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[Joe Molotov]

https://www.dreadcentral.com/editorials/293720/why-the-new-pinhead-hell-priest-should-definitely-be-female-in-the-hellraiser-reboot/

SJW have finally gone too far!

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Sexy Pinhead tho

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[Joe Molotov]

I'm watching more gialli.

All the Colors of the Dark (1972)

Starring Atra:


and TVC:


This is kind of a weird one. It starts out fairly normal: Jane is having nightmares after a car accident caused her to miscarry, she's got a boyfriend that's acting a bit shifty and is always gone on business trips, she thinks the man from her nightmares is stalking her but she's also afraid that she's becoming delusional. Okay, decent setup. Then she meets her new neighbor Mary who's like "You know what might cure those nightmares? Going to a black mass!" And now we are truly off to the races.

Jane goes with Mary to the black mass. Everything's going well right up to the point where the high priest sacrifices a dog, makes Jane drink the blood, and then rapes her.

Jane feels like her reality is starting to fracture, so she doesn't tell anyone about this. She briefly stops having the nightmares and starts feeling more upbeat, but then she sees the stalker again and has a panic attack. Mary convinces her to go back to the Satan cult one more time, and have sex with the high priest again and that she will be free from the nightmare once and for all. Jane does, but afterwards she learns that she is to become Mary's replacement in the cult and then she has to sacrifice Mary to complete her initiation. In a drug-induced delirium, she stabs a willing Mary and then faints. She wakes up later, hoping that it was only a nightmare, and is greeted by the high priest and the man from her nightmares (who it turns out is the cult's enforcer) who show her Mary's corpse to prove that it was not just a dream. She finds out that her mother and sister were both witches, and that she was always destined to become a witch too. She faints again and wakes up back at her apartment. She rushes to Mary apartment, only to discover that Mary never actually lived there, and that the apartment is owned by a little old lady who had left the apartment vacant for the past two weeks.

The last act of the movie is Jane running from the cult, the cult enforcer killing everyone that tries to help her, Jane losing her mind, and then the final twist...

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The cult didn't really exist, and was actually part of an elaborate scheme by her sister to get her half of the inheritance that she didn't know about. The shifty boyfriend was actually totally on the up-and-up and kills the sister after she tries to seduce him into her plan. The police arrest all the "cult" members, except for the high priest that Jane kills during a rooftop struggle. But Jane realizes the nightmares that she'd been having were actually premonitions, and that maybe her family really are witches.

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Pretty wild ride. The last act is a little too mundane and the ending was a little too tidy, but I enjoyed it.
3/5

[Don Rumata]

I'm watching more gialli.

All the Colors of the Dark (1972)

Shout out to Grails' remake of the music:

(the OG: )

[D3RANG3D]

Wasn't the last movie a reboot?

Also, Goyer is S-tier garbage.

I don't even know at this point...

https://www.dreadcentral.com/editorials/293720/why-the-new-pinhead-hell-priest-should-definitely-be-female-in-the-hellraiser-reboot/

SJW have finally gone too far!

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Sexy Pinhead tho

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In the book the head cenobite was a  though.

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The cenobites were different altogether iirc.

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[Joe Molotov]

Wasn't the last movie a reboot?

Also, Goyer is S-tier garbage.

I don't even know at this point...

https://www.dreadcentral.com/editorials/293720/why-the-new-pinhead-hell-priest-should-definitely-be-female-in-the-hellraiser-reboot/

SJW have finally gone too far!

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Sexy Pinhead tho

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In the book the head cenobite was a  though.

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The cenobites were different altogether iirc.

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Oh, I know. Pinhead was a distinguished effete fellow in the book.

[Madrun Badrun]

Did I just press play on a video that tells me it's going to unlock a trailer in 21 hours?  wtf. 

[TVC15]

Goyer Hellraiser They found a way to make something shittier than tubby pinhead

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Goyer Hellraiser They found a way to make something shittier than tubby pinhead

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=43180.msg2619901#msg2619901

[nudemacusers]

https://www.dreadcentral.com/editorials/293720/why-the-new-pinhead-hell-priest-should-definitely-be-female-in-the-hellraiser-reboot/

SJW have finally gone too far!

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Sexy Pinhead tho

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I’d actually like if he came across as androgynous, it would mirror the text more closely:

“What city is this?” One of the four en- quired; Frank had difficulty guessing the speaker’s gender with any certainty. Its clothes, some of which were sewn to and through its skin, hid its private parts, and there was nothing in the dregs of its voice, or in its willfully disfigured features that offered the least clue.

“Do you understand?” the figure beside the first speaker demanded. Its voice, unlike that of its companion, was light and breathy—the voice of an excited girl. Every inch of its head had been tattooed with an intricate grid, and at every intersection of horizontal and vertical axes a jeweled pin driven through to the bone. Its tongue was similarly decorated. “Do you even know who we are?” it asked.

Movie Pinhead is cool and all but I want erotic perversion; a cross between helmut newton and Joel peter witkin.

Btw I have no faith in goyer doing this ofc

[benjipwns]

[nudemacusers]

Jfc.



