USA Politics Thread |OT| Son of a bitch!

[Himu]

[Cauliflower Of Love]

see you next time when you come around, and I will still hope for the best for you.

[HardcoreRetro]

They were arrested because they were asked to leave for refusing to comply to a vaccine mandate request. Good on them!

Please, in concrete terms, tell me a vaccine mandate or vaccine pass to eat in a restaurant is good.

The best course of action would be to lock down everything. If you want to keep the economy running, the vaccine mandate/pass is your second best course of action to keep the spread of the virus as low as possible whilst keeping the economy running. Is it nice? No. But it's better than just letting the virus run rampant.

What's best for public health doesn't neccesarily have to be the thing you deem to be good or nice.

[Himu]

Better than letting the virus run rampant. When we were first getting started to understand the virus? Sure. Now? Fuck that. And fuck the endless safety protocols in the guise of "safety". Almost two years of this. Two. Years.

[HardcoreRetro]

It's as if it's still a dangerous virus.

[Himu]

It's as if it's still a dangerous virus.

Who cares. Learn to live with it. Wear a mask. Get vaccinated if you need to. Most of America already is. Who gives a fuck. Move on. We are going to sit here and be scared till it goes away? Life moves the fuck on virus or no virus. I am not stopping shit especially after nearly two years of this. I've done all I've could. I've done everything right. I no longer care.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

It's disgusting fascism to try and make people eating in an Applebee's show proof of vaccination.

Also, can't we just round up all the homeless and put them in a camp or something?

[Himu]

Ah, so it's not human to have a goddamn limit.

Especially after a summer of beautiful, beautiful freedom. Now they're soft lockdowning and taking everything back!

[Cauliflower Of Love]

It's as if it's still a dangerous virus.

Who cares. Learn to live with it. Wear a mask. Get vaccinated if you need to. Most of America already is. Who gives a fuck. Move on. We are going to sit here and be scared till it goes away? Life moves the fuck on virus or no virus. I am not stopping shit especially after nearly two years of this. I've done all I've could. I've done everything right. I no longer care.

Imagine arguing yourself.

[Himu]

I wear a mask on the train. I wear a mask when I can. I do what I can. It's perfectly reasonable to not give a shit anymore and you cannot guilt trip me for thinking so.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

cough

[Himu]

Benji:

https://reason.com/podcast/2021/12/18/two-libertarians-debate-vaccine-mandates/

[Cauliflower Of Love]

libertarians

lol

thanks for that

[Cauliflower Of Love]

what do you call a libertarian who ran out of money?

walked into the wrong mansion.

[Himu]

https://news.gallup.com/poll/358373/justice-roberts-tops-federal-leaders-americans-approval.aspx

[Potato]

https://mobile.twitter.com/kurtbardella/status/1475911897019002887

[Great Rumbler]

https://twitter.com/dylanlscott/status/1475901344275959818

You'll be shocked by what this data shows!

[Great Rumbler]

It's as if it's still a dangerous virus.

Who cares. Learn to live with it. Wear a mask. Get vaccinated if you need to. Most of America already is. Who gives a fuck. Move on. We are going to sit here and be scared till it goes away? Life moves the fuck on virus or no virus. I am not stopping shit especially after nearly two years of this. I've done all I've could. I've done everything right. I no longer care.

1,200+ people are still dying from covid every day. And that number is trending upward again.

[Himu]

https://mobile.twitter.com/kurtbardella/status/1475911897019002887

I've heard this before

Newsflash. People hate Democrats so much Trump gained 70m voters last election.

