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« Reply #960 on: September 28, 2011, 11:33:22 AM »
oh god i just read the io9 article.  wtf? Between Batwoman, Catwoman and now this Starfire shit what the hell is DC thinking with their female characters?  At least Supergirl and Wonder Woman weren't obnoxiously sexual.

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« Reply #961 on: September 28, 2011, 11:40:28 AM »
Batgirl isnt bad either, and Batwoman wasnt bad but the first issue was snore. As long as supergirl isnt trying to get nailed every 5 minutes and isnt a fucking whiner like in her last series i'll be ok with it.
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« Reply #962 on: September 28, 2011, 11:42:54 AM »
There was no sexuality in Supergirl.  And the actual issue was pretty good too IMO.  And Batwoman wasn't that bad but it gave my the vibe that they're going to try to play up the sex angle with her.  Batgirl was also sexless.  w00t.

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« Reply #963 on: September 28, 2011, 11:45:17 AM »
I dunno Batwoman was always kinda weird- and by comparison any sex vibe from Batwoman is super tiny compared to Catwoman and Starfire.
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« Reply #964 on: September 28, 2011, 12:44:40 PM »
Batwoman, Batgirl Wonder Woman and Supergirl are all strong women without one trace of sexuality in their books. Hell, Batwoman is a LESBIAN.

Anyways, I picked up this week's haul:

Superman
Flash
Amazing Spider-Man
Cloak and Dagger 1 and 2 :rock
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Justice League Dark
andddd some Daredevil

I caught up on Spider Island last night so I just jumped into Amazing Spider-Man 670. I actually KIND of like the current arc, Spider Island - it's certainly a fun premise - even if I feel like the writers don't really GET Spider-Man or why he's appealing. Also the art is faux anime TRASH but today's issue is pretty gewd.
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« Reply #965 on: September 28, 2011, 12:51:55 PM »


:rofl
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« Reply #966 on: September 28, 2011, 12:59:53 PM »
I know there's other points being made and it's not just the clothing, but it's kinda funny how she posts pictures of her daughter with funnybooks featuring scantily-clad Starfire and Supergirl, pre-reboot.

Article aside, i think it has more to do with Starfire wantin SEX, and LOTS OF IT. Its just creepy.

I guess, although is from one of the comics Starfire was in, pre-reboot:

http://readrant.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/starfire-is-still-naked.jpg

So it seems like Lobdell took the character's personality and dialed it up one too many notches.  And you're right...it is creepy.  I have no problem with scantily-clad characters and with sex in comics, but that book just did it all wrong.  See something like Empowered on how to do that right.
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« Reply #967 on: September 28, 2011, 01:00:44 PM »
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:rofl

While this makes a good point, they are showing the cartoon Teen Titans Go version of the character.
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« Reply #968 on: September 28, 2011, 01:01:00 PM »
Scott Lobdell :yuck
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« Reply #969 on: September 28, 2011, 01:03:29 PM »
Scott Lobdell :yuck

Wonder if he's gonna get canned after all this, although if people are BUYING the book to see how messed up it is, maybe not.   :lol
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« Reply #970 on: September 28, 2011, 01:12:12 PM »
I was going to get Teen Titans today at the store but they ran out. I asked how it was since Lobdell wrote and the dude said it's actually good, unlike Red Hood.

And to be fair, half of what's wrong with Red Hood is the artist depiction of Starfire.
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« Reply #971 on: September 28, 2011, 01:16:36 PM »
less beach scenes more super hero-ing
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« Reply #972 on: September 28, 2011, 01:21:01 PM »
I was going to get Teen Titans today at the store but they ran out. I asked how it was since Lobdell wrote and the dude said it's actually good, unlike Red Hood.

And to be fair, half of what's wrong with Red Hood is the artist depiction of Starfire.

Nah, it's the writing.  The artist was being told to depict her like that.
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« Reply #973 on: September 28, 2011, 01:21:34 PM »
less beach scenes more super hero-ing


There was "super hero-ing" in that comic?   ???
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« Reply #974 on: September 28, 2011, 01:27:25 PM »
im sayin there needs to be more, of the none...errr- im sayin they should cancel that series now- actually. Wtf red robin red hood hamburgers gimme good ol nightwing amirite wtfff robin? :*(
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« Reply #975 on: September 28, 2011, 03:01:33 PM »
REALLY liked Superman #1.
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« Reply #976 on: September 28, 2011, 03:03:07 PM »
I won't be reading my copy of Superman until tomorrow :(


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« Reply #977 on: September 28, 2011, 03:04:08 PM »
I just hate the dumb t-shirt n jeans, or is that just action comics
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« Reply #978 on: September 28, 2011, 03:05:03 PM »
That's just in Action Comics. I find the jeans refreshing for a super hero. I love that costume.

Aquaman is great.

