Random Gaming Talk Thread

[Nintex]

So whats up with chicks with big noses

yay or nay

Yay for me but I guess you find them harder to choke 

[Great Rumbler]

she looks much more like the quiet man than leeloo dallas multipass

Quiet Man has a much more powerful jaw.

[benjipwns]

you guys focusing too much on the face instead of that nasty ass shoulder texture

[EchoRin]

Her face looks more like Natalie Portman if you ask me.

Edit: fuck. Nintex thought the same

[toku]

sharp knee ass niccas

[benjipwns]

there's more polygons in those knees than in the entire original Jill model

probably

[Raist]

Her face looks more like Natalie Portman if you ask me.

Edit: fuck. Nintex thought the same

I'll help you, I think Portman is a bit more like it too. Still off by some margin though.

But a lot closer than Milla fucking Jovovich

[MMaRsu]

So whats up with chicks with big noses

yay or nay

Yay for me but I guess you find them harder to choke 

Ive never choked a woman honestly but i wouldnt choke her around the nose lol

[Don Rumata]

Her face looks more like Natalie Portman if you ask me.

Edit: fuck. Nintex thought the same

I'll help you, I think Portman is a bit more like it too. Still off by some margin though.

But a lot closer than Milla fucking Jovovich

Hope they never call you up to identify someone on a police lineup. 

Anyway, how about we compromise between Jovovich and Portman, and settle on her looking like Luc Besson? 

[Rufus]

I played like 40 minutes of Prey, and then spent a bunch more time trying to get decent AA going. I don't want to get hung up on this, but it's genuinely bad. Shimmering edges everywhere and I can't get over it.

So I thought I'd just supersample an be done with it, but no, DSR won't work right. It just centers the image, no matter what scaling option I use. The AA overrides in the Nvidia control panel (why is it so janky, btw?) don't seem to do anything either and I can't inject anything with Reshade, because it's UWP.

[Great Rumbler]

[Don Rumata]

Their work on Hitman really elevated that campaign.
The still images in Hitman 2 are kind of a massive downgrade by comparison.

Also this trailer:


 

[D3RANG3D]

https://www.gog.com/game/vampire_the_masquerade_coteries_of_new_york

[bork]

I dunno brehs... I see Natalie Portman more so than Milla.   

Same.  She looks like Natalie.

[bork]

[bork]

https://twitter.com/janeshishlyann/status/1204839516516896770

I still see Natalie Portman's face. 

[Don Rumata]

https://twitter.com/janeshishlyann/status/1204839516516896770

I still see Natalie Portman's face. 

And the nerd stalking commences. 

[nachobro]

Jill will return to your screens to tell his story

capcom the bravest of all developers!

[Svejk]

https://twitter.com/janeshishlyann/status/1204839516516896770

I still see Natalie Portman's face. 

The resemblance is as broken as her English. 

[bork]

Jill will return to your screens to tell his story

capcom the bravest of all developers!

Time for an RE3 thread title update!

[Joe Molotov]

NB Jill is my xaifu

[D3RANG3D]

[Beezy]

[EchoRin]

Electric Playground doing what it does best. Interviews.

[Coax]

Is The Messenger worth playing? Liked the look of it from the beginning but only now getting around to considering buying it.

Read some critical user impressions that the second half is backtracking prior levels for padding, some controls for later mechanics are unintuitive/inconsistent and the trope references said to be on the nose.

Could be such criticisms are exaggerating those aspects though. Just hope it'd be something that is entertaining enough from start to finish since I enjoyed throwback platformers like Shovel Knight.

[Svejk]

That was one of his best.    Fuck that game.

[Bebpo]

Is The Messenger worth playing? Liked the look of it from the beginning but only now getting around to considering buying it.

Read some critical user impressions that the second half is backtracking prior levels for padding, some controls for later mechanics are unintuitive/inconsistent and the trope references said to be on the nose.