[Uncle]

I've heard this before

Newsflash. People hate Democrats so much Trump gained 70m voters last election.

wouldn't you say to some extent the problem with democrats is embracing the fringe extreme? people screaming about going more left, leftist rather than merely liberal, driving away the normies? remember the clashes within the party itself at times when it was pelosi vs. "the squad" arguing about whether to rein it in or go further woke

if some of that is what turned you away from the democrat party, couldn't something similar happen to republicans

[Himu]

I've heard this before

Newsflash. People hate Democrats so much Trump gained 70m voters last election.

wouldn't you say to some extent the problem with democrats is embracing the fringe extreme? people screaming about going more left, leftist rather than merely liberal, driving away the normies? remember the clashes within the party itself at times when it was pelosi vs. "the squad" arguing about whether to rein it in or go further woke

if some of that is what turned you away from the democrat party, couldn't something similar happen to republicans

That's not why I've turned away from D's. I've hated D's since Obama. Hochul isn't progressive she's a center left dino. However it's the progressive policies Ive seen in action which proves to me progressivism/socialism don't work and that was the only reason I've stuck with D's for so long. I've said before that progressive policies are ineffectual and based on emotion and feelings rather than results. With this in mind my options are either don't vote or vote red. Like I said, witnessing the poor policies of liberalism reveals only two options: choosing leftism or choosing conservatism. I've decided to choose conservatism. Also, I learned to believe in myself beyond victomhood here and that the only thing keeping myself from growing is myself. R's on a federal level is just icing. On a state and local level? Hell yes. Republicans fall in line so such a schism is unlikely.

[Himu]

Now that I've gotten sleep I can further expound. Democrats platform and strategy isn't fringe. It's mainstream. Democrats enjoy being allies with Big Tech. Democrats censor thought and speech by extension which I find the biggest threat to humanity as it is now: using technology to control minds and hearts. Democrats have gleefully jumped aboard to population thought control. Democrats get control what is said, allowed, and heard in the public sphere. They aligned themselves with a corporate stranglehold on speech and what is allowed to be said. Democrats bully and coerce. They don't value freedom and will toss away any freedom in the name of security and safety. This isn't fringe. This is the Democratic agenda du jour. Yet they claim to speak for me, people like me, working class people, and more. All talk as they sip from their corporate master's teet. The same people that criticize capitalism are on board with this party if it weren't laughable enough.

Republicans have a lot of issues, Islam phobia being one of my top issues with them. But at this point I consider them the lesser evil. You claim the right could fall under the pressure of too many interests but our interests are aligned. Democrats however have to contend with progressives, center dems, conservative Dems, and now former Republicans under one roof. Tough pill to swallow. Years ago I thought Trump destroyed the Republican party when in fact he's destroyed the Democratic Party. Look at Manchin. Look at Sinema. Look at their ability to not hold an agenda because of the too many pots and pans. And they control all three branches with tiny majority. Meanwhile Republicans stick to the plan. I very much wish I voted for Trump 2020 so, so bad.

Moreover, look at the Democratic "platform", Uncle. It's all pretty much "wouldn't it be nice if...____ happened" A platform of wishful dreams and hope to keep your arm endlessly outstretched.

And lo and behold, Uncle. Like I said. Western governments are running face forward towards Chinese like thought control on its populace and they're using COVID as a way to rapidly push down boundaries that were hard to break before. Which do you think the Democrats would side with in this situation, Uncle? As I said. They're the greater evil. Except it'll be sponsored by Starbucks and have some crappy ass corporate drawing with abstract art.


https://twitter.com/l3onx/status/1475758427213336579

Edit: see, on my way to work I spied a local coffee shop sign here in Chinatown. The sign? "Vaccinated and Caffeinated." Vaccination, which I support and suggest everyone get, is being treated like the latest iPhone. It is a status symbol and shame tactic, not a thing of public health. This is why conservatives curate comparisons of liberals as socialists. Not because they actually are socialists but because they use coercion and shame tactics via the group which leads to no room for the individual, similar to communist regimes.

[Himu]

Let's go Brandon!

[Great Rumbler]

Let's go Brandon!

White people are so cringe.

[Himu]

Let's go Brandon!

White people are so cringe.

*dances*

[Great Rumbler]

Just grade-school tier humor. And not even, like, 8th grade, but 3rd grade.

[Himu]

Just grade-school tier humor. And not even, like, 8th grade, but 3rd grade.

I'm sure wearing a pink hat and screaming FUCK TRUMP for four years is just as mature. Remember the images of Trump in a diaper? The blow up baby balloon in UK? It's almost as it political humor always devolves into elementary school tier joshing. You're not that special and liberals aren't as clever as they think. Same shit, different team. Let's go Brandon!

