Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread

[Bebpo]

Went ahead and watched Venom 2 since these flicks are so short.

Better directed and went all in one the dumb fun Venom/Brock stuff. CG was a bit better too. The story & Carnage was weak, but overall was a better movie and this one's about on par with a middle-tier Marvel flick. Was pretty funny at times.

[Polident Hive]

They’re fun. I saw the Venoms likened to a 90s Jim Carrey, Robin Williams, Eddie Murphy comedy. The sequel leaned into that. Not far enough, I’d say. But from the Separation Anxiety SNES game, there’s no shortage of palette swapped Venoms for sequels.

[Bebpo]

I thought it leaned pretty far into the goofy buddy comedy thing in 2, which worked great.

I actually think one of the biggest problems of Venom 2 is you just cannot do a Carnage movie at PG-13. There was so much cutting to keep the gore and ultra-violence out that it actually made some of the scenes hard to follow action-wise. It felt like if it was a hard R the Carnage scenes would've worked more.

Like you can tell they got Woody Harrelson because they wanted him to try channeling some of that Natural Born Killers performance in. Like on paper they were probably trying to do Natural Born Killers w/Symbiote vs. Venom. But that just does not work as PG-13. Also tonally trying to have the movie be NBK and Carnage mass violence with goofy Venom buddy bromance doesn't really go together.

Hell, The Batman at times felt like a PG-13 teen version of Seven, but it handled it pretty well and felt pretty close to an R-rating. Venom 2 doesn't even try and is super neutered.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://twitter.com/RottenTomatoes/status/1519086541313740801

dam fam

e: Just rewatched Before We Go.

Best thing Evan has done, it's a shame his career took a downward spiral with the mcu.

[Bebpo]

e: Just rewatched Before We Go.

Best thing Evan has done, it's a shame his career took a downward spiral with the mcu.

Hmmm, I like Evans and I like romance drama stuff. I should watch this.

[Joe Molotov]

Justin Lin: "What if Fast X wasn't about family?"

Vin Diesel: "Get the fuck out."

[Pissy F Benny]

Get Paul Walker to direct via ouija board

[Bebpo]

Best suggestion I've seen is let Vin direct and we can all enjoy the trainwreck.

[Potato]

Best suggestion I've seen is let Vin direct and we can all enjoy the trainwreck.

It's telling that Vin Diesel's biggest contribution to film is playing a CGI tree that can only say it's own name.

[Transhuman]

Hard to blame someone for making crap if it's making them millions upon millions of dollars. Fast and Furious isn't Vin Diesel's fault, it's society's fault.

[Bebpo]

Plus you don't diss Riddick 

[Transhuman]

He was the Iron Giant, the same material that the Mangrate is made from

[Potato]

Metal Lords was fucking great. Soundtrack was spot on and they mostly got the whole metal thing right outside of a few moments.

Cameos were awesome and the performances from the main actors were great too.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Yeah, Metal Lords has a lot of heart - all the characters are really believable, and even the bullying stuff isn't the usual cliché jocks vs geeks stuff - its just a slow escalation of peoples shittiness to other people.

[Bebpo]

Jon Watts (Spider-Mans) leaving Fantastic Four MCU.

Say what you will about Watts, but at least with him directing we would've gotten the first decent F4 movie and a decent or better Dr. Doom. Now who knows. Will be interesting who they get. People are shouting Sam Raimi should jump straight from Dr. Strange 2 -> F4, but who knows if he'd be interested.

I'd say Benson & Moorhead since MCU likes them now but they're shooting Loki S2 and I also don't think MCU plays into their strength which is their writing and so far they are not allowed in the MCU writer's room.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I think the FF should be kinda corny in a "happy family that don't give a fuck what outsiders think" kind of way, so a kids film director would actually be a pretty good choice.
I'd definitely watch a Lord & Miller FF. I'd ABSOLUTELY watch a Spielberg FF. Hell, I'd watch a Rodriguez Spy Kids style FF. Get Power Pack in there too.

The FF deserve way better than the MCU template quips + banter

[Tasty]

https://www.creativebloq.com/news/avatar-way-of-water-logo

https://twitter.com/mlbeynon/status/1519673219510194181

[Nintex]

The subtitle sounds like some sort of Chinese knock-off or Square Enix product too 

The way of water

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.creativebloq.com/news/avatar-way-of-water-logo

https://twitter.com/mlbeynon/status/1519673219510194181

Do something with that you fucking freak Gosling.

[Bebpo]

I think the FF should be kinda corny in a "happy family that don't give a fuck what outsiders think" kind of way, so a kids film director would actually be a pretty good choice.
I'd definitely watch a Lord & Miller FF. I'd ABSOLUTELY watch a Spielberg FF. Hell, I'd watch a Rodriguez Spy Kids style FF. Get Power Pack in there too.

