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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4380 on: July 17, 2018, 07:11:39 PM »
Apparently not.

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« Reply #4381 on: July 17, 2018, 07:14:53 PM »
Where it says "News:" at the top of the page, with a quote underneath it, that's the newsfeed. Almost all of the "news" in the feed are quotes from posts on the forum, so when someone quotes a line and says "newsfeed" they're informally nominating a quote to be added to the rotation.

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« Reply #4382 on: July 17, 2018, 07:20:54 PM »
Conspiracy theorists like hungerynoob make me chuckle when they state that one group or person is behind the levers of power and have godlike control over almost everything.

But really there’s only one overarching force that controls everything. Chaos.



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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4383 on: July 17, 2018, 07:22:15 PM »
Where it says "News:" at the top of the page, with a quote underneath it, that's the newsfeed. Almost all of the "news" in the feed are quotes from posts on the forum, so when someone quotes a line and says "newsfeed" they're informally nominating a quote to be added to the rotation.
it's a formal nomination and likes are the votes
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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4384 on: July 17, 2018, 07:26:24 PM »
But just like Who's Line is it Anyway and also America, the votes don't matter.
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« Reply #4385 on: July 17, 2018, 07:27:10 PM »
George Soros owns 90% of the likes.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4386 on: July 17, 2018, 07:27:43 PM »
Conspiracy theorists like hungerynoob make me chuckle when they state that one group or person is behind the levers of power and have godlike control over almost everything.

But really there’s only one overarching force that controls everything. Chaos.



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You spend your time trying to get rich from crypto, based on what?

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« Reply #4387 on: July 17, 2018, 07:31:39 PM »
Faith that I’ll get lucky and make some extra dosh.

But I don’t really actively trade anymore. I’m just sitting on my alt coins until fall or winter then I’m cashing out most of it.

hungrynoob

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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4388 on: July 17, 2018, 07:34:36 PM »
Seems like faith others are correct is a pretty consistent underlying theme here.

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« Reply #4389 on: July 18, 2018, 02:50:23 AM »
qanon would be funny if it wasnt inevitably gonna end up in some chud shooting up a childcare centre thinking its a dem sex trafficking front

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« Reply #4390 on: July 18, 2018, 03:13:13 AM »
Seems like faith others are correct is a pretty consistent underlying theme here.

indeed. like, say, somebody having faith in some rando on 4chan who has always been wrong about everything, for example

hungrynoob

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« Reply #4391 on: July 18, 2018, 11:56:20 AM »
Seems like faith others are correct is a pretty consistent underlying theme here.

indeed. like, say, somebody having faith in some rando on 4chan who has always been wrong about everything, for example

Q encourages independent research,
You paraphrase "im right, you are wrong. BELIEVE ME"

I know which side I prefer, because I looked for myself.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4392 on: July 18, 2018, 12:04:06 PM »
When is Q's self-help book getting released?

hungrynoob

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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4393 on: July 18, 2018, 12:09:46 PM »
When is Q's self-help book getting released?

 :lol I dont even know where to start on that.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4394 on: July 18, 2018, 04:15:44 PM »
Seems like faith others are correct is a pretty consistent underlying theme here.

indeed. like, say, somebody having faith in some rando on 4chan who has always been wrong about everything, for example

Q encourages independent research,
You paraphrase "im right, you are wrong. BELIEVE ME"

I know which side I prefer, because I looked for myself.

How can I do independent research when I don't even understand what I'm supposed to be researching?   ???
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« Reply #4395 on: July 18, 2018, 04:21:33 PM »
In other international politics news. Our very own minister of foreign affairs Stef Blok was caught on tape but not with pee pee.
He admits he went "Too far" and "regrets" making the comments below.

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"On Xenophobia I'm very pragmatic. Give me one example of a multi-cultural multi-ethnic society where the original inhabitants still live.
Scrap Australia and the US where the natives were massacred. Give me one example because I don't know any."
*someone does some suggestions* 
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"Surinam? I admire your optimism but Surinam is a failed state"

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"I understand where those living in the cities and suburbs are coming from. When you live in the country side it's nice to got to a Turkish bakery because you don't have to deal with the 'side effects'."

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"Singapore is indeed very small and very selective when it comes to migration. It's very hard to get in. They don't let in poor migrants, well except for cleaning maybe."