[bork]

Just say fuck Joe Biden. No one cares, man.

Pretty much. 

[Great Rumbler]

Just grade-school tier humor. And not even, like, 8th grade, but 3rd grade.

I'm sure wearing a pink hat and screaming FUCK TRUMP for four years is just as mature. Remember the images of Trump in a diaper? The blow up baby balloon in UK? It's almost as it political humor always devolves into elementary school tier joshing. You're not that special and liberals aren't as clever as they think. Same shit, different team. Let's go Brandon!

Uh, yeah, I thought that was pretty stupid, too. Especially since any joke about Trump is merely a pale imitation of the living joke that the man himself is.

[Great Rumbler]

Just say fuck Joe Biden. No one cares, man.

Can't monetize that, though. LGB is just another grift and plenty of people are happy to lap it up [and crack open their wallets].

[Himu]

Just say fuck Joe Biden. No one cares, man.

Let's Go Brandon is way better. For one it's clean, which makes it impossible to censor in an age where anything non-left is censored. Two, it makes liberals annoyed which is the ultimate icing. Three, the circumstances that made it arise is Simpsons esque and absolutely hilarious. Four, you can't tell me what to do.

Let's go Brandon.

[Himu]

Literally none of those are true, it just makes you look like some boomer on facebook

All of them are true.

I remember when some twit flipped off Trump and got elected to public office but liberals are reeeeeing about LGB dad and calling it a slur. It makes me want to keep saying it!

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://twitter.com/l3onx/status/1475758427213336579

If you can't use critical thinking to discern between signal and noise, you should honestly get the fuck off Twitter for your own mental health.

The NHS app is a general purpose medical app.
Yes, it contains a record of vaccination.
Yes, it contains a record of what if any prescription medicine someone is on, and when the prescription renews / expires.
Yes, it lets you book / cancel / amend doctors appointments.

Like... What the fuck do you think the purpose of a medical history app is?

The part related to 'social / lifestyle / political' data that is tracked but stored locally for anonymity is about meta data.

If you go to a venue that has an outbreak, should you know there was one - the 'track and trace'  aspect? Yes, that's how you can reduce outbreaks. There's no way of doing that without that record.

Can you infer details about someone based on where they visit if that's not anonymised? Of fucking course you can.
If someone is regularly going to a synagogue you can probably infer their religion.
If someone is regularly going to a gay bar you can probably infer their sexuality.
If someone is regularly going to a pub for hours on end and not a gym, you can probably infer something about their lifestyle.

That's what that disclaimer means and why those details are stored locally - so if there's an outbreak at your swingers club you can know to self isolate, but without telling everyone you got it at the swingers club.

[Himu]

Of course you'll find some way for defend it all in the name of public good. The left truly are despotic. I was right about them the whole time but gave them a chance. I should have stuck with initial instinct.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

It's storing less data about me and my lifestyle than fucking Facebook does, so I'm not sure what the big deal is.

You don't even need the app. You get a paper card when you get vaccinated.
Track and trace is the least fucking intrusive option to long term stop outbreaks. I don't know what's despotic about that.

[Great Rumbler]

Just say fuck Joe Biden. No one cares, man.

Let's Go Brandon is way better. For one it's clean, which makes it impossible to censor in an age where anything non-left is censored. Two, it makes liberals annoyed which is the ultimate icing. Three, the circumstances that made it arise is Simpsons esque and absolutely hilarious. Four, you can't tell me what to do.

Let's go Brandon.

This is just embarassing.

[benjipwns]

Agreed. When faced with the philosophical and moralistic failures of liberalism, outside of deciding to not participate altogether, one is finally faced with only two real choices: leftism or conservatism. Unfortunately due to my experiences with the left I am not sold on leftism as they appear more interested in credo and identity politics and oppression Olympics over results. I'm far more convinced by conservatism. Leftism in comparison is in many ways laughable.

This is a false choice. There are more options than "leftism" and "conservatism" out there. Also there is no need to adhere completely to any single option as described by another.

Don't define yourself solely by what you are against, it's also important to know what it is that you are for.

