Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads

[kingv]

The sad thing is that under Hickman, Ultimate Reed was a really good villain.

Agreed, he was so creepy... it worked.

[bork]

He’ll take the black suit Spider-Man suit and move on from Gwen to MH.

Sorry, who?

The sad thing is that under Hickman, Ultimate Reed was a really good villain.

Definitely.  He faded into obscurity after Secret Wars.  Not just him...other villains who they made out to be "big name villains" like The Maestro are also barely there.  The latter was in a storyline in Old Man Logan (who kicked his and multiple Hulk Gang crew asses all by himself) and that has been about it recently.

[bork]

Miles has been all about not being Spider-Man for a while now. I think there’s a real strong possibility that Bendis ends his Marvel run by giving him a new name and costume at this point.

I think if they do this, his popularity will go down the toilet.  But I also think that's going to happen without Bendis...this character and his family/friends are very much "Bendis characters."

IMO if the Ultimate Universe is back...move him back over there and put the O5 X-Men over there with him, while they're at it.

I also don't have a problem with Riri Williams.  She's not even really the main character of Iron Man.  It's more like an ensemble cast book.

[Momo]

DARK NIGHTS: METAL #5 ON SALE 1/31
MISTER MIRACLE #6 ON SALE 1/10
BATMAN: WHITE KNIGHT #4 ON SALE 1/3

More fuckery tomorrow

[kingv]

He’ll take the black suit Spider-Man suit and move on from Gwen to MH.

Sorry, who?

The sad thing is that under Hickman, Ultimate Reed was a really good villain.

Definitely.  He faded into obscurity after Secret Wars.  Not just him...other villains who they made out to be "big name villains" like The Maestro are also barely there.  The latter was in a storyline in Old Man Logan (who kicked his and multiple Hulk Gang crew asses all by himself) and that has been about it recently.

MH was supposed to be MJ. Mix of phone typing and laziness.

Or maybe I meant he would go gay and end up with MHWilliams. You never know.

[Momo]

Batman White Knight #4

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They literally called Napier a White Knight in this chapter, oh boy.  Social media and identity politics, this is losing me now :/ I liked Napier's idea of starting a Great Teacher Onizuka, Victor Fries's father being a nazi and in league with Thomas and Martha Wayne can go fuck itself though, kinda lost interest now, but will continue to read to see how GTO and bank teller harley/she-joke turns out

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[bork]

I hope White Knight ends with everything being an epic troll for the lulz by Joker and Harley.

We already got a "Batman is the badguy" comic series.  Mark Millar did this with Nemesis.

[Momo]

I'm fairly sure it wont be a Joker troll, I see them playing this straight and making Joker accidentally turn into a shitheel again or something equally not entirely Napier's fault. Either way though, there's so much wrong here, nice ideas but meh.

[Momo]

Some teen titans art by popular deviantarter ( ) eufrik

https://imgur.com/a/p4Wbr

[bork]

Phoenix Resurrection: The Return Of Jean Grey #2: More of the comic series.  Jean lives in a picturesque small town and pretty much everyone there is a dead X-Men character, like Madrox, (the first) Warpath, and Moira MacTaggart.  But then she goes to work at her diner and Magneto pops in for breakfast.  At pretty much the same time, a Magneto 'apparation' who looks and acts like 1960s-era Magneto pops up at a location some X-Men are investigating and fights them, even uttering stuff about ordering breakfast.  I guess these are all apparitions made real by the Phoenix or whatever, but it makes no sense and we didn't need a second straight comic of the same stuff as the first issue.

Spider-Man #236: I swear I don't even remember Miles getting new powers like shooting webs out of his fingertips.     Was going to say that I can't see this character just going away, but then Silk pretty much disappeared and I completely forgot about her over the last few months.  Spidey 2099 too.

[kingv]

Once miles came over to 616 he just seemed sort of superfluous.

As someone trying to step into the shoes of a dead hero, with little guidance, he was kind of interesting, but as a copycat character, for a character that already has like at least 3 or 4 better-established copycat characters, he’s just sort of there.

And they undid the one interesting part to his story by unkilling his mom.

