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Greatness Gone · « **Reply #780 on:** March 31, 2009, 05:50:12 AM »

I honestly do not understand why people hated it so much. Better/More action sequences, hotter main chick than Eva Whocares, not 40 minutes longer than it needed to be, and overall better cinematography.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #781 on:** March 31, 2009, 08:04:08 AM »

Casino Royale was a lot better than Quantum of Solace.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #782 on:** March 31, 2009, 09:46:56 AM »

QoS was dogshit compared to Casino Royale.

Hey Willco, have you seen a film called Martys. Apparently it's so terryfying, people didn't just walk out of the cinema but some had to be carried out. Apparently Kermode had to use all his willpower to stay in the theatre to the end.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/markkermode/2009/03/martyrs_300309.html

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #783 on:** March 31, 2009, 11:35:00 AM »

Sorry if you can't access the video in the US, try this.
[youtube=560,345]ATf4ewnUXO0[/youtube]

Eric P · « **Reply #784 on:** March 31, 2009, 11:38:54 AM »

that film got a recent cover story in rue morgue, but it didn't really sound like it would appeal to me and i've read elsewhere that it just reads as a 4 movies jammed together, one j-horror, one torture porn, one religious horror but excels at none of these taking on the shallow qualities of the films

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #785 on:** March 31, 2009, 11:59:46 AM »

Well it's certainly divided critics and audiences alike. Some critics' say it's a modern-day horror masterpiece, others say it's torture-porn garbage with fancy writing. Some even take a swipe at France for letting this film through lol.

From a review:

Quote

Martyrs is, according to Laugier, the “anti-Hostel”, its savagery devoid of glee and its scalpel scraping at mind and soul as much as bruised, flailed body

Well kudos to the director for trying to be different, I gues.

But the fact that Kermode, himself a horror film fanatic, edorses it, makes me very intrigued.

Eric P · « **Reply #786 on:** March 31, 2009, 01:06:48 PM »

i'll find out end of april, i guess

Solo · « **Reply #787 on:** March 31, 2009, 01:14:42 PM »

Quote from: Willco on March 31, 2009, 08:04:08 AM

Casino Royale was a lot better than Quantum of Solace.

CR is better, no doubt, but I dint think the gap is massive.

Cheebs · « **Reply #788 on:** March 31, 2009, 01:34:30 PM »

I didn't like QoS that much the first time I saw it, thought it was way weaker than CR. When I saw it the second time I liked it a lot more (although still not as much as CR).

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #789 on:** March 31, 2009, 01:42:31 PM »

Quote from: Solo on March 31, 2009, 01:14:42 PM

Quote from: Willco on March 31, 2009, 08:04:08 AM
Casino Royale was a lot better than Quantum of Solace.

CR is better, no doubt, but I dint think the gap is massive.

Considering Quantum of Solace was average at best, and i mean, at best, i would say the gap between QoS and CR is pretty damn big.

Cheebs · « **Reply #790 on:** March 31, 2009, 07:25:10 PM »

If I would place it with all the Bond films I wouldn't put it that low. I'd go:

From Russia With Love
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Casino Royale
The Living Daylights
Thunderball
Dr. No
The Spy Who Loved Me
Goldfinger
For Your Eyes Only
GoldenEye
Quantum of Solace
Licence to Kill
Live and Let Die
Diamonds Are Forever
The Man With The Golden Gun
The World is Not Enough
Tomorrow Never Dies
You Only Live Twice
Moonraker
Octopussy
A View To A Kill
Die Another Day

Solo · « **Reply #791 on:** March 31, 2009, 07:48:50 PM »

I place QoS only behind CR, FRWL, and OHMSS.

Greatness Gone · « **Reply #792 on:** March 31, 2009, 07:54:02 PM »

Oh, and the last two Bonds have had horrible theme songs. And wrikawrek is fucking stupid.

