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Maybe they’ll just renegotiate a total ban to just a positive post ban
Does it end with you defeating the evil goblin?
Quote from: Snoopycat_ on February 07, 2023, 08:12:09 PMQuote from: Greatness Gone on February 07, 2023, 07:54:06 PMwe got our first reply...https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-44#post-100895518"Kyuuji, post: 100895518, member: 31943"Saw this letter published in the Guardian, Lol. Nep won.I'll give credit where credit's due. That's B-Dubs. After the Messie ban, he couldn't go in there himself to wave the ban hammer and pound his chest, so he sent his House Transgender to do it, NepNep. And she LOVES to wield an iron fist more than anything.
Quote from: Greatness Gone on February 07, 2023, 07:54:06 PMwe got our first reply...https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-44#post-100895518"Kyuuji, post: 100895518, member: 31943"Saw this letter published in the Guardian, Lol. Nep won.
we got our first reply...https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-44#post-100895518"Kyuuji, post: 100895518, member: 31943"Saw this letter published in the Guardian,
Can we stop discussion of this game? Not feeling good on giving a dev a platform whose revenue helps killing people in the Ukraine.
I agree. How can the mods put a blanket ban on one game for things someone has said, and yet this one gets a free pass even though it is LITERALLY funding actual deaths?Surely, for balance, ALL discussion of this game should be officially banned including any OT ? This is the precedent now set by the ModTeam.
I agree. Next we should also stop discussion about Nintendo since 6% of their shares are from the Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund, so I don't feel good giving a company a platform whose revenue helps killing people in Yemen.
And CoD or any other game that pays Colt and similar weapons manufacturers to get the rights to call their weapons by their names. I don't feel good giving a company a platform whose revenue helps killing people anywhere.
Given the ongoing gun violence epidemic, there really should be a blanket ban on discussions of any game featuring real life firearms, as they all contribute to the proliferation of gun culture.
My mom, in the car this evening: "So why is everyone mad at JK Rowling right now?"Me: (Image removed from quote.)Thankfully, her takeaway from my long-winded, hypoglycemia-exacerbated explanation (I may have used the phrase "the self-proclaimed avatar of transphobia" like three times) was "why can't she just keep her nose out of people's lives?"
"the self-proclaimed avatar of transphobia"
I know this was already posted, but it’s so terrible it deserves to be shit on some more:Quote from: PlanetSmasher, post: 100900594, member: 6260My mom, in the car this evening: "So why is everyone mad at JK Rowling right now?"Me: (Image removed from quote.)Thankfully, her takeaway from my long-winded, hypoglycemia-exacerbated explanation (I may have used the phrase "the self-proclaimed avatar of transphobia" like three times) was "why can't she just keep her nose out of people's lives?" You just know he’s so proud of that nonsensical shit
Quote"the self-proclaimed avatar of transphobia"Mom was never prouder of putting him through comedy school
The initial message that there would be no OT and no discussion of the game is black-and-white except for when I think about it in conjunction with the existing thread on JK. It seems inevitable that JK and other shitheads are going to use the sales and popularity of the game to validate their terrible beliefs, and it seems like we won't be able to push back and discuss articles, interviews, whatever that come about because of the game.I will say I appreciate how understanding and open the moderators/administrators have been these last few days. The initial announcement and subsequent handling of some questions around the announcement seemed prickly to say the least, and I was afraid to even ask any questions. There were a few posts of mine that definitely walked the line, and I worried after posting that the hammer was incoming. I'll do better.
Agreed with Lobster Roll below and I'm just going to edit this out to play it safe.
I think that we're entering territory that will be taken as a circumvention of the rules of discussing the game. I think the rule is clear to me - when in doubt, don't discuss the game.
Quote from: benjipwns on February 08, 2023, 12:44:07 AMhttps://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1622993029584809985 Not an ally? What is this gutless shit? I can’t imagine a sincere fear of being ‘yelled at’ through a fucking twitch chat box. By all means though, tell me about your bravery in the face of some squawking harpies.Internet people fucking suck.
https://twitter.com/Dexerto/status/1622993029584809985 Not an ally?
Some people in ResetERA will only be happy when no games ever can be discussed. Let's ban discussion of every game, and all gaming news.ResetERA OT only 4eva.
Its confusing if you're not here everyday to know whats up.I was looking for the review thread of 'we dont speak its name' game for a good while until i saw the sticky.We should just go the Disney way and have a big ass attachment on every sketchy ethics game and keep it open for discussion.Or else you get stuff like this.
If this game ends up getting an OT and a further platform for discussion after Cyberpunk and Hogwarts were nuked off the site, then that sends a very clear message about what issues are considered issues and which are not.
The wizard game was a very unique situation.That should not be the norm for games going forward, i'm all for putting a disclaimer in the eventual OT, but if we start banning games for their investors, that's going to a open up a shit ton of other games to being banned as well. The whole "no ethical consumption under capitalism" thing means most of what we consume unfortunately will be funding someone else's harm.
I understand the argument about wanting this game banned, but all of this 'well, we banned that other game, so we should ban every game' is getting major side-eye. You can make have perfectly good reasoning for why you think we shouldn't talk about this game without trying to make it about the perfectly legitimate reasoning why Hogwarts was banned.
might as well ban the game, every thread on it is just gonna be this anyway
What's the point in allowing discussion of a game when it stands no chance of actually being discussed without derailment?
