Author Topic: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads (Read 1052981 times)

parallax · « **Reply #3360 on:** January 22, 2015, 12:43:41 PM »

Quote from: Supermanisdead on January 21, 2015, 04:44:11 PM

Today's Magneto and All New X-Men were great. Magneto is surprisingly one of the best current Marvel series.

im suprised he surrendered, but im hoping this leads to him speaking out about whats going on with mutants

Quote from: bork laser on January 22, 2015, 08:20:30 AM

And over in Spider-Verse, things are finally beginning to come to an end.
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In the Scarlet Spiders mini-series, the three clone Spideys succeed in shutting down the facility that produces clone bodies for the spider-hunters to keep regenerating themselves with. Ben Reilly sacrifices himself to do it, which makes no sense to me since him being dead would fuck up continuity, but I guess we're either A) not supposed to think about this or B) he's actually from some other universe. Probably the latter. Kaine goes nuts and goes to attack the spider-hunters on their own turf, transforming into a giant spider...man. Then Silk goes to the same place to try and rescue Spider-Woman, who has been there undercover. This is what the hunters want, since Kaine (The Other), Silk (The Bride), and baby Ben (The Scion) are all needed in the same place for them to achieve real ultimate power or whatever. So what about OMG UNCLE BEN?!?!. Well this was a big nothing. He's alternate reality Ben who got spider powers and gave up being Spider-Man after his reality's Green Goblin killed May and Peter. He hid in a bunker even when Doctor Octopus was threatening the world, fucked up, and caused a nuclear disaster. It ends up being The Superior Spider-Man who gets in his face and tells him to man up and fight with everyone. Superior also realizes that the 616 Spider-Man with him is in fact Peter Parker from the present time -his future- meaning he now knows he's going to 'lose' and Peter will get his body back.
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yeah, they go out of their to say its an alt ben

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all that about being successful where pete failed

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im kinda curious to the end game of all this

bork · « **Reply #3361 on:** January 22, 2015, 01:25:29 PM »

It feels like Spider-Verse is irrelevant now with Secret Wars, which is like the same thing on a much bigger scale. But Spider-Verse is fun and easy to follow, since it's just happening within the Spider-Man titles.

parallax · « **Reply #3362 on:** January 22, 2015, 02:15:03 PM »

Quote from: bork laser on January 22, 2015, 01:25:29 PM

It feels like Spider-Verse is irrelevant now with Secret Wars, which is like the same thing on a much bigger scale. But Spider-Verse is fun and easy to follow, since it's just happening within the Spider-Man titles.

theres not much bitching going on with spiderverse too, so theres that

Supermanisdead · « **Reply #3363 on:** January 26, 2015, 12:08:56 PM »

So edgy

Ultimate X-Men

Bebpo · « **Reply #3364 on:** January 26, 2015, 02:41:58 PM »

Read the first Bendis arc in Daredevil with the traumatic kid and Ben the reporter. Really cool art style. Liked it a lot.

Started reading Avengers Forever and it's ok but I can totally picture that if you were a reader of Avengers since like the 60s what a cool arc it would be to pull your favorite Era version of Avengers characters and put them on a team together. It's like a fighting game!

bork · « **Reply #3365 on:** January 27, 2015, 08:59:13 AM »

Read Red Sonja: The Black Tower, which is a four-issue mini involving the titular structure appearing in a town and making the people go crazy. Two people emerge from the tower and are labeled demons by the asshole badguy barbarian villain. He kills the man and tries to rape the woman before Sonja pops up and cuts off his finger after he touches her boob (yes, really), and then through the course of events...his junk. Anyway, the town becomes a den of sin and debauchery while the tower just sits there. The asshole barbarian guy becomes the town leader and after a number of years pass, gets people to bring him Sonja, who is now missing an eye. She of course stops him and then the tower doors open, and here's where shit gets stupid and weird.

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Armored guys that almost look like Doombots holding lightsabers emerge and are revealed to in fact be robots. They take over the town and drive Sonja away. Years pass and the robots have made everyone's lives miserable. Their leader emerges from the tower and it is implied that his robot army has taken over the world. They have guns and tanks, so the barbarians are pretty much helpless. Sonja shows up again, now older (and by that, I mean she has some white streaks in her hair and otherwise looks the same. Come on, guys.) and leading a barbarian army. The robots easily crush the resistance and their leader cuts off Sonja's head. Yep, she's dead.

