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Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #10920 on:** July 14, 2011, 01:31:29 PM »

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I saw The Exorcist II when I was younger and man I remember it being bad. It's in my Netflix instant streaming queue but ehhhhhhhhhh. Is Exorcist III supposed to be better?

Exorcist II is universally panned, I wouldn't bother with it. Exorcist III was written by the original writer of The Exorcist and is generally better received.

@GreatRumbler

not outright horror, but a lot of horror movies can learn from the slow build up of tension, dread and the culmination of an intense finale in Straw Dogs

[youtube=560,345]2ue1zbYIX2E[/youtube]

TEEEPO · « **Reply #10921 on:** July 14, 2011, 01:40:46 PM »

i find horror scary when done right which make it all the better for me

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #10922 on:** July 14, 2011, 01:47:53 PM »

[youtube=560,345]6Rf55GTEZ_E[/youtube]

Prince of Persia of Mars

Himu · « **Reply #10923 on:** July 14, 2011, 01:51:49 PM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on July 13, 2011, 10:27:09 PM

http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-evil-dead-remake-is-real-and-its-being-written,58917/

Willco

$:-\$

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10924 on:** July 14, 2011, 01:56:40 PM »

The trailer alone was better than Prince of Persia. It actually looks pretty good, not an overemphasis on action and even seems to have some drama in it, very understated for the most part. It's also got Andrew Stanton directing and writing [with the help of Michael Chabon on the later], so there's definitely a lot of talent there to make something good.

Himu · « **Reply #10925 on:** July 14, 2011, 01:57:00 PM »

I don't find ANY horror film scary and I don't think I ever have but despite this it's among my favorite genres.

I know it's not a standard horror flick but Stepford Wives is another great 70's build up movie alongside The Exorcist.

Diunx · « **Reply #10926 on:** July 14, 2011, 02:07:13 PM »

Looks like John carters to me, don't know what people were expecting.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10927 on:** July 14, 2011, 03:47:19 PM »

[youtube=560,345]5KFrrgkRmSI[/youtube]

Very low expectations.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #10928 on:** July 14, 2011, 03:54:01 PM »

A worthless remake without the man, the myth, the legend that made the original movie work.

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Wilford Brimley

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fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #10929 on:** July 14, 2011, 04:05:00 PM »

it's all wrong ALL WRONG.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10930 on:** July 14, 2011, 04:05:36 PM »

The cast of the remake just really doesn't do anything for me, as far as what there was in the trailer. It also feels like they gave away too much too early. Some of the scenes look like they're trying to fancy it up a bit too much, but they're keeping it isolated in Antartica, so there's a bit of hope for it perhaps.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #10931 on:** July 14, 2011, 04:17:55 PM »

It doesn't appear to have any of the charm of the original which begs the question why? Which we all know the answer to.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10932 on:** July 14, 2011, 05:19:11 PM »

Akira live-action film NOT dead:

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Is the live-action Akira dead, or is it not? That status has been a big question mark more than once in the past couple years as directors and screenwriters have tried to develop a new Americanized live-action version of the classic manga and anime by Katsuhiro Otomo.

Now we know that the new version is very much alive, as WB is looking to Jaume Collet-Serra, the director of Orphan and the Liam Neeson action thriller Unknown, to direct Akira.

Variety has the report, saying that the budget for the film has been pulled back to about $90m — that’s down considerably from what was looking like a $150m movie in its most recent incarnation when Albert Hughes was going to direct.

It sounds as if the latest script, by Harry Potter screenwriter Steve Kloves, is still in play. (Book of Eli writer Gary Whitta wrote an early draft, and Albert Torres and Mark Fergus & Hawk Ostby also wrote drafts.) The film will still be set in New Manhattan, with Variety describing the story only as following “the leader of a biker gang who saves his friend from a medical experiment.” So that’s all info that hasn’t changed in the past month or two.

