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Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10620 on:** May 24, 2011, 10:31:43 PM »

Can't help but lol @ this "The Rock and Diesel are gonna bring action movies back!!11" shit. Yea right. They're cool guys but they can't change Hollywood's obsession with girly men dominating action flicks. Or the lack of good writing in modern action flicks, not to mention the constant over blown effects/forced action shit.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #10621 on:** May 24, 2011, 10:44:40 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 24, 2011, 10:31:43 PM

Or the lack of good writing in modern action flicks

With you until there - in what way did the 80s Golden Years have anything close to good writing?

Probably the last (first) star-fueled stoopid action movie with good writing was James Cameron's

True Lies.

The more important point is that though it might've been their heyday, if 98.8% of any 80s action movie came out today they'd be DTV laughed off the mancave hdtv screen.

Mupepe · « **Reply #10622 on:** May 25, 2011, 12:33:18 PM »

80's action movies are good for the cheese, gratuitous violence, absurd plots and nostalgia. Nothing more. Nothing less. People hold them up as some bastion of action filmmaking when they're very clearly B films at their best and C films on average.

Himu · « **Reply #10623 on:** May 25, 2011, 12:49:08 PM »

Quote from: Mamacint on May 24, 2011, 10:44:40 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 24, 2011, 10:31:43 PM
Or the lack of good writing in modern action flicks

With you until there - in what way did the 80s Golden Years have anything close to good writing?

Probably the last (first) star-fueled stoopid action movie with good writing was James Cameron's True Lies.

The more important point is that though it might've been their heyday, if 98.8% of any 80s action movie came out today they'd be DTV laughed off the mancave hdtv screen.

You know there's one 80's action movie that is a surreal take on the nature of American weapons manufacturing, urban living and corporate takeover. It is smart while being an action movie. You may have heard of it: CopRobo?

While it's not "smart" or anything, I'd say stuff like Die Hard, are written extremely well within the context of their own genre. The movie is full of wit and charm, and you give a shit about the situation. Can't say the same for a lot of today's action movies.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10624 on:** May 25, 2011, 01:40:50 PM »

80's action movies may not have been well-written, but I'd say that the people making them were "smart". Good heroes, good villains, not relying on over-the-top CG used in ever-larger action scenes, a bigger emphasis on being exciting and fun, and not pandering to the young teen audience. It just seems like the people making action movies back then had a much better understanding of the genre than the people making the same kinds of movies today.

But, hey, that could just be nostalgia talking.

Himu · « **Reply #10625 on:** May 25, 2011, 01:46:32 PM »

honestly the action movie that WE know it is now niche.

Mupepe · « **Reply #10626 on:** May 25, 2011, 01:51:31 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on May 25, 2011, 01:40:50 PM

80's action movies may not have been well-written, but I'd say that the people making them were "smart". Good heroes, good villains, not relying on over-the-top CG used in ever-larger action scenes, a bigger emphasis on being exciting and fun, and not pandering to the young teen audience. It just seems like the people making action movies back then had a much better understanding of the genre than the people making the same kinds of movies today.

But, hey, that could just be nostalgia talking.

Maybe not nostalgia, but just a different generation's preference. Most of the teenage kids I talk to now find stuff like Commando and Die Hard boring. BORING! As much as I might talk shit about the quality of it as a film, it's most definitely not boring. But they eat up the shit coming out now. And I can't talk shit really about the girly men playing heroes nowadays really. Seeing roided out Stallone and Arnold tearing shit up is equally as ridiculous as seeing Adrien Brody tear shit up.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10627 on:** May 25, 2011, 02:13:07 PM »

A roided-up action hero tearing stuff up is a bit more believable though. Or at least more fun.

Mupepe · « **Reply #10628 on:** May 25, 2011, 02:24:28 PM »

Well, when you're talking about believable, most of these commandos and special forces aren't huge monstrous freaks with 26 inch biceps. Totally not believable. But more fun and masculine than dainty wristed men with 11 year old girl arms? For sure.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #10629 on:** May 25, 2011, 04:31:11 PM »

I'll at least give them something - movies that aren't cynical are usually alot more enjoyable than movies that are, and the least cynical creations in existence are 80s action movies.

chronovore · « **Reply #10630 on:** May 26, 2011, 12:25:57 AM »

Quote from: Robo on May 21, 2011, 11:18:20 PM

watched Tim Burton's Alice in Wonderland this morning. Dunno why - I figured it was going to be fuck terrible, and sure enough, it was. Disastrous on nearly every level. I think this one might be worse than Planet of the Apes.