[Himu]

Agreed. When faced with the philosophical and moralistic failures of liberalism, outside of deciding to not participate altogether, one is finally faced with only two real choices: leftism or conservatism. Unfortunately due to my experiences with the left I am not sold on leftism as they appear more interested in credo and identity politics and oppression Olympics over results. I'm far more convinced by conservatism. Leftism in comparison is in many ways laughable.

This is a false choice. There are more options than "leftism" and "conservatism" out there. Also there is no need to adhere completely to any single option as described by another.

Don't define yourself solely by what you are against, it's also important to know what it is that you are for.

Disagree. Third parties are not viable. In America we have a two party system. If Biden isn't correct, Trump obviously is. Currently Republicans are the only people in the country fighting mandates on a wide level. Sure, there's libertarians but the Libertarian Party is a joke of a joke and not viable. Republican is the only choice besides not voting. It's A, B, C, D, Benji.

Went to Trump Tower today and it was pretty cool and friendly. Bought a certain red hat.

[benjipwns]

Disagree. Third parties are not viable. In America we have a two party system. If Biden isn't correct, Trump obviously is. Currently Republicans are the only people in the country fighting mandates on a wide level. Sure, there's libertarians but the Libertarian Party is a joke of a joke and not viable. Republican is the only choice besides not voting. It's A, B, C, D, Benji.

Went to Trump Tower today and it was pretty cool and friendly. Bought a certain red hat.

You're conflating two things. Electoral strategy and personal ideology are obviously not the same thing. You didn't make a statement about Democrats and Republicans. You argued that "liberalism" had failed and the only choices left were "leftism" and "conservatism" which meant you had to choose conservatism. This continues to be false. Eluding this by pointing to partisan electoral politics is not a response.

In any case, the Republicans are probably not a viable party in New York if they cling to MAGA (or conservatism even in a Reaganite form) and are especially not in New York City outside of Staten Island. The mandates are not going to turn people into single-issue voters even if you have personally become one over them.

[Great Rumbler]

This is what my conservative Republican state is getting up to these days:

https://twitter.com/zittrain/status/1476231700644569091

Every day I'm thankful to not be in school anymore.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/status/1475851939371962368

the kween

[Himu]

Disagree. Third parties are not viable. In America we have a two party system. If Biden isn't correct, Trump obviously is. Currently Republicans are the only people in the country fighting mandates on a wide level. Sure, there's libertarians but the Libertarian Party is a joke of a joke and not viable. Republican is the only choice besides not voting. It's A, B, C, D, Benji.

Went to Trump Tower today and it was pretty cool and friendly. Bought a certain red hat.

You're conflating two things. Electoral strategy and personal ideology are obviously not the same thing. You didn't make a statement about Democrats and Republicans. You argued that "liberalism" had failed and the only choices left were "leftism" and "conservatism" which meant you had to choose conservatism. This continues to be false. Eluding this by pointing to partisan electoral politics is not a response.

In any case, the Republicans are probably not a viable party in New York if they cling to MAGA (or conservatism even in a Reaganite form) and are especially not in New York City outside of Staten Island. The mandates are not going to turn people into single-issue voters even if you have personally become one over them.

Republicans run things in Staten Island, many parts of southern Brooklyn (especially Coney Island). Then there's entire areas like Suffolk County (Long Island). This map doesn't even include east of a specific point where it gets far more blood red.



As for the state itself,

Being Republican in NY state is extremely viable. The Democratic stranglehold is only fairly recent and Republicans are mounting an offense. There were many upsets this past election due to lower Dem turnout and Republicans are slated to gain even more momentum.

The idea that because NY is a blue state that means there's no avenues for Republicans is false, and a myth. You fell for it hook, line, and sinker. We are literally neighbors with NJ, the same state that almost marginally flipped from blue to red in 2021 just last month. You think I'm the only one flipping?

Niagara Falls report.

https://news.yahoo.com/top-10-big-republican-turnout-224600442.html

NY Times reports: "N.Y. Democrats Assess Losses to Republicans: ‘This Was a Shellacking’"

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/03/nyregion/republican-election-results-new-york.html

2016 state map.