[bork]

He has a different relationship dynamic with his family than Peter does.  Plus his dad was SHIELD so there's some fun story stuff that came from that.  His uncle was also the Ultimate U. Prowler and has now popped up as a new "Iron Spider" villain.

When Slott made Peter Parker a billionaire, globe-trotting CEO, it made sense to have multiple Spider-Men.  Peter was doing stuff all over the world and was tackling "big" problems, Spider-Man 2099 was handling stuff from the future, and then Miles was like the 'street-level' style Spider-Man that Peter was back in the day. 

But now that Peter is back to being more of a street-level guy again himself, yeah...it does seem kind of redundant.  I like Miles though and I don't want him to just go away.

[samfish]

That backwards sentence in Batman 38 is amazing. I read it backwards like 4 times before my brain put it together and exploded.

[kingv]

Peter and miles are Eskimo brothers though.

[benjipwns]

i read Sheriff of Babylon by Tom King

i want an adaptation of it to see how they fuck it up and miss the point

there's quite a few thematic similarities to the book/film Jarhead, which a lot of people I knew at the time also missed the point of

[benjipwns]

omg there's Jarhead film sequels:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarhead_2:_Field_of_Fire

The story is about the team of U.S. Marines who extract an education activist from the strong-hold of the Taliban insurgents

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarhead_3:_The_Siege

The film follows a group of Marines who must protect the US ambassador from a group of militants who attacked the embassy.

[benjipwns]

 

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edit: to be fair, the first films trailers were sliiiiightly misleading, though the choice and use of "Jesus Walks" probably makes up for it

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[benjipwns]

wait, is that second one a fictional take on BENGHAZI

[Momo]

I've never watched this head in a jar film

[benjipwns]

the core premise of it, and the book, and Sheriff of Babylon is about the struggle between how we act and think between normal civilization and the inhumane civilization of warzones and how it warps our moral code while remaining entirely rational and logical in the moment

in retrospect, i think this may have been part of what he was going for with the war between jokes and riddles arc

[samfish]

I like City of the Lost Children. That has a brain in a jar.

[Momo]

That backwards sentence in Batman 38 is amazing. I read it backwards like 4 times before my brain put it together and exploded.

Those last two panels though 

the core premise of it, and the book, and Sheriff of Babylon is about the struggle between how we act and think between normal civilization and the inhumane civilization of warzones and how it warps our moral code while remaining entirely rational and logical in the moment


in retrospect, i think this may have been part of what he was going for with the war between jokes and riddles arc

Aaah, I see. An ancient pattern that plays itself out everyday on 4chin boards all over the internet

[benjipwns]

to make a comment off that regarding Sheriff of Babylon, like #38, it's got an ending that seems more like the beginning of a story we might never see told, King's actually had a few of these in the Batman run so far in the single issues

Justice League has a semi-interesting arc going on, dealing with the consequences of the heroes actions on everyone else in the world, which White Knight has treated in the more Snyder-esque manner of as a mere set-up for something larger and seemingly dumb

The Walking Dead finally pulled itself out of its doldrums of the last few years and introduced something new, I assume because Kirkman finally finished Invincible with the final issue coming next month or so.

[Momo]

I'm going to read the entire new WW run later, this Darkseid stuff has me intrigued.

[kingv]

I liked the new walking dead too.

Though frankly I don’t think the whisperers was really that bad.

I feel like Negans redemption is sort of cheap, but I also like the character so maybe I’m ok with it, even though I know 100% it was just a move that was done because he is popular with readers.

[Momo]

Nightwing the New Order worth reading so far?

[samfish]

It’s pretty good and getting better. The most recent issue is far and away the most riveting one so far. It’s like it’s slowly ramping up from being kinda meh to really good. All the characters feel like classic DC. Only thing I don’t like is what’s going on with Lois Lane. Like they couldn’t think of anyone else to fill her role or something.

[benjipwns]

Though frankly I don’t think the whisperers was really that bad.

It seemed like it was taking forever and going nowhere. They never felt like a legitimate threat, especially after the first meeting. And all the sideplots they were tying into it felt the same way. Really, the whole post-time skip era has felt like this aimless direction.