About to read Flash and Justice League Dark.
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« Reply #979 on: September 28, 2011, 03:05:38 PM »
its a dumb costume shut up- ill check out Superman #1 then
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« Reply #980 on: September 28, 2011, 03:08:40 PM »
Word of warning, Superman is really really dense. Lots of dialogue.
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« Reply #981 on: September 28, 2011, 03:09:07 PM »
:bow Levi's :bow2

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« Reply #982 on: September 28, 2011, 03:11:07 PM »
haha, those crappy levi commercials have come full circle

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« Reply #983 on: September 28, 2011, 03:14:15 PM »
fuuuuuuu punch some shit superman!
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« Reply #984 on: September 28, 2011, 03:17:27 PM »
its a dumb costume shut up- ill check out Superman #1 then

It's fine for now, since it's just showing that he's an amateur superhero and doesn't even have the uniform yet!
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« Reply #985 on: September 28, 2011, 03:56:08 PM »
Is anyone going to check out Holy Terror?

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« Reply #986 on: September 28, 2011, 03:57:00 PM »
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« Reply #987 on: September 28, 2011, 03:57:42 PM »
 :lol :lol :lol :lol

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« Reply #988 on: September 28, 2011, 03:59:29 PM »
No way thats real hahah wtffffffffffffff
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« Reply #989 on: September 28, 2011, 04:04:27 PM »
The biggest flaw with that cover is that they got Red Robin's costume wrong.  Still could easily be passed off for the real thing, haha.
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« Reply #990 on: September 28, 2011, 04:13:04 PM »
:lol

Is anyone going to check out Holy Terror?

I'm torrenting this week's 52 lineup so I'll see how it is for you.
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« Reply #991 on: September 28, 2011, 04:17:11 PM »
I heard it's pretty much racist garbage with some nice art.

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« Reply #992 on: September 28, 2011, 04:19:24 PM »
:o AQUAMAN IS GREAT :o
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« Reply #993 on: September 28, 2011, 04:30:27 PM »
I don't have the tools at work to do this justice.  Someone photoshop Catwoman #1 or Red Hood #1 on there!

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« Reply #994 on: September 28, 2011, 04:44:37 PM »
I know there's other points being made and it's not just the clothing, but it's kinda funny how she posts pictures of her daughter with funnybooks featuring scantily-clad Starfire and Supergirl, pre-reboot.

Article aside, i think it has more to do with Starfire wantin SEX, and LOTS OF IT. Its just creepy.

I guess, although is from one of the comics Starfire was in, pre-reboot:

http://readrant.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/starfire-is-still-naked.jpg

So it seems like Lobdell took the character's personality and dialed it up one too many notches.  And you're right...it is creepy.  I have no problem with scantily-clad characters and with sex in comics, but that book just did it all wrong.  See something like Empowered on how to do that right.

Yeah, I mean Starfire has always been an eye candy character, but at least before she had friends and feelings and stuff. She had sex with Dick Grayson when they were dating, but that was it, she wasn't sleeping around with the entire team. And she wasn't like "Ho hum, I'm bored let's kill some bad guys/have sex, what was your name again?" I don't know whether it's more insulting to women, or to the men that this is obviously targeted at.
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« Reply #995 on: September 28, 2011, 04:57:48 PM »
lyte edge:

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« Reply #996 on: September 28, 2011, 05:20:23 PM »
You should have put a Deus Ex ad on the back cover for maximum realism.
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« Reply #997 on: September 28, 2011, 09:47:47 PM »
Enjoyed Supes 1,
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« Reply #998 on: September 28, 2011, 09:53:26 PM »
I have read Aquaman like three times. Amazing. :o
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« Reply #999 on: September 28, 2011, 10:58:49 PM »
I'm getting Holy Terror in the mail. Expectations have been duly lowered.

Also getting Prison Pit 3, Love and Rockets New Stories 4, the Kamani Omnibus, Finder Library Vol. 2...crazy week for OGNs/collections.
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« Reply #1001 on: September 28, 2011, 11:36:45 PM »
so excited about Kamandi, will look great next to my Fourth World and OMAC omnibii!

so... is Finder actually good? (ducks)
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« Reply #1002 on: September 29, 2011, 12:05:39 AM »
I'll have holy terror tomorrow so I'll post something then.

So far my favorites are the dark tower and severed. The dark tower is amazing but that's expected because the books are awesome and its so cool seeing a favorite of mine so well done.

Severed is just awesome. It oozes atmosphere. I love it. So creepy and the art is fantastic.

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« Reply #1003 on: September 29, 2011, 12:58:39 AM »
Also loving the trend of OGNs/collections showing up cheap and on time in comixology. Got 'Sweets' last night, which I hear is really good. Same price as the paper version but no postage cost or waiting, or having to find shelf space for it. I could torrent it of course but I am way more likely to actually read it and it is nice to not feel like a filthy crim all the time.

