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« Reply #60 on: June 12, 2021, 08:27:19 AM »
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« Reply #61 on: June 12, 2021, 08:39:47 AM »
Nintendo leaked a Ubisoft game  :lol



It's a 2022 release btw, for those still keeping count :trumps
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« Reply #62 on: June 12, 2021, 09:01:34 AM »
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« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2021, 02:33:08 PM »
So with that Rabbids 2, it sure seems to confirm the reddit leak of E3 games.

Nothing surprising in there except The Outer Worlds 2

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Obsidian are good rpg devs, why are they wasting time on their worst franchise ever. The world setting is just incredibly dull. Feels like this is a result of the MS purchase since they threw Outer Worlds on Gamepass and probably a lot of people gave it a shot so MS saw big #s and wants it to be a new big MS franchise (except that it fucking sucks).

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« Reply #64 on: June 12, 2021, 02:34:40 PM »
What would be depressing as fuck is if Obsidian mostly bails on rpgs now under MS leadership and their only "rpg" franchise they do from here on out are Outer Worlds games.  :'(

All gonna depend on what that Josh Sawyer game is. It should be their biggest game in development post-Avowed. If it's not an rpg, Obsidian's future is fucked.

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« Reply #65 on: June 12, 2021, 02:36:13 PM »
Now that MS owns them, like I'd rather have MS stick them on an MS license turned rpg than more Outer Worlds. Halo rpg would be better than that. Forza rpg...I mean it still would be hard to be more boring than Outer Worlds!

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« Reply #66 on: June 12, 2021, 02:39:46 PM »
Was it really that bad? I felt like the foundation for a good game was at least there and the combat managed to feel better than the entirety of Bethesda's output. Biggest problem was how segmented it was, I didn't care about any of the conflicts.

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« Reply #67 on: June 12, 2021, 02:55:16 PM »
The gameplay is uninteresting but fine. Needs more variety and some deeper skills/customization.

The problem is the setting is probably the worst setting an rpg has ever done. Even the characters are boring because they exist in this setting.

Making the world lore about a universe of soulless corporations and soulless stupid people working for them...is fun for about 5 mins. It's a one joke idea that can't support a full game and 2 expansions, let alone a sequel. The sooner they move on to something new the better.


At least Avowed is using Pillars worldlore, which is a pretty good D&D knockoff.

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« Reply #68 on: June 12, 2021, 03:14:39 PM »
Making the world lore about a universe of soulless corporations and soulless stupid people working for them...is fun for about 5 mins. It's a one joke idea that can't support a full game and 2 expansions, let alone a sequel.

It's the joke we've been living our entire lives. I feel like the premise is fine, it's the writing overall that was a huge letdown.

This Rainbow Six Zombie game looks awful by the way.

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« Reply #69 on: June 12, 2021, 03:28:19 PM »
I still haven't played Outer Worlds yet but two things to keep in mind:

1) Chris Avellone isn't with the company any more since he got cancelled, so their output is going to suffer compared to what they've done in the past and

2) Bebpo is a cool dude but has weird takes sometimes

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« Reply #70 on: June 12, 2021, 03:40:34 PM »
You guys enjoying this Ubisoft E3 thing?

Edit: The Chinese spam in the IGN chat is pretty good.

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« Reply #71 on: June 12, 2021, 03:46:42 PM »
No, this Ubi thing is fucking awful.  :lol

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« Reply #72 on: June 12, 2021, 03:48:28 PM »
I still haven't played Outer Worlds yet but two things to keep in mind:

1) Chris Avellone isn't with the company any more since he got cancelled, so their output is going to suffer compared to what they've done in the past and

2) Bebpo is a cool dude but has weird takes sometimes

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Yeah, losing Avellone is huge although it wasn't the cancelled thing. He parted ways on Pillars 2 and burnt bridges in forum posts mid-development. I feel like him and Sawyer butted heads over control since they co-wrote Pillars 1.

But Avellone being their strongest writer responsible for the majority of their interesting games was a huge blow. Sawyer is basically their only big gun story/writer/designer guy left and even at his best he can't write the quality of Avellone. Just look at Sawyer written Pillars 2 character/story-writing vs. Avellone written Pillars 1.

