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Bebpo

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Flashbacks can be tricky if not handled well. I'm not opposed to starting the way they did, I just think the pacing and scenes should have been altered in order to prepare people better for the jumps. Flashbacks and a flurry/onslaught of new names and characters to remember may have been too much for television.

They could've just started with where this season will end or next season starts. With the main cast and the main story starting.

I'm not going to fault them for wanting to give a season to introduce and develop these characters first though. I'm not sure if the story would work just jumping into the main timeline because shit pops off immediately and then it's just nonstop events. I think doing this season to do the character development stuff first will end up paying off in terms of audience attachment to the characters.

But it is a bit weird. Plus most of the good stuff doesn't actually start until next season so it's sorta a big teaser and then a year wait until S2. I think S1 finale is gonna be really good though.

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At this point I'm pretty sure the king dying and Alicent making her play and the war officially beginning is going to be the season finale. At first I thought they were gonna wait until S2 ep1 to start the war, but they're not going to do 9-10 hours of build up towards a clash and then just end the season and wait a year for that clash to begin.

So the finale should be really exciting and a big pay off for everything built up in the season. And will get people hooked for S2.

Can't wait.
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The spoilers that floated around a year ago claimed that the season will end with Aemond killing Lucerys over Shipbreaker Bay, and Rhaenyra learning the news. Of course the problem with that is it means that within these next couple episodes there has to be another time jump and Aegon II has to get married to set up the Blood & Cheese thing early next season.

I think viewers like Rhae but besides sympathy for the character I'm not sure how much Lucerys' death will hit people. I think it'll instead be a "omg dragon fight cool" reaction from people. They've got to really make sure that when S2 starts, everyone is ready to go. Jacerys vowing to avenge his brother, Daemon marrying Rhae, etc.
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I'm confused though, I thought that happens in the novella well after the king dies and the war starts. Like my recollection of events is that Princess and the Queen novella basically started with the king's death and then Alicent making her play, and then everyone assembling allies but no actual fighting/deaths, and then the Daemon thing happens and the deaths and fighting starts rolling.

Maybe my memory is off on the timeline and the king doesn't die until further in? But that wouldn't make sense. They wouldn't be killing each other's kids with the king still alive watching it go on. Doesn't the king need to die first?

Unless you're saying the king will die and Alicent will make her move before the finale ep and then they'll go even further and do the dragon fight by the finale. Which I guess is possible, but GRRM's comments on this season sounded like the war doesn't start until S2. Although maybe 'officially' the war doesn't start until after the first kids are dead on each side so maybe that's what he means. Given the pace they've been going so far, that would seem kind of rushing the start of the war stuff in this season though, so idk.
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Phoenix Dark

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Flashbacks can be tricky if not handled well. I'm not opposed to starting the way they did, I just think the pacing and scenes should have been altered in order to prepare people better for the jumps. Flashbacks and a flurry/onslaught of new names and characters to remember may have been too much for television.

They could've just started with where this season will end or next season starts. With the main cast and the main story starting.

I'm not going to fault them for wanting to give a season to introduce and develop these characters first though. I'm not sure if the story would work just jumping into the main timeline because shit pops off immediately and then it's just nonstop events. I think doing this season to do the character development stuff first will end up paying off in terms of audience attachment to the characters.

But it is a bit weird. Plus most of the good stuff doesn't actually start until next season so it's sorta a big teaser and then a year wait until S2. I think S1 finale is gonna be really good though.

Book spoilers for S1 finale
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At this point I'm pretty sure the king dying and Alicent making her play and the war officially beginning is going to be the season finale. At first I thought they were gonna wait until S2 ep1 to start the war, but they're not going to do 9-10 hours of build up towards a clash and then just end the season and wait a year for that clash to begin.

So the finale should be really exciting and a big pay off for everything built up in the season. And will get people hooked for S2.

Can't wait.
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The spoilers that floated around a year ago claimed that the season will end with Aemond killing Lucerys over Shipbreaker Bay, and Rhaenyra learning the news. Of course the problem with that is it means that within these next couple episodes there has to be another time jump and Aegon II has to get married to set up the Blood & Cheese thing early next season.

