Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread

[CajoleJuice]

Kos is an awesome heel holy shit

[WrikaWrek]

Fuck.

I feel it. Machida is gonna lose  :'(

[CajoleJuice]

Fuck.

I feel it. Machida is gonna lose  :'(

welp, you were right

HOLY SHIT

[WrikaWrek]

Damn.

Machida got owned. The two punches to the temple. Too much, the guy was finished as soon as hit the floor.

[Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich]

[WrikaWrek]

Well, Shogun is just bad match for Machida.

Hope Anderson Silva moves up and cleans the division with break dancing skills

[CajoleJuice]

Shogun is a mama's boy

[Stoney Mason]

Damn impressive Shogun win. No doubt about that one.

[CajoleJuice]

GodDAMN

When he just holds Machida's head up to fucking SMASH...

[Boogie]

This ain't no fight.

One day UFC really has to start score fights as fights and not as wrestling matches.

Oh, stuff it.  How does "scoring it as a fight" change the outcome compared with "scoring it as a wrestling match"?

When you can have your way with an opponent like Kos did in this fight, you win.

Or put it another way, when the only way that Daley can land a punch is to chase Kos after the fight is over and throw a sucker punch, then in no conceivable way can you say that Kos didn't deserve to win.

[chronovore]

I'm hearing Daly also kneed Kos in the head getting up from a ground position. What's with that?

[Stoney Mason]

I'm hearing Daly also kneed Kos in the head getting up from a ground position. What's with that?

He didn't. Kos faked an over-reaction to what looked like a knee on the ground but wasn't. He has a history of phony reactions.

[Skidmark]

Both Daley and Kimbo are gone from the ufc now.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/05/09/ufc-113-post-fight-press-conference-video/

[WrikaWrek]

This ain't no fight.

One day UFC really has to start score fights as fights and not as wrestling matches.

Oh, stuff it.  How does "scoring it as a fight" change the outcome compared with "scoring it as a wrestling match"?

When you can have your way with an opponent like Kos did in this fight, you win.

Or put it another way, when the only way that Daley can land a punch is to chase Kos after the fight is over and throw a sucker punch, then in no conceivable way can you say that Kos didn't deserve to win.

All i'm saying is, just taking people down without doing damage is the most boring shit ever. Rashad Evans did it, Fitch did it, Kos did it.

It's not what it's supposed to be about. It's like anti fighting.

[OptimoPeach]

Karma's a bitch

This ain't no fight.

One day UFC really has to start score fights as fights and not as wrestling matches.

Oh, stuff it.  How does "scoring it as a fight" change the outcome compared with "scoring it as a wrestling match"?

When you can have your way with an opponent like Kos did in this fight, you win.

Or put it another way, when the only way that Daley can land a punch is to chase Kos after the fight is over and throw a sucker punch, then in no conceivable way can you say that Kos didn't deserve to win.

All i'm saying is, just taking people down without doing damage is the most boring shit ever. Rashad Evans did it, Fitch did it, Kos did it.

It's not what it's supposed to be about. It's like anti fighting.

I don't think Evans got past Thiago Silva's half guard a single time throughout the fight, and Fitch is only a few notches above him when it comes to looking for a finish on the ground. Koscheck was constantly improving his position and attempted a submission or two as well; moreover, that was his first decision win in nearly 2 years, and Lytle got his ass beat in that fight. I don't think Koscheck has looked that boring since his TUF days. It's absolutely not exciting, but you can just as easily blame Daley's inability to do anything on the ground other than hang on for dear life and stall.

[chronovore]

I'm hearing Daly also kneed Kos in the head getting up from a ground position. What's with that?

He didn't. Kos faked an over-reaction to what looked like a knee on the ground but wasn't. He has a history of phony reactions.

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Yoinks! That looks like a full-on whiff!

Let's hope no Octagon Girls lose their careers in the aftermath of this one.

[pilonv1]

This was an awesome show if only for Kos and his great promo after.

Also Matt Mitrione is a fantastic man.

[Skidmark]

This will be interesting!
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[Stoney Mason]

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[Skidmark]

I am starting to like this guy 

[Bloodwake]

UFC 113 tonight

Light Heavyweight Championship bout:  Lyoto Machida (c) vs.  Mauricio Rua
Welterweight bout:  Josh Koscheck vs.  Paul Daley
Heavyweight bout:  Kimbo Slice vs.  Matt Mitrione
Middleweight bout:  Patrick Côté vs.  Alan Belcher
Lightweight bout:  Sam Stout vs.  Jeremy Stephens

I got this for free on the internet store, probably will watch it later tonight.