Being Republican in NY nets you many opportunities. The great thing about NY is that Democrats have power and they can't go too far because much of the state votes Republican. The Republicans act as a check. But now with all these mandates the Democratic Party has gone beyond the threshold and they need to be punished thoroughly.

The idea that NY is like California and a Democratic bastion is a media myth. Thanks for falling for it? Long Island and Queens is a great place to get a house to be honest and where I plan on setting up roots.

[benjipwns]

Land doesn't vote.

[benjipwns]

Other kween:

https://twitter.com/mtgreenee/status/1476215613798322176

[tiesto]

Disagree. Third parties are not viable. In America we have a two party system. If Biden isn't correct, Trump obviously is. Currently Republicans are the only people in the country fighting mandates on a wide level. Sure, there's libertarians but the Libertarian Party is a joke of a joke and not viable. Republican is the only choice besides not voting. It's A, B, C, D, Benji.

Went to Trump Tower today and it was pretty cool and friendly. Bought a certain red hat.

You're conflating two things. Electoral strategy and personal ideology are obviously not the same thing. You didn't make a statement about Democrats and Republicans. You argued that "liberalism" had failed and the only choices left were "leftism" and "conservatism" which meant you had to choose conservatism. This continues to be false. Eluding this by pointing to partisan electoral politics is not a response.

In any case, the Republicans are probably not a viable party in New York if they cling to MAGA (or conservatism even in a Reaganite form) and are especially not in New York City outside of Staten Island. The mandates are not going to turn people into single-issue voters even if you have personally become one over them.

Republicans run things in Staten Island, many parts of southern Brooklyn (especially Coney Island). Then there's entire areas like Suffolk County (Long Island). This map doesn't even include east of a specific point where it gets far more blood red.

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As for the state itself,

Being Republican in NY state is extremely viable. The Democratic stranglehold is only fairly recent and Republicans are mounting an offense. There were many upsets this past election due to lower Dem turnout and Republicans are slated to gain even more momentum.

The idea that because NY is a blue state that means there's no avenues for Republicans is false, and a myth. You fell for it hook, line, and sinker. We are literally neighbors with NJ, the same state that almost marginally flipped from blue to red in 2021 just last month. You think I'm the only one flipping?

Niagara Falls report.

https://news.yahoo.com/top-10-big-republican-turnout-224600442.html

NY Times reports: "N.Y. Democrats Assess Losses to Republicans: ‘This Was a Shellacking’"

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/03/nyregion/republican-election-results-new-york.html

2016 state map.

(Image removed from quote.)

Being Republican in NY nets you many opportunities. The great thing about NY is that Democrats have power and they can't go too far because much of the state votes Republican. The Republicans act as a check. But now with all these mandates the Democratic Party has gone beyond the threshold and they need to be punished thoroughly.

The idea that NY is like California and a Democratic bastion is a media myth. Thanks for falling for it? Long Island and Queens is a great place to get a house to be honest and where I plan on setting up roots.

Well, Suffolk elected Trump by under 250 votes... which is a drop in the bucket considering we're one of the most populous counties in the country (1.46 million). The Trump fans here are a very loud, barely majority - you'll see like 10 protestors ad nauseum in front of some of the government buildings here and the corner by the bagel shop I go to.

If you want to move to Suffolk, though, you might like the Stony Brook area (I grew up and live near there) - large state university, decent restaurant scene (lots of Asian restaurants have opened in the past 10 years for instance), 1.5 hours to the city by train/1 by car, near a big mall and lots of big box stores. There's also the Patchogue area, which was pretty dumpy when I was growing up but radically reinvented itself as a new urbanist dream over the last few years - expensive apartments, lots of bars, and a ton of rowdy drunk 20 year olds. If you're interested I could give you a run-down on LI places to move to/places to avoid, based on what you're looking for.

Some things to keep in mind about the island - houses are really expensive and taxes are absolutely ridiculous. There aren't a whole lot of options beyond single-family homes, and most of the construction is from the 60s and 70s; newer mcmansion style will run you at least 700k at the minimum, and brand-new homes are just not a thing anywhere but on the forks (due to it being so built up). Due to the lack of townhouses and apartments, their prices are higher relative to the rest of the country - my ex was paying $1k for a converted garage studio apt. And you'll need a car to get a lot of places (we have buses and the LIRR but there's a lot of places lacking in access to either), even basic necessities like grocery shopping and entertainment.