Could be such criticisms are exaggerating those aspects though. Just hope it'd be something that is entertaining enough from start to finish since I enjoyed throwback platformers like Shovel Knight.

I really liked the first half and thought it was very well written in a parody way with good gameplay.

I gave up before finishing the first half though because so many people told me the second half is awful and not worth the time to play it :|

It's great. the humor can be too meta and grating but nothing too bad IMO. Easy to tune out. The level design and mechanics are fantastic though.

I would say the second half is weaker but it has it's own highlights and the game isn't very long so the metroidvania parts, while weaker, don't overstay their welcome.

I highly recommend it. One of the better side scrollers of the era.

Hmmm, maybe I'll get back to it. You're literally the first person I've heard not say the 2nd half is trash and not worth playing.

[Bebpo]

Saw that Travis Strikes Again, Gris, and Katana Zero are on sale on Nintendo eshop for about 50% off. Any reason to get these on switch over PC?

[Bebpo]

Trying out these Game Awards demos.

System Shock - Seems fine. My impression was that SS1 was kinda so-so in the first place and SS2 was the amazing one. Dunno how exciting this SS1 remake will be.

Skatebird - Holy F^(%#K this is the worst camera since a 3d Sonic game. Not very fun to play either. Seems very much a "hey isn't this a cool idea" game for screenshots but doesn't seem like it'll be any good.

[Bebpo]

Acid Knife - Some good ideas in there. Inventory management is tough and interesting. Pretty solid start, could turn out good.

[Don Rumata]

Carrion is the only one i've played (weeks ago, actually) and it's a blast.

[Bebpo]

Yeah, beat the Carrion demo. It's fun but pretty much feel like got my fill from that level. Don't think I'd play the full thing.

[Don Rumata]

Yeah, beat the Carrion demo. It's fun but pretty much feel like got my fill from that level. Don't think I'd play the full thing.

I see what you mean, they definitely need some substantial power or upgrade that evolves the gameplay, as you progress.

[Bebpo]

Roki - Kinda neat theme adventure game but felt slow getting around. Has the problem with a lot of modern PnC games dumbing down for style that makes them zzz

The Drifter - Complete opposite. Total Lucasarts SCUMM engine throwback with inventory and everything. Was great and actually compelling enough to get me to finish the demo. Hopefully this turns out good because I'd play this through.

[Bebpo]

Interesting, Powerhoof who did Crawl (which got great reviews but being a multiplayer game wasn't my kinda thing) is a 2 person dev and they are each working on a game with Acid Knife & The Drifter. Pretty good stuff from these guys so far.

[Bebpo]

Haven - Really weird. Feels like trying to be sorta a Gravity Rush drifting & cooking life sim? Flying controls are pretty weird. By the dev that did Furi and I remember that was pretty weird too.

[Bebpo]

Eastward - Seems ok. Nice spritework, gameplay is alright. Just found it kinda boring and bailed after a little while. A lot of slow games make me sleepy these days. Need hooks to keep me interested.

[Bebpo]

Chicory - Seems cute and kids these days will like coloring in their own rpg town. Not my kinda thing.

Spiritfarer - Wow, this seemed amazing. Really fluid movement, crazy good animation, some building/crafting stuff, sailing around a world map. Then you get to the point where you sail somewhere and you have to actually sit and wait and fuck around for 10-20 mins or something while the boat sails there. I gave up about 60% of the way. I was 100% on board with the game but that one thing killed it entirely. If you could just sleep and fast forward to arriving at the next location I'd play this. Hope the final version gets around this.

[nachobro]

Skatebird - Holy F^(%#K this is the worst camera since a 3d Sonic game. Not very fun to play either. Seems very much a "hey isn't this a cool idea" game for screenshots but doesn't seem like it'll be any good.

[bork]

Saw that Travis Strikes Again, Gris, and Katana Zero are on sale on Nintendo eshop for about 50% off. Any reason to get these on switch over PC?

Gris and Katana Zero should be the same on both platforms- Dunno about Travis.  Is it being reviewed as a good PC port? 