Fast forward a number of years and we find out that the leader is a human wearing armor. There's little pockets of resistance but his dictatorship stops anything from happening. People are now used to technology and would-be assassins use guns and such. There's a 'religion' that started off as black tower worshippers -all female- who have over time changed into essentially a bunch of whores worshipping the leader. He sleeps with one of them, a woman with short red hair (HINT) and then shows her that he is in fact a time traveler. The tower is a giant time machine and his parents are the two people who came out back in issue one. The woman then attacks him and reveals that she is either Red Sonja reincarnated, cloned, or something else (seriously, this is how the dialogue goes...not even the writer knows what's going on here, lol) and cuts off his head.

She then proceeds to go back in time to the beginning of the story. She kills asshole barbarian guy, then kills the main villain's (innocent) mother to prevent him from being born, which causes her to fade out of existence and the tower disappears. Then we see Sonja riding towards the town.

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Mr. Nobody · « **Reply #3366 on:** January 28, 2015, 05:00:18 PM »

Multiversity Guidebook

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #3367 on:** January 28, 2015, 06:58:48 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Nobody on January 28, 2015, 05:00:18 PM

Multiversity Guidebook

Yeah that was cool, I definitely would read books with some of those Earths.

parallax · « **Reply #3368 on:** January 29, 2015, 01:31:30 AM »

Quote from: Junpei the Tracer! on January 28, 2015, 06:58:48 PM

Quote from: Mr. Nobody on January 28, 2015, 05:00:18 PM
Multiversity Guidebook

Yeah that was cool, I definitely would read books with some of those Earths.

those earths already exist. im suprised they added stan lees justice league to the mix.

well most of them anyway

Supermanisdead · « **Reply #3369 on:** January 29, 2015, 03:55:58 PM »

Spider-man and the X-Men

Himu · « **Reply #3370 on:** January 29, 2015, 04:06:16 PM »

Can't get enough of ms marvel

Mr. Nobody · « **Reply #3371 on:** January 30, 2015, 02:55:07 AM »

Quote from: Queen of Ice on January 29, 2015, 04:06:16 PM

Can't get enough of ms marvel

I love it. Easily the best female ongoing there.

Himu · « **Reply #3372 on:** January 30, 2015, 02:57:41 AM »

seriously, i'm in love with this book like nothing else. it really helps it has a lot of spider-man'sms. Spidey is my fave fave, and his books are trash now, so it really helps me feel like I'm getting some weird Spider-Man reboot. i like she hulk a lot too. lots of good books out. marvel is killing it

bork · « **Reply #3373 on:** January 30, 2015, 01:56:03 PM »

Some major shit happened in Uncanny X-Men.

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The current storyline is about a new mutant being discovered named Matthew Maloy. Matthew is an omega-level telepath/telekinetic with insane destructive power. But it turns out that he is not "new" at all-- Xavier was aware of him in his youth and used his own power to basically "hide" Matthew and suppress his power. This finally backfired and Matthew started destroying shit. SHIELD wants to take him out but Cyclops and Magik get to him first. Other stuff happens but the big thing here is that SHIELD tries to kill him with missiles and Matthew retaliates...which in the end kills Cyclops and Magik. They're nothing but bones. He then makes his way to the X-Men and ends up killing Emma Frost too. To stop Matthew, younger new mutant Eva Bell goes back in time and brings back...Xavier.

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I can see this storyline going in three ways. It's either just self-contained and everyone comes back after it's over. Or this ties into Secret Wars.

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Or this not only ties into Secret Wars, but the younger Xavier sticks around and ends up becoming the younger also-from-the-last X-Men's teacher...before this is all fixed with Secret Wars.

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Quote from: Queen of Ice on January 30, 2015, 02:57:41 AM

Spidey is my fave fave, and his books are trash now

Himu · « **Reply #3374 on:** January 30, 2015, 01:57:39 PM »

Quote from: bork laser on January 30, 2015, 01:56:03 PM

Quote from: Queen of Ice on January 30, 2015, 02:57:41 AM
Spidey is my fave fave, and his books are trash now

what are good spidey books then

bork · « **Reply #3375 on:** January 30, 2015, 02:04:01 PM »

Superior was a good read. Amazing has been fun since it came back. So has has 2099. And Ultimate with Miles is great too, albeit very slow-paced.

They're doing good things with the Spidey books. I have no real complaints about any of them.

Mr. Nobody · « **Reply #3376 on:** January 30, 2015, 02:44:39 PM »

Superior was good until a little after halfway when I recognized Slott's pattern of "drastic status quo changing decision made for Peter? nah lemme hand-wave that away".

