Random Gaming Talk Thread

[Pissy F Benny]

Funny how the paid shit never breaks that badly tho

[MMaRsu]

https://twitter.com/DrDisrespect/status/1609230547271970816

No other streamer does it better

[MMaRsu]

Something good to start of 2023

[Bebpo]

Put together my gaming top10 of 2022, though I cheated cause I wanted to include Edith Finch because it was great.

Top 10 of 2022 - Any release year
1. Elden Ring
2. Gran Turismo 7
3. Signalis
4. Northern Journey
5. Horizon Zero Dawn + Frozen Wilds
6. Abzu
7. Zachtronics Solitaire Collection
8. Return to Monkey Island
9. Guardians of the Galaxy
10. GoW Ragnarok
11. What Remains of Edith Finch

Top10 2022 titles only
1. Elden Ring
2. Gran Turismo 7
3. Signalis
4. Zachtronics Solitaire
5. Return to Monkey Island
6. GoW Ragnarok
7. Strangers In Paradise: FF Origin
8. Pentiment
9. Horizon II: Forbidden West
10. Xenoblade 3

Pretty good year for 2022 new releases I'd say.

[Polident Hive]

Elden Ring is an easy number one. But I’m fairly certain it’s the only new game I bought this year. Everything else new was gamepass. As a result, a top five there would be along the lines of: Powerwash Simulator, Sniper Elite 5, Tunic, Vampire Survivors, Signalis.

[Nintex]

Rumor from 4chan that Fable 4 development has been rebooted and the game has been moved to UE4 and is now slated for Q4 2024.

https://twitter.com/IdleSloth84_/status/1609994033962831875

With this news doing the rounds I suspect Microsoft will have to give some clarity on the project soon.
I've heard about some troubles and development difficulties to make the Forza Horizon engine work for an ARPG game with most new team members having no experience in the Forza engine.

People thinking this is moving to UE5 should take note that UE5 isn't ready either.

[Pissy F Benny]

I'm shocked that the studio full of racing game specialists are having trouble with making an action RPG in an engine made specifically for racing games

It would be as silly as asking Hideo Kojima to develop NBA 2k24 in Decima

[Tasty]

Rumor from 4chan that Fable 4 development has been rebooted and the game has been moved to UE4 and is now slated for Q4 2024.

So they're gonna Duke Forever this bitch and switch to UE5 when 6 comes out?

[MMaRsu]

Announced wayyy too early, classic MS. WHAT FUCKING GAMES DO GHEY HAVE?

[Nintex]

It would be as silly as asking Hideo Kojima to develop NBA 2k24 in Decima

People really underestimated the importance of what Kojima did, shopping around for suitable engines before diving head first into development and starting with a single platform.
It has allowed him to make 2 games within this generation.

Other studios that ship on schedule use their own tech (Capcom/Insomniac) or simply aim lower (Square Enix/Bandai Namco).

Microsoft should've handed Fable to Rare. Something like Sea of Thieves is much closer to Fable in terms of gameplay and structure than Forza and giving it a flat shaded stylized look as opposed to going for realism and using the Sea of Thieves engine would've cut development time. Now they have Rare doing Everwild, for which they still haven't figured out the gameplay and Playground Studios working on Fable, who have never made a third person action-adventure game before.

I think the 'biggest' game closest to completion is actually Perfect Dark from Crystal Dynamics because CD is developing it and not Microsoft.

This year is probably Red Fall/Forza/Starfield in the first half and with a little luck Perfect Dark in the fall.

[bork]

[Nintex]

Already 60 JRPG's coming this year and we haven't even gotten the first Direct where they drop another dozen or so 

[Bebpo]

Since Fallout 76 was free this month on PSN, it got me thinking about it for a sec and so like the whole point of Bethesda games are the 8,000 mods to make them actually somewhat good maybe. But since Fallout 76 is an online MMO/GAAS, I'm assuming you can't use mods because it has security protections in place? That sounds like a terrible idea if so.

[Pissy F Benny]

I'm surprised they're still trucking on with it, the handful of whales they have must be very lucrative for them

[benjipwns]

I'm shocked that the studio full of racing game specialists are having trouble with making an action RPG in an engine made specifically for racing games

It would be as silly as asking Hideo Kojima to develop NBA 2k24 in Decima

If only there was a gigantic gaming company that had mandated everyone in the company switch to an engine made specifically for FPSes that was lacking all kinds of essential features and tools if expanded beyond that genre and how this fucked all kinds of their projects for years until one studio in a special position defied management and used UE4 to create the companies most successful Star Wars game in an otherwise complete waste of a license. If something like that had happened maybe someone else in the industry might have noticed this potential issue.

