Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[BIONIC]

I’d pay good money to see nepnep doing some flippy capoeira shit while conceal carrying in her fursuit 

[Nintex]

 :nepenthe <- very tired innocent concealed carrier visiting Disney World

Bad Cop male gaze ->

  <- Alt Right Snyder fan disrepecting personal space

Uneducated leftist bystander looking for cover ->

  <- Me reading the news report

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Era mods:

"If Sony won't sell old Playstation games any more you might as well pirate them"

(Image removed from quote.)

"Hey, Black Americans, you should buy guns for the explicit purpose of killing police officers"
(Image removed from quote.)

They know where the money comes from.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/state-department-says-u-s-considering-a-joint-boycott-with-allies-of-the-2022-winter-olympics-in-beijing.405879/#post-62311311

 

[SmokyDave]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-americans-flock-to-gun-stores-and-clubs-i-needed-to-protect-myself-gun-ownership-among-black-americans-is-up-58-2.405111/page-10#post-62323077

“When I see white people out there killing/attacking/lynching my people, be they black, asian, hispanic, indigenous, or any other variant,”

This person thinks clearly and can be trusted with a firearm.

[Snoopycat_]

I'd like to see Nep Nep pull a gun on a cop

[Don Rumata]

i thought it was common knowledge that incest babies have a very high chance of having some form of defect

Son is adopted.
There's no stopping that train now.
 

[Potato]

Someone should start a poll.

Have you personally been involved in a violent home invasion where the use of lethal force would have been justified?

• No
• Never
• I know someone who knows someone who has.
• I read about it on Resetera.com
• What Neopetenthe said.

[Rman]

still won't get gun and i'm a minority as well. 

logistically they make no sense.  do we even have the amount of actual defused home invasions from gun ownership?

many of the posts their sound like revenge fantasies.  i do remember reading that gun ownership and suicide are huge risk factors.

[remy]

Someone should start a poll.

Have you personally been involved in a violent home invasion where the use of lethal force would have been justified?

• No
• Never
• I know someone who knows someone who has.
• I read about it on Resetera.com
• What Neopetenthe said.

6. i watched death wish (1974)

[FUME5]

Sorry to hear that OP.

I realized I had to stop being friends with someone online because I thought I might be grooming. I don’t think I said anything creepy and we just talked about our interests but I realized the age difference and I had to stop because I was starting to get too emotionally invested. Glad it was just online but still regret potentially putting myself and them in that position.

 

Narrator: they were grooming.

[nobody of note]

The gun ownership thread catching a lock led to a small group protest in the Community thread which actually got a mod response:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/constructive-community-discussion.270630/post-62342127

Just chiming in that I really enjoyed the thought of and prospect of a liberal gun ownership OT and the thread was locked due to the "political discussion" occurring elsewhere.

With the rise in minority gun ownership and the lack of safe spaces on the internet to be both liberal and gun owning, it was a fantastic idea and warrants re-opening.

To add to Night's post, this is the thread in question: Leftist American Firearm Ownership |OT| Defending Equality - Safely and Responsibly

The reason given by @ColdSun



The thread was presented as both a resource, which is lacking on any other part of the site, a place of discussion for those looking to or were already owners of firearms to share advice on ownership, and the political situation surrounding ownership in the US. While the lattermost point does get covered often in other threads, those threads are often not the place to be seeking or soliciting those others.

The matter of narrow seems odd, given there are OTs on singular pieces of media, influencer platforms, and other subjects that are much narrower in their focus and community size than the various aspects of firearms in both general ownership (hunting, recreation, safety, lineage, sports, training, clubs) and political elements (regulations, legislation, manufacturer donations, lobbying, platforms across the spectrum). The only 'narrow' element is that the thread title specified 'liberal/leftist' qualifier, but last I checked this was supposedly a largely liberal/leftist platform of a forum to where that is not an issue.

There's also been multiple attempts by the minority/at-risk communities here seeking these advice and discussions that just end up getting diluted in a mess of personal moral stances or foreign opinions coming from entirely separate situations that don't help. It would be nice to actually help these communities for once instead of leaving them to flounder in the mess of the overall forum and/or to turn to right-wing resources and communities where they could be further at risk.

