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« Reply #2400 on: June 06, 2013, 02:00:41 PM »
I'm going to have to disagree with you on the stories.  I think the first arc was the roughest and I too have issues with some of the art but i don't see how you can say the art by Filipe Andrade is bad.  It's wild and expressive and plays well with the format.



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« Reply #2401 on: June 06, 2013, 02:36:29 PM »
No, that's shit.
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« Reply #2402 on: June 06, 2013, 02:44:20 PM »
Sorry, that art is awesome
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« Reply #2403 on: June 06, 2013, 02:57:22 PM »
Love that spread.
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« Reply #2404 on: June 06, 2013, 03:17:05 PM »
:drudge Lucifer is back in print in new oversized editions (400 pages per volume)



http://www.comicsalliance.com/2013/06/05/lucifer-book-one-review-mike-carey-vertigo/

http://www.amazon.com/Lucifer-Book-One-Mike-Carey/dp/1401240267/

Way underrated, and WAY easier to enjoy than Sandman now that you are no longer an emo 17-year-old.
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« Reply #2405 on: June 06, 2013, 03:25:23 PM »
Lucifer rulz.

I am on the fence about buying these books yet again though

my bookshelves cry out for mercy already
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« Reply #2406 on: June 06, 2013, 03:55:23 PM »
Lucifer rulz.

I am on the fence about buying these books yet again though

my bookshelves cry out for mercy already

yeah, I don't own the first run, but even so ... I have pretty much one shelf left for comics/manga and I need to make it count
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« Reply #2407 on: June 06, 2013, 04:05:36 PM »
Nice, I've been meaning to read Lucifer.
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« Reply #2408 on: June 06, 2013, 04:18:49 PM »
if i recall correctly it spends the first six issues divorcing itself from sandman stuff before just going wild in later volumes.

i was going to talk about individual stuff i enjoyed but i fear that will make me buy it again, lol.

i'll see if my library carries the old books

edit: and it does.  crisis averted.
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« Reply #2409 on: June 07, 2013, 09:41:41 AM »
http://comicsbeat.com/coloring-books-paul-jenkins-and-the-big-two/

TCJ has an interesting article up about the culture of comics creation for corporate comics right now

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The culprit, in my opinion, is the culture of the comic industry over the two and a half decades I have worked in it. When things are going poorly, the creators are most valuable. They are needed, so that they can pull the publishers arses out of the fire when creative bankruptcy sets in. When the business is doing well (and let’s face it, the Avengers just made 1.4 billion dollars) then the creators are disposable. Frankly, why on Earth would Disney have a care about a small industry like comics when their core product is the film and merchandising? They would naturally be most concerned with character maintenance

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    My metaphor for corporate comics throughout the year goes back to my days working at Disney in the '90s. I remember some of my friends working on a lot of branded books for Aladdin or Pocahontas or Mickey or whatever like kids picture books and audio books and coloring books… the gigs usually paid very well, but it wasn't like they went in to the editors' office and said "I have an idea for a Mickey Mouse Audio Book that's going to change Mickey's world forever." They just got a call from an editor and went in and pitched "Mickey Mouse is trying to mow the lawn" and a book got written. There was no ego involved. It's pretty clear that corporate comics are going in that direction. You get the call to write Firestorm or Firestar and the cheat sheet with the event of the quarter and that's it.
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« Reply #2410 on: June 07, 2013, 11:35:56 AM »
I'm going to have to disagree with you on the stories.  I think the first arc was the roughest and I too have issues with some of the art but i don't see how you can say the art by Filipe Andrade is bad.  It's wild and expressive and plays well with the format.

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The art doesn't fit a superhero book like this.  While I like the perspectives being used, I hate the way the characters' faces are drawn.  I like the covers on a lot and wish those artists were doing the interiors instead.

I'm not a fan of the stories in this book and the art isn't doing anything for me- so I quit reading it.  Isn't it being canceled now?
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« Reply #2411 on: June 07, 2013, 11:44:34 AM »
I hadn't heard anything about a cancellation but it wouldn't really surprise me.  It's very much a niche book.