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"I don't think you can force European countries to take in migrants. The Eastern Europeans will never agree and even when you twist their arms it won't work out. Walk on the street in Warsaw and Prague and you will find no colored people. For them living there would be hell, they'd be gone within weeks and beaten up in the streets."

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"I honestly can't tell the difference between Hutsi's or Tutsi's or Sunni or Shia. But they can. Probably somewhere in our genes we wish to form a group with our village or hunting packs. We're unable to bond with unfamiliar people unless we're very wealthy and we don't care."


This boring bureaucrat is secretly Trump, Jordan Peterson and Nigel Farrage rolled into one.

Someone give this man a medal.
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« Reply #4396 on: July 18, 2018, 04:25:08 PM »
that's baseline racism for the dutch

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« Reply #4397 on: July 18, 2018, 04:42:43 PM »
I hope the guy still does his muppet voice when talking about imaginary other people.

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« Reply #4398 on: July 18, 2018, 04:56:11 PM »
Seems like faith others are correct is a pretty consistent underlying theme here.

indeed. like, say, somebody having faith in some rando on 4chan who has always been wrong about everything, for example

Q encourages independent research,
You paraphrase "im right, you are wrong. BELIEVE ME"

I know which side I prefer, because I looked for myself.

My independent research has led me to believe Qanon is a bunch of conspiratorial bullshit that is just dragging people around by the nose who have poor critical thinking skills and an overabundance of motivated reasoning.

Go figure   :idont

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One of my favorite Qanon inferences was a board favorite conspiracy by the now digitally deceased etiolate. Except in the Qanon version, not only was Seth Rich the secret leaker of the DNC documents to Wikileaks(something Mueller roundly destroyed the credibility of last week) but his death was the result of Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Donna Brazille hiring an El Salvadorian hit squad of MS-13 assassins to take him out. Because apparently the DNC couldn't successfully firewall their networks, couldn't manage to get away with giving Hillary a debate question, and generally sucked at being even a slightly incompetent political organization, but they have the political assassination game on total lock..And the only foil to their plot was underestimating the sleuthing of 4chan posters.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4399 on: July 18, 2018, 11:57:19 PM »
Im sure it was extensive, dont worry I dont plan telling people anything.

There is already a system in place.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4400 on: July 19, 2018, 07:53:28 AM »
Oh Macron...

On the 1st of May, some militants captured on video what appeared to be police brutality in Paris during a clash with the CRS (anti riot police) including punching a man in the neck. You can see the video below, the offender is the man appearing at the beginning and end, wearing what looks like a CRS helmet but no armor or uniform. It was assumed it was maybe a member of the BAC (plainclothes officers in charge of first response in delinquency) but if so would probably have had the mandatory orange arm band identifying him as a policeman.



It turns out, as discovered just now, he's not at all a policeman but Alexandre Benalla, a member of Macron's team (formerly in charge of "security questions", apparently has done a lot of similar duties at the Socialist Party, driving candidates, party own security detail in meetings) currently appointed at the French presidential palace l'Elysée (as a deputy to the cabinet director) and had of course no delegation whatsoever to enforce the State monopoly on violence.

No reaction from Macron yet, but the man has been punished with a final warning before termination and put on leave without pay... for two weeks. Supposedly demoted to "security questions" again since, he was inside the coach transporting the football team down the Champs Élysées :lol
:neogaf

It's slowly coming out that his attitude raised eyebrows in Macron's party, he allegedly tried to order rubber ball launchers and riot shields during the campaign in 2017 but was denied by the direction. Looks like the sort of dude getting a hard on playing commando and punching students.

A preliminary investigation has been opened by common justice authorities following the media coverage though.
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« Reply #4401 on: July 19, 2018, 03:00:20 PM »
So the wannabe champion of liberal democracy has a deputy that likes playing cop dress-up and beating protesters? Am I getting that right?


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« Reply #4403 on: July 19, 2018, 05:32:00 PM »
So the wannabe champion of liberal democracy has a deputy that likes playing cop dress-up and beating protesters? Am I getting that right?

Yes.
Though to be fair the guy was basically a security guard / bodyguard / driver before that, and in the reserve of the gendarmerie. He was a mainstay at the Socialist Party since 2011 (he was 20) and the head of internal security there apparently thought the guy was doing his job well enough though there's of course a couple of times he went rough. He was also fired after only a week of being Arnaud Montebourg (a prominent Socialist) driver, the former minister claiming he got caught in an accident and that he wanted to flee the scene... His deputy position was more of a reward for his involvement in Macron's campaign, I guess.

