Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[Potato]

aren't black on black homicides already biggest driver of gun deaths in the US? i know ree is an exclusively emotionally driven place but even by their standards, responding to social despondancy by calls to arm a community en masse with the weapons they've suffered most from the prevelance of seems particually mental.

Didn't you watch the Oscar award winning film Black Panther?

Killmonger was right. Wakanda Forever!!

[Joe Molotov]

Seriously

Why the fuck are y’all in here arguing with someone NOT even from the US who ain’t even black on this subject......

Let alone who calls us “anti-intellectual” and beats their chest about not being an ally

Lol why waste your fucking time

NOT EVEN FROM THE US
 

What subjects is he black on?

[Tektonic]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/thank-you-resetera-tech-team.405117/post-62239713
oh you meme.gif/jpg

[Lonewulfeus]

Only thing I could find was speculation in the Sony thread that he self-requested it after getting threadbanned from said thread.

Yea, that was all a Google search pulled up for me as well.  I doubt it’s self requested because it would say that instead of just banned.  He could have gotten the ban over PM or in a hidden thread though.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Its planetsmasher, so they probably raged themselves into a full ban via pm about their threadban

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/woman-finds-out-on-sons-wedding-day-that-the-bride-is-actually-her-long-lost-daughter.405669/#post-62289615

Other than law, cultural and/or religious reasons, are there actual issues in biological siblings marriage? Like dangerous in some way or anything?

I only know that it's wrong for reasons above, but I never really thought about it.

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Onii-san 

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[Pissy F Benny]

i thought it was common knowledge that incest babies have a very high chance of having some form of defect

[Tuckers Law]

Science is a liar sometimes.  I learned that when researching performance of trans athletes vs cis athletes.

[Snoopycat_]

If there's a reason for owning a gun, protection from home invasion is probably the best one -

You tell that to my son and wife who were held at gun point during a home invasion. You can also tell that to my son's therapist for 2 years as a result of that incident. If you don't want a gun, then that's fine. But you don't tell me or my family that I don't have the right to protect myself and my family. My hope is that I never have to use it, but it is there in case I do.

I love the way some in this forum are so judgmental of others while living their, what has to be, perfect lives. Never committing a single sin. That has to be the reason why some stand so high on their pulpit and point down.

Ree's experts on not being robbed, murdered or raped disagree though

Why you need to take it personally?

Im saying that research and statistic don't show that having a gun make you safer.

This is NRA nonsense. It really is.There mere fact that you now have a gun in your house increases the likelihood that you or one of the people you want to protect will die. This is a statistical fact. It's a lot more likely a gun in your house would have led to an escalation and death of a family member or that it will now lead to an accidental death with the firearm.

I'm not an expert but it seems to me that having a big fuck off gun is better than having a big book of statistics when a group of animals break into your house

[Propagandhim]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/woman-finds-out-on-sons-wedding-day-that-the-bride-is-actually-her-long-lost-daughter.405669/#post-62289615

Other than law, cultural and/or religious reasons, are there actual issues in biological siblings marriage? Like dangerous in some way or anything?

I only know that it's wrong for reasons above, but I never really thought about it.

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Onii-san 

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Yeah, there are biological reasons.  It makes people vomit.  And vomiting burns the esophagus, creating rising healthcare costs which disproportionately affect POC communities.  Racist fuck.  Resetera is a special kind of hell.

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/woman-finds-out-on-sons-wedding-day-that-the-bride-is-actually-her-long-lost-daughter.405669/#post-62289615

Other than law, cultural and/or religious reasons, are there actual issues in biological siblings marriage? Like dangerous in some way or anything?

I only know that it's wrong for reasons above, but I never really thought about it.

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Onii-san 

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I actually read the article 

Mom lost her daughter, adopted a son.
Adopted son meets long lost daughter.

These type of miracles only happen in China and Pornhub.

[joeboy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-religious-people-almost-always-shown-as-violence-loving-extremists-or-as-dumb-backwards-people.405564/

This thread can ONLY go well.

[joeboy101]

Religions are responsible for a lot of bad stuff in this world especially the US where a lot of games come from. Creators like to reflect that in their art.

 

That doesn’t mean all religious people are violent lunatics, it means that most violent lunatics turn out to be religious.