Another instance of Kirkman having an idea but not having any clue where he was going to take it other than to use it to dole out some SHOCK deaths. (I also thought for sure this was him setting up a transition from Rick to Carl finally but nah, same ol rut since the time skip arguably.)

Also, like is it me or do half the regular "new" characters of the last couple years look alike to where they're borderline impossible to tell apart? And/or I have no idea who they are or where they came from.

I really wouldn't mind if this new storyline was used to set off and visit other parts of the world and come back to Rick/Carl in a year or two. We've been centered in Alexandria for longer than the series has actually been going on now. They came to it 110 issues ago. And there was the two year time skip. They've defended it and had long-term character deaths related to said defense three times already.

[samfish]

The Walking Dead really just needs to turn into the Rick, Carl & Negan Go To Rescue Michonne & Eugene show. Just leave Alexandria behind and trust that it'll preserve itself. The book badly needs some narrowed focus.

I still enjoy the series, but the main problem is the cast is too big and never gets focused on enough. They're just zombie fodder that have gone past their expiration dates. I don't know who any of the characters in Michone's group that traveled to Ohio were. I think the 2 lesbians first appeared after the time skip? Maybe. Hell, I don't remember. Siddiq is zombie fodder.

[Tasty]

[Tasty]

https://io9.gizmodo.com/brian-michael-bendis-resurrected-marvels-ultimate-unive-1821945165

Can't wait for Ultimatum 2!!!

[kingv]

Spider men 2 sounds fucking dumb.

[bork]

Spider men 2 sounds fucking dumb.

The flashback and present day stuff with 616 Miles Morales (AKA scarface gangsta-man) and Kingpin were actually interesting, but the thing is...it doesn't matter.  616 Miles is introduced, given a backstory, and then disappears from 616 all within the span of a few issues.  He's basically a normal guy and there's no reason to ever focus on him ever again.  Both Spider-Men could have been left out of this story and it wouldn't have mattered very much.  In fact, this could have been a single issue or two of a regular Spider-Man comic and the story would have been just fine.

[bork]

I don't follow comic news often, but I also don't remember seeing anything about this, despite this news being from November.  Don't need to wonder what's up with the Phoenix mini-series going on right now, because Marvel spoiled its ending before it even began.

There's going to be another X-Men book.  X-Men Red:



The leader is adult Jean Grey.  Teenage Jean Grey is also still around in X-Men Blue.

Marvel 

Like....seriously.  Bendis brought back 616?  OK, take some of these 'clones' and put them in there.  Do we need two versions of the O5 X-Men (One Cyke...for the moment) and fucking like five Wolverines?

[Momo]

Didnt they *just* kill the ultimate universe so Miles could be in the main one?? lmao.

Mister Miracle today, thoughts soon

[Rahxephon91]

The 05 aren't even the only time displaced X-men running around. There's Bloodstorm(Mutant X Storm) and Jimmy(Son of Ultimate X-men Wolverine). Is'nt Storm's daughter from the future in the mainline universe? I don't really know why they have to have all these time displaced X-men around when they can't even handle the X-men they have hanging around.

[Momo]

thanks obama

[Momo]

Mister Miracle #6 -  I love the cover

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The omelet talk while killing those guards had me chuckling, I've always liked this kind of thing, people who act surrealy 'normal' while doing stressful things, this entire chapter's apartment revamp talk brought levity to the murder and choas, love it. (Reminds me of Library Wars)


I started catching on very early (like page 4 or 5) that this is going to be about having a baby, for the first time ever in entertainment I .. actually like a baby story    had tears in my eyes 

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This book continues to be my favorite thing

[Purple Filth]

I need to get myself caught up on Mr Miracle but things got really busy.

sorry momo 

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Mister Miracle 2

What the fuck did i just read.

 

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why the hell is granny goodness helping him, why is she saying he's the son of Darkseid when Orion should be? Is he experiencing this shit his mind?. 

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Also Big Barda

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's eyes actually being blue even though she said its brown might be hinting at something

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[Momo]

Welcome

[Momo]

https://mobile.twitter.com/rustypolished/status/952282862652395521


 

[Momo]

I'm going to read the entire new WW run later, this Darkseid stuff has me intrigued.