Amazing rebooted and I haven't been particularly impressed with it. I've actually dropped it and don't really care for this Spider-Verse stuff to be honest.

2099 is good but I haven't read the last few issues.

Spider-Woman has potential but its in event hell right now.

Himu · « **Reply #3377 on:** January 30, 2015, 02:51:41 PM »

I'm waiting for the spiderverse crap to die off. when are they getting mj and peter back together again? read something about an event coming june 2015?

parallax · « **Reply #3378 on:** January 30, 2015, 02:58:31 PM »

Quote from: Queen of Ice on January 30, 2015, 02:51:41 PM

I'm waiting for the spiderverse crap to die off. when are they getting mj and peter back together again? read something about an event coming june 2015?

secret wars tie in. we dont know what that means except mayday exists, so its not our pete. i wouldnt expect a happy ending

Himu · « **Reply #3379 on:** January 30, 2015, 03:00:37 PM »

bork · « **Reply #3380 on:** January 30, 2015, 03:01:46 PM »

Read Spider-Verse, guys. It's a blast and it's easy to follow since it's just happening in a few Spidey books. Spider-Woman being tied to the event is just weird to me, though. I never saw that character as being a 'Spider-Man' type. Plus there's Silk and now Spider-Gwen. Did we really need her to have a new series start and immediately be part of Spider-Verse? Worse yet, did Greg Land really have to be drawing it?

bork · « **Reply #3381 on:** January 30, 2015, 03:02:43 PM »

There's no telling what's going to come out Secret Wars. No face-palming just yet. We could very well see all the shit that's happened since One More Day 'fixed' and Spider-Man back with Mary Jane.

Himu · « **Reply #3382 on:** January 30, 2015, 03:04:43 PM »

Quote from: bork laser on January 30, 2015, 03:02:43 PM

There's no telling what's going to come out Secret Wars. No face-palming just yet. We could very well see all the shit that's happened since One More Day 'fixed' and Spider-Man back with Mary Jane.

that's what i'm hoping

bork · « **Reply #3383 on:** January 30, 2015, 03:11:00 PM »

My real problem with Secret Wars right now is that now that we know what it is and what they're doing...

...all the current stuff feels irrelevant.

Hurry it up, bros.

parallax · « **Reply #3384 on:** January 30, 2015, 03:11:20 PM »

Quote from: bork laser on January 30, 2015, 03:02:43 PM

There's no telling what's going to come out Secret Wars. No face-palming just yet. We could very well see all the shit that's happened since One More Day 'fixed' and Spider-Man back with Mary Jane.

with slott and quesada still around?

all i want from this is the door to the ultimates closed, marvelman brought into the fold. and to stop this multiverse smashing shit that going on

bork · « **Reply #3385 on:** January 30, 2015, 03:28:02 PM »

Quesada's not in charge anymore and has nothing to do with Spider-Man books AFAIK.

I don't see the multiverse stuff going away. Even DC did that with the New 52 and then hey! Earth 2! Followed by HEY! EARTH 3! And then there's all that Multiversity stuff that Morrison is doing.

I see a future Marvel storyline happening where OH SHIT! ANOTHER EARTH LOLWUT happens within a few years of Secret Wars ending. You just know it. Plus not all the multiverses are going away anyway...The Marvel Cinematic Universe counts lolol.

parallax · « **Reply #3386 on:** January 30, 2015, 03:38:30 PM »

Quote from: bork laser on January 30, 2015, 03:28:02 PM

Quesada's not in charge anymore and has nothing to do with Spider-Man books AFAIK.

I don't see the multiverse stuff going away. Even DC did that with the New 52 and then hey! Earth 2! Followed by HEY! EARTH 3! And then there's all that Multiversity stuff that Morrison is doing.

I see a future Marvel storyline happening where OH SHIT! ANOTHER EARTH LOLWUT happens within a few years of Secret Wars ending. You just know it. Plus not all the multiverses are going away anyway...The Marvel Cinematic Universe counts lolol.

i dont think a new earth will take that long. marvel will be stupid to do a complete multiverse shut out. especially seeing as how it not like they had to maintain all those timelines.

that being said, i am interested to see what they plan on doing with all the other really fucked up lands.

Bebpo · « **Reply #3387 on:** January 30, 2015, 06:06:47 PM »

I'm almost done reading Avengers Forever and it's been a huge slog and one of the worst Marvel reads I've forced myself through.