Solo · « **Reply #793 on:** March 31, 2009, 08:19:36 PM »

I love "You Know My Name", but "Another Way To Die" does indeed suck some serious dick.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #794 on:** March 31, 2009, 08:22:10 PM »

You Know My Name made me want to rage fucking face, it rocked.

Greatness Gone · « **Reply #795 on:** March 31, 2009, 08:25:23 PM »

Nobody Does It Better will never be topped

cool breeze · « **Reply #796 on:** March 31, 2009, 08:36:32 PM »

Casino Royale was all around kick ass. You Know My Name was awesome; Craig was an awesome, different style of bond; Eva Green was hot; great Sony Ericsson product placement; and awesome line where Bond tells Le Chiffre "Scratch me balls."

QoS was boring. The only thing it really got right was having a new hot chick around, except this time Bond was a blubbering pussy who didn't have time to bang her, let alone do anything interesting in the movie. The one cool thing he did in the entire movie was flip that guy by accelerating the motorcycle; rest of the movie was a bore. Actually, the second cool part of the movie is that when the main villain fought Bond, he was just some nerdy guy who sucked worse than Bond did. It was like they had a brilliant plan to make everything as boring as possible only to say "ha! see, it was boring because the characters themselves are losers!" in that one scene.

bud · « **Reply #797 on:** March 31, 2009, 08:44:03 PM »

i totally agree with you. it's like it was just some random scenes cut together; even the action sequences were boring as fuck.

i don't even remember what it was about anymore. i can't believe they went from casino royale to this awful, boring movie.

Greatness Gone · « **Reply #798 on:** March 31, 2009, 08:53:47 PM »

Opera scene.

bud · « **Reply #799 on:** March 31, 2009, 09:01:11 PM »

he didn't even bang that ukrainian chick what the fuck

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #800 on:** March 31, 2009, 09:02:03 PM »

I liked Quantum of Solace a lot, but it's not Casino Royale levels of awesome.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #801 on:** March 31, 2009, 09:18:17 PM »

I don't get why people think that any Bond movie should be held to a high standard. QOS was watchable but every Bond movie is just teenage boy fantasies with as much sex and explosions as possible. At best, a Bond movie could be a middle of the road action movie.

CR had didn't have interesting character development or amazing plot twists so I'm guessing that that's why Bond fans loved it so much. They assume that it had a great story, or was deep, or something. Sad.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #802 on:** March 31, 2009, 09:23:30 PM »

Arvie is spreading.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #803 on:** March 31, 2009, 09:24:16 PM »

I just watched QoS for the first time yesterday, and I agree it's not awful but also not Casino Royale awesome.

It seemed like the movie kept drifting into being an old-school Bond flick which I think they didn't want, but instead of offering something else, they just took the movies balls away and figured that would suffice as an update for the *new* Bond.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #804 on:** March 31, 2009, 09:25:32 PM »

Goldeneye is tons better than QoS.

QoS was a clumsy mess. Story and character development were shit. Plane sequence was the most boring action sequence i've seen in recent memory, i wanted to fast forward that shit.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #805 on:** March 31, 2009, 09:28:08 PM »

Quote from: bud on March 31, 2009, 09:01:11 PM

he didn't even bang that ukrainian chick what the fuck

Agent 47 said no, Max Payne said gtfo out of my bed, and Bond was all emo about it.

What's up with these action heroes? Does she have herpes or some shit!?

Barry Egan · « **Reply #806 on:** March 31, 2009, 09:35:12 PM »

I'm watching Amadeus right now and it's fucking awesome.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #807 on:** March 31, 2009, 09:36:40 PM »

Quote from: WrikaWrek on March 31, 2009, 09:25:32 PM

Goldeneye is tons better than QoS.

QoS was a clumsy mess. Story and character development were shit. Plane sequence was the most boring action sequence i've seen in recent memory, i wanted to fast forward that shit.

debatable

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #808 on:** March 31, 2009, 09:54:09 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on March 31, 2009, 09:36:40 PM

Quote from: WrikaWrek on March 31, 2009, 09:25:32 PM
Goldeneye is tons better than QoS.