Just give it a week or two. Everyone upset will move on to wanting to ban something else they never had any intention of playing anyway.
Quote from: Natsuki_SubaruIf this game ends up getting an OT and a further platform for discussion after Cyberpunk and Hogwarts were nuked off the site, then that sends a very clear message about what issues are considered issues and which are not.(Image removed from quote.)
They hate whenever someone points out double standards
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No it's not. Because the developpers, creators, writers of Atomic Heart are not problematic.You're literally trying to ban a game from this forum just for being developped in Russia. You do realize how problematic it is to throw a blanket ban for this reason right ? At this point it's pretty much xenophobia
Yes, there are some legitimate concerns surrounding the game's financing. But if you are going to make the claim that Mundfish (and by extension, anyone buying the game) is funding actual genocide, you better have some really good receipts handy.
You do realize how problematic it is to throw a blanket ban for this reason right ?
Yes, purchasing a game being just one step below putting on a uniform and killing Ukrainians for Russia isn't hyperbole. Nope, totally rational and not a leap at all.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/atomic-heart-interview-with-game-director.684439/page-2#post-100920697Quote from: B-DumbsDerailing threads to discuss what pieces of media you want moderation to ban is not allowed. Any further digressions will result in bans. If you want to discuss moderation policies in this area, please feel free to submit a ticket. This is also the remedy if you wish to appeal your ban for ignoring this post. Knock it off, please./STAFF]Translation: Shut up and stop talking about our terrible, inconsistent moderation.
Quote from: JuturnaYes, purchasing a game being just one step below putting on a uniform and killing Ukrainians for Russia isn't hyperbole. Nope, totally rational and not a leap at all.How does this logic not apply to HL as well? Someone buying HL doesn't mean they are gonna go join in a genocide of trans people.
Hello team,Is there an official stance on Atomic Heart talks ? Thanks !
I would also be interested in an official mod response on the Atomic Heart allegations. I keep seeing a lot of people post circumstantial evidence as 100% fact and I find posts like this one to be extremely aggressive and alarmist. People keep saying it's "incredibly likely" the developers support the war or that their profits are going towards the Russian war effort, but everything I've found on this topic has been basically twitter/reddit sleuthing that has led to people jumping to conclusions. And honestly, seeing people try to virtue signal by saying shit like "oh so you all care about boycotting the terf game but you don't care about giving money to the Russian government?" when they're not remotely the same thing feels borderline offensive to me.I'm sure some people here are going to disagree with the statements I've made above. But I've done the research and I have not seen any actual proof that Atomic Heart and Mundfish are directly benefitting the Russian war effort, and I'm exhausted by seeing people constantly present it as fact with zero pushback whatsoever. Like I said in the thread I linked, I have no issues with people making their own decisions because they're uncomfortable with the game likely being funded by a Russian oligarch, but I think accusing people who play the game as supporting war crimes is a step way too far.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/atomic-heart-interview-with-game-director.684439/QuoteCan we stop discussion of this game? Not feeling good on giving a dev a platform whose revenue helps killing people in the Ukraine.QuoteI agree. How can the mods put a blanket ban on one game for things someone has said, and yet this one gets a free pass even though it is LITERALLY funding actual deaths?Surely, for balance, ALL discussion of this game should be officially banned including any OT ? This is the precedent now set by the ModTeam.If only we could have predicted this being the result of capitulation to a bunch of insane people.spoiler (click to show/hide)QuoteI agree. Next we should also stop discussion about Nintendo since 6% of their shares are from the Saudi Arabia Public Investment Fund, so I don't feel good giving a company a platform whose revenue helps killing people in Yemen.QuoteAnd CoD or any other game that pays Colt and similar weapons manufacturers to get the rights to call their weapons by their names. I don't feel good giving a company a platform whose revenue helps killing people anywhere.QuoteGiven the ongoing gun violence epidemic, there really should be a blanket ban on discussions of any game featuring real life firearms, as they all contribute to the proliferation of gun culture.All this sweet sweet whataboutism[close]
And honestly, seeing people try to virtue signal by saying shit like "oh so you all care about boycotting the terf game but you don't care about giving money to the Russian government?" when they're not remotely the same thing feels borderline offensive to me.
Just waiting for the other shoe to drop and for Miyamoto to announce at the Nintendo Direct that all profits from Tears of the Kingdom are going to exterminating the Uyghur.
I think what disappoints me the most is how people jump to defend these companies. They aren't your friends, and will never be. Plus they have been earning so much money in this digital age.
https://twitter.com/_Tom_Henderson_/status/1623063082044997632HENDERSON
Only losers had an N64
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/atomic-heart-interview-with-game-director.684439/page-3Quote from: NepentheLocking this thread until we handle reports and posts. We made it very clear with the announcement of the Hogwarts Legacy ban that brigading and derailing threads for other content to be banned would be against the rules. If it is to be banned, it will be at staff discretion. Posters breaking this rule and the additional staff post will be actioned accordingly.Can people have a discussion about anything on this fascist ass forum?
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