I think viewers like Rhae but besides sympathy for the character I'm not sure how much Lucerys' death will hit people. I think it'll instead be a "omg dragon fight cool" reaction from people. They've got to really make sure that when S2 starts, everyone is ready to go. Jacerys vowing to avenge his brother, Daemon marrying Rhae, etc.
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I'm confused though, I thought that happens in the novella well after the king dies and the war starts. Like my recollection of events is that Princess and the Queen novella basically started with the king's death and then Alicent making her play, and then everyone assembling allies but no actual fighting/deaths, and then the Daemon thing happens and the deaths and fighting starts rolling.

Maybe my memory is off on the timeline and the king doesn't die until further in? But that wouldn't make sense. They wouldn't be killing each other's kids with the king still alive watching it go on. Doesn't the king need to die first?

Unless you're saying the king will die and Alicent will make her move before the finale ep and then they'll go even further and do the dragon fight by the finale. Which I guess is possible, but GRRM's comments on this season sounded like the war doesn't start until S2. Although maybe 'officially' the war doesn't start until after the first kids are dead on each side so maybe that's what he means. Given the pace they've been going so far, that would seem kind of rushing the start of the war stuff in this season though, so idk.
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Yes. King dies, Alicent/Cole make their move, Rhae crowns herself later upon hearing the news. Alicent and Rhaenyra both send sons to Strom's End seeking an alliance with the Baratheons, and Aemond kills Jacerys in their battle there. It's the first major confrontation of the war, besides some quick skirmishes that happen earlier. It's basically the "oh shit" moment that sparks all out warfare.
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Bebpo

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Yeah, that lines up with my recollection. I guess I just don’t expect the show to get that far this season at the pace they’re going. But 4 hours+ is a lot of time and with these timeskips who knows.

Also I don’t see how they can make this show last four seasons if they are going that far by the end of S1. Makes more sense if they’re aiming for three.

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Everyone I've spoken to that hasn't read the source material had exactly the same reaction to the Strong brothers as I did.

Who the hell is Harwin?
Larys is his brother...WTF?

I assumed I just didn't pay attention well enough, but that seems to have been a common reaction, so that is on the showrunners.
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Bebpo

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I never noticed Harwin in the show before this episode.

Larys had like two scenes prior so he was established as well as his father.

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Harwin was the City Watch guard who recognized Rhaenyra during her tryst in King's Landing and let her go. Unless I'm forgetting something, he didn't have a noteworthy scene after that until the wedding feast, where he saved Rahenyra from the brawl. Likewise, Larys only had two scenes prior the last episode as well. I definitely think that's bad writing, especially for a show that has largely just been a collection of conversations between multiple characters. Surely there was time to add both of them to more scenes, give them a proper introduction, etc. When Lyonel (their father) was made Hand it would have been very easy to simply have the king invite the family to dinner. You'd get all of them in a room, plus Cole in the background as designated Knights Guard. Perfect opportunity to officially introduce everyone.

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Something that strikes me as bit weird in hindsight is that Cole is now the Queen's personal bodyguard with seemingly no repercussion after killing Laenor's lover at the wedding. We probably can assume that Alicent somehow convinced the King to pardon him but I guess that's the downside of timeskips as events have already moved on.

Bebpo

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Solid ep this week, but I really feel like timeskip Alicent was bad casting or bad acting. Almost every scene is just her staring off with a resting bitch face. She seems more a caricature than a character compared to Rhaenyra whose well developed and well acted.

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Larys goes “I’ll await your call” and just stands there. He’s got the creep weirdo thing down.

Phoenix Dark

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Probably my favorite episode and the best mixture of intrigue and "action" in awhile. Starting off with the oddly tense family reception scene. Really liked how you could imagine what each character wanted to say to each other during that awkwardly silent period.

I liked the return of Heleana Targaryen and them establishing that she is...off. And of course the episode including the conclusion of her Aemond prophesy from the previous ep about having to close an eye before receiving a dragon. Not to mention Otto Hightower noting that winning over the largest dragon to the greens was important.

Speaking of greens I remain baffled why they never really established the "greens and blacks" thing given that it's perhaps the first iconic historical moment in the story. It's largely felt like Alicent has all the schemers and allies whereas Rhaenyra has drifted from embarrassment to embarrassment (as an adult) until last night. I know a lot of it is coming later but introducing more great houses and the who may or may not favor who would have been a good move.

