptable on a board that is very America-centric and also has deeply rooted issues with misogyny.

None of these words are acceptable, and the use of them outside of their offensive context simply normalizes their use.
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I would also say that I have noticed a lot of misogynistic language has been allowed in general as long as it was directed at Trump and such. Theoretically it's at least unlikely to happen as much now, but I was surprised by how common it was.
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I agree it is really shocking to see that word used here.
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Absolutely. I've given up the fight with some "lesser" slurs (like bitch or pussy)  personally -- I think it's disgusting for men to use them to degrade anyone regardless of their gender, but I don't have any faith men here will keep those two out of their mouths when they can't stop using something as profane as the c word. Baby steps I guess.

I would love a response to this from the staff, especially consider rras1994 brought it up weeks ago with no reply.
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This is something that's often debated internally as well, and what makes it so difficult is that for large parts of the world, and a large number of members, that word simply isn't as profane as it is in America. We host large communities from countries like the UK and Australia and we try not to be America-centric when moderating countries that aren't the US. Currently, it's forbidden to use the term to describe other members of the forum, period. Beyond that, we take action when it looks like the poster is being deliberately sexist or misogynistic. I will say though, that this isn't settled policy, and there are ongoing discussions about it.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36489 on: February 03, 2021, 01:42:47 AM »
Morrigan gonna try to ban the word cunt again.

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I mean, if she banned it again, they could always use her name as a euphemism for "cunt".
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36490 on: February 03, 2021, 01:49:24 AM »
Morrigan gonna try to ban the word cunt again.

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don't be such an immanuel

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36492 on: February 03, 2021, 03:43:20 AM »
FACT CHECK:

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36494 on: February 03, 2021, 04:49:51 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-do-some-cisgender-people-hate-the-term-cisgender.372087/page-13

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While the topic is in theory acceptable, the quality of discussion has been quite bad, so we've elected to lock the thread. We will also be reviewing posts and handing out bans to those that fail to meet our guidelines.

Just to make it clear: there is nothing at all sus about the term. It's a simple descriptor. If being "labeled" in this way makes you uncomfortable, it's time for some self reflection about why that is.

Too many cis scum openly disagreed with the premise of thread, so time to shut it down and hand out bans.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36495 on: February 03, 2021, 05:05:07 AM »
Poodle pretending he ain’t a trans-hating racist  :kermit
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« Reply #36496 on: February 03, 2021, 05:40:27 AM »
I liked this bit:

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Then why is the OP asking why people don't like being referred to as one? Sorry dude, you're off base on this one.
Some homophobic Straight people don't like being called Straight doesn't make Straight a slur

Also *dudette

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Don't take it personal. I've called all my female friends dudes, and I even refer to my male friends as ladies at times =)

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Whatever

You're not slick with the rest of your shit, so you don't get the benefit of the doubt.

Kinda hostile response there from the same person banging on about how everyone should accept being labelled by others. Especially given this bit happened in the middle:

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It's a benign term.

This is absurd.

Rules for thee, but none for me.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36497 on: February 03, 2021, 05:57:17 AM »
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I mean, if she banned it again, they could always use her name as a euphemism for "cunt".
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the proper euphemism is 'Australian'

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36498 on: February 03, 2021, 07:03:12 AM »
Cheeky cunt

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« Reply #36499 on: February 03, 2021, 07:26:24 AM »
Quote from: Aomame, post: 57763464, member: 12270
There's no way to pretend that this isn't an America-centric board. Etcetera is regularly filled with threads about US politics. I understand however wanting to be sympathetic and even welcoming to other cultures, but there's a way to do that without pissing off and alienating a large swath of your users -- users who identify as female and who are regularly pushed off of and alienated from this forum for a swath of other reasons. It is a difficult line to cross because it engages the ethics of cultural relativism, but in this case, it really doesn't have to be that complicated. Ban the word. If someone from the UK or AUS or wherever uses it in a "non-offensive" way, simply have them edit the post and give them the heads up "hey, we know you meant not harm by using this word, but it is deeply offensive elsewhere in the world and we don't allow its use on these forums." I promise they can be creative enough to come up with a different word.

Part of being on an international forum is being conscious of other cultures and not disrespecting other people, intentionally and not. I simply don't understand why a horrendously offensive slur becomes okay because other cultures use it differently. That's fine, but you're in mixed company here. You have no idea who you're replying to or who is reading. Pick a different word.

Permitting "oh but it's okay in my culture!" opens up the door to abuse. There are lines in the sand that have to be drawn. This is an easy one.