Will it even be in theaters next week?

[benjipwns]

at this rate the feds can charge any theatres still running it next week for money laundering crimes under RICO statutes

[Joe Molotov]

I demand either sexy Pinhead, 1000-y/o Doug Bradley Pinhead, or both. Do it, Goyer, you coward. You won't.

[benjipwns]

how do i get a statement from the hellboy producers on what it's like to have your weekly box office be a rounding error

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"we made sure to get paid before release"

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[nudemacusers]

[Joe Molotov]

how do i get a statement from the hellboy producers on what it's like to have your weekly box office be a rounding error

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"we made sure to get paid before release"

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[Great Rumbler]

I'm in, of course.

But the editing and music in the back half of the trailer was so bad, like Marvel's IT. 

[Tasty]

I'm in, of course.

But the editing and music in the back half of the trailer was so bad, like Marvel's IT. 

It totally felt like Avengers-esque trailer music from the first second it started playing

[D3RANG3D]

[Don Rumata]

The fuck i thought IT was about a killer clown, all these years.

[Joe Molotov]

Hells yes, I'm in.

I was beginning to think they were just going to wait until the kids had aged into the adult roles.

[paprikastaude]

I'm in, of course.

But the editing and music in the back half of the trailer was so bad, like Marvel's IT. 

I thought it was Star Wars when she said that no one's ever really gone.

[ToxicAdam]

Bill Hader just LOOKS like someone that has been haunted his whole life. It's the perfect role.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

Hellraiser could really find its lane as the only series where every entry is a reboot, imo

(coughs conspicuously) Highlander

finally got around to Jordan Peele's Us. I liked it a lot. As I suppose many have already said, his technical chops have improved significantly over his last film (bigger budget probably helped a lot) and its very often clever in its staging. Good dang performances too.

What I also hurried up to see before it vanishes from theaters was El Chicano, which is a very pulpy, somewhat silly but overall decent action drama targeted straight towards America's latinx population. Its not about anything that hasn't been well covered in countless other crime potboilers, but the entirely non-white cast and disarming and affectionate take of the Los Angelino subculture of its backdrop is quite new. Its loaded to the gills with familiar faces that get bigger roles in this thing whereas you'd normally see (this movie works as an excellent game of 'Spot the Character Actor')them, and all the macho posturing can be kinda fun or at least diverting enough until the action loaded last act. Good, sincere B-movies are hard to find anymore, so I'm predisposed to perhaps overrate this scruffy, clearly underbudgeted effort that somehow escaped its direct to streaming fate to play at the crappiest theater in my locality, but I'm glad it did.

[The Sceneman]

El Chicano looks brilliant!

[nachobro]

meanwhile in albuquerque, el chicano has like 14 screenings tomorrow

[headwalk]

1: why?

2: this looks awful

[Tasty]

That's a TV show bb

[Madrun Badrun]

Shazam was fun. 

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Not being able to show superman's face at the end LOL DCCU is a mess

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[Joe Molotov]

Watched The Hills Have Eyes this morning. It's not as good as Nightmare on Elm Street and certainly not as polished, but there's a gritty charm to this movie that I like. For some reason, my young and impressionable mind remembered this as some grim and bloody murderfest, but watching it now, there's actually a lot of humor to it. It's not nearly as violent as it could have been. It pulls a lot of punches, like not killing the baby or the second dog or cannibal sister that wanted out. I was expecting it to be a hard watch, but it was actually pretty breezy.

Watched the Сталкер Criterion Collection Blu-Ray this evening. Gawdam. That's the most hauntingly beautiful movie I've ever seen. I had to take a Taco Bell break half-way through because I was starting to feel a bit overwhelmed. The Blu-Ray looks and sounds absolutely gorgeous too. I'm going to have to watch this a few more times.

[Tasty]

Who is the audience for the Tolkien biopic? Do LOTR nerds really care about his personal life and how WWII and racism inspired him to write stories about hairy midgets, wizards, and dragons?

Christians into fantasy who feel left behind by Game of Thrones and its extremely adult content.

[Joe Molotov]

Old people who thought Poms looked too exciting.

[BlueTsunami]

Wow The Love Witch is a wonderfully dense critique of the perception of feminism. I was lured by the aesthetic but I'm staying for the writing.

[Great Rumbler]

[nudemacusers]

Who is the audience for the Tolkien biopic? Do LOTR nerds really care about his personal life and how WWII and racism inspired him to write stories about hairy midgets, wizards, and dragons?

Christians into fantasy who feel left behind by Game of Thrones and its extremely adult content.

I recall very clearly Tolkien and cs lewis (the latter being more obvious) as getting the Christian pastor/parent “stamp of approval” for fantasy secular work carrying appropriate messages. Anything else tho was absolutely haram. D&D especially so.

[D3RANG3D]

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[Bebpo]

Watched Bird Box after I found out Trent Reznor / Atticus Ross did the soundtrack. Was ok, soundtrack wasn't really notable outside a few parts, but the ending was pretty unsatisfying? Also

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Why can't the ghost monsters just walk through doors?