And still we have zip for casting info. That will still be one of the big points of concern and curiosity for many. Based on what we know, be prepared for actors who are (a) white and (b) older than the characters in either previous incarnation of the story. If you’re not ready to accept both of those points, best to just ignore this one altogether, at least until there is some footage to demonstrate how it all turned out.

Can we predict how it might turn out based on this directorial choice? Jaume Collet-Serra’s star is certainly rising, assisted by the fact that Orphan and Unknown both performed well, with the latter turning up $130 globally on a $30m budget. That sort of frugal performer makes studios happy, and if Jaume Collet-Serra can keep that profit proportion while tripling his Unknown budget for Akira, WB will do OK.

But will the story be in good hands? I like the idea of Steve Kloves scripting as he’s proved several times that he can really condense material well. But Collet-Serra didn’t quite manage the deeply silly aspects of Unknown. Enough of Akira has the potential to also look ridiculous on screen that the wisdom of this choice will have to be proven as the project moves forward.

http://www.slashfilm.com/jaume-collet-serra-live-action-akira/

Bildi · « **Reply #10933 on:** July 14, 2011, 06:05:39 PM »

I too don't find horror movies scary, but I love when they have an awesome atmosphere whether it be ominous, tense, whatever. Verbinski-Ring is perhaps my favourite film, and among other things, it's because of the awesome atmosphere.

Saw was a bit of a surprise in that regard - I was expecting a boring gore-fest, but it actually had very little gore, great ideas, and a great atmostphere. Something I'm guessing can't be said for the sequels (I only sat through half of Saw 2 before switching off in disgust).

Quote from: Mupepe on July 14, 2011, 10:06:50 AM

The writing is excellent. "If you're the devil, make the straps disappear" "Much too vulgar display of power, Karras." That's just fucking badass. That makes the devil more badass than any scene you could write with cuss words and levitation. It has a smart script. That kind of shit is lost on most horror movies today and most definitely on exorcism movies.

Agree 100% on that.

Quote from: Mupepe on July 14, 2011, 12:01:38 PM

Just like my mother has said she'll never forget seeing The Exorcist. She said the spider walking down the stairs actually affected her for a long time. For us, that's tame. But it was scary as shit back then and it's still great visually.

Sadly, I found it a little funny upon viewing. But when I was watching it I thought "if I I would have seen that back in the day, that would have been fucking unnerving".

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Quote from: Bildi on July 14, 2011, 04:21:00 AM
Stranger than Fiction - damn, I really enjoyed it. I can't sit through a full Will Ferrell comedy, but he is great at playing an endearing character. Interesting story too.
Did you like the ending? Will spoiler for others.

I did actually, because for most of the movie I was fully expecting them to go for the opposite of what happens.

Mupepe · « **Reply #10934 on:** July 14, 2011, 06:34:01 PM »

Quote from: Bildi on July 14, 2011, 06:05:39 PM

I too don't find horror movies scary, but I love when they have an awesome atmosphere whether it be ominous, tense, whatever. Verbinski-Ring is perhaps my favourite film, and among other things, it's because of the awesome atmosphere.

Saw was a bit of a surprise in that regard - I was expecting a boring gore-fest, but it actually had very little gore, great ideas, and a great atmostphere. Something I'm guessing can't be said for the sequels (I only sat through half of Saw 2 before switching off in disgust).

Quote from: Mupepe on July 14, 2011, 10:06:50 AM
The writing is excellent. "If you're the devil, make the straps disappear" "Much too vulgar display of power, Karras." That's just fucking badass. That makes the devil more badass than any scene you could write with cuss words and levitation. It has a smart script. That kind of shit is lost on most horror movies today and most definitely on exorcism movies.

Agree 100% on that.

Quote from: Mupepe on July 14, 2011, 12:01:38 PM
Just like my mother has said she'll never forget seeing The Exorcist. She said the spider walking down the stairs actually affected her for a long time. For us, that's tame. But it was scary as shit back then and it's still great visually.