So basically they make a "capping off arc" to the 1960s-1999 Avengers by bringing in Immortus and going through and retcon explaining away EVERY EVENT that's ever happened to the Avengers in some mumbo jumbo time-travel, dimension splitting bad sci-fi way to connect everything and give it closure to the new post-1999 era of Marvel comics where they'll win the Destiny War, break free form the Time Keepers control and have free reign to explore the galaxy (thus setting up the start of Cosmic Marvel, which is the main reasoning I'm reading it). But yeah retcon everything is ridiculous with SPACE PHANTOMS being the old nanomachines.

Also I look forward to one day reading an Avengers comic I actually enjoy. So far they've all been pretty bad compared to individual hero comics. It's like Avengers are the big dumb summer event movies with a bunch of superheroes smashing stuff and hardly any character development and the plots are ridiculously convoluted. Probably explains why I didn't like the first Avengers movie much either!

Supermanisdead · « **Reply #3388 on:** January 30, 2015, 06:54:44 PM »

Quote from: bork laser on January 30, 2015, 01:56:03 PM

Some major shit happened in Uncanny X-Men.

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The current storyline is about a new mutant being discovered named Matthew Maloy. Matthew is an omega-level telepath/telekinetic with insane destructive power. But it turns out that he is not "new" at all-- Xavier was aware of him in his youth and used his own power to basically "hide" Matthew and suppress his power. This finally backfired and Matthew started destroying shit. SHIELD wants to take him out but Cyclops and Magik get to him first. Other stuff happens but the big thing here is that SHIELD tries to kill him with missiles and Matthew retaliates...which in the end kills Cyclops and Magik. They're nothing but bones. He then makes his way to the X-Men and ends up killing Emma Frost too. To stop Matthew, younger new mutant Eva Bell goes back in time and brings back...Xavier.
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I can see this storyline going in three ways. It's either just self-contained and everyone comes back after it's over. Or this ties into Secret Wars.
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Or this not only ties into Secret Wars, but the younger Xavier sticks around and ends up becoming the younger also-from-the-last X-Men's teacher...before this is all fixed with Secret Wars.
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I have no idea why the hell Eva is bringing Professor X back to the future when she could have just jumped back to tell him what to do. My money is on Professor X mind-controlling Matthew into reviving Emma, Cyclops and Magik, but then somehow he gets stuck in the present like the All New X-Men.

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parallax · « **Reply #3389 on:** January 30, 2015, 07:19:22 PM »

Quote from: Supermanisdead on January 30, 2015, 06:54:44 PM

Quote from: bork laser on January 30, 2015, 01:56:03 PM
Some major shit happened in Uncanny X-Men.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The current storyline is about a new mutant being discovered named Matthew Maloy. Matthew is an omega-level telepath/telekinetic with insane destructive power. But it turns out that he is not "new" at all-- Xavier was aware of him in his youth and used his own power to basically "hide" Matthew and suppress his power. This finally backfired and Matthew started destroying shit. SHIELD wants to take him out but Cyclops and Magik get to him first. Other stuff happens but the big thing here is that SHIELD tries to kill him with missiles and Matthew retaliates...which in the end kills Cyclops and Magik. They're nothing but bones. He then makes his way to the X-Men and ends up killing Emma Frost too. To stop Matthew, younger new mutant Eva Bell goes back in time and brings back...Xavier.
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I can see this storyline going in three ways. It's either just self-contained and everyone comes back after it's over. Or this ties into Secret Wars.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Or this not only ties into Secret Wars, but the younger Xavier sticks around and ends up becoming the younger also-from-the-last X-Men's teacher...before this is all fixed with Secret Wars.
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I have no idea why the hell Eva is bringing Professor X back to the future when she could have just jumped back to tell him what to do. My money is on Professor X mind-controlling Matthew into reviving Emma, Cyclops and Magik, but then somehow he gets stuck in the present like the All New X-Men.
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mutants fucking up the timeline again is a like the sun setting in the west. they should learn that it always goes bad, but nope.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #3390 on:** January 30, 2015, 11:10:00 PM »

Kate Bishop is awesome. Hawkeye Vol. 3 was great fun.

toku · « **Reply #3391 on:** February 02, 2015, 03:40:49 AM »

I'm reading Black Science and I feel like it's way more dense than it needs to be and I can't really tell the characters apart. Art's good but idk if it's the right fit for what Remender is going for here.

bork · « **Reply #3392 on:** February 02, 2015, 08:12:24 AM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=983732

Batman #38 spoiler regarding a Joker retcon.