I do not know if @Loxley had been contacted prior to the lock, if it was a full discussion among various members of the admin and moderation team, or was an executive decision. I also don't know if anti-ownership bias was involved, to where discussion of ownership and to get the proper resources to as-safely-as-possible have that responsibility was discounted entirely on the belief that said responsibility shouldn't exist at all on a public level. Which, to make clear, I empathize with and wish that ownership wasn't as accessible as it is. But I do think the decision was short-sided and done through the vision of certain lenses, given how certain threads continue to pop up, the reality minorities in the US have dealt with and continue to do so, and the responses both here and in the recent thread highlighting through data one of the responses to that reality.

If a mod or admin needs to help curate the OT, I'm sure whoever the OP would be would welcome the collaboration to ensure the thread kicks off healthy and what is and isn't permitted (ex. no talk of most modifications, restricting discussion on ARs, automatics etc in a shop sense).

And no, I'm not volunteering as I'm not comfortable with the subject of ownership despite wanting those who do seek that avenue to have the resources and community on hand to make such a choice as safe as possible. Even if you're anti-private ownership, it should be easily agreed that those who aren't should be guided to make the best decisions they can within that for theirs and others safety. Plus it helps to educate on legislation and regulations so those elements are understood and discussion can be better tackled than the maelstrom surrounding tragedies.

Thanks for bearing with long case given.

I addressed this in another thread where the question was asked, but basically the problem is that the thread was created in direct response to gun law debates on the forum. The OP stated as much. Those debates already tend to get super heated without each side getting their own home base to stew in, and it’s a good bet that this would lead to someone making an OT about gun violence and gun ban activism that we wouldn’t be able to fairly disallow. It's totally fine to make these arguments; that's how discussions happen. But an OT isn’t necessary for that.

That concern alone was reason enough to lock the thread.

Separately there were other concerns about how comfortable we are hosting discussion about assault weapons and pictures of gun collections that could come off as fetishizing. We acknowledge that there are good arguments for having some kind of OT for responsible gun ownership, but on the whole we don’t think they outweigh the concerns.

I'm curious to see if they stick with it; this absolutely seems like the right move for the forum but that usually doesn't mean shit in the face of what specific voices want. Maybe just not the right people pulling for the thread.

[BIONIC]

I'd like to see Nep Nep pull a gun on a cop

:nepenthe

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[jorma]

I'm ABSOLUTELY against owning guns, but i'm a LEFTIST gun owner, which is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from all the other idiots who shouldn't be owning guns! 

[Don Rumata]

I'm ABSOLUTELY against owning guns, but i'm a LEFTIST gun owner, which is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from all the other idiots who shouldn't be owning guns! 

It's like those people that say "I'm against the death penalty, except for certain cases!"... so like everybody else in favor of the death penalty? 

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-americans-flock-to-gun-stores-and-clubs-i-needed-to-protect-myself-gun-ownership-among-black-americans-is-up-58-2.405111/page-10#post-62351385

More black people will die because more black people buy guns. More children will accidently shoot themselves, more people will kill themselves thanks to easy access to a gun, more encounters will lead to death and injury because the dead/injured person decided to have a gun on him.

I am not disputing the rationality of the feeling of needing a gun. I am disputing - with evidence, not anecdotes - that buying a gun, owning a gun, carrying a gun actually makes you safer. Not that the need to feel save is unreasonable. This is what's so incredibly frustrating about this.

It is an absoluty undisputable fact that a gun will make you and your loved ones less safe. But stating this mere fact leads to reactions of utter confusion as if you just denied every black american their agency or the fact that they live in a deeply racist society. Which is not what is happening. All of these things are true. And yet, buying a gun will more likely hurt and kill you or your husband or your wife or your children or a completely uninvolved third part than it will ever help you. And everyone buying a gun should realize that. And that they are DIRECTLY buying into the NRA propaganda of needing a gun to protect yourself against the evils of the world, only that the evils of the world are different.