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« Reply #2412 on: June 07, 2013, 11:50:01 AM »
Maybe it's just me, but I thought the whole reason for changing Ms. Marvel into Captain Marvel and the entire appearance change was to make her into a major character.  Yet she seems kind of shoved to the side in team books and they really didn't do anything big to explain the changeover. 

The redesign first appeared in Avenging Spider-Man and was basically explained as "yeah, time for an appearance change" and that was that, despite this stemming from an AvX subplot where the original Captain Marvel briefly returned.

I wonder how long it's going to be until they go back to the old look.
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« Reply #2413 on: June 07, 2013, 11:53:17 AM »
I haven't followed marvel since before Civil War, but there was enough of a buzz recently to get me to look into some of their newer books (excepting those of Bendis, of whom I've had my fill) so I'm way unfamiliar with any recent continuity.

I'm way late to this, but I really enjoyed Hickman's Fantastic Four run.  Haven't read the FF stuff yet though so my opinion could change.
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« Reply #2414 on: June 07, 2013, 12:44:05 PM »
Oh man, Bendis.  Age Of Ultron is going nowhere and has been such a waste of time.  One issue left so whatever.

Marvel is releasing a new Mighty Avengers book soon.  Looks to be more down to Earth than the other titles.  Not a fan of Greg Land's artwork though.

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It's Mighty Avengers, by Al Ewing and Greg Land, featuring the likes of Luke Cage, Spider-Man, She-Hulk, White Tiger, Blue Marvel, Power Man...and more!

"Mighty Avengers is launching in the midst of Infinity. It's a pretty key component. The gist of the opening story is that the Avengers are off in space dealing with the Builders and in their absence, Thanos comes to Earth. A number of other characters rise up and join together to oppose to what's going on, arraying themselves around Luke Cage. 'If the Avengers aren't here, we're the Avengers.'" - Tom Brevoort

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« Reply #2415 on: June 07, 2013, 12:52:58 PM »
that sounds pretty interesting.

i always prefer street level stories.
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« Reply #2416 on: June 07, 2013, 08:05:25 PM »
Aren't Luke Cage and Power Man the same person?
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« Reply #2417 on: June 08, 2013, 12:04:19 AM »
Wait, did Eric P just pull a ManaByte and got called out by ManaByte?!?!?

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« Reply #2418 on: June 08, 2013, 12:09:09 AM »
Oh man, Bendis.  Age Of Ultron is going nowhere and has been such a waste of time.  One issue left so whatever.

Marvel is releasing a new Mighty Avengers book soon.  Looks to be more down to Earth than the other titles.  Not a fan of Greg Land's artwork though.

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It's Mighty Avengers, by Al Ewing and Greg Land, featuring the likes of Luke Cage, Spider-Man, She-Hulk, White Tiger, Blue Marvel, Power Man...and more!

"Mighty Avengers is launching in the midst of Infinity. It's a pretty key component. The gist of the opening story is that the Avengers are off in space dealing with the Builders and in their absence, Thanos comes to Earth. A number of other characters rise up and join together to oppose to what's going on, arraying themselves around Luke Cage. 'If the Avengers aren't here, we're the Avengers.'" - Tom Brevoort
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Blue marvel on a team is something I've wanted for a while, but falcon brings the book down. But mighty is a black team now, so that's cool

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« Reply #2419 on: June 09, 2013, 11:55:17 AM »
Aren't Luke Cage and Power Man the same person?

The dude with the goggles is the new Power-Man.  I don't get why they couldn't find an original name for him to use and keeping him in the same book as Luke Cage just makes it all the more confusing, but whatever.
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« Reply #2420 on: June 09, 2013, 08:28:10 PM »
BRANDING!

Why create a new hero and try to lure readers to it? It's much safer to take an existing hero's name, which has some level of public recognition, and then "add heat" to it by doing something new and potentially interesting.