Still Sawyer is a very good game designer, has cool story ideas and is a solid writer (Pillars 2 is all of those things). So I'm still hyped for whatever he does next. But with Avellone gone, outside of a Sawyer project every 4-5 years, their output is probably just not gonna do it for me.

Although Tyranny, which was written by Matt MacLean, was pretty damn solid for a small scope project. I'd be up for whatever he writes next. Hopefully he's the writer on Avowed since Sawyer isn't involved.

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« Reply #73 on: June 12, 2021, 03:49:16 PM »
So is it safe to say Skull and Bones is dead? I'm sure BG&E2 is fucked, doubly so with Ancel gone.

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« Reply #74 on: June 12, 2021, 03:50:02 PM »
Man, Far Cry 6 looks rough graphically.

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« Reply #75 on: June 12, 2021, 03:50:12 PM »
tbh I can't even remember the last ubi game I played. I don't like Far Cry or Ass Crud, do they even make anything else these days? I know lots of people like their games but it's just something I don't "get" for whatever reason

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« Reply #76 on: June 12, 2021, 04:00:01 PM »
I play most of their stuff as filler games. Their games are pretty much the popcorn flicks of gaming.

This Mario and Rabbids stuff is the only actual good thing they've done in recent years.

Edit: One last thing... And it's a fucking Avatar game. (The shitty blue alien one.)
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« Reply #77 on: June 12, 2021, 04:08:12 PM »
The Avatar game has been in the oven a while, they should have shown a vertical slice.

Also if I remember correctly, it's a looter-shooter so...  :neogaf

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« Reply #78 on: June 12, 2021, 04:08:27 PM »
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« Reply #79 on: June 12, 2021, 04:10:48 PM »
Not showing proper gameplay of Mario, but spending 30 minutes on that shitty R6 game  :rage
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« Reply #80 on: June 12, 2021, 04:36:11 PM »
Not watching ubitrash  :preach
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« Reply #81 on: June 12, 2021, 04:41:26 PM »
I bought the Mario and Rabbids DLC when it went on sale but never played it. Really need to, I enjoyed the rest of the game a lot.
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« Reply #82 on: June 12, 2021, 04:47:32 PM »
The gameplay is uninteresting but fine. Needs more variety and some deeper skills/customization.

The problem is the setting is probably the worst setting an rpg has ever done. Even the characters are boring because they exist in this setting.

Making the world lore about a universe of soulless corporations and soulless stupid people working for them...is fun for about 5 mins. It's a one joke idea that can't support a full game and 2 expansions, let alone a sequel. The sooner they move on to something new the better.


At least Avowed is using Pillars worldlore, which is a pretty good D&D knockoff.

Outer Worlds was shite, once the its like fallout, but without all the bugs feels wore out, you was left with  a desperately mediocre game that was pretty ugly to look at :trumps
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« Reply #83 on: June 12, 2021, 05:29:49 PM »
Ubisoft was weak as expected.

They're going to remaster(?) Blood Dragon which is pretty awesome.
But other than that an Avatar bullshot trailer and a bunch of DLC"s and expansions.

Who on gods green earth even wants a Watch Dogs Legion DLC with the guy from Watch Dogs 1  :idont

Also just how much money have these clowns sunk into BGE2 only to pull the plug again :lol

Rainbow Six with Alien zombies :dead
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« Reply #84 on: June 12, 2021, 05:59:52 PM »
I had zero expectations for this E3, and it's going worse than i had imagined. :doge

Ubisoft was awful, one of the most pointless conferences in memory, and i usually like Ubisoft games.

R6AlienGoo looks like the death of creativity.
Far Cry6 they couldn't even bother to show gameplay, and instead gave use some awful overacted cutscene, with their stupid villains that are all the same.

Then close with Avatar, which looked nice, but it's first person, so hard pass.

Goddamn man, i really hope MS and Nintendo are bringing SOMETHING. :fbm

Silver lining: Nothing past midnight, this year.