Hope this racist sack of shit gets banned 

[Pissy F Benny]

I agree with the black people of ree, guns are rad and I wish we were permitted to carry them over here

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Firing guns is hella fun, and I've done target shooting with bolt action .22s, clay pigeon shooting with shotguns, and range shooting with berettas, glocks and a fucking desert eagle, but none of that makes me feel bad I can't walk through a town centre tooled up in full tactical armour and not have a fucking SWAT team called in

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I'm ABSOLUTELY against owning guns, but i'm a LEFTIST gun owner, which is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from all the other idiots who shouldn't be owning guns! 

the only thing that can stop a white racist is a black racist

[Pissy F Benny]

just imagine how much of a big man you feel going for your weekly shop while strapped

[Snoopycat_]

And yet, buying a gun will more likely hurt and kill you or your husband or your wife or your children or a completely uninvolved third part than it will ever help you.

Do they think guns are pitbulls? 

[Nintex]

The solution is Smart Guns(TM)

[Potato]

The most amazing thing about that thread and the reaction of the mods and the BCT people is that at its heart is the dichotomy of individualism vs collective good.

On one hand, individualism says that just because it is statistically more dangerous for people to go and buy guns, that doesn't mean that I will be one of those statistics.

On the other hand, if you care about the collective good, then anything that increases the number of guns in society is bad and should be avoided.

Amazing that a bunch of self-professed communists and socialists are choosing the individualism option over the collective one. It's almost like they don't understand their own philosophy or something...

[BIONIC]

just imagine how much of a big man you feel while getting strapped

Fixed 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

And yet, buying a gun will more likely hurt and kill you or your husband or your wife or your children or a completely uninvolved third part than it will ever help you.

Do they think guns are pitbulls?

 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Amazing that a bunch of self-professed communists and socialists are choosing the individualism option over the collective one. It's almost like they don't understand their own philosophy or something...

some animals are more equal than others

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

One of the top searches apparently was "Why is Resetera bad?" and it sends you to a weird website about "trash websites".
My curiosity almost made me click, bit I know better.

I mean, thank god, right?

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-now-has-a-wikipedia-article.405627/post-62313612

i honestly cannot think of one ERA meme aside from the recent videotape in the wall thread 

Nepenthe killing white babies

Nepenthe's car loan

Nepenthe dressing up as a furry

Nepenthe getting mad at white people for handing her change wrong at her job


There are plenty!

[Cauliflower Of Love]

, but because the rightards

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

Paints way too positive picture. Most game industry people avoid this turdhole like the plague.

Nailed it

The kree also takes a shot:

Nah, they'll leave it alone now that most of the women and minorities are gone. Not much reason to keep attacking this forum anymore.

[HaughtyFrank]

and what major devs even post here regularly? GAF had that rep but it was certainly waning in the years prior to everyone coming here, and the handful of devs who do or did post here were either banned, left because they didn't want to deal with the mess, or work on mobile games.

Damn, that mobile games jab

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.amazon.com/Nepenthe-Hana-Ohira/dp/B0813XH5VQ

[joeboy101]

and what major devs even post here regularly? GAF had that rep but it was certainly waning in the years prior to everyone coming here, and the handful of devs who do or did post here were either banned, left because they didn't want to deal with the mess, or work on mobile games.

Damn, that mobile games jab

Hey I liked Stufte!

[joeboy101]

https://www.amazon.com/Nepenthe-Hana-Ohira/dp/B0813XH5VQ

(Image removed from quote.)

That plot synopsis is about as incomprehensible as she is.

[Straight Edge]

Did he stop posting?

[joeboy101]

I'll just link to the post because I love you all and won't post all their pointless graphs, so...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-americans-flock-to-gun-stores-and-clubs-i-needed-to-protect-myself-gun-ownership-among-black-americans-is-up-58-2.405111/post-62353983

I don't give a fresh goddamn about your statistics unless they control for race and political alignment

*Posts a bunch of demographic polls and surveys that really don't say much aside from the obvious*

So I don't want to see generic statistics on guns causing more injuries when 5+ assault rifle carrying white republicans that revolve their lives around gun ownership and are just now coming around on mental health being a thing are being lumped in with black democrats picking up a handgun just to feel that if the worst comes to worst they wont be a sitting duck

Is this braniac suggesting that blacks are less likely to use a gun for violence than whites? Or less likely to be a target for gun violence than whites?