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« Reply #2421 on: June 18, 2013, 02:23:48 PM »
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« Reply #2422 on: June 18, 2013, 02:55:15 PM »
Cyborg Superman and Doomsday.
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« Reply #2423 on: June 23, 2013, 04:58:48 PM »
Prophet is pretty odd. A lot of the artwork is like a pitch to movie producers. And I BET that the end will be a letdown.

It's still great ofc!
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« Reply #2424 on: June 27, 2013, 01:40:35 PM »
I dunno if anyone is waiting for Prophet vol 2 or not, but comixology currently has a Brandon Graham sale where you can purchase the issues for $1 a piece dropping the cost of the same issues you'd find in vol 2 to $6 rather than the $15 or whatever for the trade.

http://www.comixology.com/comics-sale?featured_id=18192

you can also grab Multiple Warheads and King Cat on the cheap
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« Reply #2425 on: June 27, 2013, 02:43:30 PM »


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« Reply #2426 on: June 28, 2013, 09:15:54 AM »
re reading Lucifer and I can't believe at how well it holds up
also going through Hellblazer and I thought I'd read everything but there are many Delano stories of which I have no recollection

also late to the party but I'm reading Journey Into Mystery: The Teen Loki Years and am really enjoying the hell out of that.
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« Reply #2427 on: June 29, 2013, 10:43:36 AM »
i bought some floppies

The Wake 2: So this is the premise?  Scott Snyder has given us The Abyss with killer mermen? .....sure, why the fuck not?
Lazarus 1: the 1% rule the world with functionally immortal genetically enhanced operatives.  pretty cool first issue
x-men 2: much better than the first issue.  the recap that filled in the gaps on some of who the fuck these villains were made everything much easier to follow

still enjoying the living hell out of kieron Gillen's Journey Into Mystery and picked up the Ultimate Thor collection because Amazon had it for in trade for less than $1 an issue.  That book starts hella in media res, I have no idea wtf is going on.  I guess i'll have to track down JMS's Thor run.
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« Reply #2428 on: July 01, 2013, 10:32:03 AM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/01/business/media/vertigo-a-dc-comics-brand-is-rebuilding-with-6-new-series.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&&_r=0&pagewanted=print

Vertigo, a DC Comics Brand, Is Rebuilding With 6 New Series
By GEORGE GENE GUSTINES

DC Comics, which overhauled its comic book lineup of superheroes, including Superman, in the fall of 2011, is now turning its attention to Vertigo, its struggling imprint for mature readers.

Superheroes are the lifeblood of the comic book industry and have proved to be a big draw at the box office. But Vertigo, whose slate includes fantasy, horror and speculative fiction outside of the publisher’s mainstream lineup, has had difficulty building an audience and developing new properties.

DC, whose parent company is Time Warner, is hoping to change Vertigo’s fortune this fall with six new series premiering from October to December. The most anticipated project, “The Sandman: Overture,” a mini-series by Neil Gaiman, will begin on Oct. 30.

Vertigo, which was introduced in 1993, became known for developing new talent and presenting illustrated stories that eschewed the never-ending battles between superheroes and arch villains. The new series continue that trend and include “Hinterkind,” by Ian Edginton, which focuses on a post-apocalyptic world in which the creatures of myth and legend have returned, and “The Discipline,” by Peter Milligan, an erotic thriller about a woman at the center of an shadow war that spans eons. No capes or utility belts are to be found in the mix.

“It’s so liberating to know that I can talk about all these wonderful books,” said Shelly Bond, the executive editor of the imprint, who joined DC Comics a month before Vertigo began.

The future of Vertigo has been a source of speculation for reasons internal and external. In March, Karen Berger, Vertigo’s founding executive editor, left her full-time position. New concepts have struggled to build an audience. “Saucer Country,” a series about politics and alien abductions in the Southwest, which began in March 2012, had its final issue in April with estimated sales of fewer than 5,700 copies. The top DC book that month was “Batman,” with 132,100 copies.