 

This stuff isn't just dreamt up in a vacuum. Maybe religions are depicted as violent because they have a history of violence.

 

#Notallreligions
Let's not downplay the shit that religion causes thanks

 

[joeboy101]

Religious persecution is again religiously motivated.
Your post was total whataboutism. Religion doing some good for the world doesn't outweigh the massive issues it has caused and continues to cause. Maybe you aren't on the receiving end of religious persecution, it isn't fun.

Yeah sure Jan.
It's the religion's fault if people are getting bombed or attacked because of their religion.

As for your last sentence: Go fuck yourself. You must be one of those people pulling off women headscarf or putting pork in halal meat shelves. SIncerely, GhostTrick.

 

[joeboy101]

As for your last sentence: Go fuck yourself. You must be one of those people pulling off women headscarf or putting pork in halal meat shelves. SIncerely, GhostTrick.

I guess gay people don’t exist anymore.

 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I'm not an expert but it seems to me that having a big fuck off gun is better than having a big book of statistics when a group of animals break into your house

You just need to game theory it out though.

If you as a criminal know that the likelihood that the owners of a house you intend to burgle own a gun is significantly above 0%, how likely is it that you yourself get a gun before doing the job?
Also factor in any laws that, oh, explictly state home owners can 'stand their ground' and not have any legal repercussions for executing a burglar.
Now factor in bringing a weapon with you automatically raises the length of any possible conviction.
Now factor in the associated risks of sneaking in and maybe / maybe not alerting a homeowner who maybe / maybe not has a gun and maybe / maybe not can just kill you and you maybe / maybe not even realise you'd woken them up or that the house was occupied and you didn't realise.
Now compare that to just straight up pulling a home invasion and being in full control of the situation from the get go.
Ta-dah, you now have Home Invasion rates magically 3-4x higher than equivalent first world countries.

Same reason as when you make kidnapping a capital crime, you suddenly see the life expectancy of a hostage drop to slightly above zero, as risk / reward just favours killing the biggest threat to getting away with it.

[HaughtyFrank]

Damn, I'd like to see the same amount of effort ITT when it comes to dissuading white people from buying guns.

Half of these people in here won't even talk to their racist family during the holidays.

Let's just throw it out there. The issue here is people are afraid of black people getting guns because black people with guns are terrifying. The quotation of statistics is an ad hoc justification for that reaction.

Like, only five or so non-black people, if that, have said that the way to properly disarm is to address the reasons for why black people feel the need to arm up, which is white supremacy.

But we circle back around to my first observation.

This thread is a joke.

Wow, nepenthe claiming that people in that thread only have issues with gun buying because it's black people buying guns.

I can partially understand this whole Black Panther arm yourself concept but to brand anyone who takes issue with it as racist is such classic era.

There are idiots in that thread promoting the fucking NRA and Nepenthe brushes it off

If this thread is a joke then you can lock it since you are an admin. We've got people in here literally promoting the "training arm" of the NRA which is known racist institution instead of an ethical one for this type of subject.

It's interesting that that's the thing in here that offended you most. You also don't know how my job works.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Half of these people in here won't even talk to their racist family during the holidays.

Isn't the motto for era that you shouldn't even talk to racists lest you catch it?

[BIONIC]

You also don't know how my job works.

Oh, you’re getting paid for it now? 

[Joe Molotov]

You also don't know how my job works.

Oh, you’re getting paid for it now? 

Getting paid in exposure.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wash-post-after-school-shootings-nra-exec-sought-refuge-on-108-foot-yacht-‘thank-god-i’m-safe’.405825/

It’s okay, King. Rees will protect you now.

[joeboy101]

Damn, I'd like to see the same amount of effort ITT when it comes to dissuading white people from buying guns.

Half of these people in here won't even talk to their racist family during the holidays.

Let's just throw it out there. The issue here is people are afraid of black people getting guns because black people with guns are terrifying. The quotation of statistics is an ad hoc justification for that reaction.

Like, only five or so non-black people, if that, have said that the way to properly disarm is to address the reasons for why black people feel the need to arm up, which is white supremacy.

But we circle back around to my first observation.

This thread is a joke.

Wow, nepenthe claiming that people in that thread only have issues with gun buying because it's black people buying guns.