The FF deserve way better than the MCU template quips + banter

Eh, it just needs a non-bad movie first.

[VomKriege]

Cameron is going to go where no fishkin kink person ever went before.

[Tasty]

Cameron is going to go where no fishkin kink person ever went before.

Guillermo del Toro: "Hold my beer"

*Shape of Water 2: Fishpussy announced*

[Madrun Badrun]

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales wasn't bad. It wasn't good but it wasn't bad. 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I think the FF should be kinda corny in a "happy family that don't give a fuck what outsiders think" kind of way, so a kids film director would actually be a pretty good choice.
I'd definitely watch a Lord & Miller FF. I'd ABSOLUTELY watch a Spielberg FF. Hell, I'd watch a Rodriguez Spy Kids style FF. Get Power Pack in there too.

The FF deserve way better than the MCU template quips + banter

Eh, it just needs a non-bad movie first.

I have a feeling if they stick to template it'll be a forgettable origin story - contemporary audience know too much actual science to buy them as 'science heroes' and theres a lot of inherent goofiness you either lean into 100% and embrace (like Shazam did) or try and rework (and end up with galactus as a cloud of space locusts or wtfever)

[chronovore]

https://twitter.com/ViewerAnon/status/1519115207682838528


Damn, and 7 was good too. Vin must be shit to work with these days  :'(

It’s very possible that Vin Diesel is difficult to work with, but it’s even more likely that the studio is overly focused on the franchise and second guessing it three ways from Sunday. It would be a nightmare to be under that kind of microscope from that many executive dip shits.

[Polident Hive]

Wan having a rough experience with 7 isn’t too surprising. He’s spoken openly about how much action was done before he began. The Rock had scheduling issues and was written out. The movie wasn’t finishing shooting when Walker passed. Think it was delayed another year and he was stuck on it for even longer.

If they bring back anybody, make it Rob Cohen. He might still be pissed at Vin for ruining the xXx franchise.

[Sman]

https://twitter.com/RottenTomatoes/status/1519086541313740801

dam fam

e: Just rewatched Before We Go.

Best thing Evan has done, it's a shame his career took a downward spiral with the mcu.

What sort of creative differences really matter in the FF series?

Vin Diesel: "I think the cars should be launched in space"

Justin Lin: "No, no, they transform into giant fighting robots"

[Tasty]

[benjipwns]

Jonathan Turbide
11 days ago
Wow how were you able to upload the full Batman movie without being hit by copyright? 🤔

[benjipwns]

Actually, until the end I didn't think The Riddler was too bad about this compared to how these things normally go. He was a bit closer to accurate critique, very bad solution than a lot of these where they don't even bother. The whole trying to send a message to Batman thing sorta softened it to where it almost made sense.

[Polident Hive]

There's a great moment in that first Xmen with Fassbender. Tells Kevin Bacon he agrees with him 100% and will continue his fight. But Kevin Bacon killed his mom so whoops gotta die.

[Madrun Badrun]

Sonic 2 was good.  Not nearly as tight and well crafted as the first though.  It's a shame Jim Carry is retiring since these movies are basically just written for him. 

[Tuckers Law]

Can’t wait, CAN’T WAIT!



I feel like there had to have been an endless amount of giggling between Daniel, Al, and the rest of the production while making this.

[Snoopycat_]

Watched First Blood again last night. It will never not be brilliant. The action is mad, Brian Dennehy's sheriff Teasle is iconic. Stallone's acting is stunningly subversive. 

[Potato]

Watched First Blood again last night. It will never not be brilliant. The action is mad, Brian Dennehy's sheriff Teasle is iconic. Stallone's acting is stunningly subversive. 

Absolutely.

It's amazing where the series started and where it ended up. That reminds me I still haven't seen the latest one.

[Snoopycat_]

Imagine the legacy Stallone would've had if he'd bowed out after First Blood and Rocky

[VomKriege]

Heh... The sequels, for how excessive and bad they get for both of those, absolutely did a lot to cement the legacy.

[Potato]

A much different legacy though and people misremember the actual quality of both of those films as a result.

[Snoopycat_]

Heh... The sequels, for how excessive and bad they get for both of those, absolutely did a lot to cement the legacy.

If Stallone had never made another movie after those two, they would be called classics by the people who turn their noses up at them

[Madrun Badrun]

The bad guys was decent.

[Potato]

The bad guys was decent.

Took my kids to see it a couple weeks ago. They loved it and I was entertained.

[Madrun Badrun]

The Hunt was terrible.  Embarrassing that Glenn Howerton is in this.

[VomKriege]

Heh... The sequels, for how excessive and bad they get for both of those, absolutely did a lot to cement the legacy.

