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What sexual dysfunction best explains Avatar fandom?

Anthropomorphilia, or being a fucking furfag
18 (27.7%)
Technophilia, or the replacing of human contact with technology
6 (9.2%)
Transsexuality, or the desire to inhabit a body different from your own
4 (6.2%)
Dysmorphilia, or finding sexual arousal in bodies different from your own
3 (4.6%)
Neophilia, or the elevation of the "new experience" above all else
8 (12.3%)
Homosexuality, or the desire to give James Cameron a reacharound
12 (18.5%)
Gaiaphilia, or being aroused by new-age mysticism
1 (1.5%)
Funkephilia, or you're afraid you just blue yourself
13 (20%)

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« Reply #720 on: February 02, 2010, 07:49:18 PM »
I saw those. Not impressed.
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« Reply #721 on: February 02, 2010, 07:49:59 PM »
GODDAMN IT GS
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« Reply #722 on: February 02, 2010, 07:50:18 PM »
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« Reply #723 on: February 02, 2010, 07:51:01 PM »
Turned out Jinfash had photoshopped Willco's crotch onto whiteACID's body.

If only he photoshopped Willco's chest onto her body.

Not missing much.

Which ones?

Both.

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« Reply #724 on: February 02, 2010, 07:51:41 PM »
Remember that time Green Shinobi sent PMs to unnamed users whining about what they posted in this thread?

If only he photoshopped Willco's chest onto her body.

:rofl
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« Reply #725 on: February 02, 2010, 07:52:12 PM »
Oh, GS.
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« Reply #726 on: February 02, 2010, 07:54:20 PM »
Sometimes I get Diablos and Green Shinobi confused.
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« Reply #727 on: February 02, 2010, 07:55:09 PM »
The Smashing Pumpkins are a much better band than Muse.


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« Reply #728 on: February 02, 2010, 07:55:44 PM »
 :lol
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« Reply #729 on: February 02, 2010, 07:56:13 PM »
I don't know Malek, I can't think of any lyrics worse than "Despite all my rage, I'm still just a rat in a cage."
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« Reply #730 on: February 02, 2010, 08:06:49 PM »
The Smashing Pumpkins are a much better band than Muse.

Zeitgeist was just as bad as The Resistance.

Wrong. The Resistance appeals to a narrow set of emotions that are generally felt only by adolescent autistics; Zeitgeist appeals to the senses of wonder, adventure, and exploration

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« Reply #731 on: February 02, 2010, 08:46:11 PM »
Remember that time Green Shinobi sent PMs to unnamed users whining about what they posted in this thread?

If only he photoshopped Willco's chest onto her body.

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« Reply #732 on: February 02, 2010, 08:47:17 PM »
:rofl
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« Reply #733 on: February 02, 2010, 10:46:32 PM »
The similarities between Avatar and Dances with Wolves and Pocahontas have already been described in depth and to exhaustion.

And whenever they are your response is the internet equivalent of covering your ears and yelling "LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALA."

You can't resist any attempt at analyzing the similar structures and themes of those movies, then bring up a much more different film as a point of comparison.

Well, you can.  But it makes you look like a complete doofus.

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« Reply #734 on: February 02, 2010, 11:07:00 PM »
Mmm hmm.

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« Reply #735 on: February 02, 2010, 11:09:13 PM »
Star Wars had very few shots of the ships moving slowly.  Like 95% of the space scenes were battles probably.

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« Reply #736 on: February 02, 2010, 11:41:06 PM »
I had a professor that actually showed clips of 2001 and Star Wars to display how DIFFERENT their depictions of space were. :lol
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« Reply #737 on: February 03, 2010, 12:25:15 AM »
Yeah, all I could think while watching 2001 was how similar it looked to Star Wars and The Fifth Element.
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« Reply #738 on: February 03, 2010, 12:27:32 AM »
It's common knowledge Lucas ripped off that shot from 2001.  He also ripped off Tatooine from Frank Herbert's Arrakis.  He ripped off a lot of shit from a lot of people.

And plotwise Star Wars isn't that similar to The Hidden Fortress, Lucas just borrowed the idea of the two peasants (who became Threepio and Artoo), and the general who was escorting the princess to safety.