Sadly, I found it a little funny upon viewing. But when I was watching it I thought "if I I would have seen that back in the day, that would have been fucking unnerving".

I first saw it around 3am when I was like 11 years old and while it wasn't exactly scary it was crazy still. If I saw it at my age I think I could appreciate it but I can definitely see how it might be funny now. Especially since so much of the movie has been recreated and poked fun at through pop culture. Especially certain scenes such as the spider walk.

I also agree about Saw. The first Saw was great. After that? Booooooooring. It's like Hostel but takes itself way too seriously. I was super excited for Saw 2 but I never finished it either. It exacerbated the worst traits of the original.

Mupepe · « **Reply #10935 on:** July 14, 2011, 06:38:08 PM »

ah fuck. I've got the urge to pop in the Exorcist blu ray now.

ManaByte · « **Reply #10936 on:** July 14, 2011, 06:49:21 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on July 14, 2011, 04:12:45 PM

This is a prequel, right? So like, all those people have to die, right?

Except the dog, of course.

Bildi · « **Reply #10937 on:** July 14, 2011, 07:47:05 PM »

Now it's all too common, but I also thought the head turning would have been surprising and unnerving back in the day.

I must say, when the devil is grabbing her crotch and yelling "FUCK ME", I was all

. Pretty out-there. The vagina stabbing was rather

as well.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10938 on:** July 14, 2011, 08:33:49 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on July 14, 2011, 04:12:45 PM

This is a prequel, right? So like, all those people have to die, right?

The two Norwegian guys survive.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #10939 on:** July 14, 2011, 09:03:00 PM »

The Omen is another great 70's horror film. I love that movie.

Himu · « **Reply #10940 on:** July 14, 2011, 09:03:43 PM »

when it comes down to it, i think horror is objectively, at least on paper, the best genre. Few genres are flexible as horror.

Himu · « **Reply #10941 on:** July 14, 2011, 09:20:06 PM »

Which is why I said few genres are flexible, not that horror is the only one

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10942 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:17:35 AM »

House of the Devil was a great retro horror movie, great build up with a great pay off. Doesn't need any fancy tricks, loud music, CG, or rivers of gore to be effective.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10943 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:24:27 AM »

The game was better:

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Himu · « **Reply #10944 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:25:53 AM »

the game is amazing

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #10945 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:21:06 AM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10946 on:** July 15, 2011, 04:14:59 AM »

The Room's soundtrack is amazing

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #10947 on:** July 15, 2011, 05:28:13 AM »

Quote from: Green Man on July 14, 2011, 05:43:27 PM

Fuck that.

Dude should focus on a sequel to Orphan. That movie was gold.

I don't see how that would work, but I very much agree that Orphan was good shit. Waaaaaaaaaaaay better then I expected it to be.

Hey, didn't he also helm the inexplicably non-shitty House of Wax remake with Paris Hilton. This guy seems to thrive on challenging projects.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #10948 on:** July 15, 2011, 08:22:35 AM »

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount/hugo/

Trailer for Scorsese's new movie "Hugo"

looks downright awful.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #10949 on:** July 15, 2011, 08:35:42 AM »

The House of the Devil has been mentioned a few times in this thread and rightfully so every time. When it pay-off comes it crashes down with so much crippling force that it's almost unbearable. That scene in the stairwell

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with the door slowly creaking open and the fingers reaching out from behind it is so amazing.

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chronovore · « **Reply #10950 on:** July 15, 2011, 09:13:01 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on July 14, 2011, 03:47:19 PM

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Very low expectations.

Likely a lot of useless CG.
Tons of boo scares.
Inappropriate "homage" scenes to the original.