[Himu]

I'm considering Queens over LI anyways.

Queens is beautiful and the houses are more affordable. Every time I go to Queens I end up thinking,"this place is the spot!" Feels like a place to set some roots.

Pictures from Trump Tower.



The MAGA hat.



Went back to my apartment wearing my hat. Some of the reactions I got were amazing. One black guy did a double take, stared at me and kept screaming,"they hate you, THEY HATE YOU!" I just laughed. I asked one cop if I was near the 5 train because it had been a while since I went to that part of 5th avenue (I knew it was on 59th) and his face was startled and confused at first. Most people ignored me. The fellas at the Trump Tower, which was full of very good people, gave me a thumbs up and gave me confidence to wear it home rather than keep it tucked in the bag. I really felt camaraderie at Trump Tower. I didn't feel judged like I do online. I felt I could express myself freely. No one was racist. I wasn't the only black person or minority period. It was just full of people enjoying their day, eating at a nice, fancy restaurant or taking in the sights while shopping or taking selfies. Everyone was masked, including me. I really enjoyed my time there. Later I made a stop before heading home and didn't feel judged by the other people despite me wearing a MAGA hat. We laughed and got on really well.

I had a good time. It really struck a nerve that my blackness doesn't matter that much but my character. The people I met in line were also black. You'd think they'd judge me but I let them have my space in line (it was a mother and daughter) because I was raised to be a gentleman. For so long I've limited myself or defined myself through my blackness. Perhaps it's time to shed that aspect of myself. I am a person who happens to be black, not a black person. I was already sick and tired of blackness as it is and how so many people define themselves through so this was a nice step forward. Blackness truly is boring as I wrote before.

Best part of Trump Tower is they didn't ask if I was vaxxed. Finally some normalcy in this pit of totalitarianistic horse crap.

[Uncle]

This is what my conservative Republican state is getting up to these days:

https://twitter.com/zittrain/status/1476231700644569091

Every day I'm thankful to not be in school anymore.

I would systematically request that every book in every school library be removed to bury everyone in red tape and also potentially make $$$$$

hell yes

The term cobra effect was coined by economist Horst Siebert based on an anecdote of a (possibly ahistorical) occurrence in India during British rule.[2][3][4] The British government, concerned about the number of venomous cobras in Delhi, offered a bounty for every dead cobra. Initially, this was a successful strategy; large numbers of snakes were killed for the reward. Eventually, however, enterprising people began to breed cobras for the income. When the government became aware of this, the reward program was scrapped. When cobra breeders set their now-worthless snakes free, the wild cobra population further increased.[5]

[Himu]

Good on Oklahoma. I wish the law weren't too strict as it can be abused. Just keep it to certain topics.





That said, good on Oklahoma for protecting our nations children and away from adult-based agendas and overt mental illness. Good job, Oklahoma GOP.

[Himu]

Protect us, guvs

[benjipwns]

Nate Silver making himself look stupid again:
https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1476350997178064897

[Great Rumbler]

Good on Oklahoma. I wish the law weren't too strict as it can be abused. Just keep it to certain topics.





That said, good on Oklahoma for protecting our nations children and away from adult-based agendas and overt mental illness. Good job, Oklahoma GOP.

lmao okay bruh

[Rufus]

No moral compass, just 100% with whoever makes you feel good at the moment.

[Himu]

[Himu]

No moral compass, just 100% with whoever makes you feel good at the moment.

Nah. Both parties are evil. Both bomb brown people and Muslims. Both are racist. Both support the drug war. Both support Israel apartheid. Both support funneling weapons to terrorists. However, we have only two real choices. So if you want to participate you have to choose. To me, vaccine mandates go against my morals. Democrats and liberals and progressives and leftists love limiting speech, actions, liberty, and personal freedom. So right now I'll support GOP. Since neither party are for me, I will vote for my best option at any one time.