All in all it's way more anedoctal than Mitterrand using his cadre of elite gendarmes to set up illegal wiretapping from the Elysée or some of the paramilitary shit going on around De Gaulle party's security but yeah THE OPTICS© of just docking two weeks pay are terrible. Any normal citizen impersonating a cop (not to say anything of the use of violence) would get the book thrown at them.
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« Reply #4404 on: July 19, 2018, 05:56:37 PM »
Good to see Israel really leaning into Herrenvolk democracy
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« Reply #4405 on: July 19, 2018, 06:03:41 PM »
Apparently Putin offered Trump a solution on Ukraine (a referendum in the occupied areas) and Trump is considering it.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-19/putin-said-to-have-made-trump-a-new-offer-on-ukraine-at-summit

Germany better start preparing those 4 planes that still fly.
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« Reply #4406 on: July 20, 2018, 03:58:06 AM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/07/19/an-austrian-state-wants-to-force-kosher-meat-consuming-jews-to-register-drawing-nazi-comparisons/
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Jewish organizations criticized the far-right Freedom Party of Austria (FPÖ), the ruling coalition party in the state of Lower Austria, over pursuing a proposal that would require Jews to register with the government if they seek to purchase kosher meat. The same rules would apply to Muslims….Jews and Muslims would still be allowed to purchase kosher and halal food, but only if they can prove that they live in Lower Austria and are observant members of their religious communities. Sales would be restricted to a certain amount of meat per week. Effectively, this means that restaurants would no longer be able to offer halal or kosher options, either.

A spokeswoman for the Islamic Religious Community in Austria (IGGÖ), an organization that defends the religious interests of Austrian Muslims, shared the criticism from Jewish associations this week, saying that it was bringing back “memories of one of the darkest chapters in recent history.” The proposal, she told Austrian media outlets, “was in reality meant against us, given that the FPÖ has long stirred tensions against Muslims and divided the country.”
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« Reply #4407 on: July 20, 2018, 05:58:17 AM »
"Major cyberattack hits Singapore government health database, steals info of 1.5 million including PM" breaking at Reuters...

Ghost in the Shell dystopian future here we come :rejoice
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« Reply #4408 on: July 20, 2018, 07:13:22 AM »
Macron's rent-a-cop deputy is now in custody. He apparently got heated up against a gendarmerie commander at the airport then with a police commissioner at the Crillon hotel last Monday when on security detail for the French football team. The Ministry of Interior denied him a gun license in 2017 and 2016, despite repeated demands (including straight to the ministre). Apparently the feedback from SDLP officers (the "real" bodyguarding police force) familiar with Macron's campaign was to dub the guy a Rambo wannabe...

He also was awarded on July a duty related lodging on Quai Branly (so basically at the foot of the Eiffel Tower), which defangs even further the official statement he received the "most severe punishment in the history of the presidential palace".  :lol

Another man has also been arrested, someone working for Macron's party who was also present at the scene on May 1st.
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« Reply #4409 on: July 20, 2018, 07:23:19 AM »
Is there more of a reliable asshole than a guy who isn't a cop but has fantasies of being one?

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« Reply #4410 on: July 20, 2018, 07:42:24 AM »
Is there more of a reliable asshole than a guy who isn't a cop but has fantasies of being one?


People who want to become internet moderators?

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« Reply #4411 on: July 20, 2018, 11:11:37 AM »
So the wannabe champion of liberal democracy has a deputy that likes playing cop dress-up and beating protesters? Am I getting that right?

Man Hamon was my boy dude, people just don't get it. UBI maybe a bit early but :(
My boy  :'(

Nintex: There is no ostfront. Russia is not planning to invade poland or anything west of it. Shut up with your fearmongering.

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« Reply #4412 on: July 20, 2018, 12:05:05 PM »
They're probably gonna fire the guy ("new facts were discovered"). Someone (well, 3 people) at police have him illegally CCTV footage of his acts...

Prince Laurent of Belgium is suing the Belgian state over the reduction of his annual money grant. Belgian parliament punished him for accepting an invitation by the Chinese embassy without informing Foreign Affairs (which he is obligated to do).