The only thing I didn't really like was the end with them plotting to kill Laenor. Just seemed like another questionable mis-reading of GRRM when it comes to what a "gray character" is. In the books it's rumored that Daemon had Laenor killed, just as it's rumored that he had Harwin killed. I've got no issue with Daemon doing it in the show, I just wish Rhaenyra wasn't involved. Also didn't like them fucking on the beach lol. Just reckless behavior from someone who often seems unserious or oblivious about her claim and the responsibilities she has...and then to suddenly turn into Michael Corleone and have your husband killed ehhh.

Looks like the final time jump is next, and then shit hits the fan.
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:lol This was probably my least favorite episode so far. Big props to the wordless opening, that's some masterclass direction there. And the big confrontation scene was excellent.

The rest... I finally agree with the "too fast" complaints. And I'm finally settled in again and there's another time jump and new actors next week. This episode was the first one I lost hype in where things are going.

They didn't spend as much time on Viserys as I'd like, right when he should be exiting the stage. I really enjoyed his viewpoint scenes so far but the cast is getting so crowded now. That plus Rhaneyra's actor changing means I feel like I have no connection to the "protagonists" I established in my head earlier this season.

Still top-tier writing, effects, and acting.

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Probably my favorite episode and the best mixture of intrigue and "action" in awhile. Starting off with the oddly tense family reception scene. Really liked how you could imagine what each character wanted to say to each other during that awkwardly silent period.

I liked the return of Heleana Targaryen and them establishing that she is...off. And of course the episode including the conclusion of her Aemond prophesy from the previous ep about having to close an eye before receiving a dragon. Not to mention Otto Hightower noting that winning over the largest dragon to the greens was important.

Speaking of greens I remain baffled why they never really established the "greens and blacks" thing given that it's perhaps the first iconic historical moment in the story. It's largely felt like Alicent has all the schemers and allies whereas Rhaenyra has drifted from embarrassment to embarrassment (as an adult) until last night. I know a lot of it is coming later but introducing more great houses and the who may or may not favor who would have been a good move.

The only thing I didn't really like was the end with them plotting to kill Laenor. Just seemed like another questionable mis-reading of GRRM when it comes to what a "gray character" is. In the books it's rumored that Daemon had Laenor killed, just as it's rumored that he had Harwin killed. I've got no issue with Daemon doing it in the show, I just wish Rhaenyra wasn't involved. Also didn't like them fucking on the beach lol. Just reckless behavior from someone who often seems unserious or oblivious about her claim and the responsibilities she has...and then to suddenly turn into Michael Corleone and have your husband killed ehhh.

Looks like the final time jump is next, and then shit hits the fan.

I missed it because his head was shaved, but Rhaenyra and Daemon's plan (or possibly, Qarl's reinterpretation of their plan) was for Qarl and Laenor to both escape across the Narrow Sea together. It's both of them in the row boat at the end.

Rhaenyra didn't kill anybody yet, but she's going to use the whispers about it to her advantage. "Our enemies will wonder what else we are capable of."

That was really cool, because this show is so well written the entire audience thinks Rhae is really doing it... Only to have the twist be that someone survived. That's messing with expectations as it should be done. And Rhaenyra remains likable to the audience.

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That was another great episode.

Rhaenyra and Daemon together is going to be chaos and fun.
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This raises a good point about book canon vs. show canon.

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Next season could be the first/only depicted instance of someone claiming a dragon while that rider is still alive (aka dragon abandonment), unless Laenor dies between now and then.
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This shit was so good! Preview looks crazy too
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Sick episode. The big confrontation scene is probably my favorite so far.

Daemon and Rhaneyra being a power couple is super fucked up btw :lol
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That was the greatest kid fight I've ever seen, they really went to town.  :lol

Also really liking the twists and turns the story is taking. Rhanerya ending up with her uncle is not what I expected after the first couple of episodes

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Not the reaction I expected  :lol

https://twitter.com/Beelzebubesque/status/1577372126767554565

Marrying your uncle was never this romantic

Nintex

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Guess we now know what type of incest porn will be trending next.  :doge
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Bebpo

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Great ep. The art direction is so on point with this show. Really enjoyed the dinner.