DC’s biggest rival is Marvel Comics, which has 37.59 percent of the market, just slightly more than DC’s 36.75, according to John Jackson Miller, who tracks industry figures on his Web site, the Comics Chronicle (comichron.com). Vertigo is not tracked separately. DC’s market share has been steadily rising from just under 32 percent in 2008.

The industry overall also has been growing. Mr. Miller estimated that comic book sales were $700 million to $730 million last year, up from $660 million to $690 million in 2011.

Other companies, like Image Comics, have raised their profile as publishers for creators who want to retain full control, and profits, of their work. “The Walking Dead,” the zombie phenomenon from Robert Kirkman, began life at Image.

Although “Sandman,” which began in the late ’80s, predates the imprint, it was branded as a Vertigo book in 1993 and became one of its biggest successes: a perennial seller of collected editions, critically beloved, winner of multiple awards. “Sandman” helped shape the career of Mr. Gaiman, who seems to write in every form these days, including fantasy novels, screenplays and television scripts; his most recent novel, “The Ocean at the End of the Lane,” was published by William Morrow in June.

“The most peculiar thing for me about returning to ‘Sandman’ is how familiar it all feels,” Mr. Gaiman said. What is new, however, is the level of attention. “When I was writing ‘Sandman’ from 1987 to 1996, I never had the feeling at any point that approximately 50 million people were looking over my shoulder scrutinizing ever word.” (Mr. Gaiman has about two million followers on Twitter.)

For the six-issue “The Sandman: Overture,” Mr. Gaiman has been paired with J.H. Williams III, an illustrator known for his moody imagery and innovative page layouts. “They are the most beautiful pages I have ever seen in periodical comics,” Mr. Gaiman said. “I ask him to do the impossible, and he gives me back more than I asked for.”

The series will be published every other month and will alternate with a special edition of each issue, which will include more of the artwork (because of translucent word balloons developed by the letterer Todd Klein), as well as behind-the-scenes commentary and character sketches.


Another of Vertigo’s new series, “The Dead Boy Detectives,” due in November, is tied to the “Sandman” mythos. It features two characters that were introduced in “Sandman” No. 25 from 1991. The characters, Edwin and Charles, are boarding school students who died tragically and returned as ghost detectives. (In the new series, a girl, whose mortality status is unknown, will join them.)


Ms. Bond sees comic books as having been “accepted as an integral part of pop culture with all the TV shows and film franchises.” Among the ventures were the 2005 film “Constantine,” with Keanu Reeves as a man involved in the occult, which had ticket sales of around $75 million. She is eager to continue the legacy of Ms. Berger, who was known for developing emerging talent.

Some good news for Vertigo was found in an analysis of the imprint’s May sales on The Beat, the news blog of comics culture run by Marc-Oliver Frisch. The first issue of “The Wake,” a 10-issue series by the writer Scott Snyder and the artist Sean G. Murphy, sold an estimated 45,000 units, “the highest number for a Vertigo comic book since the year 2000,” he wrote.

Mr. Snyder is one of the recent success stories for Vertigo. His “American Vampire,” which began in 2010, is about a new breed of those bloodsucking creatures. The series is on hiatus and will return in December. Mr. Snyder also writes “Batman,” which was the second-best selling comic for May, at an estimated 129,039 copies. (The top seller was the first issue of a new X-Men series, from Marvel, at 177,633 copies.)

“Right now, we’re in the middle of Vertigo’s transformation from a relatively sheltered idea and talent farm to a much more competitive place,” Mr. Frisch wrote. “Whether or not this is going to help DC in re-establishing the Vertigo brand as a selling point, we’re going to find out in the next several months.”
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« Reply #2429 on: July 01, 2013, 11:13:09 AM »
Sandman with J.H. Williams III artwork :drool
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« Reply #2430 on: July 01, 2013, 01:58:30 PM »
Sandman with J.H. Williams III artwork :drool