Art and the reading order pissed me off so i quit.

[benjipwns]

try the new 52 run, i really liked the first two-thirds of it, some of the best Wonder Woman since Rucka's first time on the book

a lot of the twin Rebirth plot-lines are about re-writing the events of the New 52 run

also it was a weird idea to do the twin plots, especially since they're so different and one is so dense, i would just read the even issue and odd issue plots until done instead of going back and forth

[Momo]

Yeah I started with it and though 'this isnt fucking worth it' and quit lol

[HardcoreRetro]

As a real DC fan I am reading The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck.

[Tasty]

Loved this in the Super Sons of Tomorrow conclusion:



Basically the most major shot of every major crossover.

[benjipwns]

Tom King still fucking killing it, I realized that the book feels so laid back compared to Snyder's stint of endless epic arcs, especially now that Selina is a major character, but also when he had Damian and Dick in earlier for a guest spot, and Gordon this week, the world of Batman is just everyday mundane to the cast...like last issue where Clark and Bruce casually size up and mark off the purse snatcher...he's really giving it the feeling that all these characters are used to all of this and have done it a thousand times before. And yet there's understandings and relationships between them all that are not contrived. That was one reason the War of Jokes and Riddles seemed so out of place, only at the start and end did it really get into that.

"I'm telling Clark you said that."
"Please don't."

[benjipwns]

Oh, the current arc in Justice League is actually quite good too. Although I can't condone Priest crediting himself as Priest. And I don't care if he changed his name.

It's issues 34-ongoing since he took over. Hitch went off the book with #31, then it had some METAL tie-ins that would have made more sense had the delays not swallowed that up, I don't know if Priest will be ongoing or is filling in. He's done a lot of fill-in work in his career so you never know with him. I haven't been reading it but he's apparently been doing Deathstroke since Rebrith so maybe he'll stay around.

He started off this arc as a "day in the life of the Justice League" dealing with a variety of non world ending threats, but they make a mistake, and it's slowly been revealed as having a larger scope behind it but one that won't go to the level of like DARKSEID CRISIS THREE but kinda the opposite type of threat, someone small and semi-alone who can devastate the league but actually isn't a threat to anyone else except for how it effects the league's operation.

I hope he continues on for a while and tries to go for this kind of JL series even after the storyarc is over, Hitch's bumbling attempts at world ending threats every other month weren't well plotted out, the JL can't be The Authority. And he didn't seem to manage the whole ensemble well. Priest is doing better at giving everyone a part. Though they're still overplaying the two Lanterns inexperience despite Johns having already done that for much of his run, not to mention that Morrison did the same thing for Kyle back in his run that restored The Seven aspect.

Although mentioning The Seven when Cyborg is still around feels dirty, especially since J'onn hasn't shown up in Rebirth. Maybe he'll come punch Doctor Manhattan in the face.

They should put him in The Terrifics which I am totally on board for and glad has been added to the revised new series lineup.

[Tasty]

The problem with King's run I think is that the dirty little of comics is that only big bombastic plots and crossovers really sell. I hope the bottom doesn't fall out from under his run and he's able to keep telling more small scale stories.

[benjipwns]

somewhat relating to that and speaking of METAL delays, apparently they might go ahead and publish the first half collected editions soon anyway since it was originally scheduled to be over this month, and they may be done delaying the rest of the new series that were supposed to be introduced through it or after it, that's apparently why Damage came out this week

i went through the emotions when i saw the release list for this week and saw a bunch of METAL then saw they were just "third printings" of the first three issues

i think next week is another tie-in issue with multiple authors rather than METAL #5 which is the 31st

[Tasty]

I kinda just want Metal to be over with lol. We've gotten some good content, I'm ready for whatever "twist" they're gonna use to have Batman win.

[samfish]

Superman continuing to prove with ease why it's the very best book being published by DC currently. I saw the cover and thought, "god damnit, this is going to make me cry isn't it?"
...and it did. Tomsai has easily become one of the best Superman writers of all time. It's so refreshing to see someone who just gets the Superman and what he's about.