It's better looking, and Christopher Lee as the Jabberwocky is great. Alice is cute. That's really all the positive things I can say about the movie.

Planet of the Apes --- I got nothin'.

drew · « **Reply #10631 on:** May 26, 2011, 12:42:21 AM »

The Mechanic

what a shallow, short, and lazy flick - even some other piece of Statham schlock like Death Race had a better plot and characters that you at least grew to care for even if only on a microscopically minute level. There seems to be a formula out there for a movie starring this guy that always equates to shit:

5 o'clock shadow + driving (lots of car interior conversation scenes) + a shady job that involves killing people that he is about to get out of + a sidekick that just met + Diesel jeans + firearms =

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #10632 on:** May 26, 2011, 12:44:30 AM »

more like =

drew · « **Reply #10633 on:** May 26, 2011, 12:48:19 AM »

i forgot to mention that i wanted to strangle the co-star with his douchey v neck every time he hit the screen

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #10634 on:** May 26, 2011, 12:52:23 AM »

Quote from: drew on May 26, 2011, 12:48:19 AM

i forgot to mention that i wanted to strangle the co-star with his douchey v neck every time he hit the screen

spoiler (click to show/hide)

you must have liked the ending then

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HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #10635 on:** May 26, 2011, 03:06:08 AM »

so Branded to Kill expires from Netflix streaming pretty damn soon and I'm so glad I finally got around to watching it. It starts out like a normal crime movie, with a hitman accepting a job from a hard-up friend and a seeming plot and characters coming together. Less then a half hour in it all goes batshit crazy. It becomes a WTF-a-thon (how's about a fetish for fresh rice, you like dat eh?) but that's not at all to its detriment. The weird shit gets and stays inventive and there's a mean but wickedly funny streak throughout the film. Not to mention that there's some nicely composed visuals.

I really want to see more Seijun Suzuki movies now, I doubt that they'll all be this much fun (its almost like watching an Adult Swim movie from 1967, only with way more explicit sex) but I'm already pretty sure he'll keep things interesting.

***1/2

The Sceneman · « **Reply #10636 on:** May 26, 2011, 05:37:19 AM »

sounds awesome! Love the poster.

I'm going to watch Tucker & Dale vs. Evil soon. I hope it's funny!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10637 on:** May 26, 2011, 10:22:15 AM »

Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on May 26, 2011, 03:06:08 AM

so Branded to Kill expires from Netflix streaming pretty damn soon and I'm so glad I finally got around to watching it. It starts out like a normal crime movie, with a hitman accepting a job from a hard-up friend and a seeming plot and characters coming together. Less then a half hour in it all goes batshit crazy. It becomes a WTF-a-thon (how's about a fetish for fresh rice, you like dat eh?) but that's not at all to its detriment. The weird shit gets and stays inventive and there's a mean but wickedly funny streak throughout the film. Not to mention that there's some nicely composed visuals.

I really want to see more Seijun Suzuki movies now, I doubt that they'll all be this much fun (its almost like watching an Adult Swim movie from 1967, only with way more explicit sex) but I'm already pretty sure he'll keep things interesting.

***1/2

(Image removed from quote.)

Joe Shishido

Diunx · « **Reply #10638 on:** May 26, 2011, 11:45:34 AM »

Nerdy scientist dude from avatar

looking forward to this and Piranha 3DD

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #10639 on:** May 26, 2011, 02:23:02 PM »

don't take my word for it, because I certainly don't want to believe it myself, but I heard that Shark Night is gonna be PG-13. Which would be tragic.