The next two weeks waits for the final eps are going to be brutal.

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Just caught up with episode 7.

The long silences in the opening scene were brilliant. Shit is clearly about to explode and the only thing keeping a lid on everyone killing each other is the continued existence of the King, who is clearly oblivious to how fucked up things have got under his watch.

The new Rhanerya actress is just not doing it for me. Her mannerisms are just so inconsistent with the younger version.

Kid fight and aftermath was great. Really fit everything so well and that's how this sort of underlying tension among adults often breaks out into open conflict. Been there, done that to a small degree myself, so it was uncomfortable to watch, which is exactly what it should have felt like.

The whole "greens" thing came out of nowhere and didn't make sense to me. Only reason I knew what it meant was from discussion here.

On a final, general, note, making royal families incestuous works as a narrative device when you want to paint the family as being historically peculiar or to use it as a way to illustrate the need to concentrate power and limit competition for the throne, but having your lead characters thirsty enthusiastic family fuckers just makes people go
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Remember that if you are planning on writing a script or novel or something.
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That throne room scene in Ep 8 deserves a fucking Oscar. For everyone. Even the gaffers. Fucking hell...

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Tasty got me excited.

Heading home from work now. Definitely watching episode 8 tonight.
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Bebpo

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That throne room scene in Ep 8 deserves a fucking Oscar. For everyone. Even the gaffers. Fucking hell...

Yeah, that was the best direction/art direction in the ep. The mask was very cool looking.

The only thing that kind of spoils that scene as a whole and the only issue I had with the whole ep was

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The CG when he cuts his head off is awful.
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Looked fine to me, but I might have been too busy popping off.

Less than 2 mins earlier I was tearing up at Daemon actually helping Viserys. So many great payoffs this episode.
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Tasty

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Been thinking this since ep1 but fuck everyone else, #TeamRhaenys.


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Think it’s discussed earlier in this thread, about Velaryons portrayed by black actors, and playing into the lineage and bloodline questions. Always a safe inference but, ironically, never said out loud by writers. Some plausible deniability. But during the behind the episode segment, it’s said the boys being white with brown hair was to make it obvious. Yeah. It’s a choice.

Anyway, Aemond stole Daemon’s whole deal. Kid completely swagger jacked him.

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Pretty happy with that episode
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Phoenix Dark

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Great episode. Lots of I, Claudius vibes in terms of the palace intrigue and plotting. This episode nailed nearly everything I had been asking for. That family dinner scene was spectacular from beginning to end, reestablished the stakes, and most importantly established who these characters are without much of any exposition. With just a couple lines and actions you understand who Jace is. You understand who Aegon and Aemond are. Very well done. This is what I would have liked to have seen earlier for Harwin and Larys Strong. As well as Laenor and his sister.

That throne scene was arguably the best one in either show. Certainly my favorite since the end of S1 (Barristan resigning, Joffrey demanding Ned bend the knee). Just perfectly executed drama. I agree the CGI during that...one part looked bad but outside of that bravo.

Also it highlighted the "race" thing perfectly. GRRM's take on race mirrors real world antiquity. Meaning race was not a construct. The issue of there being fair skinned and dark skinned Valaryians is irrelevant, clearly. What matters is the blood traits (the hair for instance) and heritage. The same way an ancient (white) Roman would revere a (black/brown/etc) Egyptian and consider a (white) German to be a barbarian. There was no concept of whiteness, blackness, etc.
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Bebpo

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Hey PD, was the Alicent bit in the very end in the book? I don't remember it and like with the Laenor thing last ep it seems to be another way they keep softening the two sides to make them more sympathetic and humans instead of ruthless and less likeable.

Spoiler for next ep:
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I.e. in the show are they making it that Alicent is grabbing the throne because she legit feels the king changed his mind on succession in this deathbed and that Aegon is the rightful heir vs the book being a more tenious basis power grab outting the real heir for power?
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Phoenix Dark

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Nope that's not in the books. It was the only thing I didn't like last night. I feel like she's been given reason enough to want her son to ascend: the safety of her children, the disputed lineage of Rhae's children and of course the morality of it all. Otto made that pretty clear to (young) Alicent, a few eps ago. I think viewers are intelligent enough not to need ambiguity or misunderstandings in her reasoning.