The National Day of Belgium is tomorrow.
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« Reply #4413 on: July 20, 2018, 12:47:18 PM »
So the wannabe champion of liberal democracy has a deputy that likes playing cop dress-up and beating protesters? Am I getting that right?

Nintex: There is no ostfront. Russia is not planning to invade poland or anything west of it. Shut up with your fearmongering.
There is always an ostfront. Just look at how aggressive Montenegro has gotten and before you know it you are in WWIII.
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« Reply #4414 on: July 21, 2018, 10:15:52 AM »
Iran will be free, connect the dots here, how is all this coming together?

https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/1020311131469074432

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« Reply #4415 on: July 21, 2018, 10:33:30 AM »
meanwhile in Israel:

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« Reply #4416 on: July 21, 2018, 10:39:09 AM »
meanwhile in Yurop:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-bannons-plan-to-hijack-europe-for-the-far-right
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LONDON—Steve Bannon plans to go toe-to-toe with George Soros and spark a right-wing revolution in Europe.

Trump’s former White House chief advisor told The Daily Beast that he is setting up a foundation in Europe called The Movement which he hopes will lead a right-wing populist revolt across the continent starting with the European Parliament elections next spring.

The non-profit will be a central source of polling, advice on messaging, data targeting, and think-tank research for a ragtag band of right-wingers who are surging all over Europe, in many cases without professional political structures or significant budgets.

Bannon’s ambition is for his organization ultimately to rival the impact of Soros’s Open Society, which has given away $32 billion to largely liberal causes since it was established in 1984.

Over the past year, Bannon has held talks with right-wing groups across the continent from Nigel Farage and members of Marine Le Pen’s Front National (recently renamed Rassemblement National) in the West, to Hungary’s Viktor Orban and the Polish populists in the East.

He envisions a right-wing “supergroup” within the European Parliament that could attract as many as a third of the lawmakers after next May’s Europe-wide elections. A united populist bloc of that size would have the ability to seriously disrupt parliamentary proceedings, potentially granting Bannon huge power within the populist movement.

After being forced out of the White House following internal wranglings that would later surface in the book Fire and Fury, Bannon is now reveling in the opportunity to plot his new European empire. “I'd rather reign in hell, than serve in heaven,” he said, paraphrasing John Milton’s Satan in Paradise Lost.
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The Movement plans to research and write detailed policy proposals that can be used by like-minded parties; commission pan-European or targeted polling; and share expertise in election war room methodology such as message discipline, data-led voter targeting and field operations. Depending on electoral law in individual countries, the foundation may be able to take part in some campaigns directly while bolstering other populist groups indirectly.

“I didn't get the idea until Marine Le Pen invited me to speak at Lille at the Front National,” recalled Bannon. “I said, ‘What do you want me say?’”

The response came back: “All you have to say is, ‘We're not alone.’”

Bannon was stunned to discover that the nationalist movements in Europe were not pooling skills and sharing ideas with populist parties in neighboring countries—let alone on a global scale.

Bannon said the Front National recognized that he was “the guy that goes round and understands us as a collective.”

Up on stage he told the crowd: “You fight for your country and they call you racist. But the days when those kind of insults work is over. The establishment media are the dogs of the system. Every day, we become stronger and they become weaker. Let them call you racists, xenophobes or whatever else, wear these like a medal.”
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Bannon said Farage and Le Pen would take the lead in figuring out the logistics of creating a new European parliamentary grouping that could be home to all of these parties and more.
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“Soros is brilliant,” he said. “He's evil but he's brilliant.”

Bannon wants to fulfil that role on the right and he is not ashamed to assert his objectives. “I'm about winning. I'm about power,” he said. “I want to win and then I want to effectuate change.”

He is not afraid of being caricatured in the way that Soros has been vilified by the right. He compared it to the fallout from the Cambridge Analytica scandal. “Look at Chris Wylie [the Cambridge Analytica whistleblower]. He is saying ‘Bannon made psychological weapons.’ He's literally made me the most brilliant evil genius. I'm a Bond villain. I kind of dig it.”

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« Reply #4417 on: July 21, 2018, 10:55:28 AM »
Iran will be free, connect the dots here, how is all this coming together?

twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/1020311131469074432

Google "Goa Feng Iran" my dude.