QoS was a clumsy mess. Story and character development were shit. Plane sequence was the most boring action sequence i've seen in recent memory, i wanted to fast forward that shit.

debatable

Badass villains, awesome bond, cheesy but awesome action...of course, directed by Martin Campbell, better score, and an amazing theme.

QoS is a Bourne wannabe that takes itself way too serious, has shit villains, a bond that is more machine than man, and boring action for the most part. Shit score and theme.

Solo · « **Reply #809 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:29:38 PM »

Quote from: bud on March 31, 2009, 08:44:03 PM

i totally agree with you. it's like it was just some random scenes cut together.

Its totally not though. When you rewatch, you see how surprisingly simple and straightforward it is. I was baffled when I saw it the first time too, and I thought they were jumping from place to place for no reason, but thats not really the case. It follows a logical progression from scene to scene, locale to locale.

If you hate the movie, thats fine, no problems there, lots of people share your opinion. But its nowhere near as "random" or nonsensical as people claim it is.

Also, Goldeneye is the most overrated Bond movie.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #810 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:33:01 PM »

No it's not.

Solo · « **Reply #811 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:36:36 PM »

Yes, it is. Its just as cheesey and formulaic as the previous 2 decades of Bond movies that preceeded it, yet people put it on a pedestal (often because it was their first Bond movie, and they're wearing their nostalgia glasses), while ragging on the Bond movies of the 70s and 80s which are pretty much of the same calibre. Hence, it is overrated. Im not calling it bad, but given far too much praise.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #812 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:39:02 PM »

Yes it's cheesy and formulaic, but it's tons of fun.

What is QoS if not a Bond installment that is clearly in the middle of an identity crisis? Don't understand why you defend it so much. It's not good. Plain and simple.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #813 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:41:24 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on March 31, 2009, 10:40:19 PM

zzz create a bond thread.

.

All Bonds are overrated

Solo · « **Reply #814 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:43:56 PM »

Quote from: WrikaWrek on March 31, 2009, 10:39:02 PM

Yes it's cheesy and formulaic, but it's tons of fun.

What is QoS if not a Bond installment that is clearly in the middle of an identity crisis? Don't understand why you defend it so much. It's not good. Plain and simple.

I defend it because it is good. Its entertaining, the character moments hit the mark, Daniel Craig owns the role now, the writing is well above average Bond fare, the pacing is superb, and its stylish as hell and beautifully shot. It also delivers a satisfying conclusion to the arc that began for Bond in CR. Plain and simple, as you said.

Solo · « **Reply #815 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:44:51 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on March 31, 2009, 10:40:19 PM

zzz create a bond thread.

But then you'd come in there and piss on our parade. This way all the same pissing gets done, but with less bandwidth!

Solo · « **Reply #816 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:48:39 PM »

Fair enough, I'll drop this debate. It is kinda pointless, not to mention it will inevitably happen again in a few months as always. lulz

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #817 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:49:16 PM »

Martyrs

A piece of shit. Would love to read the script of this shit, "- Girl get's smacked in the face repeatedly for 30 minutes". The scriptwriter must've been super inspired.

Solo · « **Reply #818 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:52:43 PM »

I saw Mamma Mia! on a flight. Good god, did they even test Pierce Brosnan's singing ability before casting him? That shit was painful, yo. On the other hand, I would do naughty things to Amanda Seyfried.

Cheebs · « **Reply #819 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:56:01 PM »

QoS does have one of my favorite scenes of any bond movie. The scene where Bond is chasing down that guy at the opera house where it is silent other than the opera singing was fantastic.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #820 on:** March 31, 2009, 10:56:57 PM »

The whole opera scene is pretty awesome. I'm hoping they go places with the Quantum organization.