I can partially understand this whole Black Panther arm yourself concept but to brand anyone who takes issue with it as racist is such classic era.

There are idiots in that thread promoting the fucking NRA and Nepenthe brushes it off

If this thread is a joke then you can lock it since you are an admin. We've got people in here literally promoting the "training arm" of the NRA which is known racist institution instead of an ethical one for this type of subject.

It's interesting that that's the thing in here that offended you most. You also don't know how my job works.

Lords her position and inside knowledge over people on a regular basis. Acts victimized by her position and knowledge whenever called out for her shitty behavior.

 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Era mods:

"If Sony won't sell old Playstation games any more you might as well pirate them"



"Hey, Black Americans, you should buy guns for the explicit purpose of killing police officers"

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

VIDEOGAME FORUM

[Nintex]

You may not be white, but that doesn't automatically mean you're black, and I've certainly noticed an uptick in non-black minorities thinking not being white gives them the high ground to tell black people what for.

Because this topic (and my post) is about black people responding to white supremacy by arming up, thus the obvious solution to increasing gun ownership rates is to decrease white supremacy.

So let's talk about white supremacy, or do you still think this "isn't applicable?"

The only allowed position is now officially: "Everyone (except whites) should own more guns and if you are against more people owning guns you are a racist"

If you are against guns, you should be against guns ALWAYS. Otherwise is a double standard.

This thread has been a long fight between rationality and personal fears.

jesus christ. Is there a sign or something on the door?

And this person caught a ban

[HaughtyFrank]

How absurd is that thread that she seriously made the point of "How telling that you're most offended by a racist branch of the NRA being promoted." It's like admonishing a centrist white guy while ignoring the KKK member that stands next to them

[Nintex]

.... We're talking to these folks as if they don't actually understand the issue and need guidance, and instead fully understand the issue and just want to agitate black folks.

It's 2021. Explain yourself once. Anything after that should be paid for.

Worse - they'll heed and praise Ida's advice as their own but then tell black people, the very audience she was directly talking to, there's a "better/different way".

I have more respect for racists who straight up tell me they want me dead than the people in this thread pussyfooting around their indifference.

Agreed entirely. We truly have no friends.

Gee how did that happen?

[Potato]

Damn, I'd like to see the same amount of effort ITT when it comes to dissuading white people from buying guns.

The issue here is people are afraid of black people getting guns because black people with guns are terrifying.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the statistics show that the most likely demographic in the US to use a gun in a violent crime are young black males (most likely against other young black males)?

The people most terrified of black people arming themselves should be other black people.

[Nintex]

Damn, I'd like to see the same amount of effort ITT when it comes to dissuading white people from buying guns.

The issue here is people are afraid of black people getting guns because black people with guns are terrifying.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the statistics show that the most likely demographic in the US to use a gun in a violent crime are young black males (most likely against other young black males)?

The people most terrified of black people arming themselves should be other black people.

It's not really an apples to apples comparison from what I've gathered over the years.
It seems like most black on black gun violence takes place in certain areas and cities such as Chicago where 'shoot to kill' seems to be the norm between various gangs.

I doubt that every gun 'incident' that isn't fatal in the more rural areas is reported though.
If someone unloads their gun on a house/car/bar that happens to be empty or misses their mark in a drive by, does it show up in the numbers?

In Era's perception 75% of gun violence is some white cracker killing scores of African Americans at random and the other 24% is cops shooting African Americans.
I don't think there are any numbers to back that up and most gun violence is small in scale and common in disputes with neighbours/families/ex's/co-workers/classmates/teachers/dealers/law enforcement etc. in general and not necessarily racially motivated.
The same is true for any other type of violence, guns are just added to the toolbox of people losing their shit at others.

Of course you have lunatics that carry out mass shootings aimed at specific groups be it religious or otherwise but they shoot other people that don't belong to their target group just as easily.
The dude that unloaded a machine gun on a rock concert from a hotel window not so long ago was not targetting any ethnicity in particular either.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

The majority of gun deaths are suicide, so inherently 'same race' killings.
Of violent homicides, the statistics are still the majority of murders being someone you know, and within that grouping it was probably the spouse.

For all of the above examples, guns just being involved increases the lethality.