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« Reply #1004 on: September 29, 2011, 12:59:43 AM »
so excited about Kamandi, will look great next to my Fourth World and OMAC omnibii!

so... is Finder actually good? (ducks)

Must get OMAC as well, fuck. Finder is great but very oblique and idiosyncratic. The mindless ones have had some great posts about it recently.
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« Reply #1005 on: September 29, 2011, 01:03:30 AM »
oh, HAT:

 if you want some REAL off the wall Kirby, Image just put up a collection of his Silver Star series on comixology for cheap. He was old and losing it by that point so the drawing is rough, the melodrama is off the charts and it is just plain NONSENSICALLY WEIRD, not to mention tone-deaf. But in a way, it is actually MORE KIRBY than almost anything else he has ever done. There will almost certainly be single panels, pages or lines of dialog in there that make the whole thing worthwhile for you.
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« Reply #1006 on: September 29, 2011, 01:28:05 PM »
The amazing final page of Batman The Dark Knight Issue 1

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« Reply #1007 on: September 29, 2011, 01:35:32 PM »
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« Reply #1008 on: September 29, 2011, 01:46:12 PM »
so excited about Kamandi, will look great next to my Fourth World and OMAC omnibii!

so... is Finder actually good? (ducks)

Must get OMAC as well, fuck. Finder is great but very oblique and idiosyncratic. The mindless ones have had some great posts about it recently.

who are "the mindless ones"? is that a comic review site?
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« Reply #1009 on: September 29, 2011, 01:47:27 PM »
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/09/29/dc-amazon-kindle-fire-graphic-novels-exclusive/

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

EDIT: Well, as long as they work with the Kindle app on iPad...which seems to still be up-in-the-air.
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« Reply #1010 on: September 29, 2011, 01:49:40 PM »
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/09/29/dc-amazon-kindle-fire-graphic-novels-exclusive/

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

EDIT: Well, as long as they work with the Kindle app on iPad...which seems to still be up-in-the-air.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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« Reply #1011 on: September 29, 2011, 02:32:05 PM »
i can't imagine this being worth while on a 7" screen

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« Reply #1012 on: September 29, 2011, 02:47:54 PM »
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/09/29/dc-amazon-kindle-fire-graphic-novels-exclusive/

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

EDIT: Well, as long as they work with the Kindle app on iPad...which seems to still be up-in-the-air.

*HISSSSSS*
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« Reply #1013 on: September 29, 2011, 02:51:57 PM »
i can't imagine this being worth while on a 7" screen

exactly - iPad is jussst big enough, 7" Kindle Fire is quite not
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« Reply #1014 on: September 29, 2011, 02:56:59 PM »
I hate these bullshit exclusive things- its never actually good for the customer
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« Reply #1015 on: September 29, 2011, 03:01:01 PM »
i can't imagine this being worth while on a 7" screen

exactly - iPad is jussst big enough, 7" Kindle Fire is quite not

ah to dream for a 13" tablet
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« Reply #1016 on: September 29, 2011, 03:33:05 PM »
LOL, DC.

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DC Comics On Starfire Controversy: 'Pay Attention To The Ratings'

Prompted by the resoundingly negative critical response to Red Hood And The Outlaws #1's dubious, oversexualized depiction of the superheroine Starfire -- in particular, the disgusted reaction of a 7-year-old fan of Cartoon Network's Teen Titans, a popular animated series in which a version of Starfire appeared -- DC Comics released a terse statement via Twitter (here and here) that advised unhappy readers to "pay attention to the ratings." The full statement is as follows:

    We've heard what's being said about Starfire today and we appreciate the dialogue on this topic. We encourage people to pay attention to the ratings when picking out any books to read themselves or for their children.



Red Hood And The Outlaws #1 is rated "T -Teen", which DC Comics defines as "Appropriate for readers age 12 and older. May contain mild violence, language and/or suggestive themes." Fair enough, then. By that guideline, the book is obviously inappropriate for a 7-year-old. But the 7-year-old girl's question, and that of Shortpacked's David Willis and our own Laura Hudson remains valid. Should a Starfire comic book be targeted so narrowly? As part of the bold and massive publishing initiative and mainstream outreach that is DC's New 52, does using characters best-known from all-ages cartoons in books like Red Hood And The Outlaws make sense?

Read More: http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/09/28/dc-comics-on-starfire-controversy-pay-attention-to-the-ratings/#ixzz1ZN6gfNVq

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« Reply #1017 on: September 29, 2011, 04:05:59 PM »
Yeah, the stated point of the relaunch was to draw in people who weren't reading comics before, but it's clear that the actual goal is to further pander to the dwindling fanbase.
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« Reply #1018 on: September 29, 2011, 04:08:58 PM »
Is DC even publishing any titles that AREN'T rated T for Teen?
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« Reply #1019 on: September 29, 2011, 04:17:57 PM »
Is DC even publishing any titles that AREN'T rated T for Teen?

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