[WrikaWrek]

Pretty big Machida fan, but his attitude as of late was shit.

Shogun is complete opposite, http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Shogun-Hoping-to-Square-Off-With-Couture-Next-2423. Makes it impossible to not be happy for the guy. His translator is a douchebag though.

[chronovore]

Pretty big Machida fan, but his attitude as of late was shit.

Me too; I like Lyoto from the first fight I saw him in, that Heath fight. Evade, evade, evade, and then MT clinch, knees to the head, what was it, 7 in a row?

Shogun is complete opposite, http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Shogun-Hoping-to-Square-Off-With-Couture-Next-2423. Makes it impossible to not be happy for the guy. His translator is a douchebag though.

I don't see the douchebaggery. He seemed to be doing his job alright.

[WrikaWrek]

Pretty big Machida fan, but his attitude as of late was shit.

Me too; I like Lyoto from the first fight I saw him in, that Heath fight. Evade, evade, evade, and then MT clinch, knees to the head, what was it, 7 in a row?

Shogun is complete opposite, http://www.sherdog.com/videos/recent/Shogun-Hoping-to-Square-Off-With-Couture-Next-2423. Makes it impossible to not be happy for the guy. His translator is a douchebag though.

I don't see the douchebaggery. He seemed to be doing his job alright.

Not in that video, that video was more to show Shogun happy face. In the countdown, in other interviews, the guy is too full of himself.

[chronovore]

Yeah, a lot of people who get caught up in the entourage rarely realize that it isn't about them.

[Bloodwake]

113 > 112, that's for sure.

Well, Shogun definitely won the belt he should've had months back. Good for him, and in the first fucking round too!

[Stoney Mason]

Not an especially great slate of fights but there is a Strikeforce on Showtime card tonight.

Heavyweight Championship bout:  Alistair Overeem (c) vs.  Brett Rogers
Heavyweight bout:  Andrei Arlovski vs.  Antonio Silva
Middleweight bout:  Ronaldo Souza vs.  Joey Villaseñor
Light Heavyweight bout:  Roger Gracie vs.  Kevin Randleman
Light Heavyweight bout:  Rafael Cavalcante vs.  Antwain Britt

[OptimoPeach]

I will be absolutely shocked if Rogers doesn't leave the cage on a stretcher, but nothing would make me happier than to see Rogers somehow win and walk away with the title, meaning Strikeforce would be stuck with Fedor vs Rogers 2 -- and it would serve them right for letting the Russians bend them over like they have.

Couldn't be any less interested in Arlovski vs Antonio Silva.

Randleman is gonna get choked out, probably in under 3 minutes

edit: I forgot that Jacare is on the card as well!

[WrikaWrek]

Rogers packs a punchers chance, but Ubereem just seems like he has the tools to K.O Rogers.

[OptimoPeach]

Heh I liked Overeem calling out Fedor's posse at the end. Hopefully Fedor isn't too far over the hill to beat that ass

[Stoney Mason]

Just watched the Strikeforce Card. Arlovski as usual disappoints. Dude has a lot of talent but very rarely shows it.

Overeem versus Rogers was a mauling as I expected. It's weird that we have to wait for a Werdum/Fedor fight which will be a foregone conclusion instead of Overeem/Fedor right away but whatever I guess. 

[pilonv1]

I can't get excited for Strikeforce. I will admit I was into the Cung Le/Shamrock fight, but that's about it. There's no depth of talent and no fights that get me excited.

[Skidmark]

http://www.bjpenn.com/video/rampage-and-evans-go-off-on
 

[BamYouHaveAids]

I can't get excited for Strikeforce. I will admit I was into the Cung Le/Shamrock fight, but that's about it. There's no depth of talent and no fights that get me excited.

good fights are good fights. heavy artillery was better than the last couple ufcs.

overeem going king kong and sending a 280 pound man airborne

[Stoney Mason]

Tonight is black on black crime.

Main card
Light Heavyweight bout:  Quinton Jackson vs.  Rashad Evans
Middleweight bout:  Michael Bisping vs.  Dan Miller
Heavyweight bout:  Todd Duffee vs.  Mike Russow
Light Heavyweight bout:  Antônio Rogério Nogueira vs.  Jason Brilz
Welterweight bout:  Diego Sanchez vs.  John Hathaway

Preliminary card (Spike TV)
Welterweight bout:  Amir Sadollah vs.  Dong Hyun Kim
Lightweight bout:  Efrain Escudero vs.  Dan Lauzon

[WrikaWrek]

Feeling it again.

Rampage is gonna beat Rashad.

[OptimoPeach]

Have to agree.