EDIT: Oh yeah i forgot about Mario, that looked alright i suppose, unfortunately i just don't care about it at all.
Still they had content for, like, a 30 minutes direct thing at best.

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« Reply #85 on: June 12, 2021, 06:40:00 PM »
Talking about creativity is Nintendo just going to repeat the 2017 line-up?

2017 vs 2022
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild -> The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2
1-2-Switch ->
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe -> Mario Kart 9?
Arms -> Arms 2?
Splatoon 2 -> Splatoon 3
Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle -> Mario + Rabbids: Sparks of Hope
Pokkén Tournament DX
Fire Emblem Warriors
Super Mario Odyssey -> Super Mario Odyssey 2(?)
Snipperclips Plus
Xenoblade Chronicles 2 -> Xenoblade Chronicles 3(?)
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I like how in the Rainbow Six demo they said something like: "And these guys are hard to take down in large numbers!" and there was literally 1 or 2 of those zombie things standing still in a hall way and they all take 1 shot to kill.  :doge :lol

I've completely given up on this year. Nintendo will probably focus this holiday on the Pokemon games and drop a few more Zelda ports for the anniversary.
Maybe they squeeze out a Donkey Kong game or another Star Fox or something. I don't see how they are going to announce a slate of interesting games that somehow ship between now and the release of Splatoon 3.

It'll probably look something like this

No More Heroes 3 - August
Fire Emblem: Radiant Saga(?) (remasters of GC and Wii Fire Emblem games) - September
Zelda something - October
Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl - November
Donkey Kong - November
Resident Evil Outrage - December

As for Microsoft, if they manage it'll be Psychonauts, HALO and Forza this year. Maybe that Rare thing ships early 2022. Starfield is probably their holiday 2022 headliner.
In an interview they said they want to release 1 first party game each quarter.

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« Reply #86 on: June 12, 2021, 09:26:59 PM »
I keep getting older but the games stay the same
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« Reply #87 on: June 13, 2021, 01:27:41 AM »
Man, Far Cry 6 looks rough graphically.

It looked like a 360 game.
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« Reply #88 on: June 13, 2021, 02:04:36 AM »
When I think of the good parts of John Wick, the writing is not one of them. Like, at all...
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« Reply #89 on: June 13, 2021, 02:47:53 AM »
Man, Far Cry 6 looks rough graphically.

It looked like a 360 game.
Character models look dated, but environments look quite great.  ???
Much like the latest AC games, and Watch Dogs, now that i think about it.

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« Reply #90 on: June 13, 2021, 05:14:08 AM »
ubi have always had wonky character models imo
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« Reply #91 on: June 13, 2021, 05:38:28 AM »
ACUnity had very good models (bugs aside) and then they kind of got stuck on a mediocre level ever since, for the most part.
They're not unwatchable, but if you come from something like Last of Us, or God of War, it's a pretty grim jump down.

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« Reply #92 on: June 13, 2021, 06:03:03 AM »
Far Cry 6 looks like it's completely held back by the old gen. Far Cry 5 probably already pushed what the machines could do graphically. And it already had to cut certain simulations like foliage reacting to wind/the player character to make it happen. Shorter draw distance on the level of detail.

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« Reply #93 on: June 13, 2021, 06:40:20 AM »
Obviously is held back from being cross gen (like most cross gen titles), but i think it looks good:


Like the forest shots around 1:40, the vista at 1:58, etc.

It doesn't look revolutionary, but it looks good, and compared to something like Horizon, it's obviously playing with a different rule-set (having planes/helicopters etc).

Aesthetically i don't like how dark it is, it's supposed to be Cuba, they could've gone with some more vibrant colors, less dark shadows, nice blue skies... but that's an artistic critique, more than a technical one.
Character models though look worse than even Valhalla.

Also Esposito's acting was awful in that cutscene they showed, and i know it's not his fault (because he can be great), probably whoever directed him was the culprit.
They feel like for a villain to be intense, they need to raise their voice every other sentence, it's so comical.
It worked for Vaas, but it's gotten old now.