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[benjipwns]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/avengers-endgame-explained-by-first-time-marvel-viewer-1205734

would totally watch this shot literally

[The Sceneman]

Women cry at the Titanic’s end ...
Men do so for the  Gladiator ....

[ToxicAdam]

Gladiator? Naw.

Big Fish? Yeah.

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/avengers-endgame-explained-by-first-time-marvel-viewer-1205734

would totally watch this shot literally

I cried when Iron Man and Gwyneth Paltrow's son was killed by Samuel L Jackson.

[Great Rumbler]

[Joe Molotov]

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filler.avi

[Great Rumbler]

What's the budget for this garbage? 10 bucks?

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[Joe Molotov]

[Himu]

Anyone watch a movie they had been meaning to for decades that's widely acclaimed that you just never got to watching?

I watched Silence of the Lambs the other day.

Jesus Christ.

[TVC15]

Anyone watch a movie they had been meaning to for decades that's widely acclaimed that you just never got to watching?

I watched Silence of the Lambs the other day.

Jesus Christ.

How have you not seen that? It’s amazing.

[TVC15]

Also, if you want to know what Clarice heard when she heard the lambs screaming...

[Himu]

Anyone watch a movie they had been meaning to for decades that's widely acclaimed that you just never got to watching?

I watched Silence of the Lambs the other day.

Jesus Christ.

How have you not seen that? It’s amazing.

It just never happened.

I still don't know what to think of it.

[TVC15]

It’s basically perfect.

[Transhuman]

What's the budget for this garbage? 10 bucks?

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I don't get it. Looks fine to me

[Himu]

It’s basically perfect.

Only real problem is the typical horror trope stuff that I absolutely hate.

"No personal information" -> I'm going to tell him my name
"Don't get close to the glass or touch the glass" -> I'm going to get closer to the glass -> I'm going to get extremely close to Lector after a man throws semen in my face
"Please obey our rules" -> No!!!!

[Great Rumbler]

What's the budget for this garbage? 10 bucks?

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I don't get it. Looks fine to me

Next time put on your glasses first, granddad.

[Himu]

Jesus. If there’s any proof live action Aladdin was a mistake that clip was it. Where’s the pop? The action? The motion? Totally outclassed by 1992 Disney Animation Studios.

[Himu]

Jungle Book was hardly “live action” and....eh.

I just find them so pointless. They’re in no way improvements on the originals.

[Great Rumbler]

Jesus. If there’s any proof live action Aladdin was a mistake that clip was it. Where’s the pop? The action? The motion? Totally outclassed by 1992 Disney Animation Studios.

It feels so sluggish and small-scale, like it was filmed in a back alley courtyard at three-fourths speed.

[nudemacusers]

Looks like a guy richie film.

[Himu]

Jesus. If there’s any proof live action Aladdin was a mistake that clip was it. Where’s the pop? The action? The motion? Totally outclassed by 1992 Disney Animation Studios.

It feels so sluggish and small-scale, like it was filmed in a back alley courtyard at three-fourths speed.

The reason it feels so small is cinematography. A lot of shots are medium and use a neutral camera angle. There's almost nothing to demonstrate the size or the sheer power.

Contrast with the original.

Here, you barely see the golden camels. In the original you see rows and rows and rows. When they bring out the peacocks you see so many damn peacocks.



The original also uses the crowd to create depth which adds to his "power". Here it's just flat.

Look at the angle of Abu. Look at how powerful that angle makes him look. He looks huge compared to the crowd.



Look how wide the streets are compared to the live action one and the distance between the parade and "lesser" people.



The end result is a larger looking parade.
 
wait Disney could be reading.

Disney could own all the movie studios soon.

You know what?

I think it's just...okilly dokily!

I mean, did you SEE that transition from the green stuff to a slightly high angle of the same shot. Real riveting stuff.

[Transhuman]

Jungle Book was hardly “live action” and....eh.

I just find them so pointless. They’re in no way improvements on the originals.

Agreed, but I can't see them *not* getting remade. As long as they turn a profit they'll still get made. Hard to fault Disney for picking up free money

[benjipwns]

Only real problem is the typical horror trope stuff that I absolutely hate.

"No personal information" -> I'm going to tell him my name
"Don't get close to the glass or touch the glass" -> I'm going to get closer to the glass -> I'm going to get extremely close to Lector after a man throws semen in my face
"Please obey our rules" -> No!!!!

To be fair, it's partly the originator or modern designer of a lot of those tropes. Every bad guy monologing from inside a prison cell (like say, Benedict Khan in Star Trek Into Darkness) is because of Hopkins' Lecter. Every get the worse guy, and briefly trust him (and him live up to the deal at the last second out of some weird honor code), to catch the bad guy of the moment comes from the same place.  The whole straight jacket and face mask thing has forever been a call back to what's just a brief scene but was visually iconic. It did a lot to help establish the unshakable female lead in the face of horror that stuff like Alien and etc. had already started.

Films and everything else did these before (the prison monologue is actually a super old trope), but Silence of the Lambs was a huge hit in every way and injected all of this stuff into pop culture writ large.