I don't really see what the big dea--



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« Reply #2431 on: July 01, 2013, 02:35:54 PM »
Bimonthly  :-\
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« Reply #2432 on: July 01, 2013, 02:44:53 PM »
i'm interested in the "off month" issues i think
i am no longer a fan of gaiman so i may buy the first issue then hop off but i'm curious to see what Williams brings to the table
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« Reply #2433 on: July 01, 2013, 02:53:22 PM »
I dunno if anyone here is reading it but The Private Eye is pretty neat:

http://panelsyndicate.com/

Marcos Martin and name your own price <3
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« Reply #2434 on: July 02, 2013, 12:50:20 PM »
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St. Louis-based digital comic book Lion Forge Comics has come to licensing terms with NBCUniversal Television Consumer Products Group to develop new ‘reimagined’ digital comics based on five 1980-90’s television series, including the iconic Miami Vice and Knight Rider, along with Airwolf and Punky Brewster, and Saturday morning live-action Millennial-touchstone Saved by the Bell.

reimagined Punky Brewster and Saved By The Bell?
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« Reply #2435 on: July 02, 2013, 12:56:16 PM »
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St. Louis-based digital comic book Lion Forge Comics has come to licensing terms with NBCUniversal Television Consumer Products Group to develop new ‘reimagined’ digital comics based on five 1980-90’s television series, including the iconic Miami Vice and Knight Rider, along with Airwolf and Punky Brewster, and Saturday morning live-action Millennial-touchstone Saved by the Bell.

reimagined Punky Brewster and Saved By The Bell?

I hope they're dark and gritty, please be dark and gritty!
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« Reply #2436 on: July 02, 2013, 01:10:08 PM »
GRRM's Saved By The Bell

"Summer is coming."

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« Reply #2437 on: July 02, 2013, 04:35:48 PM »


couldn't find a second issue scan where they fight the soup nazi
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« Reply #2438 on: July 02, 2013, 04:46:00 PM »
Captain America/Campbell Soup/Dept. of Energy was one of the most highly anticipated cross-overs ever.
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« Reply #2439 on: July 04, 2013, 09:20:28 AM »
Hey Kids, Comics!

Still reading Journey Into Mystery The Kid Loki Years and enjoying the hell out of it.  Picked up the 4th trade in anticipation of needing it.  I'm finding that the B and C tier trades from Marvel are getting really difficult to find a few years after they come out.  Kind of obnoxious that they'll keep the first volume in print and not the others (as appears to be the case w/ JiM).

Lucky Luke - Vol 1 Billy The Kid.  This is a Belgian series of albums that's been getting reprinted recently.  This volume is by Goscinny and Morris.  Goscinny is better known to me as one of the creators of my favorite European comic Asterix.  This was pretty good.  Luke comes to a town that's held in the grip of terror by Billy the Kid and he out terrorizes the town to make Billy The Kid jealous.  Kind of Chaotic Neutral character.  I'll probably pick up more of these volumes

The Smurfs Vol 1. This American edition contains The Purple Smurfs (formerly the Black Smurfs)  The Flying Smurf and The Smurf and his neighbors. Good comics.  Really enjoyable and a $4 a pop on Comixology quite affordable for what you're getting; dense tales and classic cartooning.

Floppies

The Movement #3.  I'm going to stop reading this horrible comic one day, I know it.  It feels like a pro-diversity and anti-capitalism comic written by a college freshman.  It's got one of every marginalized person and the white dudes who aren't mentally ill are eeeeeeeeevil systematic oppressors.

Satellite Sam #1. Written by Fraction Drawn by Chaykin this is another dense comic about the staff of a live television serial in the 50s whose star is murdered.  we dont' get much except for set up but it's a good set up.  does a nice introduction of the series characters and the situation.  worth a read.