The options in America are: 1. be a party loyalist (), 2. don't vote and don't participate, 3. Swing!, 4. vote third party. If you come to the conclusion that neither party is truly good, you will start to vote for which aligns closer to your values. Vaccine mandates, firing people for not taking a vaccine, totalitarian virtue signaling, speech and thought control, giving illegal immigrants the ability to vote, and decades of failing to promise black Americans go against my moral compass. I did better under Trump! So I might well as well flip. This 2+2=4 and perfectly logical. You're just too in your emotions to see it.

When I articulate my disgust with vaccine mandates I am shamed by the liberal flock. Taking away someone's job is utterly depraved especially during a time of high job shortages. Rather than have an opportunity to swing me to their side, they shame like they always do. Therefore this shows our moral compass is actually very different and not worth aligning with.

Also, living in NYC has shown me liberal policies do not work. Being a progressive in a red state is like being Alice in Wonderland: a dream, nothing more. At the end of the day you're just a judgemental European. I don't care what you think.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/09/briefing/swing-voters-us-elections.html

[Occam]

You know what really pisses of libruls? Nazis.
This what you should get next:

Lots of camaraderie, too.
With this, your new friends will love you even more!

[Himu]

You know what really pisses of libruls? Nazis.
This what you should get next.
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Lots of camaraderie, too. You'll love it!

In the four years of Trump as President no one came for me and I lived in Texas. It was all media fear tactics.

I wonder which is more like the Nazi's:

1. A media that defends and pushes your agenda - lgbtq, feminism, endless ads on vaccines (I'm pro-vaxxed and even I feel like I'm being programmed in NYC. Will the next vaccine ad feature nothing but black people again??), endless fear (Omicron! Winter of death!)

2. Your ilk controls speech. I can't even say taco or distinguished mentally-challenged on this website. Control, control, control in the name of keeping others "safe". Once you notice it, it's impossible not to notice.

3. Any minority knows white liberals and white leftists treat us like trash if you hold any opinion outside of their orthodoxy. They deem people different from them utterly incapable.

4. Left people are lacking morality. I've always spoke out how I HATE how they will piss on someone's grave. Take a recent death in Lowtax for example. An orgy of salivating leftists gyrating over the fact someone they didn't like died. "It's okay, he was a piece of shit" ignoring that celebrating someone's death - especially by suicide, yikes - makes you pretty shitty too. At least I am open to my flaws. Leftists deem themselves moral paragons. These are the people that think they're more moral. You call everyone else Nazi's while laughing at the deaths of your opponents. Hard to take your claims seriously when you regularly dehumanize any viewpoint not your own.

Yet everything that you disagree with is Nazism. At this point what isn't Nazism?

Everything about leftists and the leftist platform is about control. If you don't think homeless people should be able to shoot up on the subway then obviously you don't care about them. See? Using an emotional appeal. To do what? Control and guilt and shame. Vaccine mandates? To control your body. Vaccine cards for entry? Controlling your actions through shame. "Vaccinated and caffeinated!" Endless virtue signaling to show your superior ways to control, to silence, to guilt, to shame. You make me sick. If you don't agree with us and our methods then you're obviously on the wrong side.

Who really, are the real Nazis?

Aren't you another Euro? Like I expect you to understand Americans or American issues.

[Himu]

A year ago you were blue no matter who, a year before that you were all about being a gun owning GOP diehard, I'm sure by the next election cycle you'll be cycled back to "wow Republicans actually suck, vote DEM!!!!!!!!" and pretend like none of these posts were ever made

I really regret going blue no matter who. I was so wrong. I felt pressured into it despite loathing Hillary, loathing Biden, loathing Kamala. For years I've voted against what I felt was right because of the looming "Nazi threat". They reward Americans with vaccine mandates and terminating vulnerable citizens. No more. I'll join the other side. I put my faith in the Democratic Party and they return it with totalitarianism. You don't understand that me going blue no matter who is precisely WHY I am doing this. Since I, in the past, gave up my personal disregard for Democrats and put my faith in them, why should I continue to reward them? In the past year every single conspiracy theory lobbied by Trumpers turned out to be true. Vaccine mandates. Vaccine passports. Vaccine chips!