[Bebpo]

I'm surprised they're still trucking on with it, the handful of whales they have must be very lucrative for them

I mean I've heard it's actually "good" now and has been that way for a year or two.

But this is mostly coming from people that are Bethesda fans in the first place.

[Tasty]

spoiler (click to show/hide)

GI Jane 2

[close]

got me good.

[Tasty]

Moved.

[Nintex]

My bro had this to say about the Fable rumors and some other things
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[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/_XboxNews/status/1610971587016101891

Another setback for microsoft.

[Joe Molotov]

Why do the Country Music Awards have the final say?

[Potato]

My bro had this to say about the Fable rumors and some other things
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So, basically, the conditions for generational change in the video game industry are still not right, but the problem is that we are two+ years into a new generation.

This is the most pointless video game generation ever and these machines are basically functioning as a PS4 Pro+ and XBox One X+.

What is the point of this generation outside of playing previous generation games at a slightly higher fidelity (which the PS4 Pro and XBO-X were already doing)?

[Tasty]

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2023/01/05/vertical-ps5-consoles-damage-liquid-metal-cooling-repair-shops-rumor/



I feel like every Sony console has issues with putting it vertical even if they say it's supported...

[chronovore]

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2023/01/05/vertical-ps5-consoles-damage-liquid-metal-cooling-repair-shops-rumor/



I feel like every Sony console has issues with putting it vertical even if they say it's supported...

Shit, I've been wondering about this. My PS5 shuts itself off every once in a while. I thought it was the HDMI hub, but now it's connected directly to the TV and it still does it. I'll put it horizontal, see if it helps.

[Raist]

The PS5 console uses a liquid metal cooling system for the APU. In most consoles, the APU and its cooling system will be pressed too tightly together for gravity to be a problem, and most of the 30 million PS5 owners will never have this issue. However, in PS5 consoles where the seal has been damaged, the metal can become uneven or even spill over time when the console is stored vertically, affecting the efficiency of the cooling system.

I mean, if the seal is fucked it's probably not great regardless of how the console is positioned.

[Joe Molotov]

Then the liquid metal escapes and reforms into the T-1000 and kills your parents.

[Svejk]

My PSFif will forever stand up at this size....

[Nintex]

AMD chips with cooling problems? Now that's something you don't see every day 


https://twitter.com/seaofstarsgame/status/1611376645000101888

[Potato]

Ubisoft are really aiming to take EA's crown as the biggest cancer on gaming.

Sister in law bought my kids Just Dance 2023 for Christmas and they finally got around to playing it. Turns out you can't play local multiplayer with your own profiles, only online.

They turned it off and put 2021 back in.

Fuck you Ubishit.

[Nintex]

No local play in Just Dance? Isn't that like the only reason the game exists?

[Tasty]

No local play in Just Dance? Isn't that like the only reason the game exists?

It's probably like MK8, you can choose your user profile for player 1 but the others use "Player #" and don't track your stats.

Which is something Smash got right back on Melee...

[Potato]

No local play in Just Dance? Isn't that like the only reason the game exists?

No local play in Just Dance? Isn't that like the only reason the game exists?

It's probably like MK8, you can choose your user profile for player 1 but the others use "Player #" and don't track your stats.

Which is something Smash got right back on Melee...

[Nintex]

Thinking about selling a bunch of games. By now I have
1 generation of SEGA games (MegaDrive, GameGear)
3 generations of Xbox games (360, One|X, Series X)
6 generations of Nintendo console games (NES, SNES, GameCube, Wii, Wii U, Switch)
3 generations of Nintendo handheld games (GBA, DS, 3DS)
physical PC games ('big box' as well as standard DVD cases)

I think I'm going to start selling things I bought just for collecting (SEGA) that has no nostalgic value and then move on to selling games that aren't rare or I also own on other systems.
I have 80 Wii games for example because I used to get review copies. But I'm never going to play shit like Red Steel, Need for Speed Nitro or Sim City Creator again nor will those increase in value.

[Svejk]

Selling everything and go full digital.  Be free of clutter. 

[bork]

Selling everything and go full digital.  Be free of clutter. 

