Author Topic: What sexual dysfunction best explains Avatar fandom? (Read 165619 times)

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #780 on:** February 04, 2010, 07:55:34 AM »

Pretty much agree with Patel. And that's why I'll never be watching it again, even though I don't regret the $25 for two tickets.

Diunx · « **Reply #781 on:** February 04, 2010, 10:57:33 AM »

Theres a screener out!` downloading the 2gb version

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #782 on:** February 04, 2010, 12:23:53 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on February 04, 2010, 04:04:21 AM

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on February 04, 2010, 03:43:18 AM
Something I didn't mention but should have is that I didn't feel a single emotion, including wonder or adventure, until the last battle started. I recognize this because when I actually did become excited and invested in what was going on screen, it threw the previous two hours into sharp relief. The movie up to that point is like dating a girl who you think is okay and maybe you can work it out, whereas the last 45 minutes are the chick that REALLY does it for you and oh my God why were you even wasting your time, I know right?

You weren't excited by the giant panther thing chasing Jake near the beginning or thrilled by the flight scenes? Not at all?

No, I wasn't excited. You probably think I'm pretending to prove a point, but I really wasn't. The panther scene was tedious beyond belief and went on eye-rollingly long, and the first flight sequence might as well have been a red neon sign saying FEEL AWE AND WONDER NOW.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #783 on:** February 04, 2010, 12:42:18 PM »

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #784 on:** February 04, 2010, 01:25:42 PM »

To clarify, the panther sequence was interminably boring because it served absolutely no purpose. The story beat was obviously "Jake gets separated from the others, meets up with the Na'vi." As soon as you twig to that, the chase is just killing time, as "exciting" as Jurassic Park: The Ride. Wow, a guy took off his backpack! In slow-motion 3D!

zzzz ha hork listening

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #785 on:** February 04, 2010, 02:15:37 PM »

Quote from: Jinfash Akbar on February 04, 2010, 02:10:35 PM

Pandora looked amazing, I can't deny that, but I hate how Cameron has put so much work into creating it that he tried FORCING the audience to appreciate every detail. You had characters first getting hyped to see a place ("OH MY GOD WE'RE GOING TO THE HALLELUJAH MOUNTAINS", a moment later music that is so desperate to invoke awe starts playing, then if that wasn't enough every human in that scene would go in slow mo "AWWWW WOW". I hate it when a director's attempt to manipulate the feelings of the audience is so blatantly obvious with no hint of subtlety. I mean give me a moment to appreciate that myself without having the on-screen actors directing me how I should react.

Yes, absolutely. I mean, the "Hallelujah Mountains"? Really? It's not enough that they're floating in space with huge plants and waterfalls? We have to get soaring emotional cues, close-ups of people's awed faces, and more often than not people saying "This is extremely impressive!" The voiceovers were a big part of this emotional force-feeding, too.

It's kind of ironic that a movie whose greatest strength and selling point in its visuals got lost in the "show, don't tell" woods.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #786 on:** February 04, 2010, 02:19:22 PM »

Quote from: Jinfash Akbar on February 04, 2010, 02:10:35 PM

Edit: I don't have time to proof read my review, if anyone has any problems with my spelling and grammar... go pleasure your rear with your bare fist.

lawl *two thumbs up*

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #787 on:** February 04, 2010, 02:31:32 PM »

Yeah, Green Shinobi asked me how I would vote, now, having seen the movie, and the answer is FURFAG TOTAL. Avatar is the biggest budget episode of the Disney Afternoon ... ever.

Powerslave · « **Reply #788 on:** February 04, 2010, 05:47:24 PM »

Quote from: T EXP on February 04, 2010, 06:44:05 AM

I think the theater in walking distance is only going to show Avatar for a couple more weeks. If I don't see it before then, I'll probably never see it.

you don't have to keep updating us about this, no one cares.

Ichirou · « **Reply #789 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:02:22 PM »

There's nothing worse than trying to have a mature discussion with a medium intellect. I don't know why Patel & co. keep trying.

Ichirou · « **Reply #790 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:18:42 PM »

God, the film discussion in this place has fallen so far since TVC left.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #791 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:18:58 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on February 04, 2010, 08:13:20 PM

I scored around 160 on the IQ test, dude. Prole is the only person on this forum that I KNOW scored higher.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #792 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:19:48 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on February 04, 2010, 08:18:42 PM

God, the film discussion in this place has fallen so far since TVC left.