...But will see because of Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

Mupepe · « **Reply #10951 on:** July 15, 2011, 10:01:51 AM »

The House of the Devil was one of the best horror movies I'd seen in years. Fuck, if I had a VHS player I'd totally buy the VHS copy.

rodi · « **Reply #10952 on:** July 15, 2011, 10:10:57 AM »

I don't know, it might be good. $:-\$

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #10953 on:** July 15, 2011, 10:52:44 AM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on July 15, 2011, 08:22:35 AM

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount/hugo/

Trailer for Scorsese's new movie "Hugo"

looks downright awful.

wow - I read the book it was based on and it was great, but that DOES look positively awful. I didn't think Scorsese could phone in a movie that bad

Diunx · « **Reply #10954 on:** July 15, 2011, 10:53:22 AM »

I think it looks great.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #10955 on:** July 15, 2011, 11:04:53 AM »

only saving grace is chloe morentz

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #10956 on:** July 15, 2011, 11:53:09 AM »

The battle music for The Room game is epic.

cool breeze · « **Reply #10957 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:07:53 PM »

~~there are a couple clips of Captain America out (all through various sites and flash players)~~ and it actually looks pretty good

plus there is a trailer for Spider-Man showing with it

nvm, they are on youtube

[youtube=560,345]vdBO3uQcHgI[/youtube]

Diunx · « **Reply #10958 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:15:26 PM »

I hope we get the spider man trailer and the batman teaser here

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10959 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:17:50 PM »

Huge looks horrible. I had originally thought perhaps it could be good; the premise and set design reminded me of Lemony Snicket, which was a surprisingly good movie. But that trailer is lol-worthy

Maybe he's making the flick for his grandkids or something

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10960 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:46:43 PM »

Quote from: Mupepe on July 15, 2011, 10:01:51 AM

The House of the Devil was one of the best horror movies I'd seen in years. Fuck, if I had a VHS player I'd totally buy the VHS copy.

Agreed. It builds up tension so effortlessly too. At one point you know something bad is going to happen, but the film makes you wait longer and longer until shit hits the fan, hard.

Mupepe · « **Reply #10961 on:** July 15, 2011, 12:51:39 PM »

hell yeah. for a bit I thought I was being trolled. Like everything was going end up ok and that's the end. But the buildup was magnificent.

Mupepe · « **Reply #10962 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:47:52 PM »

ah fuck it. I'm in a horror mood for this weekend. Make lists of your favorite horror movies please

I'm planning on getting these two since I haven't seen either since high school. List others please.

The Ring
Blair Witch Project

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10963 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:50:15 PM »

Quote from: Wrath2X on July 15, 2011, 01:29:37 PM

best thing about it was it gives you some legitimate horror shit in between long periods of build up, and like you all said when shit finally goes down you're not just shocked but worried for the main character. It was just a hurricane of holy shit!

yup. I need to see more movies like this, gimme a list. I saw Rosemary's Baby last month, god it was amazing. I had seen parts before/knew what it was about, but had never sat down to watch it. Stunning

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #10964 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:53:30 PM »

Suspiria
Mutants
Trick R Treat (that 2007 hilarious "horror" movie. I think willco recommended it here once)

I shall list more when I'm back from work.

Oh, also, I saw the newest Harry Potter last night with a friend who payed for me (nice). It was, as expected, Harry Potter. Fun, enjoyable, unnecessary humor, dull at times, but still a good experience. It's not the best movie of them all, but its in the upper tier. My rankings:

DH Part 1 > PoA > DH Part 2 > HBP > OotP > CoS > SS > AIDS > GoF

Mupepe · « **Reply #10965 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:54:24 PM »

Rosemary's Baby was one that fucking threw me for a loop. That shit was amazing. It had balls. No other movie would put the ending out there like that nowadays. Execution was perfect in every way. It's another movie where the buildup was flawless.

Mupepe · « **Reply #10966 on:** July 15, 2011, 01:55:05 PM »

oh fuck yeah, and Suspiria is on instant streaming right? I'll do that too

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10967 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:04:13 PM »

Suspiria was eh. Great music, but it felt like a long slog with little payoff. I didn't find it scary, but for one scene: the quick reveal of the laughing chick with the knife.