 :usacry  :salute  :morans
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36500 on: February 03, 2021, 07:39:56 AM »
lol soft cunts
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36501 on: February 03, 2021, 07:48:39 AM »
WOW IF ONLY THERE WAS SOME KIND OF BUILT IN FUNCTIONALITY THAT WOULD MAKE DISALLOWED WORDS BE AUTOMATICALLY FILTERED SO USERS DO NOT SEE THEM AND ACCIDENTAL OFFENCE WASN'T CAUSED AND INTERNET JANITORS DIDN'T HAVE TO SWOOP IN AND BAN PEOPLE FOR JUST TALKING WHILE UNAWARE THAT CERTAIN WORDS OR PHRASES ARE NOT ALLOWED

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« Reply #36502 on: February 03, 2021, 08:18:56 AM »
I don't think those whinging minges could be pacified with a word filter. Anyone reading a filtered word would still be flipping out, and anyone that triggered the filter would still be in danger of a ban.

Unless they said 'bastard', because nobody ever took legitimate offence to that before.

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« Reply #36503 on: February 03, 2021, 08:21:54 AM »
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I make an entire post about how, despite not being illegal at the time, a holiday to Barbados, and the subsequent defences of said holiday, disrespect those who voluntarily sacrificed large chunks of their lives to stop the virus.

First reply: "But it wasn't illegal tho."

I give up. Honestly that's fucking shocked me. That so many people have sacrificed so fucking much and all of it might as well not exist to some people because their personal hero needs defending. We truly treat every fucking thing as just another fight-to-be-won, and it's just. so. tiring.
 



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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36504 on: February 03, 2021, 09:40:41 AM »
Imagine scouring the internet looking who to cancel today and landing on a dead ww2 veteran



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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36507 on: February 03, 2021, 10:53:01 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvel-spider-man-miles-morales-has-sold-through-4-1-million-units-as-of-end-of-december.372375/#post-57755241

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Lesson of the Day: Black excellence sells

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Hey, I see at least one black dude in the pic... that's one more than a lot of other smaller western game companies...
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36508 on: February 03, 2021, 11:01:18 AM »

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36509 on: February 03, 2021, 11:04:14 AM »
Boy this is backfiring.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-gamers-so-eager-to-trust-and-even-forgive-the-snake-oil-salesmen.372420/

I mean I agree with everything he's saying, but it's the wrong audience. Most of them just don't understand that there's a difference between patching a performance bug after launch versus having to create completely new content to deliver on your promises. One is a mistake, the other is intentional.

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« Reply #36510 on: February 03, 2021, 11:28:20 AM »
Boy this is backfiring.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-gamers-so-eager-to-trust-and-even-forgive-the-snake-oil-salesmen.372420/

I mean I agree with everything he's saying, but it's the wrong audience. Most of them just don't understand that there's a difference between patching a performance bug after launch versus having to create completely new content to deliver on your promises. One is a mistake, the other is intentional.

He does seem to have a very pointed, enduring grudge about Sean Murray and it colors the argument.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36511 on: February 03, 2021, 11:34:13 AM »
Boy this is backfiring.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-gamers-so-eager-to-trust-and-even-forgive-the-snake-oil-salesmen.372420/

I mean I agree with everything he's saying, but it's the wrong audience. Most of them just don't understand that there's a difference between patching a performance bug after launch versus having to create completely new content to deliver on your promises. One is a mistake, the other is intentional.

He does seem to have a very pointed, enduring grudge about Sean Murray and it colors the argument.

He's still mad about No Mans Sky? fuck me :lol

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« Reply #36512 on: February 03, 2021, 11:35:55 AM »
LOL. They locked the thread.  Why?

And why do these goobers spam report. ERA is full of snitches.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36513 on: February 03, 2021, 11:36:20 AM »
Boy this is backfiring.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-gamers-so-eager-to-trust-and-even-forgive-the-snake-oil-salesmen.372420/

I mean I agree with everything he's saying, but it's the wrong audience. Most of them just don't understand that there's a difference between patching a performance bug after launch versus having to create completely new content to deliver on your promises. One is a mistake, the other is intentional.

He does seem to have a very pointed, enduring grudge about Sean Murray and it colors the argument.

He's still mad about No Mans Sky? fuck me :lol

He mentions that he lost a magazine cover story because of the No Man sky hype so I get that it's a bit more personal for him

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« Reply #36514 on: February 03, 2021, 11:39:22 AM »
Boy this is backfiring.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-gamers-so-eager-to-trust-and-even-forgive-the-snake-oil-salesmen.372420/

I mean I agree with everything he's saying, but it's the wrong audience. Most of them just don't understand that there's a difference between patching a performance bug after launch versus having to create completely new content to deliver on your promises. One is a mistake, the other is intentional.