Unlike those two peasants, though, Threepio and Artoo never tried to rape Princess Leia...that we know of.  :omg
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« Reply #739 on: February 03, 2010, 12:27:44 AM »
this thread
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« Reply #740 on: February 03, 2010, 12:29:33 AM »

Man, this thread is almost as bad as when Patel annihilated GS in the Return of the King thread.   :-\
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« Reply #741 on: February 03, 2010, 12:32:52 AM »
It's common knowledge Lucas ripped off that shot from 2001.

Impossible. TheForce.net fan forum says otherwise.
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« Reply #742 on: February 03, 2010, 12:33:24 AM »
It's common knowledge Lucas ripped off that shot from 2001.  He also ripped off Tatooine from Frank Herbert's Arrakis.  He ripped off a lot of shit from a lot of people.

And plotwise Star Wars isn't that similar to The Hidden Fortress, Lucas just borrowed the idea of the two peasants (who became Threepio and Artoo), and the general who was escorting the princess to safety.

Unlike those two peasants, though, Threepio and Artoo never tried to rape Princess Leia...that we know of.  :omg

Only part of R2's recording was salvaged! :omg
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« Reply #743 on: February 03, 2010, 12:35:15 AM »
I don't blame you for trying to repress those painful memories, but there's no reason to lie.

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« Reply #744 on: February 03, 2010, 12:36:16 AM »
I am gonna bookmark this thread so I can bump it when the Blu-ray comes out

I'm so excited
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« Reply #745 on: February 03, 2010, 12:36:41 AM »
Hahahaha, why does Green Shinobi keep denying all his previous annihilations?  It's so pathetic.
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« Reply #746 on: February 03, 2010, 08:02:29 AM »
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And plotwise Star Wars isn't that similar to The Hidden Fortress, Lucas just borrowed the idea of the two peasants (who became Threepio and Artoo), and the general who was escorting the princess to safety.

IIRC one or more of the early drafts was much more heavily influenced by Hidden Fortress.
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« Reply #747 on: February 03, 2010, 08:38:42 AM »
Yeah, and he actually wanted Toshiro Mifune to play the Obi-Wan role which at that point was the equivalent of the general role he'd done in Hidden Fortress.
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« Reply #748 on: February 03, 2010, 01:55:48 PM »
A girl asked me to go see Avatar tonight

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« Reply #749 on: February 03, 2010, 01:56:51 PM »
A girl asked me to go see Avatar tonight

WHAT DO I DO

Go get a burger with her instead. It's in 3D--the D is for delicious.

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« Reply #750 on: February 03, 2010, 01:58:18 PM »
Yeah, and he actually wanted Toshiro Mifune to play the Obi-Wan role which at that point was the equivalent of the general role he'd done in Hidden Fortress.

Some of the early drafts and art work for the Jedi were very Samurai-esque. I heard that he wanted them to speak Japanese at one point, too.
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« Reply #751 on: February 03, 2010, 02:08:38 PM »
A girl asked me to go see Avatar tonight

WHAT DO I DO

take her to go see The White Ribbon instead

you'll get so much ass after that
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« Reply #752 on: February 03, 2010, 02:10:25 PM »
A girl asked me to go see Avatar tonight

WHAT DO I DO

take her to go see The White Ribbon instead

you'll get so much ass after that

har diddle dee har har
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« Reply #753 on: February 03, 2010, 02:13:32 PM »
A girl asked me to go see Avatar tonight

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Show her the thread on EB about it.
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« Reply #754 on: February 03, 2010, 02:14:32 PM »
Yeah, and he actually wanted Toshiro Mifune to play the Obi-Wan role which at that point was the equivalent of the general role he'd done in Hidden Fortress.

Some of the early drafts and art work for the Jedi were very Samurai-esque. I heard that he wanted them to speak Japanese at one point, too.