Robo · « **Reply #821 on:** April 01, 2009, 12:28:26 AM »

I just saw The Spirit and fuck me, I'm going to go drink myself into a stupor and try to forget this ever happened.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #822 on:** April 01, 2009, 02:03:31 AM »

Quote from: WrikaWrek on March 31, 2009, 10:39:02 PM

Yes it's cheesy and formulaic, but it's tons of fun.

What is QoS if not a Bond installment that is clearly in the middle of an identity crisis? Don't understand why you defend it so much. It's not good. Plain and simple.

yeah, goldeneye is actually fun. dumb fun but like I said, Bond movies have never exactly been high art.

Diunx · « **Reply #823 on:** April 01, 2009, 02:31:33 AM »

I hate Goldeneye, it was like a Roger Moore bond but without the charisma of Roger Moore, instead it had shitty Pierce Brosnan, I was incredibly disappointed by it especially coming from the awesome Dalton bond movies.

Solo · « **Reply #824 on:** April 01, 2009, 02:40:38 PM »

You are a gentleman and a scholar.

bud · « **Reply #825 on:** April 03, 2009, 07:43:59 PM »

has anyone seen the descent? is it worth watching?

Eric P · « **Reply #826 on:** April 03, 2009, 07:44:26 PM »

Quote from: bud on April 03, 2009, 07:43:59 PM

has anyone seen the descent? is it worth watching?

it's very polarizing. i LOVED it.

bud · « **Reply #827 on:** April 03, 2009, 07:50:32 PM »

thanks. you have good taste so i'll watch it.

bud · « **Reply #828 on:** April 03, 2009, 10:32:43 PM »

dude, i fucking loved it.

there are two endings btw:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

the us ending ends with her getting out (in the car, apparently), the other, real ending ends with her waking up right after that scene--she's obviously been dreaming or whatever--and the camera starts zooming out with all the creatures closing in on her. and she sees her dead daughter.

[close]

there were some really great jump-out-of-your-seat moments.

i really find myself liking horror movies like this one--bunch of people go the middle of nowhere, get chased by fucked up creatures.
what other movies are there that are like this?

from the same director, there's also dog soldiers and doomsday. the trailers for both look interesting.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #829 on:** April 03, 2009, 10:40:28 PM »

Ong Bak 2.

Asian people have gross teeth.

Quote from: Willco on March 31, 2009, 09:23:30 PM

Arvie is spreading.

Like herpes Bitch. Feel the burning yet?

CR

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #830 on:** April 03, 2009, 10:47:17 PM »

Descent rocked when i first saw it. Had high hopes for the director. Too bad about Doomsday.

Cheebs · « **Reply #831 on:** April 03, 2009, 10:59:40 PM »

Adventureland, way better than the director's first feature. The overrated Superbad.

Greatness Gone · « **Reply #832 on:** April 03, 2009, 11:01:14 PM »

Kristen Stewart's face annoys me.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #833 on:** April 03, 2009, 11:06:26 PM »

She looks like she's constipated, and could pass for a young Brad Pitt.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #834 on:** April 03, 2009, 11:07:46 PM »

that's creepy

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #835 on:** April 03, 2009, 11:15:25 PM »

Woah, the resemblance is uncanny!

Cheebs · « **Reply #836 on:** April 03, 2009, 11:30:43 PM »

Quote from: Greatness Gone on April 03, 2009, 11:01:14 PM

Kristen Stewart's face annoys me.

(Image removed from quote.)

Yeah, it oddly works though because her character in the movie is a total pothead. She is high probably in 90% of her scenes.

Bebpo · « **Reply #837 on:** April 03, 2009, 11:32:40 PM »

She looks like a horse. I think it's the teeth.

Still will see Adventureland someday because the rest of the cast seems funny.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #838 on:** April 03, 2009, 11:34:19 PM »

she looks better as a brunette:

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #839 on:** April 03, 2009, 11:35:06 PM »

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