Looks like China's going to keep purchasing oil, despite what this NCRI propaganda outlet says.


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« Reply #4419 on: July 21, 2018, 02:04:27 PM »
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Pompeo decreed that WikiLeaks is “a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia,” and thus declared: “we have to recognize that we can no longer allow Assange and his colleagues the latitude to use free speech values against us.”

...also explicitly rejected any First Amendment concerns about prosecuting Assange, arguing that while WikiLeaks “pretended that America’s First Amendment freedoms shield them from justice . . . they may have believed that, but they are wrong.”

Pompeo then issued this bold threat: “To give them the space to crush us with misappropriated secrets is a perversion of what our great Constitution stands for. It ends now.”
he'll be fine, remember Trump and Mueller are on our side, fighting against the Deep State

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« Reply #4420 on: July 21, 2018, 04:06:22 PM »
The Benalla affair (I never named him, but the guy beating up students) is ballooning fast. The opposition are too happy to have something to grab to and Mélenchon, in his characteristic subtlety, says "it's worse than Watergate". Nevertheless, the Minister of Interior will go before the National Assembly to be questioned on the case. Some are calling for his head. The Minister is G.Collomb, a prominent Socialist elephant (Mayor of Lyon) and one of Macron most important ally (alongside Le Drian, Hollande's Défense Minister, currently at Foreign Affairs and a few others) into the established political network. Collomb "distinguished" himself for his law & order talk (moreso than some of his Socialist peers at the same post, like Cazeneuve).

Benalla was granted a pass to "observe" police work by his superior and as I mentioned three Paris police officers have been suspended for passing CCTV footage of the incident. And of course what happened at the scene and how this observer ended up being allowed to beat a guy under gendarmerie protection (some officer somewhere had to say to his CRS that the guy was a VIP to be protected at all costs no matter how inappropriate he acted, surely).
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« Reply #4421 on: July 22, 2018, 10:07:06 AM »
If you wonder how the far right continues to gain ground in Europe...

Today a girl was raped in Rotterdam. She was raped so violently that's she had to be hospitalized in the IC.
Just imagine what that poor woman must've gone through.

Now here's the kicker. It happened early in the morning, other citizens heard screams but no one dared to act or even call the police until the rape was nearly finished.
In the end the police arrived too late and the rapist escaped. The police asked the public to help find the rapist but they were unwilling to disclose any information about the guy.
They wouldn't comment on ethnicity, height, age, hair or any other identifiable feature. Despite the fact that they likely caught him on a security camera. The girl is unable to speak still.

This happened at 05:30 in the morning.

Now that the police have failed to find the guy during the last 10 hours based on the non-description, after 10 hours they've finally decided to tell us who to look for:
Age 20, darkened skin, wearing a dark hoody and riding a dark bike.

The policy is so scared into being labeled racists that they even allow a violent rapist to roam free.
They know exactly what the guy looks like.


Meanwhile in Brussels when Juncker asks for 'Water' every singe one of his aides knows he wants gin (and so do the people he's discussing important policy decisions with).
And yet, some still wonder how it is possible that the likes of Salvini, Orban and Wilders are taking over control of Europe.
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« Reply #4422 on: July 22, 2018, 01:37:47 PM »
If you wonder how the far right continues to gain ground in Europe...

Today a girl was raped in Rotterdam. She was raped so violently that's she had to be hospitalized in the IC.
Just imagine what that poor woman must've gone through.

Now here's the kicker. It happened early in the morning, other citizens heard screams but no one dared to act or even call the police until the rape was nearly finished.
In the end the police arrived too late and the rapist escaped. The police asked the public to help find the rapist but they were unwilling to disclose any information about the guy.
They wouldn't comment on ethnicity, height, age, hair or any other identifiable feature. Despite the fact that they likely caught him on a security camera. The girl is unable to speak still.

This happened at 05:30 in the morning.

Now that the police have failed to find the guy during the last 10 hours based on the non-description, after 10 hours they've finally decided to tell us who to look for:
Age 20, darkened skin, wearing a dark hoody and riding a dark bike.

The policy is so scared into being labeled racists that they even allow a violent rapist to roam free.
They know exactly what the guy looks like.