[Bebpo]

Ok, played the rest of the demos.

Moving Out - Cute and funny little puzzle game. Not my thing but seems fine.

Heavenly Bodies - Lol, this game is probably good for its target audience of young'ins on twitch/tik-tok/whatever doing silly stuff. I don't dislike it but I just can't do games where you are fighting the controls the whole time  :'(

Wooden Nickel - Fine interactive fiction. Not bad but didn't feel like it does anything to really stand out.


So yeah, out of the 12 demos the only game I really liked was The Drifter. Everything else was fine but not stuff I'd play through (well I'll probably play SS1 remake at some point). Acid Knife & Carrion definitely have potential but gotta see where they end up.

[MMaRsu]

[Don Rumata]

Could pass for a current gen game, in my opinion.
Hopefully diminishing returns aren't already hitting this hard.

[Bebpo]

I mean outside of SSD speeding up loads we're definitely at the diminishing returns point.

I think the main difference for the next gen systems is gonna be:

-native 4k resolution @ 30fps
-SSD speeds

The issue imo is that it takes a fucking lot to push native 4k (yeah, I know some Xbox X stuff is native, but settings are generally lower than PC). Like with the specs for next-gen consoles they most likely will barely be able to push current-gen 1080p games at native 4k. My $3k brand new PC rig can't even run everything at 4k so I'm playing at 1440p. Once they get past that bottleneck of 4k resolution, we'll see improved lighting and stuff. SSD should give more freedom in design too.

I don't see 8k every being needed at home, so theoretically the PS6 generation should be really impressive since 4k will be a no brainer and leave a lot of extra power for visuals on top of that.

[Nintex]

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Could pass for a current gen game, in my opinion.
Hopefully diminishing returns aren't already hitting this hard.

It's just Randy Pissford scamming Sony out of some cash 
He's going to fuck over everyone involved in this deal 

[kingv]

I mean outside of SSD speeding up loads we're definitely at the diminishing returns point.

I think the main difference for the next gen systems is gonna be:

-native 4k resolution @ 30fps
-SSD speeds

The issue imo is that it takes a fucking lot to push native 4k (yeah, I know some Xbox X stuff is native, but settings are generally lower than PC). Like with the specs for next-gen consoles they most likely will barely be able to push current-gen 1080p games at native 4k. My $3k brand new PC rig can't even run everything at 4k so I'm playing at 1440p. Once they get past that bottleneck of 4k resolution, we'll see improved lighting and stuff. SSD should give more freedom in design too.

I don't see 8k every being needed at home, so theoretically the PS6 generation should be really impressive since 4k will be a no brainer and leave a lot of extra power for visuals on top of that.

I’d love it if next gen games each had “max detail” settings and “60 FPS” settings. It’s great on the few console games that have such things.

Hopefully next gen has much better cpus. We will hopefully see more going on there + the power of the cloud.

[Svejk]

That was one of his best.    Fuck that game.

It's the best Zelda game, Svejk. Get your priorities right.

I've tried... Several times... I can't even come close to it clicking for me.  It feels so dreary and fan made.. I agree with AVGN; if anything, the character development and world building may be good, but the actual game itself.. it doesn't resonate. 
  I'm just part of that minority I suppose.

[Svejk]

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Could pass for a current gen game, in my opinion.
Hopefully diminishing returns aren't already hitting this hard.

Is that suppose to be that Godfall(short)?  Looks like a PS4 game with better lighting basically.  Kinda expecting Ray Tracing on everything now... That'll be the new HDafied thing.  Bloodborne RT, GT Sport RT, etc.
 

[Bebpo]

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Could pass for a current gen game, in my opinion.
Hopefully diminishing returns aren't already hitting this hard.

Is that suppose to be that Godfall(short)?  Looks like a PS4 game with better lighting basically.  Kinda expecting Ray Tracing on everything now... That'll be the new HDafied thing.  Bloodborne RT, GT Sport RT, etc.
 