Batman was pretty good, but a step down from the last few issues. I'm kind of half-expecting Batman and Wonder Woman to get it on and then King says, "Selina doesn't mind – they're swingers."

And the Batman/TMNT crossover is still so fucking good. At this point, I'm completely onboard with DC buying the rights to TMNT and making them regulars in the DCU/Batbooks.

As a real DC fan I am reading The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck.

I've tried to read this so many times over the years and I just can't get into it. I always lose interest very quickly :\

[bork]

Am so incredibly behind on DC. 

That "Sons Of Tomorrow" storyline looks pretty cool!  I think I'm gonna check that out.  I don't know about Metal.  Not sure if I really like it based on what I've read.

[bork]

The Spider-Man/Venom crossover storyline "Venom Inc." finished this week with Venom Inc. Omega.  This was a pretty short storyline and was just six issues, IIRC (Alpha, two Amazing, two Venom, and Omega IIRC). 

Plot: Lee Price, a former Venom host (very briefly in the current on-going Venom series), finds a way to steal Manic's symbiote, calls himself "Maniac," and can use it to mind-control people who he spits "venom goo" on.  Those who get controlled also get some Venom-like powers and masks.  He winds up controlling a number of villains and Spider-Man.  His goal is to brainwash all the mafia heads and their soldiers, who are meeting up with the Black Cat (who has been a crime lord for a while in the Spidey comics).  Everyone bands together to stop him.  Not really much else to say about it, but it did change up a few things: 

-Eddie Brock is officially 100% Venom again.  The character has been Venom for months, but this storyline teased the symbiote going back to Flash.
-Flash Thompson is officially now Anti-Venom.  Looks exactly like he did previously as "Agent Venom," just white.
-Manic (a female symbiote user, who I barely even remember) no longer has her symbiote, but that's OK because she uses magic and stuff. 
-Lee Price has apparently permanently bonded with Manic's symbiote.  He turns into this giant Venom monster in Omega.
-Black Cat has lost her entire criminal empire and may go the superhero route again based on the ending.  Maybe.
-Spider-Man is...still Spider-Man.  Nothing changed with him.

A pretty forgettable storyline overall.  Next up it's Venom innnnn spaaaaaaaace with the X-Men Blue kids, who also get symbiote suits.

[kingv]

I’m glad that the suit went back to Eddie, but Lee Price should have been forever forgotten.

Also it sounds like they are going back to some sort of anti-hero venom, which kind of sucks. I would have preferred to see some development of the rage the suit got from Lee Price sort of driving the Eddie and venom combo “mad” and turning him back into a Spider-Man villain.

Of course, all of Venoms most menacing moments involved persona non grata Mary Jane, so it might now work.

Maybe mad venom would remember a reality where they were married 

[Tasty]

Why is everything associated with Venom just so... lame?

[kingv]

I think he just got too popular for his own good, but mostly because people liked his visual design and then Marvel tried to figure out how to get this very popular villain into more and more stuff, kind of fucking  up the character in the process.

Now he’s just kind of a mess, but still also shoehorned into too much stuff.

[bork]

Venom was definitely at his best when he was a crazed Spider-Man villain and the "anti Spider-Man."  Loved how the symbiote also didn't trigger his spider-sense, so Spidey never knew when he was coming.

I didn't mind Flash Thompson as "Agent Venom" but when he joined the Guardians Of The Galaxy and went into space...they lost me. 

I would have preferred to see some development of the rage the suit got from Lee Price sort of driving the Eddie and venom combo “mad” and turning him back into a Spider-Man villain.

That would have been awesome!  Instead we got him getting pills to control the anger.  RIVETING.

[kingv]

I didn’t know about the pills yet. I’m ok unlimited so just started edge of Venomverse. Which has some trash-level D-tier art, btw.

I also agree that space venom was dumb. I get why marvel thought it wasn’t dumb, because the symbiotic is an alien species, but like the alien species thing has never been important to Venoms story, and explaining it was largely dumb, and unneeded.

I don’t know what the fascination is with marvel wanting to send everyone into outer space. Wolverine in space is dumb too.