George Lucas, the first weebo?
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« Reply #755 on: February 03, 2010, 02:14:58 PM »
A girl asked me to go see Avatar tonight

WHAT DO I DO

Is she good looking?
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« Reply #756 on: February 03, 2010, 02:27:46 PM »
A girl asked me to go see Avatar tonight

WHAT DO I DO

take her to go see The White Ribbon instead

you'll get so much ass after that

har diddle dee har har

it's the touching story of a country school teacher falling in love with a housekeeper in prewar Germany.  and there's some stuff with some kids or something but that's not important
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« Reply #757 on: February 03, 2010, 03:28:02 PM »
Avatar passed Titanic in the US.
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« Reply #758 on: February 03, 2010, 05:29:25 PM »
I'M GOING TO SEE AVATAR TONIGHT

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« Reply #759 on: February 03, 2010, 05:30:18 PM »
who's gonna have a green eggs n ham moment: Patel or Drinky  :o
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« Reply #760 on: February 03, 2010, 05:34:47 PM »
I take solace in attending only after it broke the domestic/international records.

I contribute to its total, but not to its victory.

Moral advantage: Patel.
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« Reply #761 on: February 03, 2010, 05:45:18 PM »
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« Reply #762 on: February 03, 2010, 08:02:03 PM »
Yeah, and he actually wanted Toshiro Mifune to play the Obi-Wan role which at that point was the equivalent of the general role he'd done in Hidden Fortress.

Some of the early drafts and art work for the Jedi were very Samurai-esque. I heard that he wanted them to speak Japanese at one point, too.

Yeah, the Jedi were going to speak subtitled Japanese. Every other character would speak in English and would understand the Japanese-speaking characters perfectly. He even took the name Jedi from "jidai geki."  Lucas am weaboo total.
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« Reply #763 on: February 04, 2010, 02:47:28 AM »
Nobody told me!

In order for a Na'vi to become a hunter and one of The People they must first

RAPE

a

SPACE DINOSAUR

with their

CYBEROPTIC PONYTAIL

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...I guess that shit be mainstream, now.
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« Reply #764 on: February 04, 2010, 02:51:04 AM »
i hope you got to put yer business in her poohaw for this
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« Reply #765 on: February 04, 2010, 02:51:15 AM »
Nobody told me!

In order for a Na'vi to become a hunter and one of The People they must first

RAPE

a

SPACE DINOSAUR

with their

CYBEROPTIC PONYTAIL

...

...

...I guess that shit be mainstream, now.

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This happens IN THE FILM I SWEAR.
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« Reply #766 on: February 04, 2010, 03:00:44 AM »
Nobody told me!

In order for a Na'vi to become a hunter and one of The People they must first

RAPE

a

SPACE DINOSAUR

with their

CYBEROPTIC PONYTAIL

...

...

...I guess that shit be mainstream, now.

I don't remember Dances With Wolves or Pocahontas ever doing anything remotely that cool.

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« Reply #767 on: February 04, 2010, 03:22:54 AM »
Okay, real talk, not mocking Green Shinobi for at least this post.

Overall, I'd give the movie a C-minus. Having seen the movie, I feel less like mocking it - not because it's good, but because having seen it, we've spent far more effort tearing it apart than Cameron did building it up.

The CG was so good that there's nothing to say about it. In ten years all movies will look as good as Avatar and in fifty, Avatar will be the answer to a Trivial Pursuit question, much like The Jazz Singer is today. Still, it's good. That's not to say it's creative or original (the art design was a neon-colored JRPG pastiche if ever there was one), but it was technically great. There was no uncanny valley. Bring on John Carter of Mars.

The 3D was unimpressive, but then, I've seen every 3D animated film and most 3D non-animated films released in the past four years. I'm over 3D, even tasteful 3D.

Zoe Saldana did a good job; her character wasn't original, but at least she was a character. And Sigourney's avatar had a Stanford tank top! That was pretty cool.

Things that were dumb:

- Quaritch being all "hearts and minds, shock and awe, preemptive strike, fight terror with terror." It like it's a parable for something, but what!
- The science support staff. Michelle Rodriguez, too. Did their stories get cut in editing?
- What was with that terrible voiceover narration? I guess they spent $400 million before they realized the movie made no fucking sense.
- Warpaint on a helicopter, lol.
- Knife fighting in a power suit, double lol.
- And of course, RAPING a SPACE DINOSAUR with your CYBEROPTIC PONYTAIL.