Ray-tracing at 4k and 30fps with good graphic settings?

Yeah, I don't see it. Unless they're not gonna do 4k and still gonna run 1440p checkerboard to fake 4k.

[BisMarckie]

Not being able to really see the difference.between 1440p and 4k

I will still buy these new boxes on day one

Bonus hot take: raytracing is a fad, it costs way too many resources for a kinda negligible result.

[Nintex]

Ray-tracing in CONTROL is insane and not what I expect to see in every game but a more balanced approach like in COD really helps to clear up shadows and the likes.

[Mr Gilhaney]

bad hot take. ray tracing is amazing.

[Bebpo]

It’s cool, but I agree not worth the resources unless you have extra to spend.

[Mr Gilhaney]

wish people would stop doxxing me like this.

https://youtu.be/589KoCn2ZdI?t=185

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x2kOiRJDlM&t=133s

[kingv]

Ray tracing is something I feel like I only notice when I’m looking for it.

Like it looks cool, but not enough that I ever would care about turning it on by sacrificing frame rate.

Even looking at videos side by side, I can only really see it in reflections, or occasionally in harsher light. I think devs have just gotten so good at faking those effects that’s it’s not really necessary.

[Don Rumata]

Reflections is the big thing, but yeah big AAA games have so many ways to fake light bounce, that in games like Control, you kind of need to squint to see it.
However in stuff like Quake and Minecraft, where an alternative was never in place, it's pretty massive.

[Nintex]

Something strange going on with my rig frens 

For reference I'm running a Gigabyte Aorus RTX 2070 Super paired with an i7 4790k and 24GB RAM.

Booted up EA Star Wars Battlefront II for the first time to play the campaign I have on my backlog and noticed some pretty bad framerates.
Like 20/30 fps bad. I figured it might be Ultra Settings but I looked up some benchmarks and I'm supposed to get 100fps @1440p on Ultra not 1/4th of that.

Battlefield V runs better but something strange there too, lots of stutter I didn't have before. 

[Rufus]

Reflections is the big thing, but yeah big AAA games have so many ways to fake light bounce, that in games like Control, you kind of need to squint to see it.
However in stuff like Quake and Minecraft, where an alternative was never in place, it's pretty massive.

Yeah, Minecraft is the ideal showcase. The on/off contrast is huge and the entire world is dynamic, which makes it really easy to demonstrate what the technology enables.

Something strange going on with my rig frens 

For reference I'm running a Gigabyte Aorus RTX 2070 Super paired with an i7 4790k and 24GB RAM.

Booted up EA Star Wars Battlefront II for the first time to play the campaign I have on my backlog and noticed some pretty bad framerates.
Like 20/30 fps bad. I figured it might be Ultra Settings but I looked up some benchmarks and I'm supposed to get 100fps @1440p on Ultra not 1/4th of that.

Battlefield V runs better but something strange there too, lots of stutter I didn't have before. 

What have you tried so far? My first thought is it might be stuck on a low power state. Driver issues?

[Nintex]

Tried a few things that seem to have fixed some stuff and I think I have found the main issue.
- Removed Gigabyte Aorus Engine and replaced it with MSI after burner (reduced stuttering / crashes and slugginess in Windows)
- Deleted DX shader cache (removed stuttering)
- Disabled 2/3 displays (fixed flickering, because 2 are 60hz and 1 is 120hz)
- Manually set pagefile (increase from 4GB to 8GB, improved starting times)

Although it runs more stable, the framerate wouldn't budge much, so I ran some tests
- Kamino 32 vs 32 = 40 fps
- Kamino 5v5 = 140 fps
- Kamino 20 vs 20 = 60 fps

my friends, we have a CPU bottleneck.
Seems like the good 'ol 4790k is in need of replacement.

[Rufus]

Wait, you never played anything where the CPU bottleneck was apparent?

I thought this was a sudden change, like something had broken.