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« Reply #94 on: June 13, 2021, 06:46:03 AM »
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« Reply #95 on: June 13, 2021, 07:00:48 AM »
It doesn't look revolutionary, but it looks good, and compared to something like Horizon, it's obviously playing with a different rule-set (having planes/helicopters etc).

Aesthetically i don't like how dark it is, it's supposed to be Cuba, they could've gone with some more vibrant colors, less dark shadows, nice blue skies... but that's an artistic critique, more than a technical one.
Character models though look worse than even Valhalla.

I can imagine the woke folks calling them out on that shit, since it's the same thing that happens in movies set in middle-america. Just drop a yellow filter over it.

Your and my viewpoint on looking good is probably the difference between looking at the quality of the assets and the implementation of those assets. In parts these games manage to look worse than even Far Cry 4 cause the world is so goddamn static. The scene with the alligator jumping out of the water, the only thing I see is it clipping through the foliage instead of it pushing the plants out of the way. Even though the individual assets might be of a higher quality, the lower cohesiveness of the whole manages to make it feel worse to me.


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« Reply #96 on: June 13, 2021, 12:41:59 PM »
Im cautiously excited for MS and Bethesda
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« Reply #97 on: June 13, 2021, 12:43:42 PM »
giz some hot gamepass shit pls phil :-*
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« Reply #98 on: June 13, 2021, 12:50:40 PM »
Bezos leaking the Starfield trailer is definitely a top ten anime betrayal
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« Reply #99 on: June 13, 2021, 12:59:19 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/sports/launcher/trailer-starfield/2021/06/13/6dc44dc4-fbc4-4073-b99e-88593e4127aa_video.html

Pretty boring trailer and a November 2022 release as predicted by yours truely :success


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« Reply #100 on: June 13, 2021, 01:03:00 PM »
looking forward to some prime todd bullshit :doge
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« Reply #101 on: June 13, 2021, 01:05:17 PM »
whats the point in doing a sequel to the shitty outer worlds if you have starfield?
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« Reply #102 on: June 13, 2021, 01:06:29 PM »
A nothing teaser and a year away. Pretty meh ways to start this.

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« Reply #103 on: June 13, 2021, 01:09:29 PM »
didn't even let todd lie about it being on an all new engine :heh
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« Reply #104 on: June 13, 2021, 01:14:25 PM »
Why are all of you torturing yourselves by watching a post Covid "E3"?  :lol
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« Reply #105 on: June 13, 2021, 01:22:03 PM »
Yakuza 7 looks so lame.

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« Reply #106 on: June 13, 2021, 01:25:37 PM »
Battlefield and Stalker look pretty good.

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« Reply #107 on: June 13, 2021, 01:26:58 PM »
speaking of lame looking vidya...
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« Reply #108 on: June 13, 2021, 01:29:34 PM »
i thought they'd be pretending fallout 76 never existed rather than still talking about it :doge
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« Reply #109 on: June 13, 2021, 01:39:19 PM »
Halo F2P  :lol

Bonnie again excited to be with the creative director, the 5th(?) she's had on this project :whew
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« Reply #110 on: June 13, 2021, 01:40:42 PM »
at least they've not accidentally shown the n64 port of it this time :lol
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« Reply #111 on: June 13, 2021, 01:42:05 PM »
This new Cortana seems fucking awful...

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« Reply #112 on: June 13, 2021, 01:44:45 PM »
Next Halo multiplayer F2P, killstreaks and care packages and m-m-monster kill announcer
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« Reply #113 on: June 13, 2021, 01:54:43 PM »
Russian Bioshock.

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« Reply #114 on: June 13, 2021, 01:56:18 PM »
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« Reply #115 on: June 13, 2021, 01:56:54 PM »
Joe Staten just cut up their open worlds into death match maps and brought back Cortona :mynicca
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« Reply #116 on: June 13, 2021, 02:01:50 PM »
at least they're not asking you to pay $60 a pop for all these games :lol
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« Reply #117 on: June 13, 2021, 02:04:52 PM »
get hyped fablies!
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« Reply #118 on: June 13, 2021, 02:05:45 PM »
 :yuck
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« Reply #119 on: June 13, 2021, 02:09:26 PM »
now we're talking girls :hyper
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