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What do Vandal Savage, Ra's Al Ghul and the Joker have in common? A lot more than past DC Comics history would have you believe. According to Batman #38, Vandal Savage acquired his immortality from the radiation of a mysterious meteorite that fell to Earth in the prehistoric era. Ra's Al Ghul apparently bathes in a "corrupted version" of the chemical/radiation. And the Joker, as told in Snyder's Batman #38 also encountered the meteorite before Gotham was ever born. That's right, the Joker is immortal. It's a clever retcon to explain how the Joker bounces back time after time from all the punishment Batman dishes out. As explained in Batman #38, the chemical only activates in the Joker at moments of extreme physical injury.

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Mr. Nobody · « **Reply #3393 on:** February 02, 2015, 10:52:41 AM »

Quote from: bork laser on February 02, 2015, 08:12:24 AM

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=983732

Batman #38 spoiler regarding a Joker retcon.

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What do Vandal Savage, Ra's Al Ghul and the Joker have in common? A lot more than past DC Comics history would have you believe. According to Batman #38, Vandal Savage acquired his immortality from the radiation of a mysterious meteorite that fell to Earth in the prehistoric era. Ra's Al Ghul apparently bathes in a "corrupted version" of the chemical/radiation. And the Joker, as told in Snyder's Batman #38 also encountered the meteorite before Gotham was ever born. That's right, the Joker is immortal. It's a clever retcon to explain how the Joker bounces back time after time from all the punishment Batman dishes out. As explained in Batman #38, the chemical only activates in the Joker at moments of extreme physical injury.
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Haven't read Snyder's run since Zero Year started to be honest

Yeti · « **Reply #3394 on:** February 04, 2015, 04:14:48 PM »

I guess Superman has a new super power. Because if anyone was lacking in super powers, it was Superman.

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parallax · « **Reply #3395 on:** February 04, 2015, 04:49:01 PM »

some people are gonna be happy with avengers 41.

well. a lot of people are

Pickles the Firecat · « **Reply #3396 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:01:59 PM »

So I read a ton of Ultimate Reed stuff in excitement for Secret Wars, since I'd avoided 1610 entirely.

What a fucking terrible, awful, irredeemable mound of shit the Ultimate universe is. Holy fuck it's bad. Started at Ultimatum and finished Cataclysm last night. The only enjoyable takeaway is that I'll never have to do it again.

parallax · « **Reply #3397 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:04:52 PM »

Quote from: Pickles the Firecat on February 10, 2015, 06:01:59 PM

So I read a ton of Ultimate Reed stuff in excitement for Secret Wars, since I'd avoided 1610 entirely.

What a fucking terrible, awful, irredeemable mound of shit the Ultimate universe is. Holy fuck it's bad. Started at Ultimatum and finished Cataclysm last night. The only enjoyable takeaway is that I'll never have to do it again.

seriously. there were issues at the start of the ultimate universe, but destroying the f4 in such a shitshow fashion was horrible.

Supermanisdead · « **Reply #3398 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:41:46 PM »

Lmao @ Ultimatum to Cataclysm. That's like watching X-Men 3 and X-Men Origins back to back to get to know the X-Men film franchise. I'm so sorry for u.

parallax · « **Reply #3399 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:53:10 PM »

Quote from: Supermanisdead on February 10, 2015, 06:41:46 PM

Lmao @ Ultimatum to Cataclysm. That's like watching X-Men 3 and X-Men Origins back to back to get to know the X-Men film franchise. I'm so sorry for u.

he missed out on the attempted murder ant man, gay hating nightcrawler so hes winning so far

Purple Filth · « **Reply #3400 on:** February 10, 2015, 06:59:08 PM »

Quote from: Pickles the Firecat on February 10, 2015, 06:01:59 PM

So I read a ton of Ultimate Reed stuff in excitement for Secret Wars, since I'd avoided 1610 entirely.

What a fucking terrible, awful, irredeemable mound of shit the Ultimate universe is. Holy fuck it's bad. Started at Ultimatum and finished Cataclysm last night. The only enjoyable takeaway is that I'll never have to do it again.

I think someone said it before (maybe of ComicGAF?) that it was basically taking the most asshole traits out of everyone from the normal universe and pushing it to 11 for their Ultimate Counterparts.