If Stallone had never made another movie after those two, they would be called classics by the people who turn their noses up at them

I guess we'll never know but I'll just say that he didn't direct neither Rocky nor Rambo so people maybe would not have perceived it the same in the long run. But heh.

[Snoopycat_]

Who's more disappointing, Stallone or Bruce Willis?

[Potato]

Stallone fell from a greater height, Willis hit a lower low

[Nintex]

Who's more disappointing, Stallone or Bruce Willis?

I would say Bruce, prior to his medical condition. Every now and then he showed what he could do. In the 90's he did a bunch of great films.
The most interesting thing he did afterwards was probably Sin City. Everything else didn't really register.

Stallone made a few stinkers but it wasn't because of a lack of trying.
Although you could argue he was responsible for creating the "action movies with has-been actors" genre thanks to the Expendables.
I think that in the end despite being a far more limited actor, Stallone punched far above his weight through is work and dedication. 
Even when he has a small almost cameo-like appearance like he does in GotG he still puts in the effort.


Disney flexing their muscles
https://twitter.com/mattsinger/status/1522210480403668997

[Polident Hive]

Judging solely on their last good movie, Stallone has Creed. Willis has Moonrise Kingdom. Stallone takes it.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

The all time great Aw Geez Man, What Happened To You? award is still Marlon Brando though, right?

[Snoopycat_]

What’s left after The Godfather and Apocalypse Now? Where do you go from there?

[Tasty]

[Nintex]

I went to see the new Dr. Strange.

It was a weird movie. Is it good? I dunno, it's a bit of a mess but that was also sort of the point.
The Multiverse thing is cool but a lot of it is just fan service and beyond that they don't do a lot of interesting things with it.
For a film about the multiverse it was very one-dimensional.

[Tasty]

About what I expected, which is why I was never that hyped despite Sam Raimi bring in my... Top 2 favorite directors.

There was probably something behind those "creative differences" that forced the Doctor Strange 1 director out.

This all said, I remember being very very pleasantly surprised with how much I enjoyed the original movie.

[Nintex]

It was certainly darker than other Marvel films and had some good scenes. But the problem is that good scenes don't make a good movie. The story is probably the most lacking apart from the music, especially how nothing really matters including a number of plot devices. 

The first Dr. Strange movie (although a bit by the numbers) is much better

[Tasty]

The plot was really lumpy in No Way Home because of multiverse shit too, but the Raimi fanboy in me overlooked most of it. And on a second rewatch, it actually pulls together more logically than my first impression.

[Tasty]

https://deadline.com/2022/05/james-gunn-talks-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3-production-wrap-1235018638/

Still feels unreal we're getting this.

[Tasty]

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/mike-de-luca-pam-abdy-warner-bros-mgm-1235242698/amp/

Between this and axing CNN+, WBD is making a lot of good moves right out of the gate.

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/BenjaminCrew1/status/1523067178538479617

[Tasty]

David Cronenburg

[Nintex]

After thinking this movie over for a bit I have to say that Marvel Phase 4 is a big dud so far. After Strange 2 I'm probably skipping the cinematic releases again with the exception of Guardians 3.
Marvel is fast turning into Disney Star Wars+. Just a way to cash in for the actors as the CG department does all the work anyway.

I could tell the director tried but he had to put in so many references to TV shows and content^TM that the whole thing barely made any sense.

I could sense the dissapointment in the movie theatre, when

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Strange asked if the heroes in the other universe were the Avengers, SHIELD or Hydra and they said: "We are the illuminati" in the most serious way imaginable.

[close]

a girl burst out laughing.

Same when the Asian dude tried to say: "Wundagore" and could barely pronounce it. The guy looks constipated in nearly every scene anyway.
Most of the things the movie brought up didn't actually matter so it's difficult to care about what is happening on screen.

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Wanda has the Darkold and uses the evil magic, someone destroys it and dies.
No one cares this person died but she seemed important? Whatever, turns out the book was just a copy of what was carved into a tower.

The other book, the book of vishanti is said to be this all powerful thing but it just goes poof. Nobody cares.

In the other universe we meet Christine again, Strange's estranged Fiance. All her super hero friends(?) die, she doesn't care.
Even during the fight the other heroes don't care that their friends die gruesome deaths. I guess it's the nobody cares universe?

Not to mention they end up in the most boring ass different universe you can imagine. The only difference seems to be that traffic lights are reversed (green is go, red is wait).

Wanda is this all powerful witch who can snap the neck of Charles Xavier with just her thoughts. Yet she can't keep a child from running away?

[close]

It's a confusing mess and some really cool scenes just can't save it.

[Bebpo]

The Forever Purge - Was ok, not terrible or anything. Better than the 4th one and probably about the same as the 3rd one.

I still think Purge 2 Escape From NY w/Frank Grillo is the only one that's great. They really missed out on just making the franchise Frank Grillo action hero series.