You just think so because your IQ is lower than Glen Shinobi's.

Ichirou · « **Reply #793 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:20:38 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on February 04, 2010, 08:18:58 PM

Quote from: Green Shinobi on February 04, 2010, 08:13:20 PM
I scored around 160 on the IQ test, dude. Prole is the only person on this forum that I KNOW scored higher.

Holy fuck, he's quoting IQ tests as evidence of his intellect now?

omgggggg I can't stop laughing

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on February 04, 2010, 08:19:48 PM

Quote from: Ichirou on February 04, 2010, 08:18:42 PM
God, the film discussion in this place has fallen so far since TVC left.

You just think so because your IQ is lower than Glen Shinobi's.

Well, I took an IQ test and scored 161. Glen Shinobi owned. Annihilated.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #794 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:22:33 PM »

Green Shinobi has to be trolling us all. There is no other explanation

Ichirou · « **Reply #795 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:23:52 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 04, 2010, 08:22:33 PM

Green Shinobi has to be trolling us all. There is no other explanation

Yes there is, you just don't have an IQ high enough to understand it.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #796 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:23:53 PM »

Yeah, I've already settled on the theory that he's been trolling for awhile now. Nobody is this stupid.

Ichirou · « **Reply #797 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:25:15 PM »

Hey buddy, his IQ TESTS say otherwise.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #798 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:26:38 PM »

The only person he knows with a higher IQ is Prole. How? I do not know.

(Also, Prole is not the only MENSA candidate that posts here.)

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #799 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:27:03 PM »

I only scored 135, but even I knew it was better to just bail out.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #800 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:27:11 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on February 04, 2010, 08:26:23 PM

Pretty sure it's not the place of a 22 year old virgin, an overweight hack writer and a guy who got swindled by Himuro to call my intellect into question.

What do any of those things have to do with intellect? You annihilated yourself with that reply!

Ichirou · « **Reply #801 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:28:11 PM »

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on February 04, 2010, 08:26:38 PM

The only person he knows with a higher IQ is Prole. How? I do not know.

(Also, Prole is not the only MENSA candidate that posts here.)

He's the only one Glen Shinobi recognizes as an intellectual equal.

Which is kind of an insult to Prole IMO.

EDIT: Also, it wasn't even Himuro who swindled me. Glen Shinobi is no Sherlock Holmes - he's just shy a few IQ points for that, apparently.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #802 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:32:46 PM »

Smarts have nothing to do with me not getting laid breh. Last time I checked Willco, while not as ahead of the game as Shake, IS writing shit that might get picked up. And Ichi got his money from Himu so....

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #803 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:33:32 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on February 04, 2010, 08:23:52 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 04, 2010, 08:22:33 PM
Green Shinobi has to be trolling us all. There is no other explanation

Yes there is, you just don't have an IQ high enough to understand it.

Blue or Jinfash, please add some schoolmarm glasses to

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #804 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:33:42 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on February 04, 2010, 08:28:11 PM

Quote from: The Fake Shemp on February 04, 2010, 08:26:38 PM
The only person he knows with a higher IQ is Prole. How? I do not know.

(Also, Prole is not the only MENSA candidate that posts here.)

He's the only one Glen Shinobi recognizes as an intellectual equal.

Which is kind of an insult to Prole IMO.

Didn't Prole buy a PSP Go?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #805 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:34:36 PM »

I'm okay with being a hack writer. It pays the bills. I have no desire to write anything that Glen Shinobi wants to see!

Mandark is pretty smart, but I already knew this - since we went to the same magnet program.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #806 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:35:46 PM »

I'd put money on recursivelyenumerable being the smartest one here.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #807 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:37:44 PM »

I'd settle for Lorenzo Semple, Jr.

Ichirou · « **Reply #808 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:38:12 PM »

Green Shinobi considers Solo to be on par with him intellectually? Why am I not surprised?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #809 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:41:47 PM »

While as awesome as it would have been to bully Mandark into doing my homework, he graduated two (maybe three) classes ahead of me. Besides, we were in the humanities and communication magnet program, which didn't have a ton of busy work. I had a ton of projects, like filming shitty game shows and reading college-level literature.

The regular classes I enrolled in were full of painful busy work. $:-\$

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #810 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:43:37 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on February 04, 2010, 08:38:12 PM

Green Shinobi considers Solo to be on par with him intellectually? Why am I not surprised?

Hey, don't insult Solo like that. We don't see eye to eye a lot, but he is good peoples!