Diunx · « **Reply #10640 on:** May 26, 2011, 03:19:30 PM »

Whaaaa? that would be box office suicide.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #10641 on:** May 26, 2011, 05:44:06 PM »

The Hangover part Two

POS

Avoid. 1/5.

or 2/5 if you've seen the original just because the whole movie consists of references and exposition only

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #10642 on:** May 26, 2011, 06:18:51 PM »

i should elaborate

whole movie consists of references, exposition and cliched, unfunny gags

i.e. "you know thailand, right? that means we gotta make a cheeseburger joke"-- please! that's played out-- especially here on evilbore. And that's one of the more risque jokes in Hangover II

the original probably wasn't that good looking back, but it was an original concept at least. part two just reeks of cash-in

bud · « **Reply #10643 on:** May 26, 2011, 07:42:26 PM »

the hangover is the most overrated comedy film ever.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10644 on:** May 27, 2011, 01:14:56 AM »

No, that would be every Monty Python

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #10645 on:** May 27, 2011, 01:44:30 AM »

Quote from: Herr Mafflard on May 26, 2011, 06:18:51 PM

the original probably wasn't that good looking back, but it was an original concept at least. part two just reeks of cash-in

Sounds like pretty much every sequel ever done.

Mandark · « **Reply #10646 on:** May 27, 2011, 02:00:09 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 27, 2011, 01:14:56 AM

No, that would be every Monty Python

gtfo with that

Also, just saw Hangover 2. Worth seeing if you go with friends and enjoy the crowd experience, cause if you catch it via Netflix it's not going to stand up well.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #10647 on:** May 27, 2011, 04:47:30 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on May 27, 2011, 01:44:30 AM

Quote from: Herr Mafflard on May 26, 2011, 06:18:51 PM
the original probably wasn't that good looking back, but it was an original concept at least. part two just reeks of cash-in

Sounds like pretty much every sequel ever done.

true. I wasn't expecting it to be good, just average and it wasn't even that. As vapid and pointless a sequel you can get. It retroactively ruined the first movie for me. Now I can't look back on that with any kind of fondness.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #10648 on:** May 27, 2011, 05:25:43 AM »

watched Tucker & Dale vs. Evil. Pretty good fun but all the screwball stuff around the beginning I found really frustrating to watch. The head of the jocks was pretty good and I really enjoyed the last third of the film.

Mr. Spinnington · « **Reply #10649 on:** May 27, 2011, 07:46:08 AM »

Quote from: The Sceneman on May 27, 2011, 05:25:43 AM

watched Tucker & Dale vs. Evil. Pretty good fun but all the screwball stuff around the beginning I found really frustrating to watch. The head of the jocks was pretty good and I really enjoyed the last third of the film.

i forgot about and then remembered and forgot again about seeing this

maybe i will now

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #10650 on:** May 27, 2011, 03:08:54 PM »

[youtube=560,345]TJ90H5HCgCw[/youtube]

This looks very good.

cool breeze · « **Reply #10651 on:** May 27, 2011, 05:33:07 PM »

it does

also, The Tree of Life opened today in new york and los angeles, so fuck those places. Wide release is over a month away.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #10652 on:** May 27, 2011, 07:07:09 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on May 27, 2011, 05:33:07 PM

also, The Tree of Life opened today in new york and los angeles, so fuck those places. Wide release is over a month away.

cool breeze · « **Reply #10653 on:** May 28, 2011, 04:55:57 PM »

again, fuck those places.

trailer for Fincher's The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Rooney Mara is naked in it so

[youtube=560,345]8kOFGI0p6SM[/youtube]

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #10654 on:** May 28, 2011, 05:30:05 PM »

I liked the book, but the Swedish movie was meh. I assume this will be better because

David Fincher

but it's impossible to tell anything from that teaser.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #10655 on:** May 28, 2011, 05:42:39 PM »

The Hangover 2

Saw it last night; I don't care much for manchild comedies but a friend was buying the ticket so I was down. It was pretty packed (I'm sure it won't do quite as well as the original but it will still do gangbusters) and it was a great movie going experience.

Probably won't watch it again but it was decent for what it's worth.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10656 on:** May 28, 2011, 06:26:40 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on May 28, 2011, 04:55:57 PM

again, fuck those places.

trailer for Fincher's The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Rooney Mara is naked in it so
[youtube=560,345]8kOFGI0p6SM[/youtube]

any film that butchers Led Zeppelin won't be getting any of my money

bork · « **Reply #10657 on:** May 28, 2011, 06:44:21 PM »

Quote from: The Experiment on May 28, 2011, 05:42:39 PM

The Hangover 2

Saw it last night; I don't care much for manchild comedies but a friend was buying the ticket so I was down. It was pretty packed (I'm sure it won't do quite as well as the original but it will still do gangbusters) and it was a great movie going experience.

Probably won't watch it again but it was decent for what it's worth.