He does seem to have a very pointed, enduring grudge about Sean Murray and it colors the argument.

I don't think it's a grudge, it's just the only example where he had a direct experience of one of his games getting less attention due to some other title over-promising stuff it was never going to have.

If he was releasing a game in 2005 or 2020, then he probably would have had a paragraph long backstory about how gaming media snubbed him to cover Fable or CP2077. And then everybody would tell him to stop having a hate-boner for CDPR or Lionhead, as their deception paled in comparison to NMS.

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« Reply #36515 on: February 03, 2021, 11:41:07 AM »
He made 2D platformer with fancy cartoony art #498. Not sure why he was expecting any attention :lol

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« Reply #36517 on: February 03, 2021, 11:55:48 AM »
I never knew Gillberg had a side job making vidya :trumps
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« Reply #36518 on: February 03, 2021, 12:01:02 PM »
Hold up this nicca made a legit game and isnt just butt hurt that his 8bit steam landfill platformer got ignored? :titus

Starting a thread on ree crying about it might be even more pathetic especially considering his game had ample press and praise :doge

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« Reply #36519 on: February 03, 2021, 01:02:08 PM »
The Ori games are fine, but are really just cookie cutter metroidvania with a nice art style.


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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36521 on: February 03, 2021, 01:12:08 PM »
Hold up this nicca made a legit game and isnt just butt hurt that his 8bit steam landfill platformer got ignored? :titus

Starting a thread on ree crying about it might be even more pathetic especially considering his game had ample press and praise :doge

True, it's a bit weird that he's holding a grudge when he still hit it big anyway.

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« Reply #36522 on: February 03, 2021, 01:14:04 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/vegan-influencers-keep-comparing-meat-eating-to-the-holocaust-and-slavery.372633/

ITT: :spiders

https://www.resetera.com/threads/zack-snyder-says-his-fanbase-is-not-toxic-they’ve-probably-achieved-more-than-any-other-fan-base-and-done-more-good-than-any-other-group.372603/

Rees keep comparing Zach Snyder and his fans to white supremacists  :teehee
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« Reply #36523 on: February 03, 2021, 01:17:11 PM »
Hold up this nicca made a legit game and isnt just butt hurt that his 8bit steam landfill platformer got ignored? :titus

Starting a thread on ree crying about it might be even more pathetic especially considering his game had ample press and praise :doge

True, it's a bit weird that he's holding a grudge when he still hit it big anyway.

Plus going n a public forum and bitching about other developers while openly representing what I imagine is still a relatively small company doesn't seem like the best idea :doge
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36524 on: February 03, 2021, 01:22:39 PM »
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How they feel about actual slavery, slave wages and poor folks?

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The Whitest of Nonsense

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Feels like this leans more towards being a white people issue than a vegan issue

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“What does it say about (veganism) that Black and brown people are more likely to be vegan, yet we persist with this reputation that the movement is white and elite?”

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« Reply #36525 on: February 03, 2021, 01:59:44 PM »
*Thomas joined the call*

"Thank's for inviting me Phil how are things?"

"Thank you Thomas, I just wanted to say that you've been a great friend of Xbox. We love MOON Studios and obviously the great work that you guys have done for Xbox. Look we're taking Xbox into a new exciting Direction and as one of the heroes who delivered for us at Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X launch I want you to be part of this new story and give you guys a much bigger role at Xbox Studios going forward."

"Wow, thanks Phil. I trust you read my draft game design document for Ori 3. I'm really excited about the new direction and I'm sure that with the additional budget we can..."

"Absolutely fantastic work but we're sort of in a transition right now to see where the market goes and evolves and exploring other exciting opportunities now that we've expanded our development teams."

"Transition... ?"

"Let me explain what we discussed here with the team in Redmond. We know that this pandemic is hard on you guys in Europe and we want to keep true to our no crunch policy. MOON Studios will be rebranded to XBOX STUDIOS AUSTRIA, don't you just love that logo? And no more paperwork, how cool is that Thomas?"