Still, you know what, it was okay. The first two hours were boring but competent, and the final battle was actually pretty enjoyable. Rent the Blu-ray and skip to the "Destruction of HomeTree" chapter - you'll enjoy that last hour.

Also, given Cameron's Law of Exponential Sequel Returns? Bring on Avatar 2. Seriously. With the tech fetishism out of the way, maybe he'll make a great movie next time out.
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« Reply #768 on: February 04, 2010, 03:27:42 AM »
Still, you know what, it was okay. The first two hours were boring but competent, and the final battle was actually pretty enjoyable. Rent the Blu-ray and skip to the "Destruction of HomeTree" chapter - you'll enjoy that last hour.

This is the advice that every guy I knew at the time gave about Titanic.

Also, I think Cameron has an issue with voice-overs.  The bits in T2 where Linda Hamilton explains the Terminator-as-daddy metaphor are probably the worst.

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« Reply #769 on: February 04, 2010, 03:40:50 AM »
Things that were dumb:

- Warpaint on a helicopter, lol.

That was there so that the Navi would know which helicopter NOT to attack.

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« Reply #770 on: February 04, 2010, 03:43:18 AM »
Things that were dumb:

- Warpaint on a helicopter, lol.

That was there so that the Navi would know which helicopter NOT to attack.

Yeah, I figured it was there for the audience to visually distinguish it, too. Still pretty silly.

Something I didn't mention but should have is that I didn't feel a single emotion, including wonder or adventure, until the last battle started. I recognize this because when I actually did become excited and invested in what was going on screen, it threw the previous two hours into sharp relief. The movie up to that point is like dating a girl who you think is okay and maybe you can work it out, whereas the last 45 minutes are the chick that REALLY does it for you and oh my God why were you even wasting your time, I know right?
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« Reply #771 on: February 04, 2010, 03:47:11 AM »
That was a Simmonsesque metaphor.

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« Reply #772 on: February 04, 2010, 03:47:51 AM »
Gene Simmons?

I dunno, I guess, it's like, I thought "this is interesting! look at these flora and fauna!", but I was just tricking myself into thinking it was interesting. I was not actually engaged on any emotional level.
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« Reply #773 on: February 04, 2010, 03:48:36 AM »
Bill.

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« Reply #774 on: February 04, 2010, 03:49:08 AM »
Never heard of a "Bill Simmons"
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« Reply #775 on: February 04, 2010, 03:54:29 AM »
You don't need to brag about it.

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« Reply #776 on: February 04, 2010, 04:04:21 AM »
Something I didn't mention but should have is that I didn't feel a single emotion, including wonder or adventure, until the last battle started. I recognize this because when I actually did become excited and invested in what was going on screen, it threw the previous two hours into sharp relief. The movie up to that point is like dating a girl who you think is okay and maybe you can work it out, whereas the last 45 minutes are the chick that REALLY does it for you and oh my God why were you even wasting your time, I know right?

You weren't excited by the giant panther thing chasing Jake near the beginning or thrilled by the flight scenes? Not at all?

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« Reply #777 on: February 04, 2010, 05:13:39 AM »
Things that were dumb:

- Warpaint on a helicopter, lol.

That was there so that the Navi would know which helicopter NOT to attack.

Yeah, I figured it was there for the audience to visually distinguish it, too. Still pretty silly.

Something I didn't mention but should have is that I didn't feel a single emotion, including wonder or adventure, until the last battle started. I recognize this because when I actually did become excited and invested in what was going on screen, it threw the previous two hours into sharp relief. The movie up to that point is like dating a girl who you think is okay and maybe you can work it out, whereas the last 45 minutes are the chick that REALLY does it for you and oh my God why were you even wasting your time, I know right?

Yeah, exactly this. DCharlie can testify that I was literally asleep for long stretches at the beginning.
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« Reply #778 on: February 04, 2010, 05:38:14 AM »
So now that you've seen it, Patel, what answer would you give for the question you posed in the thread title?

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« Reply #779 on: February 04, 2010, 06:44:05 AM »
I think the theater in walking distance is only going to show Avatar for a couple more weeks.  If I don't see it before then, I'll probably never see it.
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