The theater we generally go to was completely sold out for every evening showing last night. That never happens. They didn't even tell anyone waiting in the long-ass lines outside about it until I went inside and tried to purchase tickets.

(Instead of waiting in line like a schmuck, you can walk in and buy tickets at a service counter. Nobody ever does this; it's awesome.) Went elsewhere and had to get tickets to a late show since they were also sold out of the earlier shows...crazy.

It's too bad that the sequel was nowhere near as enjoyable as the original was. $:-\$ Still had laughs and still had some fun, but I can't see myself rewatching the hell out of this movie like I did with the first Hangover.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10658 on:** May 28, 2011, 06:45:59 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 28, 2011, 06:26:40 PM

Quote from: Linkzg on May 28, 2011, 04:55:57 PM
again, fuck those places.

trailer for Fincher's The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Rooney Mara is naked in it so
[youtube=560,345]8kOFGI0p6SM[/youtube]

any film that improves Led Zeppelin will be getting all of my money

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #10659 on:** May 28, 2011, 07:27:22 PM »

two things.

1. What's MGM's logo doing at the end of that trailer? Did they ever have a piece of the rights to this?
2. The Swedish original is pretty fucking great. The latter two films are entirely inessential, but the The Girl With The Dragon Tatoo (old skool Swede version) is one of the better mystery thrillers of recent years. Even the great Fincher would have trouble equaling it, and I still have difficulty believing that a 100 million $ American film will be as unrepentantly sadistic (at least sexually) as the Euro film already is.

still very much looking forward to it though.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10660 on:** May 28, 2011, 07:31:03 PM »

Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on May 28, 2011, 07:27:22 PM

1. What's MGM's logo doing at the end of that trailer? Did they ever have a piece of the rights to this?

They're co-financing with Sony.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #10661 on:** May 28, 2011, 07:35:17 PM »

Less over-acting for sure. Swedes and acting

Diunx · « **Reply #10662 on:** May 28, 2011, 07:42:37 PM »

Rooney is so fucking hot! Day one.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #10663 on:** May 28, 2011, 08:23:16 PM »

Had a rainy Saturday in and somehow managed to watch 3 movies thanks to a long-ass nap on the part of my daughter. I was in the MOOD FOR ACKSHUN!

The Expendables - awful but it was sitting on my HDD, glaring at me. Decided to get it out of the way. What a complete waste. Whose idea was it to shoot almost every action scene in total darkness, underground? Some of the most awkward acting ever, as well. Arnie's cameo was just weird and creepy and bizarre. Ugh

Where Eagles Dare - EPIC Nazi killin' with Richard Burton and Clint Eastwood. Probably needs no introduction to most but it was the first time i'd seen it. Gripping from start to finish.

Ip Man - hilarious anti-Japan sentiment aside, this was the best martial arts film I've seen since Ong Bak. Wing Chun is so great to watch. Wish we saw more of it.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #10664 on:** May 28, 2011, 11:31:43 PM »

Quote from: bud on May 26, 2011, 07:42:26 PM

the hangover is the most overrated comedy film ever.

I disagree. That title could probably go to Old School, Wedding Crashers, or Anchorman instead.

The Hangover is very overrated. I'm tired of the manchild comedy subgenre. That said, a friend paid for a ticket for me to go to Hangover 2. I could see it being a movie that while hilarious in theaters (with about 100 people laughing their asses off), it could be a total flop outside of that. It is just a cash in but given how much money it raked in, it's inevitable. We'll probably see a Hangover 3 in 2013. Will probably be set in Amsterdam, Rio de Janeiro, or Ibiza or some other place.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #10665 on:** May 29, 2011, 09:18:13 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on May 28, 2011, 08:23:16 PM

Had a rainy Saturday in and somehow managed to watch 3 movies thanks to a long-ass nap on the part of my daughter. I was in the MOOD FOR ACKSHUN!

The Expendables - awful but it was sitting on my HDD, glaring at me. Decided to get it out of the way. What a complete waste. Whose idea was it to shoot almost every action scene in total darkness, underground? Some of the most awkward acting ever, as well. Arnie's cameo was just weird and creepy and bizarre. Ugh

Where Eagles Dare - EPIC Nazi killin' with Richard Burton and Clint Eastwood. Probably needs no introduction to most but it was the first time i'd seen it. Gripping from start to finish.