"I uuhhh"

"Fantastic right. You will become part of our premier team of XBOX STUDIOS EUROPE under the leadership of Jade Raymond who will soon join us on this exciting journey. Platform games are not doing well on Xbox. We know this and we intend to fix this soon. The rumors are true, we're buying SONIC to cultivate an audience for platform games on Xbox. In the mean time we don't want to hold you guys back in what you do best. So instead we've decided that Xbox Studios Austria will use all their incredible talent to assist with the development of FABLE and HALO INFINITE and you will finally join the big leagues. If this pays off you'll be co-producing HALO and SONIC games before you can say MASTER CHIEF. We have some fantastic UI and 2D Art contract positions that are just perfect for your team and as you know the budget on HALO is INFINITE. So you can really do that pixel magic on an incredible scale. What do you say Thomas, are you excited to be on this journey with us?"

"I don't know what to say Phil..."

"I knew you'd love it and I know you love Xbox and video games! Say, have you played Cyberpunk? I gotta say you guys in Europe make fantastic games. And I think that when we get back to Ori once SONIC puts us back on our feet... and I personally love Ori we can really take it to new exciting places. Maybe even a different universe, you know get really ambitious like No Man's Sky. Once I get the new designs for SONIC I would very much like your take on them! Hang in there my friend and give my best to your amazing team!"

*Phil left the call*

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This is something that's been bothering me for a while and I get kinda riled up about it every time I see it unfold. And every time it keeps happening, people keep falling for it...

It all started with Molyneux. He was the master of 'Instead of telling you what my product is, let me just go wild with what I think it could be and get you all excited!" - And that was fine, until you actually put your money down and then the game was nothing like what Peter was hyping it up to be. He pulled this shit for a good decade or more with journalists and gamers loving listening to Uncle Peter and the amazing things he's doing for the industry. It took him to release some pretty damn shoddy games for press and gamers to finally not listen to the lies anymore.

Then came Sean Murray, who apparently had learned straight from the Peter Molyneux handbook. This guy apparently just loooooved the spotlight. Even days before No Man's Sky released, he hyped up the Multiplayer that didn't even exist and was all too happy to let people think that No Man's Sky was 'Minecraft in Space', where you could literally do everything (you being able to do everything is generally a common theme behind the gaming snake oil salesmen, cause hey, that sorta attracts everybody!). Obviously there was massive backlash when No Man's Sky finally released and the product being nothing like what Murray hyped it up to be. But what happened then? They released a bunch of updates, so let's forget about the initial lies and deception and hey, let's actually shower him with awards again, cause he finally kinda sorta delivered on what he said the game would be years earlier. Thanks, Geoff Keighley. Rewarding that kinda behavior will surely help the industry grow stronger.

And then came Cyberpunk. Made by the guys that made Witcher 3, so this shit had to be good. Here's our Cyberpunk universe and - trust us - you can do fucking everything! Here the entire CDPR PR department took all the cues from what worked for Molyneux and Murray and just went completely apeshit with it. Gamers were to believe that this is "Sci-Fi GTA in First Person". What's not to love? Every video released by CDPR was carefully crafted to create a picture in players minds that was just insanely compelling. They stopped just short of outright saying that this thing would cure cancer. This strategy resulted in a sensational 8 million pre-orders. What happened then was this: https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=_CymqHdNYkg. The product was a fraction of what the developer hyped it up to be and on top of that it barely even ran on consoles that it was supposed to 'run surprisingly well on!'.

I'd argue that all 3 of those are clear examples of you folks all being made fools of. And even the 'journalists' in this industry happily played along, each and every single time.

And let me also say, from the perspective of a developer, all of this just sucks. Back in 2014, I remember some journalist from some big publication telling us that Ori almost got the cover article of some magazine I read frequently, but ultimately they had to pick No Man's Sky cause it was the 'bigger game'. I kinda agreed back then, thinking to myself: "Ok, I get it, they have to promote the bigger game, they obviously have to go for the clicks. Sucks, but that's how the game is played." But then I really felt bamboozled once No Man's Sky came out and it became clear that all this hype was really just built on lies and the honest guy who just showed his actual product really got kicked in the balls because the lying guy was able to make up some tall tales that held absolutely no substance.

I know this whole thread might come off as me sounding bitter and I'm sure there'll be some people that see this as me shitting on other devs. No, I'm not. I'm shitting on liars and people that are okay with openly deceiving others. I'd argue that we should all agree that this shit is not okay. If I go and buy a car and the car salesman sells me a car that supposedly has 300 horse power, but on the drive home after the purchase I notice that he switched out the motor when I wasn't looking, I'd be rightfully pissed off, cause I was deceived.

And yet, gamers and journalists don't really seem to mind all that much. Yeah, the backlash is coming, but usually you see a ton of people then arguing that they like the game that came out of it anyway. That is so not the point. It doesn't matter if the snake oil actually tastes fine. Don't sell me on features that don't exist. Don't paint a picture that you'll not be able to deliver. Just don't fucking lie to me. You're fucking over gamers, you're fucking over journalists (that should know better, so shame on you!) and you're fucking over other developers.