Mupepe · « **Reply #10968 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:05:24 PM »

I've never seen it. Is it worth watching?

Anybody seen The Uninvited? Isn't it an American remake of A Tale of Two Sisters? I really liked AToTS aside from the typical asian cinema shit that irks me so an American remake seems like something I'd like

Mupepe · « **Reply #10969 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:07:04 PM »

And how is Jacob's Ladder? I heard it was pretty good. Never seen it.

Mupepe · « **Reply #10970 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:11:58 PM »

Also The Grudge? Never saw that either. I confused it with The Ring when I was younger and never had interest. But I heard Ju On was pretty awesome

Mupepe · « **Reply #10971 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:19:57 PM »

Martyrs is good shit for the first half. The 2nd half is wtf. it's total gore porn after about halfway through. Trick R Treat is indeed awesome and I know it used to be on instant streaming too.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #10972 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:22:32 PM »

You watch Suspiria for its art direction, not how "scary" it is.

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #10973 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:23:00 PM »

Jacob's Ladder is friggin ace. Well worth watching.

As for Ju-On, well, there's just so damn many Ju-On's out there. I've always enjoyed the premise of the films more then their execution, but the American versions are only moderately inferior to their Japanese precursors. At best they're pretty good but not wholly satisfying.

and Susperia is great, but I actually enjoy Argento's crime thrillers more. Deep Red and especially Tenebre are just about perfect "fun horror" for me. I haven't seen Opera yet (the implied eye violence freaks me out), should I pursue that?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #10974 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:30:54 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on July 15, 2011, 02:26:55 PM

Strange to hear people talk of the original "Thing" like it wasn't an adaptation of a book that had a prior (excellent, albeit different) adaptation.

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fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #10975 on:** July 15, 2011, 02:58:14 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on July 15, 2011, 02:26:55 PM

Strange to hear people talk of the original "Thing" like it wasn't an adaptation of a book that had a prior (excellent, albeit different) adaptation.

I don't see what being an adaption has anything to do with it.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10976 on:** July 15, 2011, 03:13:12 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on July 15, 2011, 08:22:35 AM

http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount/hugo/

Trailer for Scorsese's new movie "Hugo"

looks downright awful.

Set design is great, too bad about everything else.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10977 on:** July 15, 2011, 03:58:54 PM »

Quote from: AWESOM-O on July 15, 2011, 03:45:05 PM

Didn't DKR just start filming recently? How could there be a teaser already? Nolan works fast.

It's not like the teaser shows that much, some clips from the other two movies as a set up and then a few seconds from two different of DKR.

They've been filming for about 80 days, by the way.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10978 on:** July 15, 2011, 07:59:28 PM »

I'm down on this new movie because it doesn't look very good, not because it's an adaptation.

chronovore · « **Reply #10979 on:** July 15, 2011, 08:25:14 PM »

Quote from: Mupepe on July 15, 2011, 02:07:04 PM

And how is Jacob's Ladder? I heard it was pretty good. Never seen it.

The acting is very good, all around. The sets, make-up... so much to like in that move. But it's not really horror. It might be "existential horror" but it's difficult to qualify into a specific genre. I enjoyed the chiropractor's role in it. The movie has a really good message.

Quote from: Mupepe on July 15, 2011, 02:11:58 PM

Also The Grudge? Never saw that either. I confused it with The Ring when I was younger and never had interest. But I heard Ju On was pretty awesome

Ultimately this was a very disappointing movie for me. Less the slow build and suspense of The Ring, and instead closer to American slasher films. It's got a lot of boo-scares in it, it doesn't make a lot of internal sense, and it's largely a question of how people are going to die, rather than wondering whether or not they will die.

See the Japanese version of Dark Water if you haven't already. Honogurai Mizu no Soko Kara, I think. It's by Nakata, the director of The Ring, and has a similar burn-rate. Do -not- go to YouTube for previews, it will spoil several good scenes.

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