Didn't you start buying physical Switch games?

[Svejk]

Selling everything and go full digital.  Be free of clutter. 

Didn't you start buying physical Switch games?

Certainly didn't want to, but seeing that somehow switch games hold their value for some weird reason and practically never drop in price digitally, it had me up against the ropes....  I hate it.  Then again, I only have 10 physical games, so thank goodness it hasn't taken up much space.  If I could, I would trade it all towards a PSVR2.

[archnemesis]

Switching to digital isn't cheaper, but the convenience is worth it to me. Especially when multiple users are using the same system.

[Potato]

Thinking about selling a bunch of games. By now I have
1 generation of SEGA games (MegaDrive, GameGear)
3 generations of Xbox games (360, One|X, Series X)
6 generations of Nintendo console games (NES, SNES, GameCube, Wii, Wii U, Switch)
3 generations of Nintendo handheld games (GBA, DS, 3DS)
physical PC games ('big box' as well as standard DVD cases)

I think I'm going to start selling things I bought just for collecting (SEGA) that has no nostalgic value and then move on to selling games that aren't rare or I also own on other systems.
I have 80 Wii games for example because I used to get review copies. But I'm never going to play shit like Red Steel, Need for Speed Nitro or Sim City Creator again nor will those increase in value.

I sold a bunch of GBA and GB games and a few old EGM magazines a while ago. Made a few hundred dollars.

[Tasty]

Was this thread briefly locked?

[bork]

Was this thread briefly locked?

Yup, sorry- no conspiracy theories here though unless this randomly happening when I write replies on my phone every now and then counts.

[Nintex]

For PC I've been all Digital for a while but I still prefer physical games and collectors editions and whatnot for Xbox and Switch.
It's just really all the old stuff that I'll never play again and has little value that I want to get rid off.
Every time a new console gen drops I'm sure I'll hook up my old console again sometime but once they go into the box I never do.

And when I do want to play older games there's Switch Online, GamePass, Steam, NES Classic, SNES Classic and plenty of other options not to mention that most of the bigger games either have sequels or remakes at this point that are superior to the original releases.

[bork]

One Piece Odyssey demo is up on Japanese PSN- has English.

[bork]

For PC I've been all Digital for a while but I still prefer physical games and collectors editions and whatnot for Xbox and Switch.

I don't think physical is an even an option for PC anymore. At least not in North America.

[MMaRsu]

https://twitter.com/HiFightTH/status/1612452562657226754

[Bebpo]

One Piece Odyssey demo is up on Japanese PSN- has English.

Save carries over, but no PC demo and can't save until you beat it after 2 hours in lol. Rest mode for the rescue I guess.

Will try the US PS5 demo tomorrow. Dunno if I'd grab it on PS5 or PC if I do like it.

[Beezy]

Are people expecting this game to be good? I haven't been following it.

[bork]

One Piece Odyssey demo is up on Japanese PSN- has English.

Save carries over, but no PC demo and can't save until you beat it after 2 hours in lol. Rest mode for the rescue I guess.

Oh, is that it?  I was wondering why they said progress transfers over but the save points don't work.

Will try the US PS5 demo tomorrow. Dunno if I'd grab it on PS5 or PC if I do like it.

I'm gonna get it on Steam if the port is good- mainly for Steam Deck.

Are people expecting this game to be good? I haven't been following it.

It felt like a pretty decent turn-based RPG to me from the time I spent with the demo. 

[Bebpo]

Are people expecting this game to be good? I haven't been following it.

I think there's some interest from non-One Piece fans because it looks like a Dragon Quest XI clone.

I never have high expectations for anime games, so idk not expecting a lot but if it's good that's cool. I always thought the One Piece IP would be good for an rpg where you go around the world map doing island arcs, but this seems more like an original story thing with some flashbacks to various arcs from the manga. Just don't know if that will be satisfying.

[demi]

Are people expecting this game to be good? I haven't been following it.

Anime is for the detrimental but it looks like it's a decent Dragon Quest. Not playing the demo because I plan on support JRPGs on Xbox as Jesus would have

[Joe Molotov]

Turn everything into a DQ clone, it worked for Yakuza.

[Bebpo]

Tried the One Piece demo. Was fucking terrible. Everything from cutscenes to traversal to battle. Aka, your usual anime game. At least the Dynasty Warrior anime games are usually fun because the DW team knows how to make a fun DW game by now (well outside exceptions..)