And everyone knows who Spiderman is since he's a fucking idiot

Supermanisdead · « **Reply #3401 on:** February 10, 2015, 11:04:04 PM »

Quote from: parallax on February 10, 2015, 06:53:10 PM

Quote from: Supermanisdead on February 10, 2015, 06:41:46 PM
Lmao @ Ultimatum to Cataclysm. That's like watching X-Men 3 and X-Men Origins back to back to get to know the X-Men film franchise. I'm so sorry for u.

he missed out on the attempted murder ant man, gay hating nightcrawler so hes winning so far

But he missed Dazzler being the disgusting lead singer of a punk band and Jean Grey having a real personality.

Yeti · « **Reply #3402 on:** February 10, 2015, 11:26:11 PM »

I really enjoyed Ultimate Spider-Man. It's probably the only "Ultimate" title I could recommend, even if I enjoyed some of the storylines in some of the other Ultimate lines. Ultimates 3 is probably the worst graphic novel I've ever read though.

parallax · « **Reply #3403 on:** February 11, 2015, 12:56:45 AM »

Quote from: Supermanisdead on February 10, 2015, 11:04:04 PM

Quote from: parallax on February 10, 2015, 06:53:10 PM
Quote from: Supermanisdead on February 10, 2015, 06:41:46 PM
Lmao @ Ultimatum to Cataclysm. That's like watching X-Men 3 and X-Men Origins back to back to get to know the X-Men film franchise. I'm so sorry for u.

he missed out on the attempted murder ant man, gay hating nightcrawler so hes winning so far

But he missed Dazzler being the disgusting lead singer of a punk band and Jean Grey having a real personality.

dazzler is eh, but ill give you jean. but the good is like flecks of gold buried in shit

Himu · « **Reply #3404 on:** February 11, 2015, 03:20:43 AM »

Giving Super Spidey a shot because Lyte said it's good and I trust him.

And yeah, between the death of spidey and superior, best spider-man Ive read in a long time.

which doesn't mean much

bork · « **Reply #3405 on:** February 11, 2015, 10:40:33 AM »

The only thing that I'd say is really disappointing about Superior is the way it ends. Can't get into detail without spoilers though.

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Doc Ock just plain gives up and restores Peter's mind to his body, leaving Peter to clean up his mess. Just felt anti-climatic.

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Himu · « **Reply #3406 on:** February 11, 2015, 11:30:30 AM »

I think Superior is a great way at looking at what makes Spider-Man tick. It's fun, really entertaining, dramatic, and a really good examination in how and why Spider-Man and Peter are the way they are. It's pretty obvious just being in Parker's body doesn't make Otto Parker, but it's still hilarious and fun seeing him get into trouble and fucking up Peter's life and what he's worked so hard to achieve. If only because it truly settles the fact that through all the turmoil and drama of his life, Parker puts his all into his life and trying to be the best person he can be even if it doesn't always go perfect.

Himu · « **Reply #3407 on:** February 11, 2015, 08:40:49 PM »

The only thing I'm not liking about superior is Ramos art. I think he flat out sucks. The art was good for a few issues and I think Ramos took a backseat and now it's shit again. God, I fucking hate this guys art with a burning passion. Feel like I'm reading fucking Megatokyo. How the fuck he has a job at Marvel I'm not sure but I could do a better job than him by a long shot and the fact that I have to read a solid Spidey story interrupted with his shit art grinds my gears. I can only imagine the writer, who is a good one, having to suffer seeing his writing not getting the artistic merit it deserves.

Himu · « **Reply #3408 on:** February 11, 2015, 08:44:41 PM »

Fucking jarhdispaldnfneksk

This art is ATROCIOUS. Look at wolverine's arm. Look at the size of Widow's head compared to her body. Why does she have the body of a Barbie? Why is her waist so thin? Why does he give Spider-man stupid ninja feet. GOD. awful.

Reminds me when I tried to get into Spider Island storyline and his art was a huge obstacle

Fucking LOL

How does marvel have this guy penciling one of their flagship books?!

parallax · « **Reply #3409 on:** February 11, 2015, 10:11:43 PM »

i assume they keep ramos and land on because they can get books out ontime. i remember during civil war when ramos gave wolverine a giraffes neck.

bork · « **Reply #3410 on:** February 11, 2015, 11:04:31 PM »

Spider-Verse is over, sort of- there's still an epilogue issue in ASM #15 coming out in two weeks.

I actually read another epilogue comic first, in Spider-Woman #4:

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The Inheritors are defeated, but what about the world they took over and were running, which was populated by people from various multiverses? They all go crazy and start rioting. But the focus isn't on that. Instead we see that this world's Jessica Drew has taken up residence on Captain Namor's pirate ship and is enjoying herself. Spider-Woman, Silk, and Spider-Gwen beat up some pirates and convince this Jessica Drew to become the leader of this world. Uh, OK.