Batman 66 #1. I honestly don't know how I feel about this.  It's clearly designed for Comixology's Guided Reading because when you hit "next" more often then not, images in the panel change to give it a motion-comic you control feel.  It's a neat-ish trick but it won't mean much if the stories aren't any good.  And this one?  It's kind of eh.  Batman vs the Riddler Part 1 written by Jeff Parker.  It doesn't read right.  Like it doesn't FEEL like an episode of Batman 66 but rather a Gold Key adaptation of the TV series.  All the pieces are right there, but they don't really fit together into a recognizable image.  I'll give it the first storyline then probably bow out unless it improves.
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« Reply #2440 on: July 07, 2013, 06:43:50 PM »
so Jim Steranko, the first comic book artist superstar, has joined twitter and it's pretty amazing

https://twitter.com/iamsteranko/

it's mostly reminiscing about comics and his life precomics.  today we found out about how he spent 12 years playing rock and roll shows under a series of assumed names carrying a loaded gun on him at all times.  people wanted to kill him but he won't say who or why or what the pseudonyms were.  He's also talked about his time as an escape artist.

seriously.  it's amazing
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« Reply #2441 on: July 07, 2013, 06:55:17 PM »
Was he also Chuck Berry?

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« Reply #2442 on: July 07, 2013, 07:45:53 PM »
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« Reply #2443 on: July 07, 2013, 09:03:27 PM »
read a review of Superior Foes of Spider-man which made it sound pretty fun and it is.  Think low level shitty spider-man villains trying to move above their station. good comedy, good art, will probably not last that long
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« Reply #2444 on: July 08, 2013, 08:07:53 AM »
read Avenger's Children's Crusade which is really an attempt to make the larger Marvel reading public care about Young Avengers by tying them more definitively as legacy characters.  It's fun team up comics with all the two teams meet and fight for no reason other than tropes dictate that it must be so.  I like Young Avengers and I like Wiccan who takes center stage here so this book was really enjoyable to me.  I'd like to see Gillen's Loki and Wiccan team up for a story. 

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« Reply #2445 on: July 08, 2013, 09:03:09 AM »
also the new Captain America comic turns it into Prophet.  Captain America as pulp sci-fi action hero.  It's not Captain America as you'd expect and it won't last long (because the film sequel probably necessitates a "return to form" in the hunt to attract mythical new readers).
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« Reply #2446 on: July 08, 2013, 02:43:59 PM »
I read Saga Book 2 and my wife finally read Saga Book 1

SO GOOD

so takes forever to come out
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« Reply #2447 on: July 08, 2013, 08:04:11 PM »
I am re-re-re-reading my trades of The Authority. Ellis nails it, start to finish. Then there are a couple transition issues which read like JLA issues with mild spices. They're by different writers, and are Authority comics in the same way that McDonalds' McNugget Honey Mustard sauce is technically mustard, but not anything one can acknowledge as mustard outside of its one, specific context.

Then Millar comes in and can't decide if he wants to write a socially relevant story, or shit all over Ellis' previous efforts. And he gets motherfucking Art Adams in on the gag. Then some Paul Gulacy, or someone very similar comes in and pees on that.

I need to remember to stop at TPB #3 next time.

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« Reply #2448 on: July 11, 2013, 09:23:32 AM »
when most people learn something interesting, they'll tell you about it in like a ten minute conversation
Alan Moore will talk to you about it for yeeeeeeaaaaars through the medium of comic books.

Promethea can be a horrible horrible slog.  Issue 12 is the history of the human race as metaphors in the tarot told in verse with a 20 page "joke" (i think?) running at the bottom of the pages.

The issue before that was a primer on yoga and sex magic.

I wasn't really expecting Promethea to be his telling of the Wonder Woman mythos similar to Supreme being about Superman or Miracle Man being about Captain Marvel, but I wasn't expecting it to be issue after issue of that one architecture scene in From Hell (WHICH I ACTUALLY FOUND INTERESTING!).

Luckily, I'm still reading Lucifer.  I have almost caught up to where I abandoned the series previously and though I'm very familiar with these books I'm still enjoying them a great deal.  Holds up better for me than Sandman does, probably because it's less scatter shot and Lucifer is a good character rather than a cypher for "what did Neil Gaiman read about this week?"