Meanwhile in Brussels when Juncker asks for 'Water' every singe one of his aides knows he wants gin (and so do the people he's discussing important policy decisions with).
And yet, some still wonder how it is possible that the likes of Salvini, Orban and Wilders are taking over control of Europe.
Oh it couldnt be the massive self imposed austerity that the troika imposed in all but germany(please don't prove by contradiction...) which led to a recession lasting almost a decade to save deutschbank, soc gen et al. The problems of big immigration influxes certainly exacerbated the already dire conditions but please stop pretending this is the crux of it all. I will give you the benefit of the doubt since I don't live in the EU and can't see first hand what is going on but from a critical external perspective your argument seems weak. But who knows, i remember arguing with your fellow countryman about how divided and awful the US is and looking from the outside he couldnt really get how bad it is , told him that the EU should strive for independence years ago. Now look where we are at.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4423 on: July 22, 2018, 02:22:38 PM »
If you wonder how the far right continues to gain ground in Europe...

Today a girl was raped in Rotterdam. She was raped so violently that's she had to be hospitalized in the IC.
Just imagine what that poor woman must've gone through.

Now here's the kicker. It happened early in the morning, other citizens heard screams but no one dared to act or even call the police until the rape was nearly finished.
In the end the police arrived too late and the rapist escaped. The police asked the public to help find the rapist but they were unwilling to disclose any information about the guy.
They wouldn't comment on ethnicity, height, age, hair or any other identifiable feature. Despite the fact that they likely caught him on a security camera. The girl is unable to speak still.

This happened at 05:30 in the morning.

Now that the police have failed to find the guy during the last 10 hours based on the non-description, after 10 hours they've finally decided to tell us who to look for:
Age 20, darkened skin, wearing a dark hoody and riding a dark bike.

The policy is so scared into being labeled racists that they even allow a violent rapist to roam free.
They know exactly what the guy looks like.


Meanwhile in Brussels when Juncker asks for 'Water' every singe one of his aides knows he wants gin (and so do the people he's discussing important policy decisions with).
And yet, some still wonder how it is possible that the likes of Salvini, Orban and Wilders are taking over control of Europe.
Oh it couldnt be the massive self imposed austerity that the troika imposed in all but germany(please don't prove by contradiction...) which led to a recession lasting almost a decade to save deutschbank, soc gen et al. The problems of big immigration influxes certainly exacerbated the already dire conditions but please stop pretending this is the crux of it all. I will give you the benefit of the doubt since I don't live in the EU and can't see first hand what is going on but from a critical external perspective your argument seems weak. But who knows, i remember arguing with your fellow countryman about how divided and awful the US is and looking from the outside he couldnt really get how bad it is , told him that the EU should strive for independence years ago. Now look where we are at.
That is also a big problem. Perhaps even more so. The root of the cause seems to be the dumbfuck politicians in Brussels writing those insane policies.

And the only solution there currently seems to be is to remove one brand of neo-liberal idiots and replace them with even bigger idiots.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4424 on: July 23, 2018, 01:40:07 AM »
Meanwhile in Brussels when Juncker asks for 'Water' every singe one of his aides knows he wants gin (and so do the people he's discussing important policy decisions with).
And yet, some still wonder how it is possible that the likes of Salvini, Orban and Wilders are taking over control of Europe.
:lol :lol no way this is true

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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4425 on: July 23, 2018, 03:28:21 AM »
Cuba is voting on a new constitution which mentions private property.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4426 on: July 23, 2018, 03:50:52 AM »
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recognizing the right to own private property and opening the door to the possible legalization of same-sex marriage, among other economic, political and social changes.

The document would also encourage foreign investment and strengthen the judicial system, including recognizing the presumption of innocence.

The draft Constitution would significantly reorganize the government. It calls for creating the position of a prime minister, who would share power with the president, and governorships for the nation’s provinces.
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the draft omits a clause from the current, 42-year-old Constitution laying out the goal of building a “communist society,”
Cindi takes down yet another socialist threat  :punch

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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4427 on: July 23, 2018, 01:06:34 PM »
Meanwhile in Brussels when Juncker asks for 'Water' every singe one of his aides knows he wants gin (and so do the people he's discussing important policy decisions with).
And yet, some still wonder how it is possible that the likes of Salvini, Orban and Wilders are taking over control of Europe.
:lol :lol no way this is true