Ip Man - hilarious anti-Japan sentiment aside, this was the best martial arts film I've seen since Ong Bak. Wing Chun is so great to watch. Wish we saw more of it.

I thought The Expendables was great in the theater but couldn't stand to watch the DVD. I think it is a movie that is only worth watching once.

Still better than Scott Pilgrim though.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10666 on:** May 29, 2011, 01:56:19 PM »

Expendables had some awesome action scenes. The writing was horrible sadly. Way too many forced lines to replicate good 80s lines

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10667 on:** May 29, 2011, 02:23:25 PM »

Quote from: The Experiment on May 28, 2011, 05:42:39 PM

I'm sure it won't do quite as well as the original but it will still do gangbusters

$118 million in 4 days. Took the original movie 13 days to get that far.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #10668 on:** May 29, 2011, 02:29:14 PM »

It'll probably do huge numbers on Monday too since it's a holiday.

Boogie · « **Reply #10669 on:** May 29, 2011, 05:31:50 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on May 29, 2011, 03:31:17 PM

Don't go see The Hangover 2 with your parents. Shit is awkward.

Unless your parents are awesome.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10670 on:** May 29, 2011, 05:36:53 PM »

more dicks than boobs?

cool breeze · « **Reply #10671 on:** May 29, 2011, 05:37:32 PM »

Point Break makes skydiving look too cool

chronovore · « **Reply #10672 on:** May 30, 2011, 12:56:44 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on May 27, 2011, 02:00:09 AM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 27, 2011, 01:14:56 AM
No, that would be every Monty Python

gtfo with that

Don't worry; PD is probably just doing that thing where it seems old and tired because he's seen that type of gag in so many other places already -- neglecting that when the Pythons did it, it was new and dangerous.

chronovore · « **Reply #10673 on:** May 30, 2011, 12:58:46 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on May 28, 2011, 08:23:16 PM

Had a rainy Saturday in and somehow managed to watch 3 movies thanks to a long-ass nap on the part of my daughter. I was in the MOOD FOR ACKSHUN!

The Expendables - awful but it was sitting on my HDD, glaring at me. Decided to get it out of the way. What a complete waste. Whose idea was it to shoot almost every action scene in total darkness, underground? Some of the most awkward acting ever, as well. Arnie's cameo was just weird and creepy and bizarre. Ugh

Where Eagles Dare - EPIC Nazi killin' with Richard Burton and Clint Eastwood. Probably needs no introduction to most but it was the first time i'd seen it. Gripping from start to finish.

Ip Man - hilarious anti-Japan sentiment aside, this was the best martial arts film I've seen since Ong Bak. Wing Chun is so great to watch. Wish we saw more of it.

I've never seen Where Eagles Dare -- I will have to give that a shot. Tsutaya has been having a 100-yen sale on all its "old" movies.

The Expendables - I agree, the movie is very accurately named. When Mickey Rourke's teary stumble through awkward dialog is the only decent thing about a movie, and it's AN ACTION MOVIE, you know you've been screwed.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #10674 on:** May 30, 2011, 03:13:26 AM »

The tagline ALONE is better than most movies these days.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #10675 on:** May 30, 2011, 03:14:57 AM »

It also has Bavarian barmaids.

Himu · « **Reply #10676 on:** May 30, 2011, 03:22:43 AM »

Quote from: bud on May 26, 2011, 07:42:26 PM

the hangover is the most overrated comedy film ever.

No, ______ Movie and Meet the ______

At least The Hangover has some basis in the area of comedy.

Himu · « **Reply #10677 on:** May 30, 2011, 03:29:22 AM »

Quote from: Herr Mafflard on May 16, 2011, 10:36:50 AM

no doubting Bruce Lee's greatness but in terms of on-screen enjoyment provided, personally

1. Jackie Chan
2. Jet Li
3. Bruce Lee

completely agreed. jackie knocks the shit out of bruce in terms of what's available but that's not fair considering bruce is dead but still.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #10678 on:** May 30, 2011, 03:31:29 AM »

Himu, I don't think any of the genre parody "Movies" or the Meet the parents saga has gotten great reviews. We're talking about word of mouth and critics.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #10679 on:** May 30, 2011, 03:51:35 AM »

watched something called Sniper: Reloaded. It had Billy Zane in it which was pretty cool. Movie was fucked though. Really weird. There were some pretty sweet guns in it.

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