Swear to God, NRA reps must be reading that thread like

 

[BikeJesus]

Wiki article needs to have a section about banned developers including racist piece of shit Frank O'Connor from 343 Industries.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I'll just link to the post because I love you all and won't post all their pointless graphs, so...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-americans-flock-to-gun-stores-and-clubs-i-needed-to-protect-myself-gun-ownership-among-black-americans-is-up-58-2.405111/post-62353983

I don't give a fresh goddamn about your statistics unless they control for race and political alignment

What he thinks those statistics show: Black people get killed by white people with guns more. Gun ownership would be a deteerent.
What those statistics actually show: White people kill themselves with guns, black people kill each other. Gun ownership doesn't do shit in preventing that.

[Nintex]

lmao they answered a post with statistics that owning a gun does not make you safer with an image of a lynching.

They are completely out of their goddamn minds. Stock up on arms lunatics and see where that gets you the next time you run into a minor inconvenience
 

[Snoopycat_]

Who knew that one day Nep and co would start sounding like members of a far right militia

[HaughtyFrank]

Who knew that one day Nep and co would start sounding like members of a far right militia

It might be time to vote republican, you know with those dems coming for their guns and all

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

What are you doing to help black people feel safer so that they relinquish their guns and thus make their households safer?

If this question was in the form of a poll the leading answer would be "Voting" by a country mile.

Yes, that's how you enact change in a democracy.

What's your solution? Driving a vehicle into capitol hill barricades then killing some cops?

[Propagandhim]

 

[ShutUp]

Tip the FBI off to that thread. Some absolute lunacy being spewed and the kind of shit people looking to gun others down would start saying.

[Straight Edge]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-i-downloaded-grindr-a-few-days-ago.347488/

Guys are into all these sexual things, while I actually like the idea of just jerking off with another guy in the same room. Why does everything have to involve penetration? I’m a top, but we don’t always have anal sex, if at all. But whatever.

[Nintex]

I was going to respond to more posts, but not even going to waste my time.

This is the last time and the last thread I will entertain gaslighting anti-black nonsense. Here on out I will discuss matters concerning black folk with black people only. For the mental health of other black posters here, I'd recommend you do the same.

Because nothing improves your mental health more than discussing arming yourself against paranoid fantasies in an echo chamber

[BIONIC]

I need some Nintex fan fiction of a BCT militia meeting in my life 

[SmokyDave]

SilentRob is calmly and patiently dismantling their manic tantrum. They should probably perm him.

[HaughtyFrank]

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Royalan with the "actually I wasn't talking about you"

I wasn't just talking to you with that post. There have been multiple people in this thread boiling down Black people's motivations for arming themselves to feels (which, to be clear, is fair motivation enough. But when so many people in this thread have gone out of their way to give the history, boiling it down to that is more than a little reductive). If I were talking to you, I would have quoted you.

But since you're addressing me now, how about answering the question that I asked when I actually did quote you?

What a load of crap 

And talk about a leading question:

Should Black people have ever owned guns?

(We are now on page 10)

And when he doesn't get the desired response

I don't think any private person should be allowed to own a gun, no. I also don't think cops should have access to guns (see Ireland, Norway etc.)

That's not an answer to the question I asked you. It was a very simple question.

 

[Nintex]

I need some Nintex fan fiction of a BCT militia meeting in my life 

"I'm so tired, all those sexists in the Resident Evil thread SMH"
"Me too I've been pounding that report button like I would Adam Driver"
"OOMF OOMF!!!"
"I'm going to shoot myself fuck this world"
"I would tell you not to but I'm also very tired of this bullshit"
"I'm going to shoot myself and my neighbor. He just keeps playing his rap music very loud and I can't think and he's doing it on purpose. Fuck whites"
"Don't do it, you have so much to live for, I hear Black Panther 2 is coming out soon"
"Wow, anything else you want to teach us, White boy?"
"Can't believe he was hiding among us all this time smh"
"Guess we're not even safe from racist bullshit in our own community"
"I just shot my neighbor I think he's dead or angry I dunno I just ran I'm crying"
"Stay strong, whatever you do don't talk to the cops and don't drop your gun it was his fault, you are not in the wrong"
"Yeah, don't allow them to gaslight you you did fine"
"Ok I'm going to play on my Switch to calm my nerves"
"Good job brother"
"I HEAR SIRENS I'M FREAKING OUT WTF DO I DO"
"Make a thread"
"Yeah some smart folk on Era who can help you with this"
"Most murders aren't solved anyway"
"Yeah, except when white people die than suddenly the police runs"
"They better run when I go after 'em lol"
"He was Asian, the dude I shot I think"
"Well what did they ever do for us? As far as I'm cocerned they picked their side long ago"
"Sirens are such a trigger I can't believe they're still allowed"
"ALL COPS ARE BAD!!! And their white ass Sirens too!"
"Ok false alarm guys the safety was still on apparently. I have to report myself to the cops my mom says she's very angry that I pointed a gun at my neighbor"
"FUCK YOUR MOM"
"Leave the fucking house man, she sounds like a total Nazi"
"Take that gun and run!"