In addition to this I'm reading Nextwave: Agents of HATE.  I can pinpoint where I previously stopped reading comics.  Issue 4 of this series.  I liked it, but I had given up the reading of all comics in pretty much any format so I never completed it and was not motivated to do so until now.

As for floppies, I bought the new Batman 66 but haven't read it.
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« Reply #2449 on: July 11, 2013, 04:38:18 PM »
new marvel solicits are out and it includes a Fantomex series under the MAX stable written by a guy who hasn't done anything with comics in 20 years.



ANDREW HOPE (w) • SHAWN CRYSTAL (a)
Cover by FRANCESCO FRANCAVILLA
• The X-Men’s own International Super-Thief in his own MAX miniseries!
• Sexy secret agents, weird weaponry, vintage champagne and a damsel in distress.
• All the uncensored action you could ever want in a comic… and MORE!
32 PGS./Explicit Content …$3.99
THERE IS A STRICT NO OVERPRINT POLICY ON ALL MAX TITLES.


if it's done crazy Euro Sleaze Spy it could be awesome
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« Reply #2450 on: July 11, 2013, 05:00:18 PM »
WHY ISN'T HE CALLED FANTOMAX?!
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #2451 on: July 11, 2013, 05:30:55 PM »
Fantomex seems mildly racist. I'm picturing a hispanic Phantom ripoff.
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« Reply #2452 on: July 12, 2013, 11:09:03 AM »
His introduction and lack of resolution in Morrison's X-MEN run was wonderful. I don't want to read anything else about him, because other writers will mess it up.

Like Xorn.

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« Reply #2453 on: July 12, 2013, 11:35:02 AM »
His introduction and lack of resolution in Morrison's X-MEN run was wonderful. I don't want to read anything else about him, because other writers will mess it up.

Like Xorn.

Too late.  I had no idea who this character even was when they put him in Uncanny X-Force, but they did a pretty good job with the character in that book...for the most part.  At the end of the series,
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Fantomex gets into a relationship with Psylocke, then gets killed.  His robot-ship companion thing took his place on the team and the book ended with him seemingly dead...only he then came back as three people, because of his three brains-in-one or whatever.  ??? ??? ???
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So now this storyline is continuing on in the new X-Force book, with good-guy Fantomex, Cluster (female Fantomex who lezzes out for Psylocke), and dark-evil Fantomex.  And it's awful.  Actually everything about the new X-Force series is pretty bad.  It's turned into Psylocke: The Series but they've made the character all emo and boring.   Even the Cable X-Force book (yes, there's two X-Force series now  :dizzy) is better.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Avengers gender and race changes for everyone!
« Reply #2454 on: July 12, 2013, 01:43:45 PM »
yeah, I only read the first 24 issues or so and Fantomex was very well handled

but ... 3 brains ... ??? ??? ???

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/ragdollpurps/blog/kris-anka-on-clusters-design-lady-fantomex/85931/
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« Reply #2455 on: July 12, 2013, 02:07:23 PM »
that's dumb

here's hoping that this is out of pocket enough to not rely on that continuity

I READ SOME FLOPPIES!  LET'S TALK ABOUT THEM
Batman '66 #2.  I like this a LOT better than the first one.  We get a window cameo which may be a bit of foreshadowing of events beyond the show, we get a reference to the bat watusi, we get a knock down drag out fight with catwoman and her henchmen, we get Batman actually failing at something.  This issue is a lot more fun than the first one.  I'll keep buying it.  I mean, it's a buck.  Hard to get mad at that.