Ichirou · « **Reply #811 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:45:11 PM »

While I understand that you would consider Solo being compared to Green Shinobi an insult, I just found it funny because obviously the only reason he's listed is because he shares GS's opinion regarding Avatar. None of his posts on movies have ever struck me as particularly insightful and it seems like all he watches are the big blockbuster movies since I've never even heard him talk about something even semi-obscure.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #812 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:47:10 PM »

This one year, he only went to the theater SIXTEEN times? WTF??

Such a mainstreamer.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #813 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:47:12 PM »

Solo really doesn't, though. Glen Shinobi has kind of rewrote history on that one. Solo really liked it, but he conceded that the film had major flaws. His entire argument was built around the fact that he enjoyed it as a spectacle film, and that's about all.

He didn't feel the need to defend it against criticisms leveled at its screenplay, because he knew it wasn't a particularly well-written film.

He laughed off accusations that it was merely Dances in Wolves in space, because he knew that was true - but it didn't impair his ability to enjoy it. Glen Shinobi can't handle the fact that Avatar is just a spectacle film. It has to be better than that.

Himu · « **Reply #814 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:48:01 PM »

Jesus Christ, Shinobi. You need a lesson in trolling or something and that number one lesson is to know when to bail out. Fuck. In fact, you're not even trolling. You must TRULY BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE POSTING in order to keep defending yourself in this position for well over two months.

Look, there's nothing wrong with liking Avatar. I saw it twice and thoroughly enjoyed it both times, for my own reasons that have nothing to do with furrydom. But there's a difference between finding something enjoyable and defending it to your grave like you have done here.

Also, I never swindled anyone. What is this about IQ? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

Barry Egan · « **Reply #815 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:48:13 PM »

I have no doubt that GS has cognitive intelligence, but if posting habits on EB were an emotional intelligence test, he'd probably land pretty far on the left of normal distribution.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #816 on:** February 04, 2010, 08:51:12 PM »

The guy who praises The Resistance and Avatar is questioning people's intelligence. Come on

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #817 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:14:50 PM »

well as much as I hate to throw more fuel on this fire, since you asked:

I would say that someone who likes Avatar as much as you and Solo do probably hasn't seen that many movies, played that many games, or read that many books. The emotional context of the movie is such a slapped together pastiche from so many different, incongruent sources that the only way it could move you emotionally is if you're such a cultural shut-in you're experiencing these feelings in the theater for more-or-less the first time.

Sorry! That's mean! But, I mean, that's how I would explain it. I guess you probably have an alternative explanation.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #818 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:17:00 PM »

I'm pretty sure he did not (advocate a Best Picture nomination):

Quote from: Solo

Avatar will get a Best Picture nom, Im sure of that. Will or or should it win? Of course not.

And to further demolish this argument:

Quote from: Solo

Its the most rousingly successful spectacle feature Ive ever seen, and the emotional moments work, in spite of Cameron's dialogue. The films flaws lie wholly on paper. The spectacle is, well, spectacular, and the actors for the most part do well do lift their characters above what was obviously hollow on paper.

In short, nothing has changed since the first day this released: weak screenplay, awesomesauce everything else. Of course, a weak script is usually the killer, but in an event movie like this, its easier to relax your standards.

Sounds like he basically said all the criticisms leveled against it are valid! Crazy!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #819 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:19:55 PM »

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #820 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:21:47 PM »

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I don't discuss film with anyone who has an IQ lower than 160.

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Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #821 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:21:59 PM »

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"Green Shinobi, I hope you're ready for your spanking!"

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Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #822 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:24:16 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on February 04, 2010, 09:22:29 PM

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on February 04, 2010, 09:14:50 PM
well as much as I hate to throw more fuel on this fire, since you asked:

I would say that someone who likes Avatar as much as you and Solo do probably hasn't seen that many movies, played that many games, or read that many books.

And you'd be right about the games part, but wrong about everything else. What then?

I would say, "You asked me what explanation I would give and I gave it, my work here is done!"

Then I would go home from work!

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #823 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:24:31 PM »

160 is in the 99.997th percentile. It's also suspiciously exactly four standard deviations above the mean.

Look, if people don't believe you're extremely bright based on your posts--and I'm not saying you're not--they're unlikely to be swayed by a number.

Quote from: Jinfash Akbar on February 04, 2010, 09:19:32 PM

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Like this?