Plus there's also a Cersei type angle where she can clearly rule through her son, who has no interest in taking this shit seriously thus far. Maybe she wants to rule through him initially, do good, and hopefully make him a good moral king. Seems like a way better way to do this storyline.
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I think they're just gonna make little changes throughout so both sides are more sympathetic and it's more a tragedy war than a viscous war. I'm not 100% against these kind of changes because we talked initially about the issue with the story being that they aren't really likeable "team good guys" like the Starks in this to get behind. So this gives people less hesitance to get behind sides because they're less ruthless, more human.

That being said, in terms of toning down

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I wonder if they're going to tone down the kid for a kid assassination since people are starting to come around to liking Daemon and like Rheanyra and that'll be the first really brutal thing they do in the show.
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I think they're just gonna make little changes throughout so both sides are more sympathetic and it's more a tragedy war than a viscous war. I'm not 100% against these kind of changes because we talked initially about the issue with the story being that they aren't really likeable "team good guys" like the Starks in this to get behind. So this gives people less hesitance to get behind sides because they're less ruthless, more human.

That being said, in terms of toning down

MAJOR SPOILERS 
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I wonder if they're going to tone down the kid for a kid assassination since people are starting to come around to liking Daemon and like Rheanyra and that'll be the first really brutal thing they do in the show.
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I think that will actually work well. Based on the spoilers, S1 ends with Rhae learning that Luke has been killed by Aemond in a dragon battle. At which point she decides to go all out to win the war. Daemon greenlighting the murders may be ugly but given his...rogue (lol) behavior it's not out of line. Rhae didn't know of the plot. I don't remember what her reaction was in the book.

I think people are so invested in Daemon that nothing will really take him down. He's a badass who will avenge his step-son. If anything, I could see there being a worse reaction to his upcoming affair with Nettles next season. Then again I'm sure they're gonna cast a black actress for that, which will excite certain segments of twitter who love that type of stuff.
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Hey PD, was the Alicent bit in the very end in the book? I don't remember it and like with the Laenor thing last ep it seems to be another way they keep softening the two sides to make them more sympathetic and humans instead of ruthless and less likeable.

Spoiler for next ep:
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I.e. in the show are they making it that Alicent is grabbing the throne because she legit feels the king changed his mind on succession in this deathbed and that Aegon is the rightful heir vs the book being a more tenious basis power grab outting the real heir for power?
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To be fair, he's talked about his prophetic dream to both Alicent and Aemma. A dream involving his firstborn son being born with a crown and ascending the Iron Throne. That's why he was still named Aegon even after Rhaenyra was made heir -- Viserys already decided a long time ago what his son would be named, even if at that point he wouldn't be king.

This has been a slow build involving multiple factors I feel. Usually a misunderstanding is a cheat by the writers, but they've been laying the groundwork perfectly ("I'm going to bed, Aemma" last episode, etc.)

Bebpo

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I think they're just gonna make little changes throughout so both sides are more sympathetic and it's more a tragedy war than a viscous war. I'm not 100% against these kind of changes because we talked initially about the issue with the story being that they aren't really likeable "team good guys" like the Starks in this to get behind. So this gives people less hesitance to get behind sides because they're less ruthless, more human.

That being said, in terms of toning down

MAJOR SPOILERS 
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I wonder if they're going to tone down the kid for a kid assassination since people are starting to come around to liking Daemon and like Rheanyra and that'll be the first really brutal thing they do in the show.
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I think that will actually work well. Based on the spoilers, S1 ends with Rhae learning that Luke has been killed by Aemond in a dragon battle. At which point she decides to go all out to win the war. Daemon greenlighting the murders may be ugly but given his...rogue (lol) behavior it's not out of line. Rhae didn't know of the plot. I don't remember what her reaction was in the book.

I think people are so invested in Daemon that nothing will really take him down. He's a badass who will avenge his step-son. If anything, I could see there being a worse reaction to his upcoming affair with Nettles next season. Then again I'm sure they're gonna cast a black actress for that, which will excite certain segments of twitter who love that type of stuff.
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So are people thinking this season ends on that and the assassin thing is ep1 of S2?
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I think they're just gonna make little changes throughout so both sides are more sympathetic and it's more a tragedy war than a viscous war. I'm not 100% against these kind of changes because we talked initially about the issue with the story being that they aren't really likeable "team good guys" like the Starks in this to get behind. So this gives people less hesitance to get behind sides because they're less ruthless, more human.