Ghosted #1. Casper's 11.  Dude is in prison, dude is broken out of prison by a heavily armed woman (comically overarmed), dude is told he has to steal a ghost from a mansion with a dark past in exchange for his freedom, dude says sure as long as i can bring my own people, and he assembles a kooky squad.  i mean, it's a heist story with a twist.  but we don't know enough about the world at large to know if the ghost (or ghosts in genera) even exists in this world.  it could be a snipe hunt.  i wish it had begun in media res, because everyone has enough experience with heist stories that they could have easily begun with issue 2.  team assembled, about to scope out the joint before breaking in.  this issue is all stuff that could have been told in brief flashbacks, or even filled in through character interactions.  i'll check out at least two more issues before i make a decision but there's some problematic things that are kind of making my enjoyment of the situation somewhat guarded.

sheltered #1. Survivalists vs THEIR OWN CHILDREN.  I liked this, probably more than i should have.  first issue so we just get character and situation introductions.  basically it's a survivalist compound out in the woods and the kids, for some unrevealed reason, split the men and the women up and then slaughter the men.  and that's basically it. no thought as to why, we spend more time with people who are murdered than we do with the murderers, so we don't really get a sense of what caused this to happen.  I'm intrigued enough to come back for at least the first arc.

in a (probably misguided or not at all helpful) attempt to prevent Fearless Defenders from being cancelled, I've decided to start buying that monthly rather than waiting for trades.  Waiting for trades sucks when you buy the first volume of something and enjoy it only to realize you're never getting a second one.

also i checked out the economics of marvel's trades right now and they're totally fucked.

I bought two of the new Marvel Now! hardcovers.  Indestructible Hulk and Captain America.  They're MSRP of $25 for 5 issues.  That's $5 an issue, so it costs MORE than if you were buying the floppies.  That's crazy.  I ordered them through Amazon so they were $17 or so which is still kind of high for an hour or so's worth of reading.  The TPBs are a bit better at $17 MSRP but through Amazon they're routinely $10 or less (esp if you pre-order).
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« Reply #2456 on: July 12, 2013, 02:42:07 PM »
I got some comics at Half-Price Books yesterday

they had the first collection of Kochalka's American Elf for $8

and a shrinkwrapped hardcover of Ozma of Oz for $15. I'm actually a whore for non-movie Oz continuity and Ozma's my favorite book.

someone had also nuked their Lucifer TPB collection but if I'm gonna buy that physically I'm gonna get the new releases

yay comics
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« Reply #2457 on: July 12, 2013, 11:53:29 PM »
I would have snatched that whole Lucifer collection up, like a snatching thing with extra snatching appendages.

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« Reply #2458 on: July 14, 2013, 01:44:38 AM »
Caught up on Batman (didn't we already have Zero Hour? Now we need a whole Zero Year?) and TWD (rick stahp wat r u doin.)

Also reading Kingdom Come for the first time and... I think this might be my favorite comic ever. I mean I read the Wiki on it years ago but I've been disappointed by the actual writing in other comics I did that for (Batman RIP, Battle for the Cowl, and Final Crisis especially.) So I thought there would be no way it could actually capitalize on its potential, but man does it ever. The art is gorgeous too, but you already knew that. Probably the best looking cape comic ever, and fits the book like a glove.

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« Reply #2459 on: July 14, 2013, 04:24:32 PM »
first episode of Beware The Batman aired yesterday and it wasn't that bad.

the CGI takes a bit of getting used to, but this is a younger batman with a different rogues gallery thus far
first episode dealt with Professor Pyg in a far less violent role, teamed up with mister toad (both from the recent Morrison run) to take billionaires hostage in vengeance for a land deal gone wrong.

we meet Alfred who is essentially played by Jason Statham, a lanky cockney take on the Alfred we know and love from Untold Legend of the Batman  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Untold_Legend_of_the_Batman where he's very physical rather than the passive comedic foil we've often seen.

and we also get a female character who isn't Barbara Gordon.  Katana is hired (i guess) by Alfred to be Bruce Wayne's bodyguard.

For a first episode, I liked it.  It doesn't rely on the same 7 Batman villains we've always dealt with, instead pulling from more recent comics.

Next episode features Magpie of all people and the third episode has Anarky, you know the teenage anarchist who wore a guy fawkes mask to take down corporations and corrupt governments.... wait a minute, is 4chan writing this series?
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