There, I said my piece, felt like a chip I needed to get off my shoulder and I think this is a wrong that we should set right so that this won't happen anymore.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36526 on: February 03, 2021, 03:13:34 PM »
Quote from: Hella
It is deeply irresponsible to encourage gamer rage for any reason, especially as a developer.

Please, don't.

 :rage
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36527 on: February 03, 2021, 03:15:48 PM »
Quote from: Hella
It is deeply irresponsible to encourage gamer rage for any reason, especially as a developer.

Please, don't.

 :rage

Where was that energy when they harassed that russian cosplayer about her cyberpunk cosplay?  :thinking

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36528 on: February 03, 2021, 03:21:24 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/zack-snyder-says-his-fanbase-is-not-toxic-they%E2%80%99ve-probably-achieved-more-than-any-other-fan-base-and-done-more-good-than-any-other-group.372603/page-8#post-57802092
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Locked due to the number of reports that are being generated.

Looks like Excel been getting the report button a workout again.  :lol
RIP to everyone in that thread that dared to push back against Excel.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36529 on: February 03, 2021, 03:27:48 PM »
Zack Snyder fans are probably not very intelligent but Marvel fans are way more toxic. I imagine part of the push to the SnyderCut is the derision that caused until it become a meme.

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« Reply #36530 on: February 03, 2021, 03:33:06 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/zack-snyder-says-his-fanbase-is-not-toxic-they%E2%80%99ve-probably-achieved-more-than-any-other-fan-base-and-done-more-good-than-any-other-group.372603/page-8#post-57802092
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Locked due to the number of reports that are being generated.

Looks like Excel been getting the report button a workout again.  :lol
RIP to everyone in that thread that dared to push back against Excel.

RE mods need to find a way to clear their backlogs. No more temp locking threads until you've finished your old temp locked threads!

Also it's amazing how many times threads are locked due to the number of reports. What an incredibly thin skinned and bitchy community where everyone just wants to see their opposite banned

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36531 on: February 03, 2021, 03:38:10 PM »
My question is what was in that thread that demanded a deluge of reports? That people disagreed with you that Zack Snyder is Trump 2.0?
« Last Edit: February 03, 2021, 06:00:53 PM by Averon »

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36532 on: February 03, 2021, 03:54:19 PM »
My question is what is in that thread that demanded a deluge of reports? That people disagree with you that Zack Snyder is Trump 2.0?
That's what i'm wondering... Is it true that Excel mashes that report button?

But anyway, the irony over there is thick. They're so toxic in their own fanboy ways that they hate Zack Snyder on the same level they hate Trump. That's why they make the comparison so often.

I bet a lot of the same users would then talk about someone's 'privilege' in another thread.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36533 on: February 03, 2021, 06:10:58 PM »
Good for him!

To all the commenters that aren’t black: keep your racist ass thoughts to yourselves. He can do whatever he wants with that money.

 :picard

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« Reply #36534 on: February 03, 2021, 06:12:58 PM »
President Snyder :lawd
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« Reply #36535 on: February 03, 2021, 06:14:05 PM »
A new round of Snyder triggering the Marvel brigade  :popcorn

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36536 on: February 03, 2021, 06:14:40 PM »
Good for him!

To all the commenters that aren’t black: keep your racist ass thoughts to yourselves. He can do whatever he wants with that money.

 :picard
OMG. Try that in reverse and see how quickly you get permabanned.
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« Reply #36537 on: February 03, 2021, 06:15:22 PM »
A new round of Snyder triggering the Marvel brigade  :popcorn

I don't understand the immense hate people have for him. I'm not a huge fan of his movies (I like the action though) but it's really nothing to get worked up about

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36538 on: February 03, 2021, 06:25:32 PM »
User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissive Commentary Around Identity and Minority Issues

I don't like any label. I don't like being labelled an atheist, even though the concept of gods is purely ridiculous. I don't adhere to political parties or social norms. I have a name and I'm an individual.
Labels may signify a part of who we are, but they are not the makeup of our character or what makes us individuals. Belonging to groups separates us from the species that we are. Labels minimize our character into parts and tags. It separates us.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #36539 on: February 03, 2021, 06:26:48 PM »
Because Superman killed Zod and he gave us a Batman who killed. I knew watching Batman vs Superman that the scenes of Batman killing the bad guys would send places like Era into a frenzy  :lol