[Uncle]

finding out about a suicide that technically counts as white on black violence 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I mean, for a forum thats so disturbingly filled with suicidal ideation in the first place, some might say its deeply fucking irresponsible for administrators actively endorsing members to go pick up firearms

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Sorry to hear that OP.

I realized I had to stop being friends with someone online because I thought I might be grooming. I don’t think I said anything creepy and we just talked about our interests but I realized the age difference and I had to stop because I was starting to get too emotionally invested. Glad it was just online but still regret potentially putting myself and them in that position.

 

[Propagandhim]

Damn, I'd like to see the same amount of effort ITT when it comes to dissuading white people from buying guns.

The issue here is people are afraid of black people getting guns because black people with guns are terrifying.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the statistics show that the most likely demographic in the US to use a gun in a violent crime are young black males (most likely against other young black males)?

The people most terrified of black people arming themselves should be other black people.

Yeah, I know FBI statistics is a meme..but echoing benji's point: yearly white on black violent gun crime is literally in the triple digits in a nation of 350+ million, which is about 1/5th that of black on white violent gun crimes -- also a blip on the radar.  Those people getting banned who are universally against the American problem of gun stockpiling by refusing to racialize it and fear-monger...wow.   

I kind of love Nepenthe, though.  Only reason i keep coming back to this thread.  She makes everything so entertaining.

[Nintex]

I'm 25, when I was 16 or 17 I met this guy who is 20 years older than me, it was very random because my PC broke and my mom had his card. We started to talk about many things we liked (games, horror movies, comic books...) and after some time he started to ask about porn, but I didn't thought it was weird because I was a teenager. After that we always talked/texted and hang out, and many many times he would bring up porn, or ask if I ever had sex, send pictures etc., but I was too shy to say anything. Last year I finally asked him to stop and he did, never touched the subject again.

But in a session with my therapist early this year I casually mentioned this guy, and she was horrified and said I should stop talking to him. I was horrified too because I never thought it was that serious. And now I'm in a dilemma, because he's one of the few friends I have (not on internet lol) and he stopped being creepy when I asked.

Or maybe this happened

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Rosebud's Mom: "That was great Chad..."

PC Chad: "Really? you seemed miles away just now babe. What's on your mind?"

Rosebud's Mom: "It's my son... he might be you know 'different'? He doesn't seem interested in girls or people in general if you get my drift but he's always in some chat room"

PC Chad: "You want me to give him 'the talk' or find out if he has a girlfriend or you know, someone else?"

Rosebud's Mom: "Would you?"

PC Chad: "For you and the boy I would do anything"

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[Cauliflower Of Love]

finding out about a suicide that technically counts as white on black violence 

enzom?

[Nintex]

The answer is to read why black people feel the need to buy guns, and then put time and resources into solving those problems, so that the rate of purchase and retention of guns lowers.

Like, I don't understand how white leftists can be so big on education and understanding but get thrown for a loop by some simple shit. It's to the point where I'm not reading people in good faith anymore. Y'all know what y'all are doing.

You really don't know your allies very well do you Nepenthe 

[BIONIC]

I’d pay good money to see nepnep doing some flippy capoeira shit while conceal carrying in her fursuit 

[Nintex]

 :nepenthe <- very tired innocent concealed carrier visiting Disney World

Bad Cop male gaze ->

  <- Alt Right Snyder fan disrepecting personal space

Uneducated leftist bystander looking for cover ->

  <- Me reading the news report

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Era mods:

"If Sony won't sell old Playstation games any more you might as well pirate them"

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"Hey, Black Americans, you should buy guns for the explicit purpose of killing police officers"
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They know where the money comes from.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/state-department-says-u-s-considering-a-joint-boycott-with-allies-of-the-2022-winter-olympics-in-beijing.405879/#post-62311311

 

[SmokyDave]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-americans-flock-to-gun-stores-and-clubs-i-needed-to-protect-myself-gun-ownership-among-black-americans-is-up-58-2.405111/page-10#post-62323077

“When I see white people out there killing/attacking/lynching my people, be they black, asian, hispanic, indigenous, or any other variant,”

This person thinks clearly and can be trusted with a firearm.