Apparently it is.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/07/jean-claude-drunker/
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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4428 on: July 23, 2018, 02:46:52 PM »
Meanwhile in Brussels when Juncker asks for 'Water' every singe one of his aides knows he wants gin (and so do the people he's discussing important policy decisions with).
And yet, some still wonder how it is possible that the likes of Salvini, Orban and Wilders are taking over control of Europe.
:lol :lol no way this is true

Apparently it is.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/07/jean-claude-drunker/

That's some prime source you got there :lol

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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4429 on: July 23, 2018, 05:46:24 PM »
Meanwhile in Brussels when Juncker asks for 'Water' every singe one of his aides knows he wants gin (and so do the people he's discussing important policy decisions with).
And yet, some still wonder how it is possible that the likes of Salvini, Orban and Wilders are taking over control of Europe.
:lol :lol no way this is true

Apparently it is.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/07/jean-claude-drunker/

That's some prime source you got there :lol
It has been a not so well hidden secret for years
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-eu-juncker-schaeuble-idUKKBN0F647320140701
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Juncker’s successor as chairman of the Eurogroup, Dutchman Jeroen Dijsselbloem, told a Dutch television programme in January that Juncker smoked and drank heavily in meetings.

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One British newspaper quoted an unnamed source as saying Juncker, the long-time head of the Eurogroup forum of euro zone finance ministers, drank cognac for breakfast.

Every year it pops up again.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4430 on: July 24, 2018, 02:06:31 AM »
i mean i can believe he drinks a lot but to have "water" be code for "more gin" in meetings is like something armando ianucci would put in his shows

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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4431 on: July 24, 2018, 05:01:40 AM »
Juncker is a useful and obedient idiot and a drunk. Of course that story is probably true, I mean you've seen the video where the carry him out of the meeting because he's blind drunk, right? I assume it has been posted here.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4432 on: July 24, 2018, 10:43:10 AM »
Juncker is a useful and obedient idiot and a drunk. Of course that story is probably true, I mean you've seen the video where the carry him out of the meeting because he's blind drunk, right? I assume it has been posted here.
There's about 20 of those, which one are you referring to?
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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4434 on: July 25, 2018, 08:19:50 AM »
The UNRWA is gonna let go of 250 employees because the US froze its UN contributions. The agency is facing "existential danger".
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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4436 on: July 25, 2018, 03:29:02 PM »

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Juncker drank cognac for breakfast.



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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4437 on: July 26, 2018, 05:53:15 PM »
Over in the UK, May is losing more ground.

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Michel Barnier has warned that attempts to appeal to EU leaders over his head were a waste of time as he rejected after Brexit, in effect killing off the Chequers plan.
- Brussels returned her latest brexit plan a 'lawl NO'. The same plan that she figured the EU would agree on and the only viable plan that would have a chance to get through the British parliament.

- Trump is ready to deal with the EU and leave the UK hanging.

- Steve Bannon is in frequent contact with Boris Johnson, who is mulling his moves against May to become PM himself.

A hard and messy brexit is looking more and more likely as time is running somewhat short.
They'd need to have some sort of deal by October in order to implement it. Otherwise the UK will crash out of the EU.

You'd think the opposition would be able to make something out of this opportunity but Jeremy Corbyn is not wiling to press this issue.
Not to mention they have trouble dealing with antisemitism in their party.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4438 on: July 26, 2018, 06:49:19 PM »
https://www.salon.com/amp/my-grandfather-didnt-fight-the-nazis-as-family-lore-told-it-he-was-a-brutal-collaborator

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Near the end of my trip, my aunt, Aldona Budrytė Bužienė, whose mother was my grandmother’s sister, described how, as a 10-year-old, she babysat my mother in 1941 in Plungė. She told me the story while we were in her apartment in Klaipėda, enjoying a lunch of chicken and rice that she had prepared. Shortly after the uprising, my grandfather moved his family into a house in the center of town once it became “suddenly free” and stayed until they moved to Šiauliai, where my grandfather became chairman of the county. “What do you mean by suddenly free?” I asked. She answered, “The Jews were gone, so the house was free. Many Lithuanians were moving into the new free houses.”



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I knew my grandfather was the county chair, considered the height of his political career, but I had never considered that he might have been a Nazi collaborator.

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Re: International Politics Thread - Russia + China = World superpowers
« Reply #4439 on: July 26, 2018, 07:45:02 PM »
yeah, but they probably had to bring their own furniture