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-now-has-a-wikipedia-article.405627/post-62313612

i honestly cannot think of one ERA meme aside from the recent videotape in the wall thread 

Nepenthe killing white babies

Nepenthe's car loan

Nepenthe dressing up as a furry

Nepenthe getting mad at white people for handing her change wrong at her job


There are plenty!

That Wiki is so ego-cringe.   

ResetEra is an independent internet forum dedicated to the discussion of video games and contemporary culture. Founded in late 2017, ResetEra quickly gained prominence for being the source of a wide range of gaming rumors and leaks,[1][2][3] and members of the video game industry are known to also participate in discussions on the website.[4]

.....

On October 21, 2017, following allegations of sexual harassment by the video game forum NeoGAF's owner Tyler Malka, a majority of the moderation staff resigned, and the site went offline soon after.[5][6] During its shutdown, members of the forum flocked to the chat platform Discord in order to continue their discussions, and a group of former NeoGAF members took it upon themselves to create a new forum.[7]

Three days later on October 24, 2017, ResetEra was launched, with the initial wave of members composed of former NeoGAF users.[8] To deter internet trolls from flooding the forum, the ResetEra staff worked with the various communities to filter their members to ensure that unknown users were not part of the initial wave.

I like that they mention industry people as members who have notably quit posting there. 

In March 2021 after it was reported that the lead designer of Hogwarts Legacy published commentary that many found to be bigoted, the staff of ResetEra banned any threads about the upcoming video game

Did Slayven write that?

[BIONIC]

I need some Nintex fan fiction of a BCT militia meeting in my life 

"I'm so tired, all those sexists in the Resident Evil thread SMH"
"Me too I've been pounding that report button like I would Adam Driver"
"OOMF OOMF!!!"
"I'm going to shoot myself fuck this world"
"I would tell you not to but I'm also very tired of this bullshit"
"I'm going to shoot myself and my neighbor. He just keeps playing his rap music very loud and I can't think and he's doing it on purpose. Fuck whites"
"Don't do it, you have so much to live for, I hear Black Panther 2 is coming out soon"
"Wow, anything else you want to teach us, White boy?"
"Can't believe he was hiding among us all this time smh"
"Guess we're not even safe from racist bullshit in our own community"
"I just shot my neighbor I think he's dead or angry I dunno I just ran I'm crying"
"Stay strong, whatever you do don't talk to the cops and don't drop your gun it was his fault, you are not in the wrong"
"Yeah, don't allow them to gaslight you you did fine"
"Ok I'm going to play on my Switch to calm my nerves"
"Good job brother"
"I HEAR SIRENS I'M FREAKING OUT WTF DO I DO"
"Make a thread"
"Yeah some smart folk on Era who can help you with this"
"Most murders aren't solved anyway"
"Yeah, except when white people die than suddenly the police runs"
"They better run when I go after 'em lol"
"He was Asian, the dude I shot I think"
"Well what did they ever do for us? As far as I'm cocerned they picked their side long ago"
"Sirens are such a trigger I can't believe they're still allowed"
"ALL COPS ARE BAD!!! And their white ass Sirens too!"
"Ok false alarm guys the safety was still on apparently. I have to report myself to the cops my mom says she's very angry that I pointed a gun at my neighbor"
"FUCK YOUR MOM"
"Leave the fucking house man, she sounds like a total Nazi"
"Take that gun and run!"

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/resetera-now-has-a-wikipedia-article.405627/page-2#post-62306064

User Banned (1 Week): Hostility Towards the Community

Paints way too positive picture. Most game industry people avoid this turdhole like the plague.