[Snoopycat_]

I'd like to see Nep Nep pull a gun on a cop

[Don Rumata]

i thought it was common knowledge that incest babies have a very high chance of having some form of defect

Son is adopted.
There's no stopping that train now.
 

[Potato]

Someone should start a poll.

Have you personally been involved in a violent home invasion where the use of lethal force would have been justified?

• No
• Never
• I know someone who knows someone who has.
• I read about it on Resetera.com
• What Neopetenthe said.

[Rman]

still won't get gun and i'm a minority as well. 

logistically they make no sense.  do we even have the amount of actual defused home invasions from gun ownership?

many of the posts their sound like revenge fantasies.  i do remember reading that gun ownership and suicide are huge risk factors.

[remy]

Someone should start a poll.

Have you personally been involved in a violent home invasion where the use of lethal force would have been justified?

• No
• Never
• I know someone who knows someone who has.
• I read about it on Resetera.com
• What Neopetenthe said.

6. i watched death wish (1974)

[FUME5]

Sorry to hear that OP.

I realized I had to stop being friends with someone online because I thought I might be grooming. I don’t think I said anything creepy and we just talked about our interests but I realized the age difference and I had to stop because I was starting to get too emotionally invested. Glad it was just online but still regret potentially putting myself and them in that position.

 

Narrator: they were grooming.

[nobody of note]

The gun ownership thread catching a lock led to a small group protest in the Community thread which actually got a mod response:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/constructive-community-discussion.270630/post-62342127

Just chiming in that I really enjoyed the thought of and prospect of a liberal gun ownership OT and the thread was locked due to the "political discussion" occurring elsewhere.

With the rise in minority gun ownership and the lack of safe spaces on the internet to be both liberal and gun owning, it was a fantastic idea and warrants re-opening.

To add to Night's post, this is the thread in question: Leftist American Firearm Ownership |OT| Defending Equality - Safely and Responsibly

The reason given by @ColdSun



The thread was presented as both a resource, which is lacking on any other part of the site, a place of discussion for those looking to or were already owners of firearms to share advice on ownership, and the political situation surrounding ownership in the US. While the lattermost point does get covered often in other threads, those threads are often not the place to be seeking or soliciting those others.

The matter of narrow seems odd, given there are OTs on singular pieces of media, influencer platforms, and other subjects that are much narrower in their focus and community size than the various aspects of firearms in both general ownership (hunting, recreation, safety, lineage, sports, training, clubs) and political elements (regulations, legislation, manufacturer donations, lobbying, platforms across the spectrum). The only 'narrow' element is that the thread title specified 'liberal/leftist' qualifier, but last I checked this was supposedly a largely liberal/leftist platform of a forum to where that is not an issue.

There's also been multiple attempts by the minority/at-risk communities here seeking these advice and discussions that just end up getting diluted in a mess of personal moral stances or foreign opinions coming from entirely separate situations that don't help. It would be nice to actually help these communities for once instead of leaving them to flounder in the mess of the overall forum and/or to turn to right-wing resources and communities where they could be further at risk.

I do not know if @Loxley had been contacted prior to the lock, if it was a full discussion among various members of the admin and moderation team, or was an executive decision. I also don't know if anti-ownership bias was involved, to where discussion of ownership and to get the proper resources to as-safely-as-possible have that responsibility was discounted entirely on the belief that said responsibility shouldn't exist at all on a public level. Which, to make clear, I empathize with and wish that ownership wasn't as accessible as it is. But I do think the decision was short-sided and done through the vision of certain lenses, given how certain threads continue to pop up, the reality minorities in the US have dealt with and continue to do so, and the responses both here and in the recent thread highlighting through data one of the responses to that reality.

If a mod or admin needs to help curate the OT, I'm sure whoever the OP would be would welcome the collaboration to ensure the thread kicks off healthy and what is and isn't permitted (ex. no talk of most modifications, restricting discussion on ARs, automatics etc in a shop sense).

And no, I'm not volunteering as I'm not comfortable with the subject of ownership despite wanting those who do seek that avenue to have the resources and community on hand to make such a choice as safe as possible. Even if you're anti-private ownership, it should be easily agreed that those who aren't should be guided to make the best decisions they can within that for theirs and others safety. Plus it helps to educate on legislation and regulations so those elements are understood and discussion can be better tackled than the maelstrom surrounding tragedies.