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And that's it for the Spider-Verse part. Then Spider-Woman goes back to 616 and quits the Avengers, mentioning she wants a new costume. In other words, this is a garbage-tier forgettable issue basically telling you that Spider-Woman is REALLY starting with #5. This character absolutely did not fit into the Spider-Verse story at all, IMO.

Spider-Verse part six in ASM #14:

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Another ho-hum ending to a Dan Slott Spider-Man event. The Inheritors are easily dispatched (WTF? WHY?!

). We never do find out why Silk is referred to as "The Bride." Spider-Uncle Ben takes baby Ben into another world, saving him from being killed by Morlun. Superior Spidey kills the weaver, effectively stopping the Inheritors from being able to teleport to other worlds. Superior once again does what it takes to actually save the fuckin' day. Spider-Girl has a chance to kill Solus, whose essence is inside a crystal, but stops herself from doing so. All the Inheritors are then kicked through a portal into the radioactive world where Spider Uncle Ben came from. They're now trapped there, inside the fallout shelter/vault Ben was using, but not dead so they can come back at some time in the future. Kaine appears to be dead but who knows.

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And that's it. I hope the epilogue issue does a better job of really ending things, because after all this build-up, everything just totally fizzled out; that ending had zero impact.

parallax · « **Reply #3411 on:** February 11, 2015, 11:10:13 PM »

Quote from: bork laser on February 11, 2015, 11:04:31 PM

Spider-Verse is over, sort of- there's still an epilogue issue in ASM #15 coming out in two weeks.

I actually read another epilogue comic first, in Spider-Woman #4:
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The Inheritors are defeated, but what about the world they took over and were running, which was populated by people from various multiverses? They all go crazy and start rioting. But the focus isn't on that. Instead we see that this world's Jessica Drew has taken up residence on Captain Namor's pirate ship and is enjoying herself. Spider-Woman, Silk, and Spider-Gwen beat up some pirates and convince this Jessica Drew to become the leader of this world. Uh, OK.
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And that's it for the Spider-Verse part. Then Spider-Woman goes back to 616 and quits the Avengers, mentioning she wants a new costume. In other words, this is a garbage-tier forgettable issue basically telling you that Spider-Woman is REALLY starting with #5. This character absolutely did not fit into the Spider-Verse story at all, IMO.

Spider-Verse part six in ASM #14:
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Another ho-hum ending to a Dan Slott Spider-Man event. The Inheritors are easily dispatched (WTF? WHY?! ). We never do find out why Silk is referred to as "The Bride." Spider-Uncle Ben takes baby Ben into another world, saving him from being killed by Morlun. Superior Spidey kills the weaver, effectively stopping the Inheritors from being able to teleport to other worlds. Superior once again does what it takes to actually save the fuckin' day. Spider-Girl has a chance to kill Solus, whose essence is inside a crystal, but stops herself from doing so. All the Inheritors are then kicked through a portal into the radioactive world where Spider Uncle Ben came from. They're now trapped there, inside the fallout shelter/vault Ben was using, but not dead so they can come back at some time in the future. Kaine appears to be dead but who knows.
[close]

And that's it. I hope the epilogue issue does a better job of really ending things, because after all this build-up, everything just totally fizzled out; that ending had zero impact.

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they really killed the impact of what happened to kaine. its like noone really gave a damn

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Supermanisdead · « **Reply #3412 on:** February 11, 2015, 11:23:41 PM »

i actually really like ramos $:-\$

Mr. Nobody · « **Reply #3413 on:** February 12, 2015, 12:12:24 AM »

Southern Bastards

Indie Jason Aaron

Best thing he's written since Scalped

Himu · « **Reply #3414 on:** February 12, 2015, 01:52:44 AM »

Superior spider-man, while starting off great, wanders into a Who's Who of Spidey's rogue gallery around its teens. This series could easily be cut in half. Stuff like with Spider Slayer and Kingpin aren't necessary given the story has established how utterly ruthless Otto is as Spidey.

bork · « **Reply #3415 on:** February 12, 2015, 07:57:43 AM »

Agreed, Himu, it could have been shorter.

Quote from: parallax on February 11, 2015, 11:10:13 PM

Quote from: bork laser on February 11, 2015, 11:04:31 PM
Spider-Verse is over, sort of- there's still an epilogue issue in ASM #15 coming out in two weeks.