I'm not really pulling for anyone on this card, though. Just hope there's some good finishes. Nick Diaz winning last night was enough to sate me, even if that dipshit ref did ruin Sakuraba's chance at collecting another Gracie skull

[WrikaWrek]

The future of UFC ladies and gentlemen.

Dry humping

[Stoney Mason]

To be fair I give Rashad props. Those first two rounds were typical boring ass lame evans but the third round he really showed up. He took a hard shoot. And then came back and dominated Rampage. No shame in that imo.

[OptimoPeach]

Meh. Oh well. Barring 5 rounds of LNP, Shogun should annihilate him.

At least Rampage had an excuse for looking shitty. Did Big Nog fill in for his little brother? Because that's the only logical explanation I can think of for that performance.

[Stoney Mason]

Not an especially good card tonight but a card is a card I guess...

Light Heavyweight bout:  Chuck Liddell vs.  Rich Franklin
Heavyweight bout:  Mirko Filipović vs.  Pat Barry
Welterweight bout:  Paulo Thiago vs.  Martin Kampmann
Heavyweight bout:  Ben Rothwell vs.  Gilbert Yvel
Welterweight bout:  Carlos Condit vs.  Rory MacDonald

Preliminary card (Spike TV)
Lightweight bout:  Tyson Griffin vs.  Evan Dunham
Lightweight bout:  Mac Danzig vs.  Matt Wiman

[chronovore]

I'm anxious to see if CroCop can exit with any dignity left, i.e. win.

He's a tough guy, sure, but he really appears to have failed to adapt to the UFC.

[OptimoPeach]

I have a really bad feeling that he's gonna get demolished

[chronovore]

I think that's why they chose Barry. When the UFC wants to send someone out the door, they go big. Tito vs. Lyoto? C'mon!

[Stoney Mason]

Honestly I don't even understand why Crocop is still fighting. There is no way he is ever going to be capable of making another title run. And his UFC stint has been mostly embarrassing.

[OptimoPeach]

Man I'm so happy for Crocop

[Stoney Mason]

I'm happy because he's a legend and its always nice to see legends win but dude really needs to retire. He still looked pretty bad for a lot of that fight.

This would be a perfect win for him to retire on. But I know he won't.

[OptimoPeach]

Yeah I'm interested to see what happens after this -- especially after he was all like "Hey Dana I know you're stingy but I'm expecting that fight bonus, thanks"

[Stoney Mason]

Chuck should win here...

But I'm rooting for Franklin. Always one of my favorite fighters and one of the classiest MMA guys.

[OptimoPeach]

Say what you want about Mirko needing to hang it up, but I will never EVER get tired of watching Chuck get KTFO

[Stoney Mason]

FUCK YEAH!!!!


ACE!!!

[Stoney Mason]

Maybe they actually give Ace some respect and stop scheduling him in these half ass catch weights and last minute fights.

He's never gonna be the LHW champ but he deserves a bit more respect than they've showed him.

[OptimoPeach]

Funny how it's always these shitty looking cards that end up being the best

edit: Yeah he's kinda been the redheaded stepchild ever since Anderson demolished him twice. He could at the very least be a consistent gatekeeper

[Stoney Mason]

The sad bit for chuck is that he was actually looking pretty good until then. He did a takedown. He was using his kicks. I was kinda impressed.

But his chin is just gone. That didn't even look like an especially hard punch from Franklin but once it connected it was like Chuck had been hit with dynamite.

Despite all of Rogan's talk I doubt he is retiring. I still see a Chuck/Tito fight somewhere down the road.

[Stoney Mason]

[Bloodwake]

Yeah, this ended up being a pretty good PPV. All the fights went to the third round (didn't watch the preliminaries) except for Franklin and Chuck, but that still was a good fight. Chuck looked good, he even broke Rich Franklin's arm with one of those kicks. Still, about the only other fight I would want to see from Chuck would be against Tito one more time.

[OptimoPeach]

Man that lip is fucked

[OptimoPeach]

Someone on Sherdog just brought up the possibility of Mirko vs Nogueira 2. I would actually want to see that.

I'd have no problem with the UFC keeping their over-the-hill legends around to fight each other if they didn't constantly make them the main events on PPV. They should do UFC: Senior Circuit cards on Spike

[Stoney Mason]

The UFC is in a slightly weird position in that they have a lot of old ass fighters who can't contend for titles anymore but who are fan favorites from the "good old days" and people still like to see them fight. They almost could run a seniors circuit at least for the LHW and HW division.

[chronovore]

Yeah, I never know if I'm cheering for Rich because he's a self-made talent, or because he's a smart, nice guy. Getting knocked out by The Spider isn't much of a knock against him, looking back now across Silva's record.