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-pok%C3%A9mon-would-you-eat.405294/page-2#post-62249937

User Warned: Boy’s Club Rhetoric

Gardevoir’s ass

[Crumb]

I need some Nintex fan fiction of a BCT militia meeting in my life 

"I'm so tired, all those sexists in the Resident Evil thread SMH"
"Me too I've been pounding that report button like I would Adam Driver"
"OOMF OOMF!!!"
"I'm going to shoot myself fuck this world"
"I would tell you not to but I'm also very tired of this bullshit"
"I'm going to shoot myself and my neighbor. He just keeps playing his rap music very loud and I can't think and he's doing it on purpose. Fuck whites"
"Don't do it, you have so much to live for, I hear Black Panther 2 is coming out soon"
"Wow, anything else you want to teach us, White boy?"
"Can't believe he was hiding among us all this time smh"
"Guess we're not even safe from racist bullshit in our own community"
"I just shot my neighbor I think he's dead or angry I dunno I just ran I'm crying"
"Stay strong, whatever you do don't talk to the cops and don't drop your gun it was his fault, you are not in the wrong"
"Yeah, don't allow them to gaslight you you did fine"
"Ok I'm going to play on my Switch to calm my nerves"
"Good job brother"
"I HEAR SIRENS I'M FREAKING OUT WTF DO I DO"
"Make a thread"
"Yeah some smart folk on Era who can help you with this"
"Most murders aren't solved anyway"
"Yeah, except when white people die than suddenly the police runs"
"They better run when I go after 'em lol"
"He was Asian, the dude I shot I think"
"Well what did they ever do for us? As far as I'm cocerned they picked their side long ago"
"Sirens are such a trigger I can't believe they're still allowed"
"ALL COPS ARE BAD!!! And their white ass Sirens too!"
"Ok false alarm guys the safety was still on apparently. I have to report myself to the cops my mom says she's very angry that I pointed a gun at my neighbor"
"FUCK YOUR MOM"
"Leave the fucking house man, she sounds like a total Nazi"
"Take that gun and run!"

[Potato]

(Image removed from quote.)
 

This right here is some amazing logic.

"What are YOU doing to stop people like ME from making a decision which will put ME and MY FAMILY in MORE danger?"

[Potato]

SilentRob is calmly and patiently dismantling their manic tantrum. They should probably perm him.

Neopetenthe just waiting for an innocuous post in another thread to hand out a "duration pending" ban.

[BrokenVerses]

10 pages for the blacks buying gun thread.

2 pages for the Asians buying gun thread.

Pretending that this isn't fucked up is beyond absurd at this point. You all have a heavy black bias on this site. Its some of the most condescending shit I've seen on the site.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-americans-flock-to-gun-stores-and-clubs-i-needed-to-protect-myself-gun-ownership-among-black-americans-is-up-58-2.405111/post-62387817

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I can't tell what commediu is upset about.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I can't tell what commediu is upset about.

"asian era" didn't drop a red hot shit take like "black people should buy more guns to kill cops" on their equivalent page 1 topic then run to discord for backup to keep the argument going

[Potato]

Bragg gonna get got

You're just using the same tired "the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" nonsense rednecks have been claiming for years. In this thread alone I've seen variations of all of their "guns don't kill people, people do," "don't want to die on my knees," etc, greatest hit excuses.

We have data. Its been shared. It doesn't matter what's motivating people to get guns. We know [GROUP X] owning more guns = more of [GROUP X] dying from guns. The overwhelming majority of the time (like 90%+) people kill their own race. White people kill white people. Black people kill Black people, etc. More minorities owning guns is sadly only going to result in more minorities dying from guns.

Can you seriously argue that guns have been good for the Black community (or any community for that matter)?

"Gun violence has for the longest time been a public health crisis in the Black community."

i wish i had the luxury of being able to tut-tut people from halfway across the globe and throw statistics at them to try and get them to stop buying guns because of the very real threat to their lives on a daily basis

I wish people would stop using feelings to rationalize their anti-science behavior.

Should Black people have ever owned guns?

I'd like someone to seriously answer that.

Broadly speaking, no. I don't think we should have ever let citizens own guns, at least in the near carte blanche way we have.

Can you answer if guns been good for Black people?

Can't believe on Page 11 we get this wrong headed of a Question. Did you not read this thread at all, cause you wouldn't ask this otherwise.

In spite of all the evidence to the contrary:

Yes.