That being said, in terms of toning down

MAJOR SPOILERS 
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I wonder if they're going to tone down the kid for a kid assassination since people are starting to come around to liking Daemon and like Rheanyra and that'll be the first really brutal thing they do in the show.
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I think that will actually work well. Based on the spoilers, S1 ends with Rhae learning that Luke has been killed by Aemond in a dragon battle. At which point she decides to go all out to win the war. Daemon greenlighting the murders may be ugly but given his...rogue (lol) behavior it's not out of line. Rhae didn't know of the plot. I don't remember what her reaction was in the book.

I think people are so invested in Daemon that nothing will really take him down. He's a badass who will avenge his step-son. If anything, I could see there being a worse reaction to his upcoming affair with Nettles next season. Then again I'm sure they're gonna cast a black actress for that, which will excite certain segments of twitter who love that type of stuff.
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So are people thinking this season ends on that and the assassin thing is ep1 of S2?
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Yes that's how this season will end, and I can imagine ep 1 or 2 next season would feature that assassination. It'll also have the re-introduction of Winterfell and Cregan Stark entering the picture. Forming his friendship with Jace and getting that ball rolling. Also depends on how many seasons they plan on. If this is going to be a three season thing, which seems possible, S2 will basically be the Empire Strikes Back type season of the most oh shit moments.

1-2: Blood and Cheese
5: Jace death
6-8: King's Landing falls, Otto death
9-10: Criston Cole death, Aemond v Daemon

Or they could save Aemond v Daemon for S3's opening. I'm assuming there will be three seasons. S3 would def have that "last act of Goodfellas" vibe but perhaps saving that big Aemond/Daemon battle could spice things up for it.

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I'm thinking 4 seasons total for this show, so they'll probably space out the big moments more. But yeah, S2 should be rad.

I mean this season is great already. Pretty well made show.

Nintex

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Fantastic episode.

Poor Viserys  :cry
Even after his final plea they still didn't get what he had tried to accomplish.

They did grant him his 'dream' for a brief moment though.
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https://twitter.com/moraven12/status/1579334383223590913

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Viserys was a real one. (I assume this really was his last hurrah this time) Throne room scene and the dinner were perfect.

Also kind of liking the direction Aemon is going. The new actor reminds me a lot of Crispin Glover and the character has that same unhinged energy
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Yeah young Aemond felt like a little dipshit and and I really didn’t like him.

Current Aemond is a psychotic motherfucker and I love it  :joker
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He's definitely got them crazy eyes
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New GRRM interview says it’s going to take four seasons of 10eps to adapt Dance of the Dragons, so he hopes they get that.

Pretty much confirms this is gonna be a 4 season thing. Which makes sense if they pace it out.
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Four seasons of this is gonna make me cum in my pants.


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Paddy deserves an award just for that scene alone  :clap
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My jaw was on the floor. This might be my favorite episode of HotD+GoT aside from Hardhome. :clap

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Four seasons makes sense but I still think you could do it with 3. Second season would basically be the wildest shit on television in years, and S3 would largely be a lot of aftermath and conclusions. Four seasons give them time to spread the big stuff around.
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Four seasons makes sense but I still think you could do it with 3. Second season would basically be the wildest shit on television in years, and S3 would largely be a lot of aftermath and conclusions. Four seasons give them time to spread the big stuff around.

Yeah, it'll be

S2 - Wildest shit part 1
S3 - Wildest shit part 2
S4 - Aftermath and conclusions

Just think of S2 and S3 as one of those shows they split a season in half.

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Seems I missed it was a cooked pig placed in front of Aemond. Never seen a cooked pig before! Only animated in a Simpsons episode. Whether an intentional joke or not, with Lucerys chuckling at it, changed my read of the scene. Slightly.

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There was definitely fuckery on both sides
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My dumbass while watching ep 8: "Why are Rhaenyra's kids mad at Aemond? He's complimenting them, even called them str-... oh. OH."

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