I actually read another epilogue comic first, in Spider-Woman #4:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Inheritors are defeated, but what about the world they took over and were running, which was populated by people from various multiverses? They all go crazy and start rioting. But the focus isn't on that. Instead we see that this world's Jessica Drew has taken up residence on Captain Namor's pirate ship and is enjoying herself. Spider-Woman, Silk, and Spider-Gwen beat up some pirates and convince this Jessica Drew to become the leader of this world. Uh, OK.
[close]

And that's it for the Spider-Verse part. Then Spider-Woman goes back to 616 and quits the Avengers, mentioning she wants a new costume. In other words, this is a garbage-tier forgettable issue basically telling you that Spider-Woman is REALLY starting with #5. This character absolutely did not fit into the Spider-Verse story at all, IMO.

Spider-Verse part six in ASM #14:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Another ho-hum ending to a Dan Slott Spider-Man event. The Inheritors are easily dispatched (WTF? WHY?! ). We never do find out why Silk is referred to as "The Bride." Spider-Uncle Ben takes baby Ben into another world, saving him from being killed by Morlun. Superior Spidey kills the weaver, effectively stopping the Inheritors from being able to teleport to other worlds. Superior once again does what it takes to actually save the fuckin' day. Spider-Girl has a chance to kill Solus, whose essence is inside a crystal, but stops herself from doing so. All the Inheritors are then kicked through a portal into the radioactive world where Spider Uncle Ben came from. They're now trapped there, inside the fallout shelter/vault Ben was using, but not dead so they can come back at some time in the future. Kaine appears to be dead but who knows.
[close]

And that's it. I hope the epilogue issue does a better job of really ending things, because after all this build-up, everything just totally fizzled out; that ending had zero impact.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
they really killed the impact of what happened to kaine. its like noone really gave a damn
[close]

Pretty much. I had to go back and check to make sure I didn't miss an issue, because I didn't even remember that happening!

Himu · « **Reply #3416 on:** February 12, 2015, 04:42:58 PM »

Finished Superior.

That...was awful.

Yeahhhh, I think I'm done with spider-man. Peter Parker is no longer an everyman. He's not relatable at all and Marvel keeps shoving shit down his fans throats. I think I'm done, at least until Slott leaves as head writer. Wow. What an awful series that had potential.

Seems to me, with Marvel, it's best to go with stand alone books (ms marvel, Hawkeye, she hulk, squirrel girl, Star Wars) than the big books and their crappy crossover events.

Kamala Khan IS the new everyman hero, anyways.

parallax · « **Reply #3417 on:** February 12, 2015, 07:50:24 PM »

Quote from: Queen of Ice on February 12, 2015, 04:42:58 PM

Finished Superior.

That...was awful.

Yeahhhh, I think I'm done with spider-man. Peter Parker is no longer an everyman. He's not relatable at all and Marvel keeps shoving shit down his fans throats. I think I'm done, at least until Slott leaves as head writer. Wow. What an awful series that had potential.

Seems to me, with Marvel, it's best to go with stand alone books (ms marvel, Hawkeye, she hulk, squirrel girl, Star Wars) than the big books and their crappy crossover events.

Kamala Khan IS the new everyman hero, anyways.

..not really. like at all. but shes an interesting story. hickmans avengers has been pretty dope, even if douchebaggery is rampant.

Himu · « **Reply #3418 on:** February 12, 2015, 07:57:54 PM »

disagree heavily. i get a similar vibe from kamala. i can relate to her. she's a nerd, her religious background, she tries to do the right thing and it often blows up in her face Parker style, her comedic sense and timing, it all feels like how a contemporary take on spider-man would be like. kamala has struggles and fitting it all into her superhero double life is tough. it's like a mix of spider-man and buffy.

parallax · « **Reply #3419 on:** February 12, 2015, 08:27:30 PM »

Quote from: Queen of Ice on February 12, 2015, 07:57:54 PM

disagree heavily. i get a similar vibe from kamala. i can relate to her. she's a nerd, her religious background, she tries to do the right thing and it often blows up in her face Parker style, her comedic sense and timing, it all feels like how a contemporary take on spider-man would be like. kamala has struggles and fitting it all into her superhero double life is tough. it's like a mix of spider-man and buffy.

thats the thing. as we become more culturally diverse, the less and less everymen and women exist. i could say that robbie reyes would be a perfect everyman type. but as real as his scenario is for many, there are just as many that cant relate to his struggles. they are both still great reads(although the art has fallen on hard times in angr) just not everyman characters

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