Your entire point is self defeating and precisely why this is necessary. I've been logical this entire time. You simply lack the mental effort or empathy to understand it.

A few years back I felt I was doing what I felt was right by getting with Republicans. I only halted it because of Trump and social pressure. Now I realize I should have stayed with them all along.

The best part about vaccine mandates and other mandates is how it reveals how right the conservatives were this entire fucking time about liberals. Now they've gone full mask off and I thank them for that.

From AnnCoulter.com

As Stan Evans says, whatever liberals disapprove of, they want banned (smoking, guns, practicing Christianity, ROTC, the Pledge of Allegiance) and whatever they approve of, they make mandatory (abortion-on-demand, gay marriage, pornography, condom distribution in public schools, screenings of “An Inconvenient Truth”).

When liberals say, “nothing is sacrosanct,” they mean “nothing other Americans consider sacrosanct is sacrosanct.” They demonstrate their open-mindedness by ridiculing other people’s dogma, but will not brook the most trifling criticism of their own dogmas.

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2014/03/04/5-ways-liberals-try-to-control-you-n1803689

Thank Fuck someone speaking sense after months of mandates and hyperdrive liberalism and ineffectual policy masquerading as safety protocol. Get fucked. Conservatism is the only answer.

You cannot control me any longer, liberal.

[Great Rumbler]

I can't even say taco or distinguished mentally-challenged on this website.

this time the libs have gone too far

[Cryo]

As Stan Evans says, whatever liberals disapprove of, they want banned (smoking, guns, practicing Christianity, ROTC, the Pledge of Allegiance) and whatever they approve of, they make mandatory (abortion-on-demand, gay marriage, pornography, condom distribution in public schools, screenings of “An Inconvenient Truth”).

When liberals say, “nothing is sacrosanct,” they mean “nothing other Americans consider sacrosanct is sacrosanct.” They demonstrate their open-mindedness by ridiculing other people’s dogma, but will not brook the most trifling criticism of their own dogmas.

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2014/03/04/5-ways-liberals-try-to-control-you-n1803689

Thank Fuck someone speaking sense after months of mandates and hyperdrive liberalism and ineffectual policy masquerading as safety protocol. Get fucked. Conservatism is the only answer.

abortion-on-demand

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/19/politics/texas-abortion-heartbeat-ban/index.html

gay marriage

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/states-across-u-s-still-cling-outdated-gay-marriage-bans-n1137936

condom distribution in public schools

https://theworld.org/stories/2012-03-07/abstinence-only-education-bill-passes-utah-senate

screenings of “An Inconvenient Truth”

https://bookriot.com/texas-book-ban-list/

Of course, The Hunger Games isn’t listed, and neither is Battle Royale. After all, stories about kids killing each other doesn’t cause students “discomfort,” but a book that mentions a character’s gay uncle is apparently scarring.

A lot of what you've been posting since returning seems to be you equating the internet to real life and also highlighting the general progression of [whatever group you want to call "not-liberals"] is waging against education, deeming it "brainwashing," in an effort to get "complacent" populaces entirely fueled by "fuck y'all, got mine" and squeezing as much profit from our country and our planet as they can before wiping their hands of what future generations will experience, doubly enforced by also passing laws preventing them from being held responsible.

My next reply will be when you have returned from your next self-imposed exile where you tell us you have left conservatism.  Hope you have a great new years weekend.

[Himu]

Education? My main ire is mandates. They go against liberty and are immoral.

Conflating internet with real life? I'm pretty sure if I step outside my door I'll be greeted with a rainbow flag or something or maybe some ad about how you can help your lgbt child. Where the hell do you think I live? This is everywhere I go.



Everywhere I go is some agenda.

Treating every single part of life as a fucking ad.



"Conflating the internet with real life?"

Let's not forget Faceboook Covid banners. I AM BOOSTED! Or t-shirts advertising you're proudly vaccinated and therefore better than everyone. And let's not forget signs like VACCINATED AND CAFFEINATED. It's endless virtue parade. Vaccinations for liberals, because of the politics they're linked to, have gone from something health related to a status symbol no different than the latest iPhone. The fact it's COMMUNISTS that don't get it always makes me lose my shit.



See ya then.

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