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #824 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:25:27 PM »

Barry Egan · « **Reply #825 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:28:04 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on February 04, 2010, 09:26:27 PM

Would you just admit that people have different opinions and leave it at that, as I have been advocating all along?

weird how you wouldn't let me have my own opinion for Good Burger if this is what you've been advocating

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #826 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:30:11 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on February 04, 2010, 09:26:27 PM

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on February 04, 2010, 09:24:16 PM
I would say, "You asked me what explanation I would give and I gave it, my work here is done!"

Then I would go home from work!

So I would ask you: what explanation would you give for someone who has read a lot of books and watched a lot of movies and still thinks Avatar is worthy of a Best Picture nomination?

Would you just admit that people have different opinions and leave it at that, as I have been advocating all along?

Sure, lots of people have lots of different opinions! But some of those opinions are wrong.

Do you think "Shakespeare was a hack and in 2010 we shouldn't pay any attention to his plays" is a valid opinion? It's certainly an opinion some people hold.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #827 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:32:07 PM »

Jinfash

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #828 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:37:57 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on February 04, 2010, 09:33:26 PM

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on February 04, 2010, 09:30:11 PM
Sure, lots of people have lots of different opinions! But some of those opinions are wrong.

Do you think "Shakespeare was a hack and in 2010 we shouldn't pay any attention to his plays" is a valid opinion? It's certainly an opinion some people hold.

How likely is it that anyone who has actually read a lot of Shakespeare and studied the art of writing would ever have an opinion like that?

...about the same as someone who's actually seen a lot of movies thinking Avatar deserves a Best Picture nomination.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #829 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:48:40 PM »

Are you arguing that Hollywood knows what makes a good movie? Because that would run counter to your claim that you've seen a lot of movies.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #830 on:** February 04, 2010, 10:15:36 PM »

as the sole forum poster who has an announced iq over 160, i would like to offer my thoughts on this whole ridiculous spectacle

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uguu~

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Flannel Boy · « **Reply #831 on:** February 04, 2010, 10:20:02 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on February 04, 2010, 10:15:36 PM

as the sole forum poster who has an announced iq over 160, i would like to offer my thoughts on this whole ridiculous spectacle

spoiler (click to show/hide)
uguu~
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Brevity is the soul of wit.

Diunx · « **Reply #832 on:** February 04, 2010, 10:37:33 PM »

Can someone with an IQ of 160 or more explain to me wtf is this suppose to be? :usavich

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #833 on:** February 04, 2010, 10:46:04 PM »

Quote from: Diunx on February 04, 2010, 10:37:33 PM

Can someone with an IQ of 160 or more explain to me wtf is this suppose to be? :usavich

You don't need an IQ over 160 to know that that's Usavich and he's pretty boss.

Ichirou · « **Reply #834 on:** February 04, 2010, 11:08:28 PM »

Damn, Willco just locked my awesome thread because he's obviously jealous he doesn't have a 160 IQ and couldn't participate on the same intellectual level as Green Shinobi and myself.

It's hard scoring 160 on an IQ test. I can feel people's jealousy, it's like a dagger stabbing me through the heart.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #835 on:** February 04, 2010, 11:09:18 PM »

It's true. $:-\$

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #836 on:** February 04, 2010, 11:11:17 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on February 04, 2010, 08:13:20 PM

Quote from: Ichirou on February 04, 2010, 08:02:22 PM
There's nothing worse than trying to have a mature discussion with a medium intellect. I don't know why Patel & co. keep trying.

I scored around 160 on the IQ test, dude. Prole is the only person on this forum that I KNOW scored higher.

Also, you're the last person who should lecture anyone on mature discussions.

What IQ test?

Seriously. I'd like to know. Part of my profession is administering them.

Ichirou · « **Reply #837 on:** February 04, 2010, 11:12:28 PM »

Sometimes I worry that my brain will get so heavy and filled with intelligence that my neck will snap. I'm sure GS feels the same way, these are the types of problems that only people with high IQs have to deal with.

Ichirou · « **Reply #838 on:** February 04, 2010, 11:14:56 PM »

I know that I'll end up like this someday and it frightens me. Why did I have to take that IQ test? I would have been better off not knowing of my eventual fate...

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #839 on:** February 04, 2010, 11:16:54 PM »

Back in my graduate school cohort we were afraid to test each other. We were all afraid to find out how stupid we were.

Now I don't think you could get an accurate score from me on those, seeing how I've memorized every single question and answer.

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