I don't get for such a big IP like One Piece why Namco Bandai doesn't just get the B-team of Tales Studio or something to make it. Like someone that knows how to make fun rpgs.

I think this is the one by the support studio that helped out with DQXI, but I don't think they've ever designed/directed anything themselves and it shows.

[bork]

What was so bad about it?  It felt like a typical JRPG to me, albeit pretty limited in the beginning.

[tiesto]

That's a shame. I've never gotten into One Piece, but it looking very similar to DQXI and being a gorgeous turn based RPG certainly got my eye.

[bork]

That's a shame. I've never gotten into One Piece, but it looking very similar to DQXI and being a gorgeous turn based RPG certainly got my eye.

Try the demo!

Bebpo isn't alone with that opinion though.  So maybe Pirate Warriors will remain the best OP games.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/1612751615991205888

"Some of the leaders" is Xbot speak for: The whole goddamn management walked out 

Tom Butcher, Lead Producer.
Matt Craven, Technical Director
Gareth Harwood, Technical Art Director
Fraser Stachan, Audio Director
Ben Penrose, Art Director
Mike Brown, Creative Director

[Bebpo]

What was so bad about it?  It felt like a typical JRPG to me, albeit pretty limited in the beginning.

-Cutscene direction was terrible so all of the story bits sucked
-Moving around and traversal feels stiff and bad. They are afraid to just make it feels smooth like a 3d action/platformer game but they're trying to make it more than just a walk forward rpg, so it just comes off as a crappy controlling 3d movement game.
-Battle UI is terrible
-Battles are slow
-Writing was not good (Usopp gets freaked out like 20 times in the demo)
-One Piece character designs and proportions don't work that well with this visual style.
-Music was nothing special.

Don't think there was anything to actual like about the demo besides the shiny graphics. Even then, on PS5 the quality mode feels shitty and performance mode looks soft.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/Chris_Dring/status/1612751615991205888

"Some of the leaders" is Xbot speak for: The whole goddamn management walked out 

Tom Butcher, Lead Producer.
Matt Craven, Technical Director
Gareth Harwood, Technical Art Director
Fraser Stachan, Audio Director
Ben Penrose, Art Director
Mike Brown, Creative Director

Maverick?

 

[headwalk]

i've gone back to try and finish cyberpunk. some parts i really enjoy (the combat, most of the characterisation) but someone needs to sit down their mission design team and explain to them that being told by an NPC to walk up to a generic interactive element, press F, then wait for the next bit of dialogue before doing it again to a different generic interactive element is not gameplay. it's anti gameplay. it's worse than QTEs.

like i just did a mission where i supposed to set up a sting, i had to turn on a generator, hack a network, break into a lab etc etc. except i didn't do any of those things, i didn't even do a gamified approximation of those things, i just walked up to each thing under instruction and pressed F.

is there anybody who enjoys this shit?

[HardcoreRetro]

Breaking the game on the way there is pretty fun. The objectives themself. Eh...

I liked the mission where you're not allowed weapons but the game didn't take into account my gorilla arms.

[paprikastaude]

i've gone back to try and finish cyberpunk. some parts i really enjoy (the combat, most of the characterisation) but someone needs to sit down their mission design team and explain to them that being told by an NPC to walk up to a generic interactive element, press F, then wait for the next bit of dialogue before doing it again to a different generic interactive element is not gameplay. it's anti gameplay. it's worse than QTEs.

like i just did a mission where i supposed to set up a sting, i had to turn on a generator, hack a network, break into a lab etc etc. except i didn't do any of those things, i didn't even do a gamified approximation of those things, i just walked up to each thing under instruction and pressed F.

is there anybody who enjoys this shit?

Dumb casuals. Or at least that's what publishers think - yet something like Elden Ring still was able to become a breakthrough hit. Maybe some developers finally take notice, but probably not, because it's much harder to make real level design, especially in an open world. No wonder idiots from Ubisoft/Sony tried to trash Elden Ring's supposed "bad quest design" after launch. There's no hope for the open world genre. Though it's creeping into other genres too. I remember a presentation of that last shitty Batman game, in which they "explored" a mansion or whatever. Basically, hold your stick towards the glowing footsteps for several minutes, click through a fake puzzle that literally solves itself, get into a button-mashey battle for cheap dopamine when EXP drops afterwards. Yes, this is worse than QTE, it's mobile game design.