Thanks for bearing with long case given.

I addressed this in another thread where the question was asked, but basically the problem is that the thread was created in direct response to gun law debates on the forum. The OP stated as much. Those debates already tend to get super heated without each side getting their own home base to stew in, and it’s a good bet that this would lead to someone making an OT about gun violence and gun ban activism that we wouldn’t be able to fairly disallow. It's totally fine to make these arguments; that's how discussions happen. But an OT isn’t necessary for that.

That concern alone was reason enough to lock the thread.

Separately there were other concerns about how comfortable we are hosting discussion about assault weapons and pictures of gun collections that could come off as fetishizing. We acknowledge that there are good arguments for having some kind of OT for responsible gun ownership, but on the whole we don’t think they outweigh the concerns.

I'm curious to see if they stick with it; this absolutely seems like the right move for the forum but that usually doesn't mean shit in the face of what specific voices want. Maybe just not the right people pulling for the thread.

[BIONIC]

I'd like to see Nep Nep pull a gun on a cop

:nepenthe

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[jorma]

I'm ABSOLUTELY against owning guns, but i'm a LEFTIST gun owner, which is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from all the other idiots who shouldn't be owning guns! 

[Don Rumata]

I'm ABSOLUTELY against owning guns, but i'm a LEFTIST gun owner, which is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from all the other idiots who shouldn't be owning guns! 

It's like those people that say "I'm against the death penalty, except for certain cases!"... so like everybody else in favor of the death penalty? 

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-americans-flock-to-gun-stores-and-clubs-i-needed-to-protect-myself-gun-ownership-among-black-americans-is-up-58-2.405111/page-10#post-62351385

More black people will die because more black people buy guns. More children will accidently shoot themselves, more people will kill themselves thanks to easy access to a gun, more encounters will lead to death and injury because the dead/injured person decided to have a gun on him.

I am not disputing the rationality of the feeling of needing a gun. I am disputing - with evidence, not anecdotes - that buying a gun, owning a gun, carrying a gun actually makes you safer. Not that the need to feel save is unreasonable. This is what's so incredibly frustrating about this.

It is an absoluty undisputable fact that a gun will make you and your loved ones less safe. But stating this mere fact leads to reactions of utter confusion as if you just denied every black american their agency or the fact that they live in a deeply racist society. Which is not what is happening. All of these things are true. And yet, buying a gun will more likely hurt and kill you or your husband or your wife or your children or a completely uninvolved third part than it will ever help you. And everyone buying a gun should realize that. And that they are DIRECTLY buying into the NRA propaganda of needing a gun to protect yourself against the evils of the world, only that the evils of the world are different.

Hope this racist sack of shit gets banned 

[Pissy F Benny]

I agree with the black people of ree, guns are rad and I wish we were permitted to carry them over here

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Firing guns is hella fun, and I've done target shooting with bolt action .22s, clay pigeon shooting with shotguns, and range shooting with berettas, glocks and a fucking desert eagle, but none of that makes me feel bad I can't walk through a town centre tooled up in full tactical armour and not have a fucking SWAT team called in

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I'm ABSOLUTELY against owning guns, but i'm a LEFTIST gun owner, which is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from all the other idiots who shouldn't be owning guns! 

the only thing that can stop a white racist is a black racist

[Pissy F Benny]

just imagine how much of a big man you feel going for your weekly shop while strapped

[Snoopycat_]

And yet, buying a gun will more likely hurt and kill you or your husband or your wife or your children or a completely uninvolved third part than it will ever help you.

Do they think guns are pitbulls? 

[Nintex]

The solution is Smart Guns(TM)

[Potato]

The most amazing thing about that thread and the reaction of the mods and the BCT people is that at its heart is the dichotomy of individualism vs collective good.

On one hand, individualism says that just because it is statistically more dangerous for people to go and buy guns, that doesn't mean that I will be one of those statistics.

On the other hand, if you care about the collective good, then anything that increases the number of guns in society is bad and should be avoided.

Amazing that a bunch of self-professed communists and socialists are choosing the individualism option over the collective one. It's almost like they don't understand their own philosophy or something...

[BIONIC]

just imagine how much of a big man you feel while getting strapped

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